Warning axing Albion and Bulwark would immensely impact Royal Marines
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- A former head of the Royal Marines has warned the Government's rumoured plans to retire HMS Albion and her sister ship HMS Bulwark would create "real difficulty" for the corps.
Major General Buster Howes, a former commandant general of the Royal Marines, told the Sitrep podcast the move to axe the ships was "about money".
"This is not about clear-sighted logic," he said.
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It doesn’t take a military strategist to know that this is not the time to lose these ships.
At least you have ships. In Germany we don’t even have guns or helmets
Heading to war and political idiots in charge! God help us!!
@@yurinator6380 Stop starting World Wars then.. haha jokes.
You mean terrorists??@@0Zolrender0
This gentleman is absolutely correct. Politicians are all about cutting costs. This " fighting a bean counters war." Was exactly what defence secretary MacNamara tried during the Vietnam War. The result was an immense cost in lives, finances and national identity. The state of the British forces in the 1970- 80's a shoe string economy. That the Falkland conflict was a success was down to excellent leadership and personnel in the military. Along with some bad decisions made by the Argentine Command structure. Without sage direction from William Whitelaw. A politician with actual combat experience. (A WW2 tank commander. An officer in the tanks.. D Day onwards.)The politicians could have totally derailed the efforts of Major General Jeremy Moore, Brigadier's Julian Thompson and Tony Wilson. The Naval command of Admiral "Sandy" Woodwarrd and Commander Mike Clapp. If the RN had had aircraft like Phantoms and Buccaneers available on suitable aircraft carrier's. There would not have been any conflict. Indeed the stance of the British government at the time. Indicated a lack of interest in the future of the Falklands. The House of Lord's voting not to allow the Islanders British passports for example! When Argentina did some " Saber rattling" during the Callahan Primiership. A destroyer was sent down to the Falklands and the situation was resolved. Funny how it worked out under Maggie Thatchers time at Nummber Ten. Bottom line is that preparing for anything seems to influence it not happening. Karma watches and listens! Just like potential adversaries.
i'd argue that fighting war is "all about cutting costs".... i think so would much of the US marine corp..... anyway this is proven right by artilary shells vs rockets, glide bombs vs cruise missiles
Cutting costs while increasing costs for the average citizen.
I remember a government spokes person stating that the British Government didn't envisage being at war away from our shores without US carrier support. On the strength of that Ark Royal was scrapped. 18 months later we found ourselves fighting a conflict in the South Atlantic 7½ thousand miles away.
Politicians are the problem not the solution.
It would make sense to replace them with three Juan Carlos 1 class helicopter landing docks a then retire Albion and Bulwark into mothball status.
Bullies only pick on those they perceive to be weak.
It's cheaper to spend £60bn on defence than £100bn on mobilisation, ammunition, fuel and lost equipment.
Our Government, and the MOD simply must keep the Albion Class LPD’s because the Royal Marines need these ships in order to do their jobs in this very dangerous world we live in today.
How much warning does the Govt. need to prioritise spending on defense, suspend rwanda policy just get on to a war footing plan immediately!! The world is now a very dangerous place, democracy is under threat, bring in national sevice with good pay and training, Stop navel gazing and show some leadership, 4 typhoons into Yemen won't achieve much long term. Get the Navy and the Marines up to full strength ASAP, and the Army.Stop thinking about your own political survival, think about the survival of Britain !
Decisions are now made by accountants
Its to do with civil servants in Whitehall they run everything MPS have no say or power
war has always costed money... so the decisions have always been based on money... oh gee imagine if all military equipment was free (we'd probabally already be extinct), damn money
@@jameskellard5075 the Tories aren't even accountants they're just clowns.
Unfortunately we have a hopeless defence secretary, shapps is a pure politician who couldn't care less about our military capability he just says what the treasury wants to hear but he is just one of many failures to hold the job, its probably time to remove politicians from the roles and have experts to decide what we need to defend ourselves against a long list of foes
Slight correction - we have a hopeless and useless government.
