Stop This Backswing Destroyer And Using Your Hips Wrong
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Just when I think I’ve seen a video on every possible fault in my swing, you come up with another one! Thanks for this excellent training on proper hip and leg movement.
Lol my pleasure bob--hope these help!
You nailed me Eric… where were you 60 years ago when I started playing this wonderful game….. thanks great video…
Lol :)
Once again Eric, you’re pointing out the issues that have plagued me. I’ve been working in my hip turn lately and I’ve dropped about 4 strokes over the last month.
Love to hear of that improvement!!
@@CogornoGolf I also bought new clubs. I went from single length irons back to traditional irons. I believe this drove some of the improvement as well. I think the single length irons were hindering my short game.
I initially learned this on my own by pressing my right/rear foot hard into the ground so I wouldn't move my centerline. Love the extra tips and notes on this idea.. Thanks.
Love it
Very excellent understanding and explanation about how to turn hips correctly. Many pros advise on turning the hips, but they fail to demonstrate the correct way, and the incorrect way and consequences
Appreciate it!
wow this makes so much sense. I came back to golf this year after 15 year break and have issues with rotation. What you explained is going to help so much thank you.
👊Hope it serves you well, Justin!
After dedicating three weeks to practice, my ball striking has transformed with a much-improved trajectory and the elimination of a previously unnoticed hip sway. It's remarkable how my perception of age limiting my abilities has shifted; at 65 years old, not only am I hitting my driver 15-20 yards longer, but I'm also consistently hitting more greens and flushing iron shots. I am genuinely grateful for the valuable instruction you provided.
LOVE to hear that!
just came back from the range and wished I had watched this sooner. My feet never felt comfortable in my back swing and my hips were going back in my swing. Back to the range tomorrow. Thanks for this video.
Hope it serves you well and have a great practice session! Our pleasure!
Oh my gah!!! Such a key to getting into the correct swing. Thanx guys so much.
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Eric I tried this last week and shot 77 gross on a par 72 and i three putted on three holes best advice I’ve received it works for me handicap 8.1 Thanks Eric👍🏴
Love to hear that Wayne! Nice playing!!
Great video. I’ve been a sway guy forever. Just straightening the right leg has helped tremendously. Hip turn to 45 and shoulder turn to 90. Thanks!
Thanks! Glad to hear this one helped!
Great. This explains a lot!
I've struggled in the transition stage where I do not get a good turn to the finish. I've tried loading the front leg which only helps slightly. I've been wondering if my hip turn is poor and I reckon this vid opened my eyes.... I concentrate so hard on my arms and shoulders in the backswing that my hips hardly turn without a big effort. This makes so much sense and might unlock my hips so thanks.
Hope it serves you well Lee!
This has been very helpful to me. Poor hip turn is most common cause of mishits. My struggle though is with forward (left hip). Focus on it not going forward as much as right goes back, gets me better contact. I try to let the left knee respond to the rest. I have it in my symmetric head that my left hip needs to turn along with the right, forming a half circle, which doesn’t work. More like I pivot from the left hip.
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Glad this one was helpful my friend!
Great video, like the other gentleman states it helps to feel where the pressure is on the right instep of the right leg! Also kinda like- (for me) is the old Greg Norman- Butch Harmon drill. RPB, right pocket back/ turn not slide or like making a thumb print against the wall with your butt. Really helps centering, power and ball striking consistency.
Mahalo
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Thank you! Hope this one helps your game!
I received your feedback - thanks. I had a whole bunch of things in my response, but I kept getting an error message so I couldn't send it. All good. Thanks again.
You got it my friend! Let us know if you have any questions👊
Thank you very much. I am a beginner amateur 🏌️. Finally, someone clearly showed how to make a swing. 👍🔥👍-⛳🏌️ for ever.
Our pleasure my friend! Hope it serves you well!
Great video again. You’ve been kind enough to answer all my comments in the past. One more question is if there are and tips related to this video for the case where I actually have arthritis in my left knee which restricts a little loading my left leg ☹️
Kind regards.
Thanks James!
Unfortunately I dont feel good giving any advice there without seeing your swing and knowing more about what you can/can't do as well as the other parts of your swing.
Find a good in person coach to work through this with or send your swings in to www.cogornogolf.com and we can help better there
Can you continue this from top of swing to finish ? In detail from when you have your hip stacked over front leg. Thank you.
