An anti-hero of one's own - Tim Adams
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How can an anti-hero teach us about the heroic--and sometimes,the unheroic--characteristics that shape a story's protagonist? From jealousy to self-doubt, Tim Adams challenges us to consider how anti-heroes reflect the very mortal weaknesses that can be found within all of us.
Lesson by Tim Adams, animation by Wood Goblin Studios.
This presents a very narrow view of the anti hero, for starters it presents only one scenario for an anti hero to rise in, and then allows only for one very restrictive model for the anti hero when in fact an anti hero is a much more general term than applied here and means simply a protagonist who does not posses the qualities we would usually expect of a hero. Sometimes they may well be downright villainous, for example Artemis Fowl in the Irish young adult novels of the same name.
+Árón de Siún I had the same thing in mind
Walter White
***** My childhood :) He was so cool, and so evil! The first one was also the first book I read in Irish.
+Árón de Siún tbf he did become much less evil as time went on
Libby Bollinger Granted, but he was never a traditional "hero", and he was also never the character described above.
This is more of a description of the "dystopian society" story.
+Kommunist Megalope exactly. heck I can think of quite a few anti-hero stories, that not only don't fallow this story at all, but actually have more in common with the heroes journey (The Walking Dead, The Last Of Us, Breaking Bad)
Yeah
He used they society thing as a example dude guy
Not really, he just used examples from such stories.
There are two definitions of the anti hero and I am not sure the video fits either one. The older definition is a hero who doesn't possess the things that make heroes good at being heroes like bravery, skill, luck, wisdom etc. This may or may not cause him to fail in his quest. The newer definition is a hero who doesn't have the aesthetics or motives that make a hero heroic. A hero may be a knight in shining armor then our anti hero will wear black armor. A hero fights to help people. An anti hero fights for money or fame. A hero believes in the power of friendship while the anti hero is a lone wolf.
+augmenautus rex thanks 10000% true mannn thanks for fixin my mood
+Marcus R. Your profile pic is the exact anti-hero i was thinking off. A guy who was bad to the bone to begin with and revels at chaos and anti-authoritarianism, who was then forced to conform to society through torture. He does not fight the system because the system is wrong or unjust but for the lulz.
Also, a hero that fights all willingly for the people, but is rejected by the very people he had decided to protect.
so... Deadpool...
+CrossBorderFire Oh yes, certainly. Joan of Arc is a great historical example. She fought for France, but the citizens betrayed her anyway. I believe Watchmen is a great fictional example. The actions and motives for the characters can be seen as villainous to others yet justified by good intentions or behaviors that can be seen as heroic.
This video presented an oddly limited view of the antihero, but I did enjoy reading comments and peoples' differing opinions of what makes an antihero. Antiheroes are more varied and complex than this vid would have you believe. (Why the focus on dystopian fiction?)
Broadly speaking, antiheroes are protagonists with qualities not typically thought of as "heroic". Maybe they are selfish or greedy, maybe their methods are especially ruthless and manipulative, or maybe their appearance is dark and imposing. Whatever it is, they're not your typical hero (a la Superman) but usually end up saving the day in one way or another, and muster up enough good deeds to be called a hero.
A good example is Frank Miller's Batman in DKR
think you are the one that have a narrow view about the topic. This is the original concept of antihero, your point of discussion is based on the concept of morality is an objective concept instead of a subjective concept.
Some good examples are Deadpool, Beetlejuice, Judge Dredd, Walter White, Agent 47 and Kratos, to name a few.
@@arieloliver3219 no, the original definition of the anti hero was not limited to dystopian future protagonists.
edit: also, you probably shouldn't copy and paste what you wrote in the replies of every comment you disagree with, as they are saying different things so your reply doesn't make sense.
Severus, where is thee
Once upon a time, I was a soldier. During that time, a boy once came to me and told me he knew what I as doing. He believed soldiers would fight monsters, terrifying creatures that prey upon humanity. I was speechless, not because a little boy would think that soldiers fight monsters, but because of the shock that I was the one that had to take this young boy's illusion and replace it with grim fact. With a heavy heart I told him that there are no monsters, only humans and that soldiers fight to protect people like him from people that would do them harm. I even begged his forgiveness and told him that I too wish that I would fight actual monsters rather than my fellow man.
Perfect story 10/10
What grade did you get when you submitted this intro for creative a writing class ?