Ben Wallis knew his onions
Totally agree @@LeeTillbury
Agree completely. The defence of the country is far too serious a matter to allow politicians, of whatever ilk, anywhere near. It takes years for military personnel to attain senior rank as well as a fair degree of political acumen to boot. So its absolutely ludicrous that someone like Shapps with zero experience, is in charge of our defence, it's far too important for a politician. We need expert people, perhaps from the defence industry and preferably retired so they're more likely to make impartial decisions. We've been relying on the U.S for far too long and if they do indeed pull out of NATO we'll be left high and dry. Aukus is long term and still heavily reliant on America. We must significantly increase out defence spending and strengthen ties with like minded countries, Australia, Canada etc............a Commonwealth Navy?
We are gravely gonna regret this if they do
We send £2.5 billion in aid to Ukraine but are cutting even more of our military. I’m not against helping Ukraine at all but you can’t send that kind of money abroad and cut our armed forces even more
This money can easily be found elsewhere. The money to Ukraine is in essence an investment in UK interests and defence.
@patrickhall4787 I'd normally support aid to Ukraine, but tbh everything in the armed forces is falling apart except arguably the Navy.
So honesty given the choice I'd say it should go to our own armed forces as I've heard no substantial commitment to a sustained increase in defence spending.
Ideally speaking we'd be having a budget that commitments to sustained capabilities so everyone knows what we are working with.
These constant rumours of cuts, and threats and eventual force restructuring are systemically pushing our capabilities bellow that of our neighbours.
In an ideal world we should be able to afford investing in ukraine to undermine a dangerous adversary and be able to maintain our armed forces capabilities.
However if I had to choose one I'd honestly say its got to the point where the 2.5 billion should be invested in our own armed forces.
The main problem is not so much funding but lack of recruitment. Short of bringing back national service or press gangs, you can't force people to join up.@@studentaviator3756
@@patrickhall4787 I was not saying don’t give it to Ukraine I’m saying if we can give £2.5 billion to Ukraine why can’t we give £2.5 billion extra to our armed forces
Sir, its always, always about the money. I was an officer in the Irish army reserve for 22 years and when I went in, in 1988 we were 23500 in strength and when I resigned in 2011 we were 6500 in strength, now in 2024 about 2000 in strength, the higher up I went, the more I realized money was the issue and the civil servants held the purse strings and made sure they got their budget ahead of ours. I have great disdain for civil servants. Horrible bastards. I do understand money is an issue, but Governments have GOT to invest in their military.
Britain's Army Reserve has been virtually dissolved and they're so short of men reservists are likely to find themselves in the front line in the Middle East after a couple of months part time training.
They have been selling off as many military installations for real estate as they can find. Historic Chelsea Barracks was sold to a foreign consortium years ago and for the coronation the troops had to come by commuter train from Woolwich in full dress uniform!
As an Indian, I would say Royal Navy and Royal Marines were extraordinary and we'll respected around the world,so Don't scrap your LPDs and Ships ♥️👑🤴🇬🇧🛳️🇮🇳
thank u my Indian friend
Why is the military budget being squeezed so much at a time of such international uncertainty
Because Britain is squeezed by crooks in the City of London who can never ever have enough
Because politicians don’t care about the military, sunak promised a raise in the defence budget then went back on it and now Ben Wallace isn’t in charge and grant schapps just does whatever he’s told by the Tory leadership.
Because the Uk can't afford anything because tax income is so weak.
Why is that lack of Investment and lack of spending by the government.
In addition extreme cost overrund for some military projects like Ajax and those two aircraft carriers
It is not. The defence budget has been consistently going up for the past 5 years or so. The UK has the largest military budget in Europe after Russia.
@@BucyKalman yeah I did some more research after I left the comment, you would think the commandos would benefit from that though.
It begs the question, why weren’t replacements for these ships ordered years ago? The workings of the minds of our ruling classes are a mystery.
Amphibious troops without an amphibious assault ship is just light infantry. It's like having paratroopers, but no aircraft.
We've got that already, not enough planes..
