Konami should never listen to the Yu-Gi-Oh community... | Rednu Reacts
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I'm pretty sure Konami hates the Western player base and tries to gouge them for any penny they can. See the rarity jumps from OCG to TCG.
The problem with western players is that they complain A LOT, and even with thar much complain they doesn't spend that much to the game than western players.
This is not just yugioh problem, it's in every game.
if they merged western players with Asian players under the same devision, you get cultural clash.
People in ocg are cringing on those ban maxx c taglines already.
@@r3zafulAnd Konamis stance had always been: "Fuck you,gaijin,gimme money!"
Of course they do,they think of the tcg community as a bunch of dicksucking sheep who don’t bother to change anything about the game’s actual problems. Yugioh is unbalanced card game since the very beginning,most of the tcg community are dumb morons who will continue to buy the cards,even thou there were multiple times we have seen Konami pushing a middle finger down their asses and still are fine with it. And Konami being a terrible company,using terrible practices that should be illegal but are not. And they will continue to earn more money. Monkeyfighttcg made a compilation of 3 videos,pointing out problems the game,the community and Konami has.
We really need a fun, fan made format, that has deck building restrictions to make the game a little more chill.
My idea: 10 Vanillas, 10 Non-vanillas, 10 Traps, 10 Spells, 3 Extra Deck monsters
Or something along those lines.
I think what his video showed is the amount of elitism that plagues the Yugioh community as a whole. Bunch of elitists saying "there is only one right way to play Yugioh" or "if you play this or that format, you are bad bla bla". Yugioh's demography is old. If the game doesn't attract zoomers or even kids, then the current demography will age out at some point and the game will die cuz of pathetic gatekeeping by basement dwellers.
38:41 God, I miss battle packs. I would love for them to bring it back. Either in Master Duel or as a potential Battle Pack 4. Or just literally any support for sealed draft. It’s such a fun and overlooked game mode. Wish more people cared about it, honestly.
a funny thing we do on locals was play but with duelist kingdom rules, 2000 of life point, no dirrect attack, u can just set or play one magic card per turn, if the monster is desroy by effect or ur opponent you lost the half of their attack as life point, and aloot of other thing, was so funny some deck do nothing
Same can be said with people playing Commander with MTG. A lot of casual players get roped into trying commander out then they get a precon and fight tryhards with 8 to Cedh level decks lol. That's why there's a lot of drama with "power level talk." YGO should have a casual format where people can group up and play. I played the game till the pendulum stuff and quit there. After that I just watched stuff and noticed that it became a solitaire game like most commander decks that try and pull off combos.
I'm sure there are sweaty Cmdr players and enviros, but I've seen plenty of casual circles at my LGS. Yugioh has a harder time with smaller player base and only one format.
Yeah, that's the sad part. No one at my LGS plays any other YGO format and there's only a few of them during the weekly tourneys. It's sad, it'd be cool to get back to YGO pre-pendulum.
on my locals i talk to the owner its a tiny local just 5 tables, but we start to do local unuofical tournaments withother rules than meta, for example and the most recently was a tournament but with duelinst kingdon rules, 2000 life point, you can only use one monster for attack per turn, only one magic or trap can be set, if a monster is dertoy by a effect the owner of that monster loss the half of the attak point as life point, if u dont have monster on the field and u cant summon one on set, attak, or wahterver u loss the duel, and aloot more ai thing are like 20 rules for that format, plus u can use whaterver card u want, meta deck vs novices, and meta deck have struggles with just hte restriction of trap/spell cards@@LaRenuille
commander was fan made, yugioh players can do the same, its literally a skill issue
I'm here to bring the obligatory "Ban Maxx C" comment.
