Bob's Burgers: All Pre-Movie Grover Fischoeder Scenes
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
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Back when we foolishly thought he was the least evil Fischoeder.
I'd say he's the second most evil now. I'd still say Felix is the most unhinged
He still might be, we don't know everything about the other 2!
@@imbored1179 apparently according to the wiki in the movie they mention a third brother Baxter Fischoeder is the worst member of the family idk if that means he's the most evil or they hated him for who knows what, but he's also dead.
@@Randomdude1979 Maybe he was too much of a goody-goody for the Fischoeder brothers to handle. He must have been a pain in their ass if that was the case.
I mean.... he's not that evil
One of the little things that made the movie great is that it stayed within the world of the show. Like in the Simpson' movie it was all "Oh no, the EPA put a dome over Springfield and this guy we never met before is trying to kill everyone! Homer, quick ride this motorcycle up this vertical surface before the nuke in your hands goes off!"
Everything that happened in the Bob's Burgers movie felt natural, like it was all the same stuff they deal with all the time. The most fantastical thing was that someone was actually murdered and when it came time to do the reveal, it was someone we knew, even if it was just a small side character.
Also, compared to The Simpsons Movie, they went to great lengths to make sure you could easily go right back to the status quo of the series while still giving the characters development. In The Simpsons Movie they make a big deal about deconstructing Homer's destructive and selfish behavior and having him learn for the better.....only to go right back to him being a dumbass in the series lol
@@CaptainJZH And that is why The Simpsons should've ended with the movie.
@@CaptainJZH
Well to be fair I doubt the cast in Bobs Burgers will change that much from the movie, we'll just have lost Grover, who wasn't really around much anyway
That's an aspect of the movie that I greatly enjoyed. So many films based on animated shows usually see the main characters embarking on a big, grand, road trip adventure of some sort for whatever reason (i.e The Simpsons Movie, pretty much all three Spongebob Movies, all three Rugrats Movies, The Chipmunk Adventure, The Teacher's Pet Movie, Beavis and Butthead Do America, Ed, Edd, and Eddy's Big Picture Show, etc) I love how they kept it within the limits of the Belcher's neighborhood. In fact, a good chunk of the movie takes place at Wonder Wharf, which is just down the street from the family's restaurant. It's impressive with what they did with the story and how they utilized familiar locations to it's advantage. The only other films I know that follow this format are The Hey Arnold Movie, Doug's First Movie, and Recess Schools Out (To an extent since that one does see the main characters traveling long distance for a brief time).
Okay, but like... when you describe The Simpsons Movie like that, it sounds awesome!
Honestly, with the twist from the movie in hindsight, a lot of these scenes feel like Grover silently going along with his cousins’ bogus plans through gritted teeth.
YEAH baby lol
I feel like he follows along in the hopes that someone reports them. It looks like he’s trying to get Bob to call the police with how obvious he is that his cousins are doing something illegal
Back when we barely knew him and didn't know his true colors.
And Cotton Candy Dan was dead this whole time
Buried in front of the restaurant for six years
I guess him being a Fischoeder should have given it away
@@henryventura1919 SIX YEARS!!!
@@CaptainJZH The movie had a a lot. Many secrets were revealed and others things a shame not that much people are watching it. Also it was funny when he screamed six years
I like the fact that Grover strongly hints to Bob that his cousins are doing something illegal, probably hoping Bob reports them
He knows there's a body out in the world. Even here, Cotton Candy Dan is missing, and Grover quietly sit on that.
The bit about the candle hits different after the movie
He just couldn’t have them commit a crime when he’s around to be a suspect 😂
As someone who never really tuned into the show before seeing the movie, I’m surprised that he was such a minor character that barely appeared in the series, but I also appreciate that the movie didn’t introduce a new character that we’re never gonna see again. At least there’s a possibility of Grover showing up or getting mentioned in the future.
