Why I DON'T tell people I live in France!
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 12. 11. 2022
- When I was back home in the USA last year, my feelings about one aspect of the living abroad experience surfaced again. The longer I live abroad in France, the more uneasy I feel about telling people from back home that I live in France. Let me explain why. I hope you'll watch the whole video and won't jump to conclusions based on my intro. Maybe you can relate?
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Salut! I'm Diane, an American who has lived in France since 2012 and the creator of the blog/CZcams channel Oui In France. My channel's focus is "Everyday French life and beyond." I make videos on French culture topics, France vs. US culture comparisons, food, travel, language, and give you my thoughts about what it's like living in France as an American in the Loire Valley. Thanks for being here and if you enjoy this sort of thing, please share with friends and subscribe!
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As a dual citizen of France and the US, and starting to serve in the US military, the military tends to slip into conversation quite often. And it has been very frustrating just how often people will default to bashing the bravery and honor of France as a whole as well as the constituents of its military. All of which is particularly offensive and hurtful both considering that much is based on myth and propaganda, and the fact that many of my French ancestors fought and died on those fateful fields of strife.
On nâĂ©duque ni la chair Ă canon ni lâouvrier, leurs lignes leur suffisent.
It's classic ignorance and the english propaganda that slipped in american culture, for exemple if you want to know why the white flag is a sign of surrendering in english minds and their colonies it's because they fought the pure White flag of the Royal army of France for close to 800 years, France won the vast majority of the battles facing english and it is that white flag that made them continuously lose and surrender to France from their first Brexit kicked out of the continent after France won the hundred years war to the US war of independence where again the same white flag of France Royal army made them sign over and surrender. Then there is ww2, were ht illigitimate generals made a coup d'Etat and signed an armistice with Germany, yet France never surrendered, as the legitimate Government led by Charles De Gaulle was well and after France saved the entire british army at Dunkirk, they continued the fight in North Africa saving once again the british army at Bir Hakeim, not only this but France is the only nation that fought on every front of the war as they were the only allies allowed to fight in the eastern front with soviets with the famous Normandie-Niemen
I am not in the military, but i feel the same. Actually, i certainly feel infinitely worse than you about it. These mockeries towards all those who died fighting for my country are unsufferable, inexcusable, intolerable, and only nurture further and bottomless resentment and hatred towards the USA (which is something considering the bad opinion i had of this country ever since i was a kid). Plus, i don't want to hear any of their sh*tty cr*p about this considering how many civilians they have murdered for petty reasons over the years. 60 000 french. 2 000 000 vietnamese. 1 000 000 japanese. 100 000+ germans. And so on, and so forth. And this is not even considering how they whine about Vietnam all the time, when they lost less soldiers there in 8 years, than we or the germans did in the mere 6 weeks of the battle of France in 1940. The very battle the use as a reference to call us cowards. This country is a laughable cesspool. And i will keep my last comment for myself, because i don't want to offend you. Good luck with the so-called "YOUHESSE military".
Also dual US-French citizen who served in US military. You speak truth.
Most Americans (or Brits) I have met who have cracked these surrender jokes donât mean any harm. They donât realize that to some of us it is the verbal equivalent of spitting on our forefathersâ grave. And it is all the more incomprehensible that when it comes to military history, France holds a black belt of some sort.
Anyone living in a country they didn't grow up in, should be very proud. That's not an easy move to do; paper work, cultural differences, language. It's a lot of work not everyone can deal with.
As a Frenchman, who lived for 5 years in Montréal and 1 year in Manchester, I can totally relate to your feelings. The most misleading question I have to answer is always: Was it better over there? And my answer is always the same. I had a great time everywhere I went, be it Montréal, Manchester, Paris or Marseilles. It is all a question of mindset. If you are ready to fully accept the experience, it will be great. On the other side, I met people who had a terrible time in Montréal. But they were looking for croissants in a place that had great muffins. Living abroad only brings joy if you come with an open mind and a desire for new things. It does not mean that you hated your country of birth and moved abroad as a way to escape. It was not my case, and I'm pretty sure it is not your case.
I love the way you kindly phrased it, "...they are looking for croissants in a place that has great muffins..."
In some ways I think that this describes the blindness of envy and a closed mind for many people in many situations, not only pertaining to living in another country đ
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I might of said « âŠgreat bagels. » đ
@@francedangela9556 Ah!!! Fresh bagels at 1AM on Saint-Viateur. Bagel + Salmon + Cream Cheese, the best way to survive one pichet too many... C'est si loin tout ça...
From Montreal and it is possible they didn't speak French well enough.
Hi Diane, Iâm a Franco- Australian married to an American now living in France and I say screw those negative people. We moved here 2 years ago after living in china for a longtime. Moving to France was our only option at the time (considering the USA and Australia wouldnât allow us to enter under Covid restrictions albeit we are citizens of those countries) and has been the best decision ever. We have had a lot of mixed reactions, from the flip side , lol. The French donât get why we came here. We donât live in Paris though, so that might have something to do with it.
Living in France is very convivial for us and a very normal, western lifestyle. Not to mention, if you have a job you usually are entitled to full medical benefits. There are a lot of advantages to living in France such as security that you donât get in other developed countries.
I really agree with you that people project their insecurities and issues on to others. Ultimately, it is there problem. #complicated
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Bonjour, Diane. I moved from the United States 8 years ago to live in France. There are pros and cons, but I love my life in France. Thank you for this podcast.
Seconded, Diane! I'm now a French-British citizen and I still find myself explaining how living in the UK isn't a punishment (since the UK doesn't sound as dreamy as France), and how I'd never think twice if I had to do it again. A few years back, I told a friend that I was a bit tired of living in London and that I'd love to try a smaller city for a change. She was baffled: how could you ever be fed up with it? Well because I'm talking about everyday's life, I'm not talking about a weekend of fun as a tourist. We all have a warped image of foreign countries initially, which probably stems from what we see in movies and pop culture. We tend to focus on just a few highlights and we magnify them beyond recognition. But once you put these highlights back into the whole context, they don't stick out that much anymore. Of course they are differences, which you have to take in especially at first: things almost look like you're in an amusement park. Life in France may sound glamorous and fancy and chic and all, but after a while life in France - and anywhere else for that matter - is very much about the simplest things: getting up in the morning to go to work, shopping at your local supermarket, doing your laundry... Yes it's a beautiful country, a very diverse one too from one region to another, there are great things and not-so-great things there, which heavily depend on your personal story. But for sure, life in France isn't about catwalking along the Champs-ĂlysĂ©es all day long. As I always say: if you visited Paris, you visited Paris. Not France. But that's another story :)
I live in Paris, not born here but spend more time there that anywhere else. I always feel belittle when people say "Paris is not France."
The same way people react weirdly for foreigners living abroad. When I go to another city, some people assume I'm smug or arrogant as soon as I have to mention I live in Paris. At the end of the day, sitting on a sofa late at night is the same in Paris than elsewhere.