Couldn’t agree more! as cutting the Amphibious Fleet, and the slashing of Royal Marine numbers in recent times, just for the sake of political expediency is insane. Westminster and the RN should be looking to, as a bare minimum, doubling the Amphibious Fleet and funding the Royal Marines to a divisional sized Force. But hey, when was the defence of the realm the most fundamentally important role of any Nation’s Government?😡🤯
Minimum levels of capabilities should be written into law because these endless cuts are getting out of hand. It was insane getting rid of the invincible carriers early and it’s insane scrapping Albion and bulwark. The government is treating the armed forces like a money pot they can loot at every budget.
but we are... still alive?
@@DarkShroom They are gambling heavily. We could scrap everything and save £60 billion a year and just pray to Jesus that no one attacks us, is that what you'd prefer?
@@HRHooChicken wouldn't save anything thing, the Tories would figure out how to swindle that as well.
I agree, understandably.
Absolutely bang on Sir, the government must really take a reality check on this amphibious role of the RN & RM. It would be devastating loosing this capability and would be a loss of credibility in the eyes of our allies especially the US!
Excellent analysis
Spent some time back in the late 90s when 42 Commando was training here in the US. Those guys are serious operators. Get rid of anyone but the RMs.
Terrible idea, the Tories have done more to weaken our armed forces than an enemy country could over the years 😢
They have but it goes back even further than the Tories. The current problem is the utter failure to wake up to the fact the world is at war right now.
This Conservative government has been an unmitigated disaster for the UK.
As has every Tory Government before it. INCLUDING THATCHER !
Labour have also done there damage.
@@RJM1011Mate that empty "both sides" nonsense does not hold up to reality and facts
@@evulclown It does if you bother to LOOK !
true irony, i hate the Tories but Tony Blair prob trumps anyone else in history for the damage he did to the armed forces, their legitamacy @@RJM1011
Even the French keep their LPD 's as the Dutch !!! what is this that a sea going country dumps its elite seasoldiers...
The best weapon you have is the one you never have to use . The politicians have got their heads up their backsides . Having a strong military deters conflict . You need 3 things to fight a war , money, money , and more money . Maintaining a credible fighting force is cheaper than using it .
Scrapping these ships could be seen as an invitation by a hostile nation to mount an attack somewhere .
Your assessment of the logistics and strategy is spot on .
Russia has a 290 ship navy, UK an 80 ship navy. Russia has a population that is just over twice the size of the UK but has no trouble finding crews for its fleets and recruiting for its own armed forces that are considerably larger than what the UK has. UK has a population that is disenchanted with the direction UK has been led.
The Russian navy also has to sail with tub boats.
Just increase their ships breakdown and can’t get home 😂
The Russian navy on paper is one thing ,the reality is shockingly poor.
The UK and Russia are barely comparable in most things.
@@ivanconnolly7332 Russian navy now has a lot of combat experience and fired more tactical land attack missiles than the USN and RN has over the past decade. But of course it is fashionable to denigrate your nemesis.
have u seen the russian navy? 90% of it is brown water rubbish. stop counting (although i am impressed) and look a little closer.
Unacceptable penny pinching while there is a hot war in Europe and another in Middle East is reckless incompetence.
Well those aircraft carriers are expensive. We wanted the fully loaded 65,000 ton super carrier. We could have had a cheaper 45,000 ton one, but sailing with 1/2 compliment of aircraft is more fun. Not to mention the genius move of scrapping all the RN harriers because the fear that they might live on too long if the f35 was any later. Oh yes and then the £1bn charge to the contractor for delaying delivery. With spending like that, its no wonder crazy cuts are on the table.
Yeah as usual, the Tories lined someones pockets to the detriment of the UK. Corruption with backpayments / friends or outright incompetence? Subtle blend of the two with them usually.
apparently the NAVY cant find the bods to man them !
Don't forget selling the Harriers to the Americans cheaply for spare parts when they were fully air worthy.