Sure thing
Some of these we talk about from top to finish on the hips
1. czcams.com/video/lSOHKUmLq7w/video.html&pp=ygUvRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGhvdyB0aGUgaGlwcyB3b3JrIGluIHRoZSBkb3duc3dpbmc%3D
2. czcams.com/video/FbA--1xWGsc/video.html&pp=ygUvRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGhvdyB0aGUgaGlwcyB3b3JrIGluIHRoZSBkb3duc3dpbmc%3D
3. czcams.com/video/sz652jg7nEw/video.html&pp=ygUTRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGVuZ2luZQ%3D%3D
Eric- I could watch this video and the earlier with Steve on closing the stance forever and maybe I'd get it right and consistently draw the ball. GREAT stuff,much appreciated. Be good-Russ
Thank you Russ! Hope the videos serve you well!👊
Wonderful tip! Exactly what I needed.
Thank you!
Brilliant couple of recent videos on hip rotation 👌🏼
Thanks Dean!
Great video! This will help tremendously, thanks
Thank you!
Hey Eric-love the videos, you present the tips clearly and concisely! Two questions/comments regarding this video - number one, if you turn your hips and keep your spine/sternum in the exact location in relation to the ball position, it will look like you have moved an inch or more towards the target as most (not all) human bodies are wider from side to side as opposed to belly to back. If viewing this on a face-on recording or full length mirror, this might give a false impression that the person has moved closer to the target. It might be more impactful if the person used the target side of the hips as the guide as ultimately that needs to be closer to the target (1"-'3") at impact for the swing to bottom out in front of the ball. Perhaps, using the same mirror view or face-on recording have the target side hip be closer to the target at the top of the backswing than it was at address. This would help ensure the low point of the swing on the target side of the ball with iron shots. Number two is more of a comment than a question, you mentioned turning the hips many times in the video, and from a past video you did with Mike Malaska, the thought of turning the hips is better described as a pushing away from the target line with your trail side thigh, which alleviates the stress of trying to "turn" the hips. Then on the downswing, after getting the hips closer to the target, the target thigh pushes away from the target line. That specific video really helped me relieve lower back strain, to the point where I can play 36 in a day as a 6'2", 240lb golfer, pain free. Just my .02. Keep up the great work!
Hey Jeff!
Sounds like both of those comments are on the correct path. Thanks for the thoughts and feedback!
Thank you. I had left hip replacement and had lost enjoying this game until now. Thanks again
Hope this one helps ya Tim!
The way you break things down is SOOO good, and easy to understand. Love the videos. I wish you were in Florida!
Thank you! Will be back in FL after summer!
@@CogornoGolf Oh really? Will you be doing lessons when you're out here?
We are in Boca like 8 months out of the year......not a lot of in person lessons available....we do most all online at www.cogornogolf.com
@@CogornoGolf You know what's funny. I feel like I learn a lot from the youtube videos, but if i'm paying for lessons I feel like they should be in person. Sounds funny because the videos help a lot, but just cant get past the coaching thing in my head LOL. Maybe I just need to try it and see how it goes. I'm in Tampa so Boca would be too far anyway.
All good----totally understand. Nothing beats in person.....but online is a CLOSE second....and much less expensive :)
For me knee foreward (which i can check) and ass in backswing to the target (which i can feel) works. I'm also gonna try the more open stance, noticing the oldies all have that position. But, they also all lift their left heel. Which is a tricky move.
I like that Edward!
Where can I get a pair of shoes like the ones you are wearing in this video?
Hey @tedwilliams4833! They are OluKai. Mary will share all the details.
The key is to retain weight in the back foot as the back swing happens : but arguably this swing is the most amateur friendly for consistency in my view .
Yep!
Great, really my problem when I am playing. Strangely I do the swaying less when I am on the driving range.
Thank you---hope this helps!
Always very informative
Thanks Robert! Hope this one serves you well!
thanks boys good stuff!
Appreciate it!
Eric, always great. This is key for me and I have a tendency to get away from this sometimes. I assume this is same for driver but given the amount of tilt when setting up and length of driver, are the mechanics in the rotation the same?
Thanks Ray! Yes, this one applies to all clubs👍
Driver would have MORE rotation +
the shoulders would tilt LESS (would be flatter) on the way back vs. an iron swing where the shoulders would tilt MORE (would be steeper) on the way back.
Tilt and turn your shoulders 90° to your back line at setup...with the driver, we are less bent over at setup (so the shoulder turn is flatter).
Great video - thanks. Is this just the same with driver?
Thank you! Yes it is
I did this drill today but I started hooking my irons which I've never done before!
Good new problem!
Cogorno Gold. Cousin Tom would approve.
Lol thank you :)
The best golf tip I've ever watched - Thanks!
Thank you Grady!
Thanks Eric. Could I think right hip back and toward the target on the backswing and left hip back on the downswing? Kind of taking the arms out of the picture?
100%
Taking the arms out "FEELS" won't be for everyone but those hip motions are!
This is great. Does this also work with fairway woods, hybrids, and driver?