I don't understand why there is this kind of rejection. But Paris is France. And yes sometimes I walked with my friends on the Champs Elysées and it's as unglamorous as any other street in the world.
France is not Paris but I'm tired of people pretending Paris is not France. I'm just another citizen.
@@FoxTrotteur dont worry, i'm french and i avoid Paris as much as i can.
Paris is very nice (architecture shops events) but too crowded, too expensive. too stressing, with annoying transportation: cant drive there. (except eurodisney.. )
well 3/4 of parisians arent born in paris.
There is a divide between Paris and the rest of France (2 different life styles)
Cliché1: parisian intra muros stereotype , (the parisian way of life.) : dont own a car. center of the world . stuperficial conversations/social elevation?. . more active, better salaries, always running for and event? , use of the word 'province' vs Paris(=rest of the world or 3rd world in france)
Cliché2:
So the rest of france says Paris isnt France, they are rolling stones, gather no mass,
people from the rest of france prefers quality of life/less stress/less commodities, more convenience/more down to earth/family things/countryside very near for activities)
Bonjour Diane,
I had somewhat of the reverse experience. My French mother married my American father and whenever we'd go visit her brother (and my grandmother when she was still alive), my aunt assumed that we were wealthy because of my dad. She didn't realize that my dad made a modest salary, we never owned a new car, and my mom would save for over a year each time we traveled to France.
I'm happy that you found Tom, and are making a wonderful life together. Soon enough you will find a new doggie. You are a dear person.
In my experience, there is a segment of US population that regards any international travel as elitist, and any discussion of same, much less living abroad (ie, perpetually traveling) as bragging. So these people fell put-down and they get defensive. Their hostile reaction begins well before they have the opportunity to learn that life in France has its own set of difficulties.
You're onto something there
Halfway through this video I realized that it isn't about "Why I DON'T tell PEOPLE I live in France!" but far more about "Why I DON'T tell AMERICANS that I live in France!". Americans are not the same people as 'tout le monde' everywhere else.
As a french person living in the US, let me tell you it is very difficult to speak about it when I am back in France... Or to explain people here why I moved out of France lol
Let me guess. "How can you stand all the shootings you must see on a daily basis." How can you stand not having any healthcare." LOL. Europeans don't understand American complexity.
@@GUITARTIME2024 some of it yes. They also speak a lot about food. And I get similar comments from American asking me why I would ever consider leaving France when they would want to live there so much, sometimes even offended by my life choice as Diane says.
As an amerloque who moved to France long ago, I can easily explain to Americans why I left the US.
I totally agree...some people think living in France is like winning a lottery and experiencing magical things. I live in France six months in a year, and while I love it here, I still deal with cooking, doing the laundry, grocery shopping, cleaning, etc, just like living in San Francisco, CA where I live half the time in a year. It is living life just like everyone else!
Exactement! En SuĂšde beaucoup de gens croient que jâai vĂ©cu la dolce vita pendant mes annĂ©es (15) en France; ça me fait rire et ça mâĂ©nerve Ă la fois.
Yes, I totally hear you. I also do the half-and-half and it's hard when people (a) just think you're on vacation the whole time and (b) think you just got lucky to have that life, and didn't have to work hard and sacrifice a lot for it.
When I mention that I am moving to France, it is always met with "Why would you want to move to France?". I mentioned this to my very religious dentist the other day and I could tell he was disgusted with the notion, most likely having to do with Iraq, Socialism, and religious leanings - and he asked where in France? "Paris" I replied .. and he says with total disregard for my feelings "I hate Paris .. most terrible city I have ever visited". Sigh ....
For him it is the loss of a customer!
It's such a funny reaction, Daniel. Like OK Dentist Sir, then you probably shouldn't spend your time or money on going to Paris then. Case closed. Like people who leave comments telling me they hate my nail color. Ok then, don't paint your nails this color then! There are luckily other places (and nail colors) out there! hahaha
Half the people that I have known that have visited Paris come away hating Paris, or Parisians.
It almost strikes me as a direct analog for New York City.
Many love it, many others hate it.
My goodness...he was very rude to you. This is one of the reasons why people overseas have tagged us "Ugly Americans" because of the willful ignorance and arrogance of those who refuse to be more mature and respectful of others. How can one base a valid opinion of a country, especially if they have been there only once?
I can totally relate! I've never lived abroad but I grew up in residential NJ & have been living in NYC since 1999. Everyone that I grew up with has this preconceived idea about how life in NYC is. They either think that I'm having the time of my life partying every day & night, that I live in a concrete jungle & don't enjoy the park or the beach, or I'm living scared because of the high crime. None of these things are true. When I moved, it was a life's decision that I'll never regret. In fact, moving here changed me because it opened my mind to seeing how other people different than me live. I'm a completely different person because of this decision. In fact, not only do I live here, but I work here. Not only that, but I'm a teacher so I'm making a difference in a community here that I care about. Had I not made my move from a place with people who are still very close-minded, I would probably not be doing what I do today.
Just got back from France had a wonderful time people were nice very helpful kind.
Glad you appreciated France, you are welcome anytime sir đđŒ
I can relate. While traveling around the USA I no longer tell people âIâm from Chicagoâ because the news has given that a very negative connotation. Instead I say that Iâm from Illinois. I guess people just automatically have assumptions about places theyâve never been to based upon movies & TV.
Chicago is a wonderful city đ
After I stopped living in the mid-West, my most recent visits back have convinced me that Chicago is a truly great city.
I am from France 1nd Chicago is one of the top 5 cities I wish to visit, city with a lot of history and its own mindset it seems, I like that đ
You are a wise woman. Always learning from your videos.
I appreciate that!
*French people are some of the most criticized persons in the World... but when I see how people act/react elsewhere !!!* đ€ŠđŒââïž
*We would never see people reacting like this in France*
Thank you, Diane, you spoke for me as well. I live in California and I go through the same thing. Because many people have left the state, I'm judged for political reasons. Ironically, this comes from people that haven't a clue about me. They don't know my political beliefs and personal life situation. They automatically assume them just because I'm here. It all boils down to ignorance and close-mindedness. It's a shame that people choose to live their lives in a box instead of seeking the real truth. Sending you much love and many blessings!
I agree with you 100%. I left California to move to a state where I could live more cheaply. I find that all the people who criticize Californians have never visited there and don't have the first idea how large and diverse it is.
@@richardpodnar5039 That's it exactly! They don't think for themselves. Their lives are lived through the opinions of others. That way of thinking is a breeding ground for ignorance. Ultimately, it can lead to insane behavior.
I can identify to some extent. I lived in France only for one year, but it was life-changing. When I told people I had done this, I felt some judged me as showing off, especially when I mentioned the advantage of language immersion. A lot of Americans (not all!) have no interest in other languages or cultures. In some cases they can be defensive and dismissive about it. As you say, many have never even visited another country, let alone live there. They assume it's elitist to talk about living in France. I don't bring up having lived there unless it's relevant to conversation. Some are surprised and ask me about (that's rare though, even with positive reactions) and some talk about living in Italy or some other country. There is nothing whatsoever to be ashamed about living in France or anywhere you choose. What others think of you is beyond your control and it's best to assume they have some insecurity that makes them react negatively in this situation.