Steel is cheap and air is cheaper. That extra 20,000 tons gets a lot more capacity for very little extra.
honestly what the hell use would a harrier be if we were fighting a near peer? .... in the Falklands the thing did well but everyone knew if the Mirage had more fuel by the time it reached us it would be a different story
Sounds like a kick in the Bulwarks
Our allies have increased spending substantially on defence. The Swedes are talking about war. Meanwhile in blighty our defence secretary is telling us only smarties are the answer. I'm reminded of that line from Dunkirk with John Mills in it. Where the germans were building tanks, while we were making butter.
There’s money for Ukraine, illegal immigrants and everything else but not the military.
Bring the army and of course the fantastic Royal Marines in.. time to do it
So true.!
My big cousin is a royal marine . I wish I was half the man he is
"Don't worry we're just going to blame the Americans for everything wrong in the world since WWI"
I was at a dinner recently and the speaker was a retired Admiral. He said that 40 years ago when he joined the Royal Navy the politicians had some idea of war because they'd been in one. The present ones just tell the services what to do with no idea whats needed to carry out their instructions.
Somehow, can't imagine Ben Wallace would allow these amphibious ships to be scrapped - does military in UK not have muscles to flex?
AMPHIBIOUS SHIPS CAN BE USEFUL
Without the LPD's or an equally good or better solution, what really is the point of having 6K+ trained commandos?
Shh, don't give them any ideas or they'll be next to be axed
Where is Ben Wallace when rationality needs him?
Wallace ain't perfect, but atleast was somewhat compitent
Major General Howes,
I second what you say.
For me, this is also short-sighted, as the time you really need them, sods law, it may not be there...
And that, right there, sometime in the near future, will be letting our armed forces down, so in turn, our country & people.
⬇️
If we do not hone the sword of justice to defend our touch of freedom, then you risk it being put out...
It wouldn't happen on my watch.
Principle first,
Money second.
Ex. RE
If Marines can't get to the battlefield than there is no reason to have Marines.
Politicians need to educate themselves.
This is happening in America too. Makes me sick to see this happen to sich a great allay.
More stupidity to add to the mountain of stupidity made by our politicians, the population are in despair as to how we rid ourselves of these incompetents?
As a former Rock ape (RAF Regiment gunner to all you civies) who has served with the Royal Marines I hope they keep all there equipment and don't get stripped back like we did, take care brothers
we should not only be keeping these LPD's for now, but ordering newer and larger ones ASAP. it would be better to have 3, as we could have them ready to deploy more and less of the refit stuff. ideally we would have 4. another capability we should be getting back is what left with HMS Ocean. Having LPD's is one thing but we need to replace that capability that an LHD gives. We should buy 2 large LHD's that can carry F-35B and helicopters, like HMS Ocean and the new American ones. Ideally we'd have 2-3 LPD and 1, maybe 2 LHD. They could relive the carriers in situations like the red sea, where the LHD could bring marines, attack helicopters, and enough fixed wing jets to support operations like what is going on now. Something the size of an invincible, maybe slightly larger at about 220-230m long, that could carry 24 aircraft, and have a well deck. 8x F-35B, 2x Merlin AEW, 4x Apache's, 2x ASW merlin, 4x Merlin Junglie, 4x Wildcat. that could easily all be put on a LHD, they would be immensely useful in the world we are in now, and be able to bring jets when the carriers are out of action or busy. Like I say, just 1 to replace Ocean would be nice, but ideally 2, then we could have 4 aircraft carrying ships like the days of Invincible, Illustrious, Ark Royal and Ocean, and then 2-3 LPD's. Our Military needs to expand and needs these changes to operate and stay a leading power.
It's amazing how all the top brass gob off when they have their pension banked!
Here here! The value of certain assets transcends petty ministerial logic......clearly, it's an awful time to decommission blue water vessels or reduce tip-of-the-spear units like the RM. If only the defence secretary recognised it....
Our Politicians are ruining this country.
The Royal Marines will be developed from being an amphibious infantry, held at readiness, to a forward-based, highly capable, maritime-for-future commando force, further enabled by the conversion of a Bay class landing ship to enable littoral strike. The Secretary of State for Defence
(Mr Ben Wallace) All future wars will be insurgency in nature ( Mr Philip Hammond ) when he made 4,480 Army personnel redundant with the aim to reach its target of 82,000 regular soldiers by 2017 while the number of reservists is to increase from 15,000, in 2010, to 30,000 in 2018. , aka his pie in the sky new look Army , and of course as predicted, it never happened , no way could he even recruit 50% of the number of part timers , even the regulars he offered cash to go part time never signed up , as for the knock on effect of that , Recruitment ???