I found it a bit weird that they suddenly made Calvin be mean to him though. They seemed like they legitimately got along in previous episodes, so calvin all of a sudden being a bully to him at every chance seems to go against their established relationship (however little it was established.) as funny as the scenes of Calvin and Felix tormenting Grover are, I honestly think it would have been much more interesting to have Calvin really care about and trust his cousin and feel super betrayed when it turns out he was behind it all (see he suspects that kind of thing from his brother, he knows his brother is unstable, but once he found out he couldn't trust Grover he would truly have nobody he could fully trust.) a lot of the characters got to explore new emotional depth in the movie and even though he is a side character Mr. Fischoeder is one of the most enigmatic characters in the series and he has a lot of unexplored depth that i think would have been much more interesting to go into than the kids generic desires two of which are carried over from the main series. I get that they are trying to stick to the status quo, but they have been teasing a more vulnerable side to mr. Fischoeder since like season 3 and i was kind of hoping we would see a bit more of that. It also made absolutely no sense why grover separated his witnesses from his victims sure he can be a shortsighted but he doesn't seem like he is that dumb. It would have made the most narrative sense for the belchers to have escaped due to mr. Fischoeder to purposefully goading his cousin into shooting him with the crossbow so that all the people he has been established to care about have a chance to get away since grover only has one bolt. It would have also added more tension to the final scene too, I mean we KNOW for a fact they are not going to kill off the belchers so the whole buried alive scene means very little, but killing of mr. Fischoeder would be possible. so the belchers and felix leaving him bleeding out on the floor while racing to get to a phone to call the police would have felt a lot more tense. I mean I get why they didn't do that, you couldn't really go back to having Calvin be so ambiguously concerned with the belchers after having him risk his own life for theirs so it would mess up the status quo, but I think the character deserves a "J Jonah Jameson won't give up peter parkers Identity." kind of moment at this point one that is surprising given his established character, but also makes sense when you look into what he truly seems to care about.
@@angrynoodletwentyfive6463 I think it was already clear that Calvin didn't really care all that much about Grover. He and Felix may fight more actively, but they still hang out often enough. Grover more or less just gets treated as part of the background, handling all the stuff that facilitates the other Fishoeders whims while largely being ignored otherwise.
I love that a side character was picked to be the villain
I actually forgot this character existed before the movie, so I predicted he'd be the real culprit, but it's crazy to think they took a minor character from an episode a few years back, and made him the main antagonist.
Same here.
i fell out of the show shortly after the attempted murder by fischoders brother and their gf and when this movie showed the cousin i had memories return and i said this man will be like his cousin and try to kill them for the money.
I didn’t even know Grover was in the show
Writers said their decision was inspired by Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, which was a good move.
@@FirestormInfinity is that so?
This was an incredibly clever move. I'm sure these episodes were produced in tandem with the movie, and they wanted to introduce the character before the film so it seems less like a cheat to invent this new character out of no where to be the movie's villain. Yet, they didn't want you to get too attached to the character by having him do just enough to establish they've had a relative the whole time. Even better, it was a cast semi-regular doing his voice, not a major, noticeable celebrity. Same guy does the voice of Courtney. And even though it is obvious enough he was the villain anyway, they did at least give you enough benefit of the doubt to believe Felix could be capable of such a thing. Remember the Wonder Wharf 2 parter? Even made a call back to his gold digging girlfriend.
These were made pretty far in advance to the movie. I'm sure they'd been planning for the movie for a while but I don't think Grover was just introduced to be the villian. Who knows though I could be wrong.