@@sean5558 Believe it or not, it is the truth. Real life tops fiction every single day. I could not have made this up if I wanted to and I am trying to be a writer, I wish I could make stuff like that up at will.
I think they confused Tragic Hero to Anti-hero.
Yeah. Daniel Plaineview doesn't fit there, nor does Lou Bloom, or V. They're not Anti-heroes because they rebel, they're anti-heroes because we sympathize with them and they aren't conventionally good. Lou Bloom, for example, is a straight-up psychopath who coerces women into sex and has his partner killed for asking for a raise, but the story is still told from his perspective.
That plot-line he described was the exact plot of the Lego movie.
I was thinking the exact same thing
Except Emmet is'nt an anti-hero either. He's more of an everyman unlike Winston from 1984.
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Just reading everyone’s definition of an anti hero and then I found this 🤣🤣🤣
Satanic Cinnabun which ripped off the Matrix
To put things strait, the anti-hero is a much more edgier version of a real hero.
Renegade Shepard of Mass Effect series?
Kratos from God of War.
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Raymond Reddington from the Blacklist!
Luffy!!!
Light Yagami.
Jayy Gee light yagami did nothing wrong
Wtf! I just breathed his name under my breath while watching this and lo and behold!
Shinji Ikari is also probably on that list
I feel like he's more of a Villain Protagonist.
Jayy Gee RIGHT DEADASS FOREAL
While I agree with some of this, I do think that this didn't justify what a true Anti-Hero is. An anti-hero is someone who goes against the typical hero formula. They're normally selfish, dark, and pursue violence rather than avoid it. They care little for others, and don't really do something for the good of society. Again, that's not to say that this isn't accurate, but I just feel like they didn't explain fully what an anti-hero is.
I get confused :(
laprechaun12 think punisher (Frank Castle) from marvel
Lee Foxx This video only explains the path of the Anti-hero, not their intent, history nor character. I do agree with you though, but I can't seem to call ANY antihero that doesn't start out like this. Even normal heroes can be selfish, that's what the whole story is about. To become a selfless person, to care for the common good and to defeat evil even if that means sacrificing oneself.
I dunno about you, but to me Anakin Skywalker is the perfect antihero and he even starts out good. He simply failed the trials and became bad, but in the end he's still the one that saves the day
To put things even more straight -- an antihero is a realistic hero. And a hero is a romanticized version of a realistic hero.
I thought an anti-hero was the main character we're rooting for, or don't have to root for, that does things a villain would do. Ex: Walter White, he is the main character, but does villainous actions like murder and breaking the law. Some root for him and some don't.
+Nicholas Inzunza that is what a anti-hero is. this guy is just completely wrong
Haha, thanks
+Nicholas Inzunza
There's different definitions of an anti-hero but, generally, an anti-hero is a catch-all term for any main character that is fundamentally flawed or has unheroic traits. Generally, someone that doesn't fit the typical hero architype that the audience isn't necessarily supposed to identify with or idolize and the definition has changed time and time again throughout history.
So you're both completely right, they're all anti-heroes and they're both correct definitions. They're just different kinds of anti-heroes that approach being an atypical hero in much different ways.
+Jamie Miller +Nicholas Inzunza An anti-hero, like he says is someone who is flawed, but is not the "villain". A protagonist is the main character. They don't have to be good or bad.
You're right in saying that Walter White is an anti-hero, but the guy in the video isn't wrong. What you're describing is the protagonist.
Ace of Spades but an antihero is not the villain, just a person who is not necessarily a hero but still sometimes does good. The protagonist is just the main character, and while they don't have to be good or bad, the actual definition is the main character while a antihero does not have to be the protagonist.
Anti-heroes are okay, but my favorite are Villain Protagonists.
***** Well, no, they aren't.
***** Villain protagonists aren't heroes, at least not usually, ergo not an anti hero, by tour on definition. Protagonist does not mean hero. I suppose you could argue that the protagonist is the "hero of the story" in some philosophical sense, but they aren't, really. Sometimes they're opposed by people who are clearly the "good guy." Villain protagonists aren't even always shown in a sympathetic way. I suppose it's possible for an anti hero to be the main villain of the story, but generally speaking, no. In addition, anti heroes are generally a "lower rung" on the ladder of moral reprehensibleness.
I suppose under the very broadest definitions it would be true, but on a matter of scale, they are entirely different concepts.