Thank you for this. I realized that there are countries I feel so negatively about (France is not one of them) that I would make judgemental assumptions about anyone I met and learned they are from, or live in, that country. So you've alerted me to my need to make some internal adjustments. Your content is always valuable - salut!
Think you've had problems? I was born in USA, grew up in Saudi Arabia, high school in Italy and Switzerland, BA from Amercan University when I was 15, became Canadian on invitation to teach here, and have lived in 5 countries in So. America for the past 36 years . . . Talk about a conversation-stopper!
Sounds like it would be a fascinating convo!!
@@OuiInFrance Yes--for someone unafraid, like you, like me. . . DIANNE, GET USED TO IT! Most of the people we meet find nothing in your life nor mine to relate to; they feel like hicks, comparing their lives to ours. Of course they're jealous, envious, resentful and knee-jerk, defensively critical.
How do you answer the question âBut where are you FROM?â
I have lived in three countries and am a citizen of two, and I still have to think before answering that one.
@@gerardacronin334 Don't think! I usually immediately answer, "I was born in New York . . . sort of . . ." followed by "On a Canadian Air flight (since defunct) from Montréal to NYCity. So, my birth was registered at Bellvue Hospital, making me a US citizen, but because I was on a Canadian plane, I was also recognized as Canadian (I travel exclusively on a Canadian passport). . . . which is always met with silence, confusion, looks of askance, and those people never really become friends. I've twice tried to renounce my US citizenship, but to no avail. (What's with the U:S.--afraid to lose one citizen?) Anyway, start off with "I was born in . . ."
@@TalentedDilittante Well, you certainly have an interesting origin story, being born in the air! As for difficulty in renouncing US citizenship, I think the US wants to tax you. Only the US and Eritrea tax people on the basis of citizenship.
I am Irish-Canadian, have lived in Canada for over half my life, and travel on my Canadian passport. I used to bring my EU passport to Europe and return to Canada on my Canadian passport, but I got some strange reactions from immigration officers during flight connections, so these days I keep it simple. When people ask me where Iâm from, if I am travelling outside Canada, I tell them I live in British Columbia, Canada. Most people accept that and if so I donât offer any further information. If they ask me where Iâm âreally fromâ I tell them I was born in Ireland but have lived in Canada for many years.
Very interesting. It's very unfortunate that you've had rude reactions from people when they learn you live in France. I would add that there are people who for political reasons dislike Europe/Europeans. Never forget that freedom fries nonsense too. Thanks for sharing!
I was involed in a 'fire fight ' over the Freedom Fries silliness. I pointed out that a tiny town near my French house has a war memorial in the town square qhich had probably two hundred names on it...many more that the town now has living there. There were fwer men to fight for freedom after two world wars and a war in Indo China. So tragic , but it is the same story all over France. Also elderly ladies always tell one that "my son and his family went to live in Canada". Yes, the country towns in France are dying for want of children, take note, America, your children are more important than you know.
âFreedom Friesâ - the idiots who started that apparently were unaware that French fries originated in Belgium đ
@@m64h đ€vous ne savez pas que les frites sont bien originaires de FRANCE.
N'aime pas l'Europe đź d'oĂč viennent les AmĂ©ricains blancsđ€đ€
â@@hervedupont6955Je dirais rĂ©gion Nord/Belgique. La bonne cuisine ne se prĂ©occupe pas des frontiĂšres :)
Iâm an American who has lived in France for the past 7+ years. I enjoy your videos. I work about 18 weeks/year in the USA (semi retired surgeon đ). Overwhelmingly people are favorable about my choice to live in France. I do occasionally hear, âdonât you like the USA?â I answer, âof course!â This is just the best place for me right now! Thank you for your interesting videosđ
I am Franco-American I feel the same thing, but I can get from both sides! I had to tell my American father a Vietnam veteran sergeant and a hard-headed one at that who hates the French people, and he is old man, I can not change his mind! All I know is he hates that I am here of all the place I could, but France: this is something he does not deal with it well yes my mother is French, I was born in Paris but as a dual citizen because he was in the army, but his kid that is named after him is American! What he fails to understand is I am not French or American I am both or neither, but I am not just American, I know of no one in my shoes! Family on both sides of the world and I hated by both sides for being both as if this was my evil plan to get them both! I do have better things to do, like watch your channel, and it helps!
My son is also french and american also born in Paris , after visiting Normandy he met many French people who love American
Your dad has to get rid of his hate because it's going to make him sick, there are good and bad people no matter where you are in this planet , may God bless him and change his heart .
monsieur , j'arrive a l'automne de la ma vie , je supposes que vitre pĂšre dĂ©teste les français qu'il doit considĂ©rer comme des lĂąches , des peureux . mon grand-pĂšre a combattu en 1917 en quatre jours cette bataille a fait cĂŽtĂ© français 187 000 morts et 163000 blessĂ©s ! la guerre 14 18 un millions huit cents milles morts et disparus cĂŽtĂ©s français deux millions trois cents milles morts cĂŽtĂ©s allemands . lors de la guerre 1939-1945 ce sont les anglais qui ont Ă©tĂ© les premiers a dĂ©clarer la guerre Ă l'Allemagne Nazi aprĂšs l'invasion de la Pologne suivi des français 15 jours plus tard en octobre 1939 les français passent a l'attaquent l'Allemagne dans le nord est de la France en trois jours ils sont Ă Cologne mais sous la prĂ©ssion de la Russie des Etats Unies et des britanniques l'armĂ©es française est obligĂ©e de stopper l'avance et retourner en France . l'armĂ©e française avait 3 fronts a dĂ©fendre le Sud -est de Nice a la FrontiĂšre Suisse , le Nords est toujours de Suisse jusqu'Ă la frontiĂšre du Luxembourg l'armĂ©e britannique le Nord Ouest avec les Français le 10 mai les allemands passent a l'attaque aux Pays-Bas et Belgique pays neutres . le 15 mai l'Amiral Ramsay prĂ©pare l'opĂ©ration "dynamo" en faite l'Ă©vacuation de l'armĂ©es britannique entre Calais et Dunkerque . le 20 mai les anglais commencent a embarquer . contrairement aux idĂ©es reçu les Français ce battent avec acharnement et remportent des victoires las allemands ne sont jamais arriver en France la Fleurs aux fusils en 1 mois 120 000 soldats français sont tuĂ©s et 96 000 allemands cotĂ©s britannique 4700 morts . dans le sud est l'armĂ©e française mette en dĂ©route la coalitions : italiennes , autrichiennes et allemandes . a la frontiĂšre nord -est l'armĂ©e française tient tĂȘte aux allemands jusqu'au mois AoĂ»t 1940 et se rendent sur ordre du nouveau gouvernement de marĂ©chal PĂ©tain ? dĂšs 1940 la rĂ©sistances française prends forme dans ma Famille mon Grand PĂšre paternel est arrĂȘtĂ©s par les nazis le 24 novembre 1942 aprĂšs avoir Ă©tĂ© torturer , il es fusillĂ© le 12 dĂ©cembre 1942 ; mon pĂšre lui aussi rĂ©sistant est arrĂȘter le 3 avril 1943 torturer il est dĂ©portĂ© au camp de concentration de Mauthausen en Autriche puis envoyĂ© creuser un tunnel a la frontiĂšre Austro Yougoslavie au camp concentration de Loibl-Pass voilĂ concernant ma famille ! Effectivement le dĂ©barquement anglo amĂ©ricain a eu lieu en Normandie , mais en aucun cas les amĂ©ricains n'ont dĂ©livrĂ©s la France il sont remonter vers le nord et la Belgique . par contre l'aviation amĂ©ricaine a dĂ©truit les Villes françaises : Le havre , Caen , Saint LĂŽ , Cherbourg , Saint Malo , Brest , Lorient , Saint Nazaire , faisant 96 000 morts femmes enfants vieillards hommes sans jamais rĂ©ussirent Ă dĂ©truire les ports . + les viols des femmes françaises commis par les G'is . Pour rappel les amĂ©ricains voulaient annexer la France par plan A.M.G.O.T