True maxx c should be banned but maxx c is the reason y we have a big pool of decks to use and y the banlist doesn’t throw thirty cards to semi limit, limit , or ban
plz ban this shit of Master duel plz plz i just hate that
like my lovly kash arise-heart ban on tcg@@Elitez42
obligatory Maxx C good counter
Be honest. This is the yugioh equivalent to ReleaseTheSnyderCut at thus point
I just come across A greatest take from a non-yugioh player but 1 TCG lover in general. That is Yugioh is ACTUALLY in top 5 most "Fun" and "Casual" TCG ever, but not in the Top 5 "Competitive" TCG which have MTG, Pokemon.. where balanced and decision making comes first. If we are actually looking the Yugioh as the only TCG that you can do "All The Things In The World" your ways, then It's actually pretty fun!! and that plus Edison/ Rush Duel and all other draft formats with friends 🎉 Casual and Fun are subjective ("Why is FTK bad but Exodia is cool?" dilemma) but if we're looking at that way I think it's most fair for Yugioh since they don't have resource for "fair" card level to measure like mana anyway ❤
P.S: It's from "Maindeck" youtube top 5 videos btw
I'm gonna heavily disagree with them on the basis that a casual way to play the game barely exists at all. The most accessible ways to play any form of yugioh are Master Duel and Duel Links, and both of them are actually some of the worst yugioh sims ever. Fan projects like YGOPro and the Duel Nexus are only marginally better and only decent experiences on pc. You physically CAN'T play the game casually unless you go out of your way to ignore literally every relatively popular element of the game, and Konami basically doesn't print structures. Yugioh right now lives and dies by its competitive format.
One of yugioh's biggest problems with being a casual game is card availability. I can go online on my phone right now and order magic cards from 2005 for cents on the copy, maybe a dollar or two if it's still a good card in a competitive format (Tolarian Academy comes to mind). If you wanna build a Horus deck right now you're looking at an EASY 20-40 dollars PER COPY of your main cards. I could only find LV8 for about $36-40/copy. If you want these older cards to play formats like GOAT or Edison, you're paying through the nose for those pre-errata copies. On top of that, I can't find a SINGLE THING about when or even IF the west is getting Rush Duel (Even though it would make the game infinitely more approachable here). The most I can find is that Konami US doesn't want Rush Duel sales to make Speed Duel less profitable. And Konami doesn't even acknowledge alt formats to begin with but they'll def say they do because of Traditional which to my knowledge is universally touted as the WORST format to play by far.
Like yeah, if you have a buddy and an old deck or two laying around the game can be very fun. But all the pieces for that to work simply don't exist for new people who want to get into the game.
@@WolfPackAlpha-sn2sw Thanks for your reply and I can tell by your detailed explanation of both games and I think you're right ^^ However, we can obviously tell the pricing discussion is mostly upon the competitive side and "new release" more often than not (I've heard that the Commander format staples in MTG is still as expensive). To be fair, I understand the MTG format rotation makes Oldest card the strongest while being cheap through time but Yugioh have powercreep so the latest is the strongest and most expensive. it's actually the same in Yugioh that We can actually buy stuffs like Mirror force and Raigeki (Even reprinted Yata Garasu, Pot of greed- aka banned) which is nightmare in Goat for relatively cheaper than back in those days right 😂 It's just format different for 2 games and i get that.
However, My "Casual" Yugioh take is more on the side of the game mechanic rather than how to entry Modern Yugioh actually, Yugioh is becoming more of an RTS (which it also has warning playerbase for its complexity) with knowing the "Build Order/ The Strategy" before coming into to it so there's no more "pick up and play" like Rush Duel or Edison.. My fun and enjoying part about Yugioh is Being The One TCG to allow you to do "anything" within the small rules and enormous card pool (Winning with Exodia, Burn, Decking Out, Zone Lock Control,...). Yes, we hate when we're on the receiving end but from the perspective of the one is playing Exodia, it was still "casual and fun" like when we were a kid and first saw Exodia. New Annoying win conditions doesn't have its anime nostalgia so we just hate it but I get that. Some say we're playing Solitaire for 2 but isnt that Casual and Fun in Solitaire as well 😂 It's complexity and niche playing style pushes people away like many RTS nowadays but if you're staying for the enjoyment of inventing "your own Exodia" while not solely focusing on the losing-winning of competitive, you might enjoy Yugioh... in a way (It's definitely NOT COMPETITIVE because there's NO Balance or ways to measure power level of cards like the mana system- Raigeki vs Lightning Storm?)
@@duyknguyen magic is expensive i sell 4 cards to magic 750 buck, was just crazy, i a top deck from yugi for 175buck,
So, this isn't true for the most recent seasons, but the old Vanguard show did a great job bridging the anime fantasy and competitive reality. It'd be cool if YGO could find a better balance between magical hijinks and, say, having characters talk about their decks before tournaments to counter their rivals... Even Pokemon is coming out with a more grounded anime made to actually *get kids to in-person events*.