***** Well, if you mean that every major character who isn't explicitly a traditional hero is a anti-hero, then yes, you'd be right, but you're not getting what an anti-hero _is_. Listen, I see where you're confused. The thing is, which you don't seem to get, is that the anti-hero is still the hero, they just go about things differently or sometimes for different reasons. Anti-heroes still has opponents who are villains. So are villains in your eyes...anti-anti-heroes? I'd recommend this for some types of anti-heroes, tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Analysis/AntiHero See, even if you're a complete sociopath who murders people, and you fight on the side of good, i.e. Deadpool etc, you're not the villain.
+Caleb Pelethite What about A Clockwork Orange's Alex? He's identified among the major literary anti-heroes. I get what you mean about the villain protagonist thing but that is quite simply semantics. A protagonist is a main character while an antagonist opposes a protagonist's progress. That is the absolute base of any story. You are correct in that some anti-heroes do not go about saving the day in the puritanical sense but the range at which they can stray from traditional heroism is quite infinite, therefore a villain protagonist, for terminology if nothing else, would still fall under that category.
"The best way to get an answer from the internet is to present an incorrect version of it"
Socrates 500 BC.
But internet didn't exist in 500 BC and Socrates never said that
But Gilgamesh, the very first hero of literature wasn't a hero, he was more an anti-hero
I had the same thought
+Lord RedSky True, but what of simply spoken heroes? Those passed down though stories told and not written. The ones who's names are whispered into the scared child's ear by a loving parent?
Can we be sure that was how the ancient Sumerian people would have seen him though? Perhaps our respective cultural values are so different we can't recognise Gilgamesh for what he's meant to be.
+disastergirl888 If Gilgamesh wasn't viewed as an anti-hero the story wouldn't make much sense. It starts of with him being a tyrant who puts himself before his subjects. He only seeks out monsters to fight to add to his own glory, and doesn't think of the consequences and the impact it will have on his people. Almost all of his actions are selfish until the very end of the story, when he realizes he has been a bad king and starts to put his people before himself. Why would the Sumerians craft a story about this kind of transformation if they didn't believe Gilgamesh's initial state was a bad one? They made the story to show how being selfish is wrong, and Gilgamesh embodied that selfishness.
Mr.RPGamer Fair enough, I've only read halfway through the Gilgamesh epic, I didn't know he reformed in the end. But more generally, a lot of ancient stories contain protagonists who are portrayed as noble and heroic who act in ways that modern readers would find highly dubious. Like Joshua in the Old Testament, who happily slaughters tens of thousands of people, or Odysseus, who expects his wife to be faithful to him for a dozen years yet is quite happy to have an affair with Circe while stranded on her island. Or, one of the most jarring, the way Lot is supposed to be a virtuous hero because he offers to throw his daughters out to be raped by an angry mob. The Gilgamesh story might well be an example of when modern and ancient morality agree (which isn't that surprising as we're all the same species after all) but there are plenty of times when they really don't.
Very interesting… however, I think the outcome of the anti-hero is far too limited then what you suggest here. It seems that while the hero is selfless, powerful and willing to take on challenges to promote positive change for the good of society. In contrast, the anti-hero is selfish, mostly powerless and aware that the system cannot be changed or that society is to apathetic/corrupt and so not worth saving. Therefore, the anti-hero is adopts the role of the rouge. Rather than saving others or society from the tyranny of the system, he focuses on his own gain. He is not a villain because his code will not allow him to harm the innocent but he is not above exploiting circumstances for his own advantage. To quote one of the most famous anti-heroes of all time, “Look your worshipfulness, let’s get one thing straight. I’m not in this for your revolution and I’m not in this for you. I expect to be well paid. I’m in it for the money.”
Example, tarboy. Look it up on youtube
+Rtkts
I think of Walter White as more of a villain protagonist... (who started out as an anti-hero).
That is a very nice quote. Did you come up with it?
Rtkts I don’t think that’s right. I think a protagonist doesn’t have to be a hero. The protagonist is the main character of your story by definition.
So what he believes in determines if he’s a villain or not. If he is a villain he can still be a protagonist. And anti hero I believe is the grey area In-Between.
Doing it for the good of your heart doesn’t make sense for an anti hero.
You just described Severus
Funny. I've always been taught (and read from reliable authors) that an anti-hero was simply a protagonist who lacked heroic traits. I didn't realize that he had to be a direct rip-off of the protagonists of 1984 and Fahrenheit 451.
Greatest anti-hero: Lelouch vi Britannia.