quand mon pĂšre est rentrĂ© en France il s'est engager dans l'armer française . il est parti en Indochine : Vietnam - Cambodge-Laos alors colonies françaises , que la chine voulais annexer . la guerre a durĂ©s de 1946 Ă 1955 en tout il a Ă©tĂ© 8 annĂ©es a combattre au Vietnam et Laos les français et vietnamiens se battaient entre soldats . lĂ la France a perdu l'Indochine ; ensuite les amĂ©ricains sont arriver au Vietnam avec leurs matĂ©riels sont aviation , le napalm , agent orange un puisant dĂ©foliants , pendant les vingts annĂ©es de guerres les amĂ©ricains ont perdus mais laissant derriĂšre eux un dĂ©sastre . de 2008 Ă 2021 mon Ă©pouse et moi avons vĂ©cus au Vietnam et Laos , je travaillais pour une sociĂ©tĂ© française . mĂȘme a cette Ă©poque les enfants naissaient avec des dĂ©formations , le cancer de la peau des poumons etc. font des ravages . mais le peuple amĂ©ricains le sait il . s'ait il que depuis 1942 l'AmĂ©rique dĂ©clare des guerres partout dans le monde . quand les français ont refuser d'aller en Irak les français riaient de la bĂȘtise et l'ignorence et la bĂȘtise des amĂ©ricains avec de le fameux Freedom Fries qui n'ont jamais Ă©tĂ© françaises
I know what you mean about your Dad. My Dad is stuck on Franceâs political decisions during WWII which makes him dislike the country. I am chipping away at him though haha telling him all the great things about France. I hope in time he will start seeing the country as it is now and not itâs history because I hope to move there one day and my parents need to come with me.
What most people don't get is that WWII came after WWI, you might dig a little into that and show your father.
I've not lived abroad but I can relate in some way to your experiences. I was born and raised in England but my family all come from Galicia in Spain, and when I was younger and people discovered that fact, I would then be exposed to all the assumptions and stereotypes that people had about Spain in general. The same happens a bit now, but thankfully the reactions today are mostly on the neutral side and sometimes they can also be the source of interest and conversation which is enjoyable. Where I have indeed struggled more is when people find out I'm gay, nowadays the responses are thankfully almost always neutral, that certainly wasn't always the case, but nevertheless people still have a tendency to make all sorts of assumptions as to what my life is like, what my values are, and what my interests or views are etc. It's uncomfortable noticing people make quite profound assumptions about you before they have even got to know you & instantly adjusting their interaction with you.
Thank you for making this really interesting and thought-provoking video.
I get the same thing for being Catholic. đđđ
I love hearing about life in other countries. It is truly eye opening.
I used to live in the US for 40 years, but was born in the UK. I left the US in 2004 to Ireland, stayed 4 years there until I fell in love and moved to France.
I will tell you this, I have never felt so much xenophobia from Americans online, but I always have a snappy answer in response. I don't put up with it. They see my name, where I live and get downright disgusting. The US doesn't have racism, misogyny, anti-lgbt, misandry, etc problem, but a hate problem. This needs to change.
Another nationality gets a lot of hate, Germany/Germans and this comes from my home country, the UK. Makes me sick to my stomach.
Germany is wonderful. I'm french and I've gotten the opportunity to live there for a while. Didn't meet the best people professionally but I made really good friends there and it was really peaceful to live there. If people, especially Americans aren't capable of separating history and present time, it's problematic. Same with generalising stereotypes to the whole population. Because we, Europeans don't blame them for having done all the very bad things they have done in the past. I feel very sad for the hate that I've personally felt a lot recently and I take it very personally sometimes. I hope you enjoy your opportunity of living between all these different cultures.
Germany gets so much shit from Americans to this very day and I don't understand it,,,, I feel like most of it comes down to a very blatant misunderstanding of Europe as a whole. Americans either think Europeans have it all perfect and figured out or that they're some lesser people, I haven't yet seen any in-between... Meanwhile everyone here in Europe is pretty chill about other european nationalities, I feel like sometimes foreigners get offended on behalf of us for stuff we moved on from so long ago?
@@tinowo5682 I used to live in the US, grew up there, but really, really love living in Europe. I like the attitude "work to live" and not the US version of "live to work." It's changed my life.
The UK (where I'm from) has real issues with Germans and I have no idea why. There's a case I'm following and it's about a missing British girl and the Germans feel they got the guy that abducted this child. You see the most messed up comments coming from the British on FB and twitter. It's not right. It's truly awful.
Yes, Europe is definitely pretty chill.
@@tinowo5682 Sans les allemands , les américains n'auraient jamais été sur la lune en 1969 . Von Braun celui qui a conduit les programmes V1 puis V2 et a la fin de la seconde guerre mondiale a été récupérer par les américains . pour tant cet homme Nazie convaincu était responsable d'une centaine de milliers de morts par faim et maladie au camp de concentration de Dora . les responsables américains ont bus la honte jusqu'à la lie
I am so tired of people being rude and thinking that is acceptable behaviour! Yes, they're unhappy with their own lives, and probably envious of yours, but that doesn't give them the right to be rude. And when CZcamsrs have to tell people not to leave nasty comments, which they all seem to have to do now, that is a very sad and concerning state of affairs.
Couldn't agree more. We are about to move back to France (been living in the U.S for 20 years), and I'm now refraining myself from talking about it. SO MANY ASSUMPTIONS! People think you think you are better than them.
Diane, thank you for being so real and down to earth!