Thanks Thomas! Yes all clubs
Hi, great instruction, thank you! I can see the logic behind this, but am i right in thinking that most weight should therefore be kept in the lead leg, so kinda like pivoting around trail leg? However, doesn't this counter that universal piece of advice of loading the trail leg, or at least 'feeling' that?
Confusingly..
Andrew
Hey Andrew!
Sorry for any confusion.....Steve and I go over the weight distribution for all parts of the swing here:
czcams.com/video/HW_2oEY9B0U/video.html&pp=ygUZRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIHdlaWdodCBzaGlmdA%3D%3D
I’m going to try this tomorrow at the range. 11.5 HC and I have poor ball striking skills. Really good some days (good timing?) and really bad some days. Strikes all over the face, heavy and thin.
Hope this helps ya! IF not send us in your swings www.cogornogolf.com so we can identify the root issues and we can fix for you
Hey Eric, quick question for you. I tried this and absolutely loved the quality of contact I was getting.
The only downside is that I was getting a MASSIVE draw with it (30+ yards or more). I know that you mentioned this promotes a more in to out shape, but is there anything I can try to make that draw a bit more playable?
For sure.....
Just add something else that would be a more fade piece.....or take out another draw element
Options to add to remove some draw
1. Turn hips more open in downswing (or ribcage/chest) Increase body rotation
2. Swing club path more left
3. Reduce pieces in downswing that close the face (feel like you hold it open)
4. Move ball more forward in stance
Any/all of those could help.
If you don't get it sorted send swings to www.cogornogolf.com we can fix that no problem
Eric when you go back do you even feel your hips moving? I get a sense of watching you swing that it's not even a hip turn but a pressure down into the instep of your trail foot. Been working on trying to keep my lead foot on the ground but feeling light in it until I recenter. And have found that pressuring the trail instep is the feeling that I get then basically relaxing it on the way through and it's helped with early extension
Me personally YES I'm trying to get my trail hip working back and around as my trail shoulder works up and back
@@CogornoGolf appreciate the feedback
This tail bone lesson pairs well with Eric’s club behind the back and hooked at the elbows drill. (“My favorite rotation drill”)
When you point the grip to ball in that drill on backswing, you can feel the tailbone move properly toward the target. That drill is amazing for its many correct feels.
Thanks Eric.
Good call Cody----that one would be an awesome one to pair with this one!!
Link?
How do you avoid whipping the club inside in the takeaway when doing this? I tried this today at the range and it shallowed my swing out loads but I was also whipping it inside in the takeaway
This video will help a lot with the inside takeaway!
czcams.com/video/WSDuOd-FXLY/video.htmlfeature=shared
Let us know if any questions👊
@@CogornoGolf Thanks I'll give this a go! Just shot my PB 92 after struggling to break 100 all year with this feel of working the coccyx around and towards the target; just got to figure out this inside takeaway as my driver did nothing but duck hook all round
Random question. I was hitting the ball so well on the range off mats. When I went to play on a local course this weekend, I felt so uncomfortable over my shots, and was nothing like at the range. I'm guessing I need to find ranges that let you hit off grass more often? Any other tips?
Can't say for sure.....could be several things honestly. I would need to see your swing and know more to give you a clear solution. Send swings in to www.cogornogolf.com and we can fix
Thoroughly confused now. I understand the hips must turn, of course. But I thought the emphasis in the backswing was the shoulder turn, and that the hips only go about half as much. Do I even want to think about the hips until I'm ready for the transition?
Sorry for your confusion!
In the backswing a general guide for rotation would be
hips---45* turned
Shoulders--90* turned
The point is if you dont get the hips turned close to that amount........you have NO CHANCE of getting the full shoulder turn.
Also....the point here is not only do the hips TURN......but they stay centered.....not moving away from the target
Hi Eric. What could be the reason for fat shots if one does not sway? My takeaway looks similar to what you advise in this video but I often end up hitting the ground before the ball?
Lowering your shoulders? When adding power sometimes the tendency is to lower the upper body through the downswing.
Had the same problem. The fix- start and keep more weight on the left going back . Then keep the arms /hands passive on the downswing.
Could be several things....I will link some videos below
Could be...
1. Not enough shift toward target in downswing
2. Not enough rotation of pelvis/ribcage in downswing
3. Trail arm gets too straight too soon
4. Trail wrist releases to soon
If you got those 4 right the odds of fat shots are almost non existent.