@@averyfera7156 While I'm not exactly sure when everything was planned, the movie was announced in 2017, with an initial release date of 2020. Now it was early enough a release in that year that it was probably on some level of completion before it had to be shelved with the lockdown. Now, I don't know how much planning happened before the movie's announcement date, but they would have had some level of concept of introducing a character to be a villain so he doesn't just show up out of nowhere. If anything, any initial script concept could have been a reason to add the character, and even if the movie took a different direction, we'd still have a character who would probably be used in future episodes in a similar role. Still, they didn't forcibly play him up before the movie, and they used a series regular as his voice actor, rather than an out of nowhere noticeable celebrity voice actor. So basically, even if they somehow changed the script during the initial stages, they could continue to use the character on the show without major alterations. Strangely enough, Bill Hader must've been busy with something because they couldn't even get him to reprise his role as Mickey for the movie.
@@mightyfilm Thats cool then that they introduced him so we knew him before he was shown as the villian. I always thought they just kind of picked out a random background character for the villian but it definitly makes more sense for them to make one for the movie
yea no… they didn’t start the movie until way after these episodes…
@@judas1523 his first appearance maybe, it was a season 9 episode, but his second appearance was in season 11 which was made in tandem with the movie along with season 12
I didn’t think he would be the villain until the I saw the movie in theaters pretty clever to not reveal it till later on in movie
And also a singer I like his song not that evil this is one of my favorite movie of this year it’s shame not that people went to see it in theaters I saw it was great
I watched the show for a while so I always wondered why Grover was in only 2 episodes I didn’t know it was leading up to the movie
sure It's easy to think of Calvin or Felix as villains with all the shady and illegal stuff they've been involved with, but at the end of the day, the Fischoder brothers are really just goofy morons
@@henryventura1919 I thought his singing voice wasn’t great.
@@funnyblog100 me too I didn’t know Grover could sing
Really like this character. He seemed to be a terrific foil to those kooky brothers, then we found out he was the most insane one of all. Of course, bearing the brunt of Felix and Calvin's shenanigans would make anyone insane.
I just realized he's the warden from super jail
A Bob’s Burgers Movie probably didn’t Need antagonist, let alone a surprise twist villain, but if they were gonna have one, I like that they just used This Guy. A minor character related to a tertiary character. Someone no one would go “oh, not Thaaaat guy. We all lovvved him.”
But I liked grover :(
@@Jest-Pumpkidding but did you love him? :(
@@BuddhaBot i did :( i related to him!!!! He was the lankey curly red haired cousin nobody liked, that's like me!!!! :(
@@Jest-Pumpkidding thaaaaat’s fair.
@@Jest-Pumpkidding There’s probably another lanky curly red haired cousin nobody likes who isn’t a murderer somewhere else, no need to worry about Groover he’s a lawyer and a cousin
I like how the belchers relationship with the fishoders. im so glad grover got such a huge role in the move. litterally one of the most underused characters in the show
What I find interesting is that he wasn’t even really necessary for any of these plotlines. I wonder if they had the idea for his character for the movie and then inserted him into some episodes as some small foreshadowing
Haha honestly I thought the cousin/lawyer was JUST created for the movie, making me instantly suspect him. I guess he WAS an established character, one you could easily see a motive for, while also being minor enough you could remove him and not lose anything
Same like the Simpsons
absolutely LOVE this dude after the movie! such a fun villain, he was awesome
Also the way felix and Calvin playfully torment him throughout the movie kind of reminds me of some of the stuff me and my cousin used to do to her twin Brother. We put dirt into his kool-aid once at a barbeque (we didn't actually let him Drink it after we put the dirt in.) we snuck into his room because he had refused to clean it got a bunch of his dirty laundry using those plastic grabber things and then dumped it on his head from the top of the staircase. For whatever reason when you have multiple sibling/cousins that are similar ages and you grow up together one cousin becomes the butt of every joke. I don't know why.
Simpsons: No, we can't use a fan favorite one-off character as the villain.
Bob's Burgers: Well, what about that random side character with almost three minutes of screen time in the show?
Bro if grover and side show bob ever meet then shit would go *down*
I'm literally just noticing Grover has the same voice actor as Courtney.
Wait really omg
@@SquishyGamers25 you might already out, Grover sounds like the Warden from superjail
@@marcesteban8694he is the warden from super jail
To think we were looking at a villain all this time.