Thank YOU for watching ;-)))
I am English but I have lived in Texas for many years(my husband found a job here). When I go back to Britain I get the Nationalistic cold shoulder. Customs people (often from nations who were a rarity when I lived there) are aggressive and rude.
We have a little house in France (thank Goodness). It is a modest workman's house which we love, in a small country town near Limoges. If we had more money we could do much more to it, but the constant wrestle with ancient plumbing that springs all sorts of leaks, only when we have guests, a rez de chaussee that is less than glorious in spite of a new shower room is, I admit, off putting. However the house is lovely. I have learned that Americans want to leave as soon as they can but my British friends love it. I should say that one American, a very learned architect was found exploring the old fireplace and chimney which would have been where the spit cooking was done in the 17th century, with a level of enthusiasm that was heart warming! English and French family and friends love it..they are used to old houses and all their peculiarities.
One guest, who insisted on leaving the next day, commented on our journey to Limoges airport actually said, in all seriousness, "what lovely views, who does the landscaping?" I did think quickly enough to say "God"!
We cannot please everyone so take us as you find us, mind the uneven stairs that you are not used to, sorry about the unfinished bits, the mice make a hell of a row sometimes, the spiders are called "Harvesters and are afraid of you; and please see the beauty we see and the good food and wine we enjoy from Carrefour!
I love your channel. My first visit to France wasnât so positive but your channel has reopened my eyes and given me a new appreciation for French culture and France đ«đ· in general. Please keep up the good work đ„°
Wow, I have to admit I'm a bit shocked to hear what sorts of judgements you've been subject to, but at the same time not surprised. Can't say I blame you for wanting to avoid totally unnecessary unpleasantness - life is hard enough without opening the door to more of it. I've got things I don't share either for the exact same reason. People can get quite defensive, as though my choices and experiences are somehow a judgement on their own. My philosophy is "you do you," so it always puzzles me why some people feel the need to react to some habit or choice of mine with a laundry list of reasons for why they can't do the same or why I'm mistaken in my preferences. So yeah, why go there?
Yes, I donât get that. Now, I consider good wines and other alcoholic beverages to be among the great pleasures of life, but I never try to convince someone to have a glass of whatever, and if I am having guests who donât drink, I ask them what I should purchase for them. But I have friends who will pressure others to âjust have a glass of wineâ. Strange - if someone doesnât drink, thatâs more for me!đ
Hi Diane, I personally am so happy you got the opportunity to live in France. I think it is wonderful. Learning about and living in a new culture is not simple.I admire you for learning a new language.French is not a simple language to learn and either is cultural etiquette. It all takes practice. Thanks for sharing your experiences of the French culture. I so glad you are happy living in France. Judy
Thanks so much, Judy!
True about the unhappiest of people are the ones with the rudest and strangest reactions! I have 2 homes, one in Southern California and the other near my grandkids in Mississippi. Trust me, just mentioning Mississippi has a pre-assumptions of that state too. Iâm a flight attendant and when I travel/work and passengers ask me where I live, I always say Los Angeles only because Iâm tired of explaining how beautiful and wonderful living in Mississippi! So, itâs all about education and being open minded with places that youâre not familiar and base judgment on assumptions. Iâm also French, so I totally get it with being close minded! lol
People love to hate on my home state of NJ, so I totally understand where you're coming from. I hope to visit Mississippi one day soon and see how beautiful it is for myself ;-)
I lived in Mississippi for three years and I loved it.
I used to have a friend that used to get mad when I prepared his plate of food to look "nice". I realize today that he was already upset about his situation. He didn't want hoitie toity food!
Hoity toity ? Seriously ?
@@NotChefCook Yes! But I did turn it into a joke in the end! Would you like a hoity toity dessert this evening (usually meaning adding berries). He was not big on fruits and vegetables!
I'm American and I lived in the UK for about a decade. I 100% get what you're saying. Sometimes people perceive another person's living abroad as a rejection of the US. Like "what's wrong with our country?" Also, since obtaining permission to stay in another country is so difficult (not everyone can marry their way into it) that envy becomes their reaction. I think many more people would love to live abroad (at least for a short time) if they could, but they can't, so that plays into their response.
I also understand the living a regular life abroad vs the tourist experience. Although, I still felt living in London was special as every time I did something that I could not do in the US, it felt magical to me. Like seeing the world's best theatre on a regular basis. Or living amongst centuries old buildings.
Always love your content Diane. I find it so relatable. And you're such a good presenter. Another great post!
Thank you Dianne.
So much to unbox here or maybe not.
Please know i appreciate and watch your channel not because of where you live but because of your personal perspective on adapting to a different geographic location. Maybe the same pros and cons you would find anywhere.
Spending the majority of my life living in the northeast United States ive always admired other cultures and specifically have a strong interest in the life of everyday ""regular "" French people. I try not to make assumptions. I would love to learn about life there but never had theeans to travel to France. Your channel and the fantastic way you present content on life in France has been a blessing to me. Thank you.
I am dismayed to learn you have had to deal with such negativity and judgmental individuals. Please know that I believe many people share my respect and admiration of you. Its my hope that you will continue to produce these informative and valuable videos.
My very best regards
Hi Diane. Great đđ» video. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I can understand why you do not feel comfortable sharing where you live. At the same time, itâs a shame that there are so many narcissistic, immature, insensitive, disrespectful and downright jealous people out there who cannot be happy for someone elseâs success and happiness. Keep up the great work đ! đđ»â€ïžđ«đ·
I completely understand. I lived in the south of France for almost 10 years. Some people in France would attack me about our politics even if I'd never met them before and knew nothing about me, so that was tough too. People are people and you can't please them all. Stay close to positive people, no matter where they come from and let the negativity and the people who bring it be on their way. đ
I am currently in my « not mentioning France phase of life ». đ . Even with my family it gets weird sometimes. But, moving here was the best choice I ever made
Always articulate and describes the overseas experience well ! Thank you Diane.
You are so welcome!
What I have experinced living in France is that when something bad happens at home in the US. Even though I want to be there to help. I call all the time to check in. I get. "well your not here." What I have experienced living in France is that when something bad happens at home in the US. Even though I want to be there to help. I call all the time to check in. I get. "well, youâre not here." That hurts. Or people and family get mad when I am home, and I do see them while I am home. I come home to get away from life for a vacation and time to relax, not to be bombarded by everyone in my huge family. The plane does go both ways. Since I have been in France for 10 years now. No one at all from my family has come to visit me in France. It is frustrating. France is a great beautiful place to live. But yes it is real life just like anywhere else. I have also experienced the same thing, but the opposite way around. When people ask me where I am from here in France. A lot of them donât understand Why move to France. Well my husband is French and 10 years ago US did not have marriage equality. It is truly that simple. Quite a few French hold the US up as a high standard. We all know that is not true
I'm sorry to hear about the lack of support from family. That's really hard, especially the "well you aren't here" â€ïž
I donât live in France but another European country (for over 20 years now) and I can relate to all of this. I too never mention living abroad unless it fits the conversation.