And I wish Konami engineered the game to play more like intermediate+ at the ground level. Like, you can get into YGO at the ground floor and not even have a consistent extra deck summon engine, even though that's the minimum requirement for pretty much any deck. Xyz and Link monsters are initially solutions to that but the breadth of their effects/summon conditions get narrower and narrower. So depending on if you get in on YGO during the start or stride of a new summoning mechanic, that really changes how you access the game (I ran into this problem in high school, where none of the packs you could pull in stores provided common, generic Xyz).
the best imo is the mtg manga, super grounded and actually playing proper cards and strategies albeit old school boomer shit
I haven't watched overdress since I kinda sit in the premium is far more fun than standard camp but as I understand it the anime is far more character heavy now but the fights are still rules accurate just not put in the centre stage or is this wrong?
@@michaelkeha Overdress is an okay show, but you BARELY get to see gameplay. The card game is just an excuse for the characters to hang together and have conflicts. You'll get to see maybe 2 turns of a fight in an episode, and I don't think it's incorporated THAT well into the drama.
@@cantrip7 well that's a pity but not that surprising given overdress itself being not that mechanically rich compared to prior eras maybe this new show will do a better job balancing
Speaking of Duel Kingdom... Like why did they not make official Yu Gi Oh in D&D formats...
Also no they have done that before too. They actually makes Summoner type YGO as in Duelist of the Rose.
This is amazing for sure.
Now? Yeah its just repeating the old duel now...
Dont mind the game dying for how much it gets bastardised when it comes to the bs designed that holds no grounds on balance but selling, the card quality stock, the short printing of specfic cards and the disconection from the community that Konami makes no effort to fix.
I don't mind it either. Wouldn't mind it if they improved it tho too.
I think it’d be great if instead of new mainline Yugioh Animes they made a Yugioh anthology anime where each short season is the Lore of an archetype.
Like each short season could be a different archetype like: Duel Terminal, World Legacy, Albaz, Visas Starfrost etc.
I think that’d be a great way to get new players into the game and get old players interested in new cards by having them invested in the characters like Albaz and Ecclesia because the Albaz lore is actually really good.
And it makes current fans who already love these characters and archetypes happy too.
hey visas starfrost is the reason i came back to yugi XD, all the lore is just so good, i make my new deck exactly for that
not to mention they ban literally every card
There are so many things you could do to make the game better for more people, while also keeping the format for the ones who like it the way it is. The thing they don't understand is that they would make more money.
One thing I fully disagree with is the both sides have to give a little the casuals literally have nothing left to give outside playing with friends on their kitcken counters literally every event from locals up is aimed at competitive players who actviely keep the community from growing and the product is aimed at two groups competitive players and crazy collecters casuals get fucking nothing
I'm convinced the majority of the playerbase has nothing better to do with their lives.
Yeah I guess a few yugitubers make up the majority of the playerbase lmao
It doesn't matter how they market the game if they offer no easy way for prospective new players to jump in and have fun. "Grab a box and play with friends" doesn't work if you have no friends IRL willing to try some niche game. It's ridiculous that Master Duel doesn't provide good ways to play with standalone archetypes without having to fit in tons of generic meta bullshit that take over and uniformize the games.
As far as a casual mode giving rewards, there is a paradox there. Grindiness breeds optimization. If you reward players for casual PVP, you will inherently make people become sweaty tryhards to attain rewards faster and undermine the point. So the only way to make grinding not stressful for casuals would be to let them grind against bots and maybe have casual PVP not yield rewards so it doesn't become tainted.
How can you taint what's not there? Nobody plays casual. Even if people play casual that way, nothing will be lost because nobody plays casual.
ocg yugitubers > tcg yugitubers
So basically the guy being reacted is gatekeeping yugioh right from the start, makes a good point about how Konami don't try new forms of catch audience, like with the sky striker manga for example in 33:15, THEN CONTINUES TO GATEKEEP YGO EVEN HARDER!
I didn't even know they actually made official guides that explain the lore. Now I understand why archetypes like Visas and Albaz are popular, but the TCG is unofficially stuck reading fanslations or piecing art together like cavemen to tell the story. Konami is a bunch of assholes, borderline xenophobic
"modern yugioh is more complex"
no, it's actually not... because of how modern yugioh deck building goes, modern yugioh actually less complex, there is almost no decision making within the deck because the deck is build to to be as consistence as possible which means everything is predetermine... all you need is to remember the order to play the card...
meanwhile old school yugioh while the card is a lot simpler, the deck have a lot of decision making because you need to make decision base on the current playing field... you win or lose game base on your decision making skills alone.
you are wrong with that, the true it is more complex, complex the definition on the dictionary is "consisting of many different and connected parts", any modern deck its alooot more complex than old deck, decision dont bring complexity, yugioh modern on promedy play 10 to 20 cards per turn, old yugi maybe 5, sometimes that cards are not conected betwen, then yes modern yugi is alooot more complex than old for definition, it is more linear also yes but linearity and complex have nothing on common, for example a clock with 30k parts cogs, springs etc etc its ultra complex but the funtion is linear it is tell you the hour, a digital watch are made for aloot less part but have the same funtion then digital clock are less complex
Modern Yugioh's skill floor is always increasing. It's not as bad as when they kept releasing new summoning mechanics, but it gets worse. There is not a lot of depth in playing though, I agree.