So the entire Fischoeder family is just crazy then.
Voice of The Warden from Superjail!
ahhh it’s the warden!! love his voice sm
I cannot unhear his voice being The Wardens VA.
Am I the only one still holding out hope that they will finally do an episode where Helen is finally arrested
Then she and Grover can be in prison together lol
@@CaptainJZH ew
I have an idea for a Bob’s Burger episode: Calvin and Felix announce that Grover got out of jail, there he met this lady who turns out to be Helen and they are getting married. So Bob is groomsmen and will do the catering at the wedding, Linda will be bridesmaid, Tina will try to catch the bouquet and slow dance with Jimmy Jr, Gene will help Bob with the catering and wear the chef outfit that he wore for Tammy’s Bat Mitzvat, Louise will not do anything at the wedding, Calvin will be talking to Bob while catering, Felix will be groomsmen while his girlfriend Fanny is bridesmaid, Teddy and Mort will be guests at the wedding, and Andy and Ollie will bring the rings. During the wedding reception, Louise overhears Helen and Grover talking to themselves to kill Calvin and try to use Grover’s plan that he mentioned in the movie. With the help of Felix, Andy, and Ollie, Louise will try to stop Helen and Grover from replacing Wonder Wharf and killing Calvin.
Having now been convicted of a felony or two himself, Grover cannot benefit from the Fischoeder Trust, so killing Calvin becomes a moot point. Instead, Grover and Helen are both out to kill each other, with each of them being in the dark about the other's plans; Grover so he can inherit all of Helen's property, and Helen to cash in on a huge insurance settlement. @@mailiadan4313
yeah, that’s a good idea
So is it safe to assume that we're never going to see Grover again in the series unless there's an episode that takes place in a prison for some reason?
I mean Fanny returned and Mickey returned, so Im pretty sure Grover will as well
@@bda529 Yeah. Bob's Burgers characters who have went to prison has return to the show before. The difference is Mickey and Fanny committed minor crimes, while Grover committed murder, I doubt he's gonna be released anytime soon so the only bet of him returning in an future episode is that it needs to take place within a prison.
I would enjoy seeing him again in future episodes. they could always think of something I guess? I dunno how big a deal murder is for the Fischoeder family. I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw him in later episodes just on house arrest or w/ an ankle monitor or something. It would be neat to keep his character around somehow :]
Fanny and Felix have tried to end the Belchers before. How is that a minor crime.
@@rabbitearsguy Calvin said it was all Fanny's plan to kill them. Felix never got charged. But idk what felony Felix has been convicted of.
If this was Season 12 you should re watch the beginning sequence because it shows the floor caving in indicating what Grover was hiding this series gets better and better
Oh shi- I totally forgot about him in the show.
The dedication on continuity
You know, I always thought their last name was "Fishowner". Like, their family got rich from somehow having a legal claim to all the fishing rights in the area
Lol that's what Linda calls them
I never saw the episodes that included him in the show but I never did watch the whole show either so when I saw the movie I assumed he was one of the few characters I didn't meet before that apperance in the film. I was still pretty shocked when he was revealed to be the villain because he was just that... secondary as a character. Really good subversion 👌
Can I be honest? I’ve watched every episode and I swear I’ve never seen this man before I saw the movie. I suppose he was just forgettable. 🤷♀️
That was the main point of him being the villain
(comment contains film spoilers!!!) I really appreciate how they used Grover, a rarely used character, instead of creating some new obvious antagonist for the film
I love that they used a actual side character as the villain in the movie, Glad they did that it makes the movie even more original and exciting instead of just being a movie exclusive
Honestly I love him and his pink outfits I Hope he comes back in the show at some point maybe he uses his Legal knowledge to get himself released on a Technicality or something.
They need to do a Silence of the Lambs parody where they go to visit him in prison because he's the only lawyer they know or something lol
@@CaptainJZH honestly that's a great idea I can imagine something like that happening in the show.