The Anit-Hero is one of my favorite character types. It tends to lend a darkness to a story, which I very much enjoy.
I don't like this because it only looks at antiheroes through the light of dystopian stories.
I'm surprised by the lack of deadpool mentions in the comments
Cuz there are mention better then him
You have so much to watch😂 best of luck in your journey
Where are all the deadpool comments? That man is the most anti-hero I have ever seen.
for me its Rorschach
but this was uploaded in 2012...so..
Rorschach is my favorite anti-hero 4ever, but the most anti-hero of all time is Lucifer
Damian Grey wrong, the most anti hero is Shrek
Littlecat3100 light yagami
Great points, but I think you've used too narrow a definition of antihero. I would define an antihero as someone who is a villain in theory, but a hero in practice. Whereas the hero may traditionally be kind and compassionate, the antihero may be more cruel and manipulative, and will probably use immoral means to achieve a moral end.
Even then antiheroes such as "Flashman" from George McDonald Fraser's books, can be just bad or crude people but who the reader still roots for yet not really have any goal or morals, other than in this case survival.
i knew there was something a bit off about this one
That sounds more like a "dark hero" - Batman, etc.
An Anti-Hero by etymological definition is anti-heroic, not opposite or opposing heroism.
An anti-villain would be someone evil, but incapable, a fool or jester seeking power but ultimately incapable of achieving their goals on their own. The "idiot-villain" is a popular one.
Hm, when you mention Batman, I think a dark hero could be someone who has gone through a lot, but has stayed good. That is, they could have gone bad, but they haven't. Batman is still fairly traditional good (admittedly, it's his alter ego who I'm about to cite, but his company donates to good causes and all that), even though his experiences could have turned him into a villain.
Anti-villains are an interesting one - it seems to me that they may often be very close to anti-heroes on the 'hero-to-villain' spectrum.
Anti-heroes can be anyone who's repulsive in some way as a hero. Being an asshat would be one way, or an idiot, or having some sort of terrible vice, or being automatically in a position that makes you threatening to the people the audience would automatically be rooting for. It's difficult to make this person likeable to the audience, but can be done. I think the best example of an anti-hero is Homer Simpson. The trick is to make the audience feel initially, that this is such a terrible guy, and then make them realize that at least in a few ways, he's pretty similar to themselves. Examples off the top of my head: Artemis Fowl, R the zombie, Wanda (Wanderer), or Dexter Morgan. Yeah, I'm into some pretty classy literature.
I always love the song demons. It reminds us of our self's acceptance the an anti-hero resides in all of us.
Two things: The first, heroes were not flawless. Heracles was easily enraged and mortal. Gilgamesh was a very strong, but very flawed character.
Second: this is more of a doomed to fail hero not an anti-hero and an anti-hero is one who does hero like things, but either not for the right reasons and/or not by righteous means.
Nope, old, demi-god heroes, or those that achieved imortality, usually had major character flaws that would be fatal for mere mortals. Many old stories are like guides of what to do and what not to do, but the action of the hero ends up without negative consequences, although many stories do show these almost immortal characters dying by their flaws (Achilles, Ajax...).
As an author I completely disagree with their definition of anti-hero.
HyperionEmpire How would you define the anti hero?
The simplest way I've seen anyone describe an antihero is "A good guy who lacks traditional heroic attributes." One of the best examples I can think of is the Red Hood from DC comics. He fights for the innocent and powerless, but does so through very unheroic tactics. He has no problems killing his enemies and attempts to control crime from the inside, becoming a mob boss in some stories. He does all this with good intentions, but those are most certainly not heroic attributes. This video would lead you to believe an antihero is simply someone in a dystopian society that realizes it, followed by a very cut and dry formula and often an ending where nothing changed from the begging.
while this definition of an anti-hero is technically true, I must say, I don't really agree with how it was described. I always thought of an anti-hero as a protagonist who is morally grey, and blurs the line of good and evil. Someone like Rick Grimes or Joel (from The Last Of Us) or Alex Mercer , would be examples of anti-heroes, and none of them fight an oppressive government. Rick and Joel fight for survival, not independence (hell you could almost argue that in many cases Rick Grimes is the one doing the oppressing) and Alex Mercer is basically a wild animal who fights whoever he damn well pleases, because he feels like it. Then you have a guy like Kratos, who is not physically week, or flawed at all, but he's an anti-hero because he's a HUGE DICK. While the definition in the video is technically correct, they are over simplifying what may be one of the most interesting concepts in fiction.