@@jorgecarvajal5385 just because the deck contain more parts it doesnt means the game is more complex as you, yourself said, modern yugioh is linear, therefore it's not a complex game..
it's like comparing minecraft with go... minecraft contain a lot of parts, but the gameplay is simple, you break stuff, you build stuff.. go contain very few parts, one board and 2 set of stones.. but the game is infinitely more complex then minecraft...
another example is cooking, anyone that can cook will pretty much tell you the same thing, the simpler the dish is, the harder it is to cook well.. frying an egg for example, it is very difficult for most people to fry an egg well but it only have one part, the egg itself.. meanwhile baking a cake on the other hand is deceptively simple as most cake recipe is design to give you the same cake as long as you follow it to the thee but a cake contain a lot of parts... so frying an egg is more complex than baking a cake.
more parts doesnt always means more complex.
are you dumb XD? its complex is exactly what i say, is took for the dictionary, some complex things are easy, some simple things are pretty hard to do, for a example, BINARI, its ultra simple just 2 elements, the alpahabet are alooot more complex wiht 26 elements plus gramatical rules but is easy the alphabet, and binari for us are hard,
more elements is more complex is the definition plz plz try to improve ur RC, probably thats why your dont understand yugi
@@jorgecarvajal5385 obtuse overly long mechanics isn't complexity or depth look at chess the mechanics are incredibly simple but the depth and complexity behind it are astounding
15:18 actually, not true at all. Me and my buds are all hard core Yu-Gi-Oh players (regional/ycs topping players, locals every week, for basically a decade or more, and yet we have all quite Yu-Gi-Oh and moved on to various card games, more than a year ago, (digimon and one piece myself)
Is this because the game stopped being fun or because you got priced out?
@@michaelkehadepending. My bud nick, quit because of the writing on the wall, that we were looking at a 1+ straight years or tier 0 formats, (from looking at the ocg format, to see what we had coming our way), and he can't stand tier 0 formats, he is now playing magic (and is getting into one piece). My bud mike, got priced out, he is now playing flesh and blood (and is getting into one piece). Josh was priced out, (though unlike mike, it wasn't that he couldn't afford it, it's just that he limits himself to a max price cap, so he does have the cash to afford, but simple limits himself.), he is now doing digimon (and is getting into one piece). Then there's myself, I quit for so many reasons, lack of decks I enjoyed, lack of enjoyable formats for a while, none stop horrible sets, prices of decks being consistently way higher than I'm willing to spend, etc. etc. and as stated in previous comment, I now play digimon and one piece.
@@projectvayne39 so outside one it's mostly cost which is really the only way you can chase off most hardcores
@@michaelkeha well, price for two. Enjoyability for two
I think yuguioh tcg players are in that position of just playing the game becasue being used to it they don't even know what they want because i've heard the same player saying i hate floatgates ban all floatgates and also they play King calamities xd is like they don't even notice its the freaking same?
The game needs to change and everyone knows it
Been playing master duel, thought about getting cards. Went to comics and games shop to see if I could find cards. They hit me with the black panther meme “We don’t do that here.” 😅 basically homie said they don’t sell so there’s no demand for them there. They did have a BUNCH of magic cards. Basically, what it comes down to that yugioh has its audience and only caters to that audience…..children mostly. Because where they DO sell is GameStop and near the check out line in target/Walmart…next to the candy where kids will bug tf out of their parents to get them…like candy 😅 still, me personally I’m having fun with the novelty of it.
That's what Konami thinks, they think kids buy these cards, but it's dudes in their mid 20s plus who buy and play this game.
I came here to see mommy fight daddy, now I’m sad
I will never fight Paul he's too cool
who is yugioh for? the japanese.
Yugioh needs a non-card based video game. Maybe a narrative driven RPG or something to drive interest in buying and owning cards for the sake of owning cards.