We don't need Royal Marines.
Just infantry on boats nothing special and as for the "commando" part..they are nothing like WW2 commandos.
They don't do anything remotely commando
Would the last man leaving the British Forces please remember to turn the lights off 😡😡😡
Good stats at the beginning. RM are always switched on.
This government needs to stop making decisions like this. They are about to be thrown out of office for at least a decade.
think they should have built LHD's that could be used as light aircraft carrier like the HMAS canberry
What a mess we are in
In every facet of British life the lunatics are running the asylum
MOD is a joke
pay more tax then.
The elite bankers should fund this well structured fighting force as well, Because IF it falls, God forbid, they will be vulnerable to
Privatize the NHS then. It would save billions of pounds to spend in the military. You can't have it both ways though.
@@BucyKalmanwhat a load of trash, this would cost the UK more than save.
We pay enough tax, it just ends up in the pockets of the Tories via corruption. Nearly a billion stolen from us by this pack of Torie criminals with all the broken COVID contracts to their mates
I'm pleased to hear "paras" at the end - I've always thought of marines vs paras as a largely fine historical difference. With ever longer-range and larger aircraft is the para/marine distinction still as relevant?
The job role is completely different
Problem with the Paras the C130's have been cancelled and the new helicopters to replace the Pumas have not been ordered yet ?? The new A400 to replace the C130 still can not do all the roles of the C130 yet and never will be able too due to it's size.
@@RJM1011 Might be able to get a WW2 glider from a museum somewhere.
@@JJ_Khailha The ones I know of in the army flying museum would be good for firewood only !
I've always thought the Marines are very like the Para's but with intelligence. 😂
War is a “come as you are” brawl. Not “Hey can you wait a few years while we rebuild our capacity.
Is that a photo of the new replacement?
Mod should get the snp to order some new boats. They're good at that type of thing.
If the politicians send us to war then let them be the first to pick up a rifle stand in the frontline in the first wave to go over the top back in this 1970s we were briefed on a defended beach assault we were to expect 75% casualties the wounded would receive basic treatment and left for the follow-up troops to treat and evacuate them back to hospital ships
Now let our politicians think hard and very hard and have the balls and guts to pick up a rifle And style be something armed forces.
What made Churchill a great leader with many floors he served on the northwest frontier in India he then was in the Los Cavalry Charge at Omdurman He did battle in politics and when his planned illegally campaign went sour resigned he is posted the First Law of the Admiralty and volunteered to serve on the Western Front jerry the Great War WW1 Having survived he went back into politics battling hard all his principles and in some ways in the early stages of the Second World War he was the last man standing and formed a coalition government And there the Winston Rise to the challenge bringing forth the nation to back him and support him then Labour got in if only our current MPS good match that type of service.
So if you want to be an MP in Great Britain to serve your nation you need to get some in common get a feel of what it's like to be led by donkeys and fools I want to receive our Blair type politicians It's all about the money that they can make in profiteering at the expense of our servicemen's lives and that now includes active fighting females many of whom are medics and if you like to look at the records I think you'll find that in only free services including the Marines of most VC's Goes to the Royal Army Medical Corps and if I'm correct concludes two members to be double VC holders
We can't do without them but we've p*ssed the budget up the wall on carriers.
Something's got to give.
Flog a carrier to Australia or Japan and then build some new LPDs.
No it's because the Tories have p*ssed money into their own pockets billions worth.
Ridiculous.
Save our royal navy !
big bad ex empire got to be worried that its forces would become nothing without 2 rusty ships. wow. how the wheel turns.
yeah the world has turned to a world where 90%+ of the decent combat ships in the ocean are our allies in NATO.... but we should be scared apparently because Putin still has all the ships he saved from the soviet union, and Chinas tonnes of rockets with no fuel in them because they wanted to heat their meals
literally i am so glad i don't live in the British Empire thanks... Britain, Europe and the USA we were the biggest winners when the empire fell... poor Russians must chase a treadmill that can never be reached for the sake of one mad guy's ego
There are also 3 bay class amphibious ships.