Well said Diane. You are very eloquent in explaining how you feel and have touched on some people's ignorance, particularly when dealing with people who haven't travelled. I'm off on another holiday to Paris next year hence how I found your You Tube videos. Thank you for sharing your experiences and tips. As you say, don't worry about what other people think.đSalut!
I soooo loved your presentation. I've lived in France on and off for 13 years and identify with everything you said. I'm from Australia and the reactions are the same so I don't mention it anymore. My parent immigrated to Australia from Europe and I thought , easy, my parents did it so can I. But immigrating to another country is so difficult and it doesn't matter where you immigrated to. I take my hat off to anyone who immigrates to another country. As much as I love France, I call it "the French illusion".
Bonjour Diane. If wasn't something not done in France, I would give you a big hug now. My first reaction is more on the line of, "Oh really, which part of France," because I have some awareness that living in Paris is somewhat living in Brittany and living in a town is different is different to live in the country. So I don't know if you will pick up on my comment after so many months but I would love to hear more about different customs in different parts of France. Finally know that I love your channel. I confess that I have had to edit my comments to incorporate some of the graces in your videos. I have a friend who lives in France too and your channels helps us have a more engaging conversation. Salut!
So glad you enjoy my channel and thanks for the video idea!
Home is wherever you want it to be. I'm native American Indian living in Canada. I appreciate your opinions.
Bonjour Diane. As always, your realistic and down to earth take on the experiences of an expat living in France are liberating. I believe the point of living anywhere is to strive to make the next day better than the last. Merci de partager ta sagesse! đ·Voila pour vous!!
As a Frenchman living in Japan for more than a decade, I find your exposé very compelling and point on. Keep up the good work and good luck for your future. ;-)
I really appreciate you putting into words things that I've been feeling too! French is my second language, and it's been my goal for years to move there after I finish my PhD in the US (where it's actually much cheaper, at least in the hard sciences). But any time I tell someone that I'm looking for jobs in Europe, they think I'm being boujie or they think it's such a "romantic" idea. I don't blame them, but I was born in the UK, my family is all European, I've visited Europe a lot over the years, and after doing a 3-month study abroad in Strasbourg during undergrad where I lived with a local family, I already know that life anywhere in Europe is just life.
Strasbourg is a lovely city.
One of my favourite đ
and this is another reason we are going to look at properties in Vendee in november. I love to ask people where they are from and then "please tell me something about it, the food, the climate etc"
you do great vids ty jimmy
Glad you enjoy my content, thank you! And have a wonderful trip in November. Hope you find a good place ;-)
@@OuiInFrance Got a cousin near Pouzauges, looks like I nice area. Like you video's, no matter where you go in the world, bring you manners and enjoy the culture. I grew up in limerick ireland and can't get enough of places and the people.
its amazing how forgiving people are when you show respect and make the effort.
jimmy
Enjoying your videosđ
Thank you! đ€
Love ya girl keep your info coming. Love your videos so much
Thank you! Will do!
Je n'aurais jamais cru ça en tant que Française ( merci Ă la traduction auto đ ). Je suis surprise et aurais tendance Ă penser le contraire, que les privilĂ©giĂ©s vivent aux Ătats-Unis, enfin bien sĂ»r ça dĂ©pend. On idĂ©alise souvent avant de connaĂźtre un pays qui nous semble mieux qu'il n'est par ce que l'on en montre de plus beau et cachant l'envers du dĂ©cor đ
@@dalriada7554 Oui ,forcĂ©ment et la rĂ©alitĂ© est quelquefois dĂ©cevante đđ
I totally agree with you, Diane. From my experience, Americans (including my family members) who have not been abroad (and cannot speak another language or experience another cuisine, culture, etc.) are jealous/envious of others who have lived abroad, and they get angry and hateful. To make matters worse, they (including my family members) will even backstab me. So, these days, I keep a low profile and not mention anything stylish or classy, but act extremely down to earth and low key. C'est la vie en U.S.A. Additionally, Americans generally think the U.S. is the greatest country on earth and they get angry whenever I mention about the good things in France đ đ€Łđ
Getting angry about good things in France is such a strangely defensive reaction! I've seen it too. Things being nice elsewhere doesn't take away from what people have at home. They aren't mutually exclusive!
I couldnât disagree with you more, and if anything, it looks as if you are projecting your attitudes onto others.
No American that truly thinks America is the best âalways and foreverâ would hate someone from a lesser country. That doesnât even make sense. If anything we would pity them.
Everyone should like where they live.
Very true for me too! Living here is very different from visiting. And the reactions are difficult at times. Thanks four videos. I really appreciate themđ
Hi Diane,
Living abroad gives people a more open mind. I am french living in germany (at the moment). Having seen a different way of living with different values and different way of doing things gives us the first reaction of curiosity, because we know there are things which are better and other which are not, and overall what we find good may not be what others find good.
For example I like german bread ... Imagine how the french look at me ??? I also like french bread, but not in all occasions.
France has a huge story telling, or at least Paris, but for outsider (and Parisians) Paris is France.
As an expat, though, I have the feeling we went through things that usually gives us more confidence in our choice of life. we took the risk, we experienced it and we stayed because it fitted us. I lived in other countries before and did not stay there ...
I was 72 when I finally clicked into my groove, so to speak. I was in France, but I imagine that any foreign residency would have done as well. It's good to get out of one's comfort zone.
Youâre such a smart sweet person and I love your videos - thank you for expanding our world. Itâs so interesting learning about different cultures!
Thank you so much!
I do the same thing - my early years were very international and I dodge the question when people ask where I grew up. If I tell the truth, their attitude kind of changes. I always then say I feel envious of people who grew up in one place as they have solid roots. It's the truth and it helps mitigate the situation :)
Thanks for your channel. We have been in our home in Pouzauges for a few months now and are so happy. Your episodes are great!
Glad you like them! Merci
It's not just a "living abroad" vs. "living in my home country" kind of thing. This happens no matter what. When I tell people I'm from Louisiana, I get all sorts of sad looks and frowns and "Oh, I'm so sorry" kind of reactions like because I'm from a very poor state in the US I must be uneducated, poor, and live in a tar paper shack on the edge of a swamp...which could not be further from the truth. My husband is from California and everyone assumes he grew up on a surfboard on a beach full of cute girls and muscle men. Again, nothing could be further from the truth. Instead of trying to hide it, speak right up with pride about it and start sharing all the wonderful things you love about France.
I love all your videos and how real you are! I love how you always talk about the reality of life in France. Every video is so interesting and informative. On one of my trips to France, my husband and I were shopping in a shoe store in Nice. We were talking to the young gentleman who was helping us, and he asked us where we were from. We told him that we were from Los Angeles, CA. He thought that was the coolest thing and wanted to go to LA so badly. I thought that was funny. I have lived here my whole life (almost 50 years) and itâs interesting to see how others view my hometown.