Konami hire me. We can make that Pokemon money while the millennials still have disposable income.
They tried in the past, but not much success. Yugioh has a racing game, a mario party clone, and a strategy game
They had a bunch of those a long time ago, but they started underperforming compared to the duel simulators
I want to see "Rush Duels" in full TCG form or at least added the too master duel if it keeps up with the OCG releases and accurately translated the effect text watch how much money that will generate from Old school Yu-Gi-Oh players that play "Cardfight Vanguard" now
I don't think they will make the swap back since Vanguard has such a in many ways unbreakable gameplay loop that is hard to ruin where as rush duel is starting to show some micro cracks that it's going to fall apart
@@michaelkeha really I haven't been keeping up with the release of rush duels card's can you point me in the direction of what cussing issues this is really intriguing because what makes Yu-Gi-Oh suck for me is you stop the opponent from playing if rush duels are doing that than it's probably going to die
@@Omega_1306 Now as I understand it from people who have been keeping up the beginnings of power creep and resilience to interaction are creeping in so if that keeps up you are going to get what happened in yugioh which is everyone just furiously plays past each other without interacting anymore
@@michaelkeha yikes so not the trades were familiar with damn seems like vanguard is the last bastion of good gameplay in the TCG who can't remember 150+ keywords in MTG
@@Omega_1306 kind of so Rush if it doesn't really push hard into this then it's fine and vanguard their standard is bit of an odd duck but premium is pretty fucking hype
Did u quit
"Manga doesn't do well in the west."
Zelda mangas: 👁👄👁
Manga actually does really well in the west. It's massacred American comics
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My absolute biggest complaint with MD is having to unlock sets to get packs. I would be willingly to log-in and play a few rounds if I could build a deck I wanna build. But no, I have to get the generic pack and hope I get a set with the archetype I wanna play. And then that issue is made SO. MUCH. WORSE. By Konami's unwillingness to formally acknowledge alternate formats. I GUARANTEE if they acknowledged GOAT and Edison and printed sets for those formats and made brackets for them at tournaments the game would be SO much more popular. If they even ignore the community made formats and make one that encompasses a specific era focused on a summoning mechanic the game would be MUCH easier to grow especially in the west. Konami needs to force the western division to be more proactive bc at this rate they WILL kill this game in the west.
out of ALL the problems with the game, that's your biggest complaint about MD ??? just craft an SR from the pack you want like a normal person and you'll unlock the pack, 30 SR materials really isnt that much, why would you open the master pack and hope you'll get the pack you want, you're wasting so many gems
Bro? you don't know you could unlock any pack by crafting SR from that pack? really?
@@jps_user20 I’m aware I can do that, it just doesn’t sit well with me because I frankly don’t have time to play a whole lot of MD (and prefer the TCG anyways) so GETTING packs to begin with is a serious pain in the ass. I can barely get any SR material because I can’t build a functioning and decently competitive deck from the start so I’m losing pretty almost all of my online games and simply not getting enough out of it and it makes me unreasonably frustrated because the solo stuff for whatever reason is egregiously difficult to me (I absolutely hate a lot of the decks it has you use and just can’t get my head around them). I thoroughly enjoy yugioh for the exact reasons a lot of people don’t. I love the current speed of the game, how mechanical and detail oriented the game gets with certain match ups. I play yugioh because the current state of the game is fun to me. Maxx “C” is a war crime, but it’s tolerable enough imo. My personal issues with MD would be completely solved if I could just unlock sets permanently without thinking about crafting it, and imo it would be infinitely more rewarding. I know a couple (my brother for example) who feels the same way. We enjoy the game, but the way you get cards is annoying as all hell. I’m very sure my take on the game isn’t the most popular but oh well lol hope that makes sense.
@@mornhiver See my other reply. But TLDR: I can barely get SR bc of how the game wants me to progress relative to my skill level with the game and it’s excessively frustrating because “get good” isn’t going to actually help me when my deck simply can’t compete yet bc I’m not getting enough out of the rewards system. Very frustrating. I’m TRYING to craft the sets I want, but it’s just for whatever reason SO hard for me to do it.
@@WolfPackAlpha-sn2sw The free duel pass give you dust ( losing duel count as a progress but not surrender ), craft anything that belong to a deck that you want, open the pack ( 6K gem is the mid cost for a complete deck ) commit to the deck for a month. Rinse and repeat
This is just a "i don't want to" problem, and not the game's problem
Play asian English lmao