Maybe since Russia can't use it's landing ships for their intended purpose in the black sea their has been a quiet realisation that such craft in era of drones and evermore missiles cannot operate as they did against a half decent foe anymore
Don’t need them anymore, just a bunch of hats.
The US could donate a few LST from WW2 to the UK Navy to keep up amphibious capabilities.
Anti-tank troop, 45 Commando RM, 1980s. Yomped across the Falklands, never fired a shot.
John Nott, the then head shed tried to get us disbanded, my point being, that this is not new. I wish our government would squeeze in other areas of public funding otherwise another country could be running the shop.
it's probabally true, and i really like having at least one of these.... but that said they might have a point is this really best for our defense spending? .. also not mentioned the UK is looking at working with a partner to develop a new anhibious boat by 2030 (develop not be ready)
just don't sell them to China as they are one of the few nations that actually needs to make a D-Day style beech landing
we are an island nation, our marines and amphibious capabilities are more important than the army. cutting our oversees abilities is a massive blow to operational capability oversees
They probably don’t have the personnel to crew them as retention in the armed forces is at rock bottom.
Financial cuts without any sort of plan for investment leads nowhere but down
Reason why the budget is shrinking, the idea of the Americans will be there to carry the weight.
Buying asylum ships and cancelling commando ships….thats “Great Britain” today…..
Get rid of our defence budget to give to the new hotel guests. What a country
It’s not rocket science, we NEED the RM Commandos.
they need boats for their shenanigans.
ALOT of boats.
Government will not listen as they need the money to pay the postmasters and postmistresses alliance.
Sorry
I want to support Ukraine but not at the expense of our military! We cannot send £2.5 billion to Ukraine whilst diminishing the UK combat ability. Sunak has a lot to answer for!
Many regiments disbanded, vehicles, tanks and other equipment in storage/mothballed, along with Navy vessels, recruitment is disastrous to say the least along with this whole pathetic attitude towards all these imagined genders etc.
However, there are no real wars since WW II and even that was a staged agenda with Adolf through the Bush family being escaped the Buena Aries. The same Place Saddam was secretly moved to.
The militaries are being disbanded, the idea of countries and central governments also being dismantled, of course we know the so called ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT agenda, however, that wont come to fruition as the old world status is bankrupt.
I understand your point of view, I too started with the Parachute Regiment, eventually left after my contracted time and re-joined 29 commando, 148 Meiktila Bty FO.
As they say "Theatre" of war. It's there in the title. A staged act for the old deceptive rulers who are now redundant in their role.
all the uk military couldn't fill the wembley stadium ! lol
I wonder why the UK has an armed forces recruiting crisis
Wishy Washy needs to take his head out of a dark place and look at whats happening in the world
This was more conjecture than statistic. I don't believe what this man stated, nor do I disbelieve him - this isn't enough to even formulate an opinion. You can do better. Do so.
😢 What the hell is happening
Ridiculous decision, keep them and even increase the military spending for the Royal Navy , especially after recent events in yemen . Better to be safe than sorry .
We've never had a government since blair
"We're learning lessons from Ukraine" -(continues to shrink the military to the smallest in its history, heck it's a fraction the size of Ukraine's military, Never mind Russia or China)
What are we learning here? - We're driving over the proverbial cliff, the only difference is we know what we're doing wrong yet we moronically carry on anyway.
I keep hoping this is all misinformation and a bit of a joke right? What’s going on in the world at the moment, why!?
The treasury has Grant Schapps by the balls, he'll just strip away as much as they ask him to while he is defence secretary.
Keep the ships MOD.