I believe you are wonderful and I have the deepest respect for you â€ïž
You're too kind, thank you
The reason I watch your videos is that It's fascinating.
Thank you so much for this, itâs glad to know Iâm not alone. This point even after only a year I think âit must be nice. âhas become a small trigger for me lol.
Thanks for sharing. Well done.
Diane, thank you so much for making these video's. You really help people understand the unknown. We visited France for the first time last May and had such a wonderful time and we didn't experience any of the negative things we thought we would encounter because of the negitive people you are talking about. We absolutely love France and look forward to our next trip. Thank you very much for helping us overcome misinformation and your enthusiasm is intoxicating.
I give you my opinion as a Frenchman: we have put so much into the minds of Americans that they are the best in everything, that they cannot imagine that one of theirs could like to live anywhere else than in the USA. Add to that a touch of jealousy...
Nous avons un proverbe pour cela : "laissez pisser le Mérinos", votre mari vous expliquera si nécessaire.
As a French lady who has been living in California for decades since my early teens, your sentiments are exactly how I feel! I no longer have an accent and of course, people assume that I am American... they start with the criticism of All French things, and yet. they buy French luxury items, drink French Champagne etc.. They have no idea who I am, and for the thousand time I need to defend, my French culture, my mannerisms, our French traditions that my mother instilled and reinforce in our home so I would not ever forget and I very grateful for it, as she passed away a few years ago. Je t'aime Maman!
What a very French thing to say lmao
Oh, yes, I hesitate to tell people that I am from West Virginia and have had rude questions about âbarefoot and pregnantâ and assumptions about music preferences and lack of education. Sometimes these comments from educated co-workers. I often just walk away, but sometimes respond with a conversation about classical music which I grew up with or what life was like when I worked in France đđ
West Virginia, from what I've seen in pictures, is remarkably beautiful. The Appalachian mountains are stunning. I grew up in the heart of the midwest, on the Mississippi, in a family of very modest means, so I appreciate your comment about the ignorant assumptions people make. Sigh.
I went to college in West Virginia and I also lived in Paris for one year and had other trips to France. And I have lived in other countries including England and parts of Africa, appreciated all of it. West Virginia is a beautiful state. And while it is probably a neglected state it has a lot to offer for people looking for The road less traveled
Diane, thank you for this video. You absolutely nailed it. I absolutely love and appreciate your videos.â€
I am so glad someone is discussing a real difficult issue those of us who have lived abroad face.
All i can say is 'All that glitters is not gold'.
Iâve even had the same negative reactions from people I knew when I moved from the north of the city I live in to the south side ! People are strange sometimes. Youâre right just go with it. Thanks Diane !
My mom calls me her French daughter to her friends. When I go and visit, I do get questions but they are super nice. She was overheard by someone-I was not visiting-and she got a snarky comment. She said she is careful who she says it to.
Great video Diane!!! As always it was insightful, balanced, respectful and human. I also have been in France for 10 years and I have exactly the same experiences in the US...
I also don't care anymore either. Now I kind of chuckle because people have their own stories in their heads.
I think at least in terms of the US there has always been a very strong level of American exceptionalism (and gross ignorance) plus some derivative of the Anglo-French rivalry.
Fast forward to the past 5 years and these notions are now on steroids.
Flying into a major East coast airport just before Christmas last year I got (shocker) a rude and aggressive Customs Border Patrol officer. How long was I away? A year. A year? Yes, I live in France. He rolled his eyes. "What... is America not good enough for you?"
To which I didn't answer. A battle would have been pointless.
I simply responded "I am from here. I grew up here. My family is here and I am coming to see them for Christmas. It's been a tough 2 years. I have elderly parents. Merry Christmas." He literally threw my passport back at me in anger. At what?
It was a pretty violent experience but what it showed me more was that it was his problem, his anger, his frustration.
Wasn't the first time...nor will it be the last with angry people. But the genie has been let out of the bottle recently in the US and this kind of openly hostile, xenophobic behavior has become even more socially acceptable. Americans have a serious anger problem...
Anyway thanks for this video... very astute and on target.
Hi rather than saying âI donât care what other people thinkâŠâ saying âI donât worry about what other people think ..â. Seems mote polite. Love you videos.
Thanks!
I totally understand everything you said. For those with negative reactions, those arenât the kind of people youâd ever associate yourself with because they are ignorant and probably in the cult. I love all of your videos. You are so wonderful and Iâm definitely grateful we have you in the world! Iâm definitely traveling to France in 2023! Thank goodness!! Thank you for everything Diane!! I love revisiting your grocery store videos! Now that the holidays are upon us, Iâd love to see another festive Diane video! Always makes me happy! â€ïž
Great show Diane
Glad you enjoyed the video!
My career developing new markets enabled me to live in lots of countries. It was hard to explain what I did and why I moved every few months. Even harder to answer the question "Where do you live?" I went from joking I was "homeless by choice" which made people uncomfortable, to picking a country which created judgement based on their perception, to just ignoring the question. Now I say "I'm retired and enjoy seeing the world!" which is non-committal and sparks conversation about travel.
while living abroad. i had 2 attitudes:
1 distraction: say quickly i'm french but i am here and i do this and that. (focus on active things)
2 avoidance: sometimes 1 out of a billion, would be conflictual with me just because of my nationality , so no point in arguing. (clichés+ignorance arent good) But it turned out sometimes, working with them or being part of activities, or inviting them with friends at home , they can quickly change their mind in less than 1 day!
I understand itâs been some time since this video is out, and I find myself agreeing with you 100%.
I do however think you are specifically talking of American peopleâs view of hearing someone living in France đ
As a Levantine whoâs lived in multiple places in North America for a few years, later spent some time in France, and now living in my home country, a LOT of peopleâs impression comes from the media, and Hollywood is still selling people the American Dream, which really doesnât help whenever I get into a conversation about where I lived , and why I am where I am today, and how I found a place I belong to ⊠from that angle I totally agree with you on battling peopleâs views on things they donât know.
The grass will ALWAYS be greener on the other side of the fence, and I understood that the people most defensive about their views of certain nations and how people live in them, are the people whoâve never lived in more than one culture, the same people who might consider this or that far away land to contain the cure for ALL their fears and high hopes for a less unhappy life, and you can never win an argument with an ignorant person.
People fail to realize that changing countries will do little more than changing shoes if one is not happy with oneâs life.
I love your T-shirt đ đ reminds me of a present I have once given to a French friend, it was a rock panel for their new aquarium on which is carved : âJ mâen Fish !â đđ
Diane, my personal point of view: Who cares what others think of you. You live your life and people live their lives. If we are happy where we live, thatâs good enough. Why compared others with ourselves? Please continue to live your happy life in France. As a Hong Kong Chinese, I have been to France for quite a few times and I must say: âjâadore la France, la culture et Les bouffesâ !
Sorry about the loss of your much loved dog.