Of course if I could see your swing on video I could tell you in 2 seconds. Send swings into www.cogornogolf.com if you dont get it sorted we can fix easy
Some to help:
1. czcams.com/video/Wwm_6XkNkBU/video.html&pp=ygUWRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGZhdCBzaG90cw%3D%3D
2. czcams.com/video/OUgMiICB0dU/video.html&pp=ygUWRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGZhdCBzaG90cw%3D%3D
3. czcams.com/video/DJ5WwZ-C2lQ/video.html&pp=ygUWRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGZhdCBzaG90cw%3D%3D
Eric, so the left knee goes forward rather than in towards the ball?
It definitely goes forward and OK to go SOME amount in (toward trail leg).....which I do.
Going IN SOME can help increase the overall amount of hip turn
I like to see the knee right under the left hip socket from face on
In what direction does the tail bone move in transition and in the downswing? Thanks.
Depends some per player but MORE toward the target.....how much and WHEN depends some per player pattern
@@CogornoGolf Interesting. Thanks. I expected you to say that the tailbone starts to move away from the target after the hips begin to open towards the target.
Hi, any changes on this for the Driver?
Same idea with regards to this stuff
Iron vs driver general differences here:
czcams.com/video/TJtx-qVSgVU/video.html&pp=ygUbRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGlyb24gdnMgZHJpdmVy
I noticed your left knee goes in…thought it supposed to go straight?
DOWN some.........and IN some.....
How much in (the lead femur) will depend some per player. I like to let mine go in (internal rotation) to help increase the hip turn. I have limited thoracic spine rotation ability so I add more hip turn to offset
This video is great, but it looks like you're creating a reverse pivot on the backswing. Can you clarify this?
For sure.....we talked about what's "too much" and not enough around the middle of the video.
Also added details in this video where we talk about normal vs not enough vs too much
czcams.com/video/pPlAIUbGTOY/video.html&pp=ygUcRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGhpcHMgYmFja3N3aW5nIA%3D%3D
Your videos are helping Eric. But maybe you’ve said or other pros that when you come up with your club and you have a tee in the butt of your grip it should be pointing at the ball. I don’t see that here. Or am I thinking of something else ?
Glad to hear it, Wayne!
In general, I'd define a neutral plane as the butt of the club pointing right on the ball to target line or just a bit inside of it at lead arm parallel in the backswing (P3). This would be "on plane" and requires no adjustments later on.
Here's a video you may enjoy checking out!
czcams.com/video/kBjAHN9nu2A/video.html
Does the pelvis return to address location at impact then?
Nope....more forward toward target
its always moving toward target from about takeaway through finish
@@CogornoGolf Thanks!
Day 1 issue, day 1050 issue haha. Just a good go to for anyone.
:) 100%!
Isn’t part of the hip location at top of backswing a product of starting “transition” sooner?
Well everything effects everything.
but your hips should be as we describe regardless of transition timing
Is this like Stack & Tilt?
Yes
I could be wrong, but I think not. S&T seems to want weight on the left side from the get go.
Just a normal "centered" swing
I had a lesson with a pro once and they had me square my feet, I found it really unnatural, I didn't go back!
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Hope this video serves you well my friend!
Watching Gary Player's backswing, his left heel comes quite a bit off the ground. Inetersting
What a great swing! Lifting the lead heel can help with increasing rotation on the backswing👍
While I love your videos, I am going to have to confess I am a member a secret society that basically is anti-duck walk. We simply can't turn our shoes out, and not due to some inability to be flexible, we simply can't turn our feet out, as if to walk like a duck, even in the slightest. Our feet point straight. Yet we can turn. Past 45 degrees in either direction. As far as the secret society, we are much larger than a lot of societies - but I can't divulge any more info about us. But I can say, I can play great golf without feeling like I am contorting my lower body. I know many of my fellow golfers can turn their feet but they tend to walk like a duck. I also know how many, that are straight walkers and straight shooters, and are part of our secret society (that can't discuss further). I understand the importance of this particular lesson, but not all can turn their knees out with their toes pointed out. I just want your viewers to know this isn't a deal breaker. There are many of us, shhhh.... who don't or can't walk like a duck. For a little background info: out-toeing is easier for those who have either the tibia or femur slightly turned out. They probably tended to walk like a duck when young and learning to walk. They also tend to be a bit more flat footed. For those who have a high instep, trying to turn the feet outwards will feel uncomfortable. Especially on the ankles. Lie down our your back with your arms at your side. If your feet point straight up, you can request how to joint our secret society. If your feet flay outward, we do not exist. Shhhh.
By the way, I can stand and splay both my feet outwards 90 degrees, so my feet are on the same line. That's not the issue. I have to bend my knees more to do so. The issue is the bending of the knees. The more some folks will out-toe, the more they have to bend their knees to take off the pressure it puts on their bones or ankles. Our two bones, the tibia and femur are just aligned straighter than those who can turn out their feet. Just for more info. Thanks Eric.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Randal!
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