1:34 was that a Tron reference? Amazing
Well done lecture, but Macbeth is not a hero, nor the anti-hero. Macbeth IS our protagonist, he is our main character, but it is not him we root for. Macduff is our hero, he is the antagonist, but it is him who we want to win and he who does.
Technically, Macbeth is a tragic hero.
And we only start to root for Macduff because we watch Macbeth fall from grace, that being an important characteristic of tragic heroes.
WOW. This was a terrible video. An anti-hero is someone who does the right thing for the wrong reasons i.e. when the common good aligns with their selfish goals and are otherwise a neutral bystander. If they are the main character, then by the end of their journey, they frequently become conventional heroes. This video mixed two up two different concepts. They actually discussed the evolution of popular plot. Man vs. Nature used to be the most popular. Now it is man vs. self. Anti-heros do often face moral quandaries as part of their character development, but not always. If they are a side character, they stay the same and bring fun and edge to a work.
I can't believe my English teacher is making us take notes from this video for homework. Instead I'm doing research and listening to the comments like yours😂
+AppeasingPoet lol I know but it's not being graded (stupid common core tbh). But I'm gonna look stuff up anywys
+Jua T The comment section is doing some good for a change. Hope the teacher doesn't penalize you for not learning what she wants.
+Jua T haha same our teacher is making us do a packet on this X'D
+AppeasingPoet Nah, this is one of many definition of anti-heroes. Who says that there must be only one definition? Mr. Dictionary says no.
Anakin is an anti-hero. He's not the antagonist (at least not in the prequels). He struggles to accept the ways of the Jedi, shares his questions with an authority figure, and doesn't not have a very heroic ending.
Code Geass; Lelouch vi Britannia
+Natalie Tanner Lelouch is a Byronic hero.
In "THE BOYS" tv series on amazon/prime tv, the main character's kinda like a combination between the unlikely hero and the anti hero
This is just a type of antihero and it seems and a very modern type too that emerged with dystopian novels. Classically a hero, not the protagonist mind you, is a being that typically has immense confidence and strengths/combat abilities) to do great things, regardless of moral righteousness, which is why the heroes in ancient Greek myths and Beowulf aren't exactly the best when it comes to morals but are still considered heroes. This is also why Odysseus was considered an antihero in the classical sense as he used his wits and intelligence instead of strength or fighting skills. A classical example of a modern antihero in the classical sense is Spiderman due to his lack of confidence and humble origin. In modern society's perception, an antihero is often a person who does heroic deeds via not so heroic methods or a person who does heroic deeds not necessarily for a good reason. Thought what is heroic may be vague at times, in this sense, most of the Batfamily is comprised of antiheroes. Bakugo from My Hero Academia can also be considered an antihero in a modern sense due to his somewhat lack of morals, history of bullying, and his motive for wanting to become a Hero.
The theory that our heroes have gone from gods to flawed men through time is completely false. If it was true how do we explain superman? In truth there have always been gods and men serving as the archetypal heroes in our stories both in fiction and non fiction. For every Hercules there was a Orpheus. For every superman a batman. For every Jesus a Paul. Both gods and men have served as heroes through time and both have fought both internal and external struggles. Sure it can be said that Beowulf's true enemy was his arrogance but I would say the same of zues.
Seems to me very limited view of the anti hero based on YA literature's current fascination with the dystopian genre.
Not based on YA lit or modern examples but on a fairly standard and older definition. A lot of comments that I see posted here have a more recent kind of "hero" or main character in mind, sort of a mashup of the flawed hero, unlikely hero, and even some villain. Many readers just haven't encountered this definition and examples of it, that's all.
Joel from the last of us is a good example of an antihero
So is the one from Vinesauce.
Antigone is the most known ancient antiheroine of all time...
It's me, hi! I'm the problem, it's me!
at teatime, everybody agrees
wow this is so deep
i dont get it, help me. Write what you got from it
Kenny Bell i think its like, the heroes does not exist. They were given to us, to let us think that the great evul is outside our society. but the real evul is the one that build our society and keep us doing the things we do.
like the real monsters to fight are the ones that control all of us.
its suposed to be a wake up call from some conspiracy, i dont know. its not that clear of a message.
Daniel Grudzinski Aw. Thanks for the reply any way Daniel. Thanks
Kenny Bell Read 1984... or Animal Farm.