Thank you â€ïž
Very interesting to hear your perspective! I'm an American living in Mexico. Opposite isn't quite the right word, but my experience has been almost the opposite. My family is the one that tends to make the assumptions, think negatively of it, not even ask questions, etc. and strangers or acquaintances are the ones that think it's neat or want to know more.
I took two years of French in college and fell in love with France. One of my best friends in college spent a summer there and I always envied him and wished I could visit France. Also in college, I saw a lot of foreign films, especially French and Italian, and loved them. So if I were to meet you and you told me you were living in France, I would instantly want to know more, and probably think it sounded wonderful. I admire you for making such a remarkable and successful move to another country. I can't believe people would insult you or make ridiculous remarks because you live in France. Two years ago I moved to Florida, and I'm embarrassed to admit it. I would a million times rather be from France than from Florida! Merci for your video, et bonne journée. (I'm out of practice, hope that means have a nice day.")
You are right. I did seek out your channel because in visiting France there are so many things I loved. We are coming to 'live' this next summer for a month in France and so looking forward to that. TY for your many fun/informative videos.
Thank you this bc this is exactly how I feel. I live abroad my self in Belgium at the moment and have been living in different countries and every time reaction is same as yours. I feel like I have to tell them immediately that oh well itâs not so great because of this and this etc. Iâm from Finland and people are very jealous there. I hate how it is. But reaction is mostly same everywhere.
What a lovely well grounded human you are,just love you
it also reminds me how restaurants sometimes make a food sound fancy using french words for an item. like, girl that just means "with cheese" calm down. đđ
As a small-town "provinciale" living in the South-West of France, in Paris I've experienced Parisian people looking us up and down: "How can you bear living in the province ? Aren't you bored to death ? etc etc etc "Poor you, no nice restaurants, no nice boutiques, no cultural events...". Some despise us ; I just laughed about it and invited them to come and visit us and marvel at our active cultural life with one of the best orchestras in the world at the Capitole in Toulouse, that Albi is a World Heritage city and that we can dress even better than them, and we've got 3-stars restaurants as well. The sea only 3 hours'd drive, the Pyrénées mountain as well, the ocean 4. And when asked when did they last go to see a nice play, or go to a 3-stars place : they complained of how difficult if is to go places, what with the traffic, and no babysitters etc etc...
i believe one has got to remain smiling and laid back when facing criticisms. "Bien faire et laisser braire" ( just do the right thing and let donkeys bray).
-Or : "Les chiens aboient, la caravane pass" (dogs bark, the caravan passes).
Diane, I lived in France for 2 years and I totally understand your explanations. đșđžđ€đ«đ·
Did you get some of the same comments?
@@OuiInFrance I lucked out, Diane. No, I didn't. I always received Answers #1 and mostly #2. Nobody gave me bad attitude and grief, however I can TOTALLY see and understand what you're saying in your exposé and why you're saying it. "The only thing worse being talked about, is not being talked about." -Oscar Wilde
Hi Diane. I love France but I realize that it's real life when you live there. I haven't lived there (yet) but I have spent enough time there to realize it becomes everyday stuff like anywhere else. To have a little fun with snarky people, speak English with a French accent. You will be really snooty lol. Love your channel.
We all live in the same planet so avoid small minded people and be happy with your friends with open minded ,
Excellent points, and really to speak out about these issues
I live in the US and I travelled a lot and grew up in Europe. I just completely avoid telling americans anything. it just does not go over well. In addition, you can tell americans you live in Portugal, and then later they will say to you "yeah, so you live in Italy , right ? " I'm glad to watch this video because I think americans think I am hiding something or am very cut off, but I just get so sick of explaining that i didnt grow up on main street in suburbia. I also speak languages and this is not valued by Americans at all... Americans are puzzled WHY I would have studied language (because it's a waste of time ).
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I know the feeling. I have lived in Thailand for 15 years now I used to go back to the U.S. for the holidays and stay with my Mom but since she died in 2016 and I came back and I have no plans to go back to the U.S. again.
Last time I was in the U.S. I had to go into a bank and was asked for my ID. I said of course and pulled out my passport. The lady said that wasn't any good for an ID. I told her it was harder to get than I Driver license and she asked for my licenses. At this point I decided to have some fun with her. So I reached into my pocket and pulled out my wallet and got out my licenses and handed it to her. She took one look at it and got this look of confusion. She looked at me and asked what this was and I told her it was my Thai driver licenses. She picked up my passport and possessed whatever it was I was doing. She didn't even say thank you. LOL
A U.S. passport is supposed to be the #1 identification, but whenever I have gone to job applications where you are supposed to bring ID, and a passport is EXPLICITLY permitted, I have been told to show my driver's licence instead.
Maybe it's because they want a home address on it along with name and ID? Not sure.
@@OuiInFrance you have to have a home address to get a Passport .
@@theadventuresofbrockinthai4325 Yes, I know. I meant that the address is not displayed on the passport picture page like it is on a driver's license.
I come from France and I've been studying and living in Germany for two years. I also sometimes get weird questions or reactions when I meet people in France, for example people always ask me if I can speak german
I guess living abroad can be seen as snob from people who speak only one language, it makes them remember it, so they might feel inferior or threatened
Thank you so much for your sharing, so enlightening! I am originally from Hong Kong. Most of my American colleagues reactly bizarrely when I tell them, year after year, that I live in Paris.
I relate to this as a Frenchie living in Canada with lots of americans in my surrounding, sometimes just saying that I am French or pronouncing a french word is enough to get labeled as fancy pretentious rude coward. I get that people have their stereotype, but it shouldn't justify switching to hostility. It can sometimes be actually damaging when it's from people like your coworkers, where everything you say or do will be seen through that lens no matter what you do.
But at least most of the time it's just inoffensive situations that you can sometimes use to make people laugh with, like one time someone told me "oh you have a scarf today? french people really like to dress up fancy all the time!" and I just replied "girl it's a dollar store scarf and it's literally pouring snow outside"
And when I go back in France i totally get the same situation where I prefer to not mention I live in Canada to people I don't know how they will react. I had sometimes an old lady start a weird angry one-sided discussion "well we have cold winter here as well", and I wasn't even the one initiating the convo at all.
Bonjour, Diane. I LOVE this video! What you are saying is so true. I was so surprised to get the #3 reactions from people when I told them my husband and I are moving to France. I also relate to the 24/7 vacation mindset. My husband and I just moved here a week ago and although my husband is retired (for the most part), I am not. I am also someone who enjoys staying home curled up with my blanket, and am perfectly happy not having to leave the apartment all day long. My husband, however, is still in 24/7 vacation mindset at the moment, which I know will subside as we settle into every day life here (at least I hope so đ). Your channel has been so helpful. I was practicing my Growl and Sighs yesterday to improve my french "r"... Merci đ€đ€
Ok ... I just read your shirt and now I'm laughing pretty hard. I want that shirt ahah !
Glad you like it! It's in my shop along with the same design on bags, mugs, stickers, etc. ;-) oui-in-france.creator-spring.com/?