The first outfit, the one that he’s wearing now and in the movie in the scene of the sinkhole and the news. The second one, gym clothes where he was in the gym, then went to the secret clubhouse in the Mole Hill of Wonder Wharf, went to the gym to escape from the bad thing and later gets arrested at the gym.
In any other movie based on a tv show they probably would’ve just made up a new character to be the bad guy and not a established one, gotta give them props for that.
@NintendoFan Yeah and Mojo Jojo was the villain in The Powerpuff Girls movie. Still movies like these don’t usually do that.
Bonus points for using a character we wouldn’t even remember
I remember watching the movie saying “I don’t think I’ve ever seen him in the show before” (I have horrible memory)
I literally forgot he was a character
Me too
“We both sat on your sandwich….BARE BOTTOMED!”
For Some Reason, Grover Fischoeder’s Voice Reminds Me Of Stephen Stotch From South Park
1:26Grover's laugh was so creepy and suspicious
He was in so little of the show I honestly forgot he even appeared before the movie.
I don’t understand I’ve seen these episodes before.
Why didn’t I notice Grover until the movie?
He's a very meek presence compared to Calvin and Felix.
Yes same I forgot about him too !! I saw the movie in theater and just thought he was new
You are a legend for uploading this
I kinda wished grover was in more episodes before the movie
Interesting how they keep all the fishoeder bois to a pink/lavendery pallet
That Was Before He Was The Film’s Main Antagonist
Wait! He was a character in the show? Shows how much I pay attention!
I dropped out of the show a couple of seasons ago.
I know that feeling
I've seen every episode and completely forgot he showed up pre movie
i do remember comment saying that 'a character who doesn't appear that much is often a villain.' and grover does remind me of some villains that are just like that such as syndrome from incredibles, bradford from ducktales and ozymandias from watchmen
bro is so fine it makes me physically ill
Not surprised the Warden is related to them
Whilst pre movie Grover's roles were minor, I do like that they used a pre-exsisting character rather than introduce a whole new character in the movie (bc everyone would instantly suspect it)
i hear grover voice as the warden from superjail
They’re both voiced by the same voice actor
@@mailiadan4313 i know thats why
I'm seriously curious about what snail wrestling is and why exactly it needs to be kept so hidden
They didn't know yet that he's a cold blooded killer and future enemy
Me and my friend went to watch the film together but he was only on season 2 so felix and Grover were just random people who showed up for him
I genuinely didn't know Grover existed before the movie but neat
Thank you so much for uploading this.
It was Grover all along!!!!!!!
Little fun fact I notice at the start of the movie was that if you recall what Grover’s silhouette looked like you can easily pin point WHO the culprit was in about the first few seconds (or minute) in the movie
Edit: okay in a more honest stance it was my second time watching it with my dad this time and that’s how I noticed I didn’t see it the first time .-.
Oh wow, was he seriously only in two episodes before the movie? I definitely thought he had more than that.
They made the main villan a character with less than 3 minutes of screen time through the whole series
I mainly remember him for snail betting
Ohhhhhh I remember this episode. It was soooo good
before Grover became the bad guy
when it comes to Grover after the movie I'm actually quite conflicted on his character as on the one hand I do genuinely feel quite Bad for him given the Fischoeder Brothers seem to have Treated him like crap his whole life but of course on the other side his actions are genuinely pretty evil.
like murdering someone just so he could frame his cousin and get control of the finances to build a theme park and also trying to murder a whole innocent family by burying them alive which is probably one of the worst ways you can die so yeah.
also I love his pink Tracksuit in the movie lol.
He’s different from his cousins like in having a slimmer build than Calvin and Felix. I love when they use shapes like that in shows and movies
I dropped out of the show a couple of seasons ago, so I never saw Grover before the movie.