He mentions Harry Potter
Me: k
He mentions Luke Skywalker
Me: Ok
He mentions Hiccup
Me: OHMAHGAWDHEMENTIONEDHUCCUPTHATSSOCOOL!
The Hercules whitewashing is great. Please, actually lool at the events which happened after he got a wife. This is not Disney, guys.
Is Johnny English an antihero? ;)
+zsupersaiyan Good one
No, he's just an idiot.
@@noelic6744 No he isn't
Monkey D. Luffy is the best anti-hero in the history of human literature.
Doesn't explain it well
Umm, Macbeth was an anit-hero. Anti heroes aren't like that. They're usually bad people with a somewhat good point for his doings or just being the main character makes a bad guy the anti hero. Like all outlaw cowboy movies and stuff.
I mentioned this above, but Macbeth was a tragic hero. He didn't start out a bad person, but he became one by the end.
Really, really in inaccurate video and misleading title.
to me antiheros do not ever do something because its good or bad and does it for him or hers gain
I'd have to say that the immortal heroes of Greece were as flawed as can be.
i got that Fahrenheit 451 reference >3>
You mean you read that book? Good for you.
Rei Ayanami Thanks lol
Loved that book. My favourite dystopian novels are Farenheit 451; The Dispossessed by Ursula Le Guin, 1984 of course, but also Stepford Wives by Ira Levin which is much cleverer and deeper than it's usually credited.
Wiiiiiinnnnstooooooonnnnnnn nooooooooooo
+Adam Borison It hurts every single time somebody mentions him.
+Matias Alric As soon as I finished the book I wanted a sequel where the party was defeated
+Lightning Trollway No one has truly defeated the ruling elite. Such a book would come as a reflection of that victory
hercules is not really a flawless hero....... you should read more greek mythology
Tyler durden from fight club
Yagami Light
Light is Not an anti-hero. Anti-heroes can do villainous things but there's a limit. Light has no such limits, willing to murder scores of people, many of whom are innocent, for his own ideology. That's not an anti-hero, that's a villain. Yeah he thinks he has a good cause but so do most villains. Light is a villain, easy.
He started as one turned into a villian as time went on
How about calling him a anti-villain? A bad person with "heroic" intentions.
Jão Zin but even if he has "heroic" intent, he's still a villain, some of the greatest villains (although I can't think of an example) have good intent or are trying to help people, but there methods or ideology sometimes aren't in the right place.
I’d say he’s something called a “villain protagonist”. He started out as an antihero, but very quickly fell below the moral event horizon.
deadpool
Cool.
DeadCool.
Fat Vader, LoL.
Godzilla is an anti-hero.
I am always in awe of the content you create. An undiscovered theme, a telling narrative and amazing graphics!
There is so much to that can be conveyed with a story well told.
that was OUTSTANDING !!! I always loved anti-heroes stories because they are more relative to our society......many people must watch this and understand that they are the mentally cruel monsters.
If a picture is worth 1,000 words, then 4:11 minutes of an insightful and stunningly crafted message is priceless!
An anti hero is a hero who does things heroic, such as defeating the monsters, but also shows traits of a villain, such as cowardice, or manipulation, IMO
I don’t like how this story portrays ancient stories of mythology, as though we “progressed out of them.” We adapted and changed, but to say it is better or worse is not in our place. These ancient stories continue to have a place in our minds for a reason.
TED- Thank You for giving great insight on what is an Anti-hero and what systems we create do to our storytelling. This was very great for me to understand what an Anti-hero is and I would keep it in mind the next time I am planning to create a story of my own.
John Constantine from the vertigo comics series Hellblazer is my all time favorite anti-hero, he has cheated death time and again and still fights against the ways of the world, he possesses a great knowledge of magik, occultism, and the supernatural, but mostly defeating demons or any evil entities by being cunning.
This reminded me how much I enjoyed 1984. Perhaps I will read that one again.
This channel need to hit 100 M subscribers ..what a quality content
From the inspiring monomyth video giving the will to work and improve to the depressive video about weak and powerless antihero not being able to do a thing.
You've raised my hopes and dashed them quite expertly, youtube. Bravo.
This fits the description of Winston in 1984 VERY well.
Nineteen Eighty-Four is a book by George Orwell. It's actually spelled out, but I can understand why someone wouldn't want to write it all out.
Exactly. Thank you for clarifying. Seems like many are more familiar with the latter.