I don't understand how a major high income, largish population power like the UK has had to and continues to have to make cutbacks to things like ships, tanks, fighters and troop numbers to the point of being a smaller percentage to equivalent powers and a fraction of its former self. Are the big carriers sucking all the funds, is it Brexit, some combination of both or something else? Someone please explain this to me
a fraction compared to who? and also i'm not really personally for the idea of trying to compete with our former world controlling navy of the late 19th century.... fortunatly we do not control the world anymore
Foreigners don't want to die for Britain, and the British don't want to go off to a foreign land to die and leave their loved ones in a country full of foreigners. Thus, there are no bodies for the Royal Navy
Maybe cuz they’re spending all of our budget on Ukraine and not our OWN military
There's too little value in UK industry. Even if we buy foreign stuff we'd have to pay UK industry to maintain it. Too many fat cats, shareholder expectations. That's my take on it.
There is something that ALL Armies will have to realise, modern warfare and modern soldiers are radically different from those that have preceded them. The modern soldier will, in a hot war be a vastly different soldier than in times past, it’s almost impossible to predict how they will act. Examine the behaviours of Russian “professional” soldiers in the Ukraine, likewise examine the behaviour of the conscript Russian soldiers in Ukraine, likewise look at the mercenaries and soldiers of client state?
My mate Smudge told me the reason they are getting moth balled is because the Navy is too WOKE (not even sure what that means). The Scran was rubbish on board, D and I training DVD didn't work on board, the Sailors were expected to deploy, not enough leave, Sailors were not paid enough, they were expected to stop rubber dinghys in the channel (Not the Navies job try Border Force), the accommodation in Shore establishments is rubbish. Pensions have changed, no one in the Navy can afford to buy a house, there were female Sailors on board, and finally. The Sailors today are not up for the task.😂😂
" they were expected to stop rubber dinghys in the channel (Not the Navies job try Border Force)"
It's the job of the men of a nation to protect it
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp When the government say digger on your Type 23 go and stop the dinghys then I will until that day crack on Border Force
@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp Why not the women ? Kurdish women did it, Ukrainian women are doing it Israeli women are doing it why not British ? I have worked and served with many extremely capable women in my day ...and not just in REMF roles.
I was quoting posts I've seen on CZcams, mate. Totally agree with you. A lot of the WRENS that have worked for me were better than the lads' hands down.
@@George-dx2sd I don't doubt that some women are capable of such work but traditionally this is what the men of a nation do without passing the buck to others
Here we go again John Knott all over again, who didn't know ships like Intrepid and Fearless existed, This idiot thought the aircraft carriers were run by the RAF
The Bibi Stockholm might come in handy after all.
But but but but but black women and black and women and black ship thing black women. Modern. Fighting.
Here we go 😂😂😂
Remember the Falklands!
The military are cut to the bone every year, Harrier given to the US, brigades re vamped to have less numbers, ranger regiments but still the same overall numbers of troops, C1 had less C2 now less C3, the Soviet Union collapsed and we cut, cut, cut but Russia is still as it always was a real threat, as the 51st state of the US we entered stupid wars around the Middle East and currently helping the US again expand another Middle Eastern conflict.
A credible military that can intervene where needed for U.K. or UN interests includes landing ships, did the Tory’s not learn from the Falklands war or has past lessons being forgotten, we can buy dodgy long overdue Ajax but not buy off the shelf U.K. made CV90 ?
You buy home insurance but may never need it, failing the military by under funding or failing in numbers or kit it folly.
britan is reaching parity with ireland lmao
Eddie Izzard and his type is the answer……be careful what you wish for.
They are the problem
What are you jabbering on about
@@evulclown Obviously you’re working class, silly and offensive.
Disgusting
And yet can afford to send billions to Ukraine but can't defend Britain or fund the nhs 😂😂😂and we thought Ukraine was run by a clown
OF COURSE YOU HAVE YO FALL INTO A CONSCRIPT ..
BUT IN REALITY SHOULD BE IN POLITICIANS FACES TELLING THEM WHAT YOU NEED
this is something that is unbelievable to understand.
a person with no idea what they are talking about has asked this question, merely to justify their own job, reality must be to get rid of this idiot.
oh on second thoughts. make them go and see the royal marines in person to get a taste of just what these people do, how they do it and what the value is in that.