I absolutely love grover! We need him in more episodes or just involved in more things. I hope he returns soon after he's done being in jail for god know how long.(if they dont add him in more episodes, I'm a start protesting lol.) He is literally the most gayest character I know( in my opinion) just look at his dancing in the movie.
When the movie started my friend said in the theater “wait…isn’t that their lawyer?” She immediately knew it was him. 😂
I could see Calvin and Felix still using Grover as their lawyer, even though he tried to kill them both
This is before the movie, grover hasn't done that yet
@@Jest-Pumpkidding Yeah, I know. That's what I was referring to
*Spoiler for the movie*
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I wonder if they had any idea Grover was going to be the murderer at this point when they made these episodes..
Bruh the polices officers might be so bad at there jobs if they didn't know that grover murdered cotton candy dan for 6 years and Louise a little kid actually found who did it do she is a better cop lol how embarrassing
at least we know a good career for her
I mean they didn't know he was murdered until they found the body in the sinkhole. Then they had all the evidence pointing to Calvin - his gun, eyewitnesses pointing to Calvin getting upset with Dan and threatening him, etc.
The only thing that pointed to Grover was the cufflink and bite mark, the latter of which they didn't know about because of Louise taking the weird tooth
@@CaptainJZH That's true in fact grover only did this because his cousin was bullying him for a long time so he wanted revenge and he did have a good plan even if it was killing innocent people until it got ruined and plus his mega park idea is literally the same thing as the wonder wharf Calvin built. I do still think that we will see grover in future episode cause I don't want him gone forever
In the movie, Grover was being pretty salty while the Belchers and Fischoeders are questioning him about why did he commit the murder
I feel like they did him dirty in the movie with the murder scene he can be evil but not evil enough to kill
And all this time the villain was right in front of us the whole time
Should have known what was coming when I realized he was also the Warden of Superjail.
Huh. I don't know why I thought he had more appearances than this
Low key wish Grover was in a few more episodes 😕 At least so ot was less obvious for the movie.
Tbh I was surprised by the sudden murder mystery plot line but yeah
Snail wrestling sounds pretty interesting
I love him
Is he the Warden?
The guy with the circle glasses is the killer im sure we all knew that in the fucking movie
Everytime Bob talks it sounds like he's drunk
Cotton Candy Dan was still out there
No he was killed six years prior to the film, and since this episode was at a similar time to the movie, Cotton Candy Dan has been six feet under for six years.
@@Goldenappleis4meh I know I meant his body was still out there, particularly a few feet away and many more below the restaurant
It’s weird that such a minor character played such an important role.
I have a theory Grover will be back for revenge in Season 13 this September
He's in prison tho
Nah I don’t think Bobs Burgers is the type of show that would break him out of jail, doesn’t fit the down to Earth tone that it’s going for.
@@theleftistvortex maybe as a season finale? if they were to bring him back i’m sure they would find a realistic way to do it. i do hope we see him again in future episodes
@@sammyiassume oh like the world wharf episode?
Cool, thanks!
Grover my beloved
I’m actually kinda mad it was Grover. It was fun having him as the straight man to the rest of them.
Yeah but come on every Fischoeder is f'ed up
Mmm thought they established him a little more...
The crack in the sidewalk nearly got more scenes lol
I always thought grover was exclusively in the movie
Imagine Grover and Helen being the perfect killer couple
Dude that would be interesting 🤔
I'm going to make a feature film called 'High School Shooting the Musical' in 2024
I didnt see him in the show but when I saw him in the movie I kinda new he was the villan
WARDEN OF SUPERJAILLL
Dude for like a solid week before i saw the movie this episode was played several times on FXX (i have spectrum) and i remember thinking 'this is gonna end up being important🤔'
What an unassuming man
1:48 "I like bananas, on cufflinks and hats"
What is so funny is if you were to tell me this guy was going to be the antagonist of the movie I would think you were completely full of shit. They did such a great job, he was the last person I ever expected to be an antagonist.