The best anti-hero is probably Zuko from the Last Airbender. It is considered one of the best redemption arc storyline
the hand of the robot on 2:30 is genius LMAO
That is a beautiful piece. Well done Tim Adams.
Anti-heroes don't have to be good. The more broad definition is "A protagonist who may not be considered a hero." That's a perfect example. The main character isn't some heroic person fighting off evil, but a lunatic with whom you still sympathies.
I'm so glad that you mentioned Hiccup of all the heroes many people could have thought of. Hiccup is great! HTTYD is too!!
I have one word for this video. Wow.
(It was incredible)
This is the best TED video I have ever seen!
I finished reading 1984 yesterday and it's awesome that they referenced it in this video. Also, this is my new favorite TedEd video!
Jeezus without background music, this is sorta scary
but awesome, learned something new today
Hero = lawful-good
Anti-Hero = chaotic-good
A lesson a famous Anti hero taught me
IF BEING A HERO MEAN YOU GOTTA WHETE SILLY OUTFITS AND SPARE PSYCOS THEN MAYBE I WASN'T MEANT TO BE ONE.
As I now see, the hero and the anti-hero can share the same beginning. The difference is where they end up. Whereas the hero returns home, the anti-hero is left in the wilderness or returns home as just another face in the crowd. The anti-hero is the hero that couldn't be.
Nocturnus Schwartstein nah that’s what this video says but it’s not really a good example of the term. When you think Antihero, think about characters like Punisher, V in V for Vendetta, the majority of Watchmen characters, and things like that. Basically, people whose methods or intentions are not heroic, who end up contributing (or trying to contribute) to an ultimately good cause.
I would argue that Winston from 1984 is an ‘Everyman’ hero who just happened to fail in his heroic quest, rather than an antihero. All of his intentions are good, and he never does anything morally questionable.
I love the visual references to Plato's Allegory Of The Cave. It's an interesting comparison; The heroic journey of the anti-hero as presented mirrors the narrative of the allegory.
Almost died at the Tron references!
Yeah you're right I really didn't understand what they were getting at with the talk of those characters. Didn't really help that they talk about Othello, Beowulf and Hiccup in the same grouping especially because I can't help but consider Othello and Beowulf to be anti-heroes in some degree, so I confused the grouping as them talking about all three as if they were anti-heroes.
VIllains can be main characters. If Macbeth's nemesis is the hero, the great savior of the story, then Macbeth is the villain. We use the word 'protagonist' for a reason: because you don't have to be defined by anything to fill that slot. It's all about point of view.
Thanks for crushing my hopes
What about the anti-villain though? The one who is at least portrayed as a heartless villain and murderer, but all he did was for good or even noble reasons, usually knowing really well what they are doing. Or the other version of the anti-villain is simply a villain following(kinda, otherwise he wouldn't have the heroes against him) the rules, fair fighter and has great charisma.
What do you think is better? I really like the 1st portrayal of this concept.
Probably the best portrayal(that i know of) of anti-villain was Ozymandias in Watchmen.
Antihero definition fits nearly perfectly for Hickup
A little something from Megaman X,
Zero: Why are you friends with me?
X: Because your a good person Zero-senpai!
Zero:I'm not a hero X...
X:So your claiming your an anti-hero?
Zero:Nvm.
(Technically, Zero is.)
The best one so far!
Fui só eu que simplesmente amou o fato do soluço ser citado mesmo que por um segundo?
This story just fits so well with 1984 omg
The description of the anti-hero is very good in this video, but isn't universal. For example Deadpool. He is anti-hero. He kills for nothing. But he cannot be put in this description.
Seconding Sebastian Swanson's notion...
Forever and ever, an admirer till the end...
This animation is awesome.
I think that's more of a reluctant hero. To me the anti hero is one that does things for themselves. Not for good, not for bad, but for themselves and their desires. If they do end up doing something good it isn't because they wanted to, it's just because that was what so happened to be in their way or what was the quickest way to their goal.
They don't have to look like a hero, as that is not part of the attributes required. Following the steps of the hero's journey, the anti-hero usually doesn't have a mentor, fails to return or fails at the crisis. A hero generally leaves their home for their journey, while the anti-hero generally stays, departing instead of returning. The line between the two is a bit more thin now than it used to be, the hero's becoming ever closer to the anti-hero, and even becoming the anti-hero in some cases.
2:30 and pause, don't ask questions