The Second Opium War: When Britain and France Started Another War to Sell Drugs China | Countryball
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How bad does a country's situation have to be that it can have the deadliest civil war in all of history and that's STILL not the worst it'll get.
Oh don’t worry, you’ll see
It’s gonna be warlord time very soon.
Lol in Florida one of few American safe zones.
Mao:
Imperial Japan.
"Hold my beer"
The Byzantine Empire
It’s a miracle the Qing managed to survive a massive civil war AND another opium war.
The Chinese Empire had an amazing amount of longevity, but just like Rome. All Empires eventually fall because they fail to adapt and evolve.
Although they able to survive through all these wars but they unable to adapt and evolve just like the Romans did because the Romans are more adaptable and involvement then the Chinese the fact that the Romans able to live a bit longer than any Chinese Empire they have been through
What if the Qing modernized like Japan?
@@mashedpota-toe2111I’d argue it’s more because Roman Emperor’s didn’t have to all be part of one family for a continuation of government like in China. If you look at individual Roman dynasties they get replaced really quickly compared to Chinese dynasties.
The sheer incompetency of the Imperial Qing Court always astonishes me. Maybe its a difference in culture, but the arrogance and naivety of recalcitrance towards a demon at your doorstep is unacceptable with the innocents who can die.
Industrialization was a blip the Qing didn't (and wouldn't) see coming.
Qing would have fallen in 100 years even if the opium war hadn't happened.
Qing wasn’t a nation, it was an empire. Some Chinese people bowed to the British expecting (without knowing the invaders) that they would establish a new dynasty… the Qing were not invested in China, they were invested in their own survival. One can look at the situation and determine either to become like the West and defeat the colonizers or to retreat behind a wall of exclusion and isolation - in the second option, the hope is that the Chinese would know so little of the outside that they would truly believe the Emperor ruled all under heaven… it is a mix of Chinese self-aggrandizement (not unwarranted in previous centuries) and reactionary conservatism. But it was not for China, it was for the Qing.
@@wtripley, and with the first option, the Qing would be utterly humiliated by what they considered to be an inferior nation... 3 separate times.
the authority of Qing Court are Manchu ethnics group@@wtripley
Qing dynasty might be one of the best examples of arrogance about your own superiority.
Ming dynasty is superior
It is so surprising that Qing one of the biggest empires at the time Got absolutely got destroyed by an 40X smaller country Japan.
Industrialized vs Un-industrialized
@@buddermonger2000 ikr
Ukraine and Russia is another example of how corruption makes the most significant army feeble.
@@nathanseper8738 yeah!
Also they do have different approach.
Like even before Commodore Perry, the country is already primed for industrialization (like Dajima becoming source of commerce and commodities exchange were being formed) and Samurai as a class was in decline with merchants filling the vacuum via loans and marrying into their families even if merchant caste was despised. Even if country was closed, but more of an exclusive contract since some families profited from monopoly privileges (Setsuma becoming hub of foreign trade while Ryu Kyu became wealthy kingdom as a middle man proxy).
This really highlights one thing I think people miss about the colonial period. The huge power disparity between those who are ruled and their rulers. The rulers of many countries typically had a different culture, often a different religion and language as well. This had even been true in England, that's why it's a cow when it's in the field with a farmer and beef when it's at the table in the castle!
But most of all the rulers often simply didn't have the best interests of their subjects at heart. Against that what was a ruler's argument against foreign occupation, that they had a similar skin tone?
Most countries are far more representative today so most people can't relate to the perspective of the common man in the past.
I think what's highlighted more is the gap between not just rulers and ruled, but rulers and the middle men on the ground who deal with (and sometimes even cause) the problems that the rulers have to deal with, especially when there are distances of hundreds or even thousands of miles involved and communications can take days or weeks to happen.
Also, in China at least, the locals were VERY aware that the Qing did not have their own interests at heart, and often did not view the Qing as "Chinese" at all..
I'll also say that modern day leader still lead vastly different lives from the common man (who are themselves extremely varied); they are just more compelled to make a show of interacting with them more.
Yeah, people need to understand that back then, class was life.
Leaving your class was the same as changing your life entirely, we can see this with the video as well.
Whenever i watch an historical video i notice heroic figures always get punished even though they did *objectively* good deeds.
The issue is that objectivity is rendered obsolete, because only the subjective thinking of the ruling class matters.
The opium war is an perfect example, with the French and the Russians, they could've invested a bit more into their expedition to get a larger piece of the cake, but because their leaders felt insecure when it came to withholding such distant lands, they didn't.
Or that could just be hindsight being 20/20 again, but you know what I'm talking about.
Also your comment reminded me of the anglo saxons, the word "Schwein" in German means "pig"
But the english language STILL has it, "Swine".
The reason why we don't call pigs "swine" anymore is because of the French royal family which held England for quite a while, and they viewed Anglo-Saxon (low german language) as a "peasants tounge" and since people liked to show off how high class they were, they copied French words.
Lmao no
America: It's not our fight
China: (shoots an American ship)
America: Looks like someone needs some FREEDOM
Like the U.S always for reasons only attacks when they attack them except you know U.S.S Maine
@@howtodobyanidiot595hey, at the time the idio- i mean citizens didn't know it was an ammunition explosion
@@TheUSgoverment don't worry i know
Never Mess With America's Boats!
@@weldonwinTripoli learned that very well
The phrase blood is thicker than water is way older than this event, a similar phrase appears in the German epic Reinhart Fuchs in 1180 with use in English going back to around the 1400s. To my understanding Tattnall's contribution was popularizing the phrase in American culture.
According to a QI episode, it started as a Bible quote of "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb" with the opposite meaning to today.
I’m joining the war on drugs. On the side of drugs🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Yeah, we're the ones that sorta started it, sorry not sorry
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@@ChariTheAlternate from having a mighty gigantic empire, to bo'oh'o'wa'er speaking losers 😭
@@weirdguylolWe don't even say it like that it's a fake stereotype
@@Randombloke00 yeah sure wha'ever
Blood is thicker than water 🩸
"these forts were in a very strong position with a dedicated garrison, so the allies lost a couple dozen guys taking them"
It was actually under a dozen
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Been waiting on this for a while brother thanks so much! It really explains China's mentality to this day. We are living in the aftermath of this war believe it or not
It does, but its also a massively hypocritical mentality; since this hyper imperialism was very much what China inflicted when it was in penultimate power.
It reminds me of Germany's mentality post-WW2. Like yeah, it sucks, but you would've done the same if you were on the winning side.
@@stephenjenkins7971 typical western brain. Nobody in Asia these days care about the imperialism but more the opium that ruined millions of families in Asia across multiple asian countries. The legalization of the opium was so big that though we have to execute most of the opium traders we caught already. It still isnt enough to stop it. Gotta thank China for flooding the west with drugs and heroine
@@stephenjenkins7971it's about time we see western families suffer just like we did
@@stephenjenkins7971It's not hypocritical because historically speaking, China has never done such a thing to other countries. The Chinese mode of interacting with other countries was called the tributary system, which basically works by requiring neighbouring countries to acknowledge Chinese superiority and pay tribute. In fact, the Chinese often gave more gifts than receive tribute. The Chinese never practiced colonisation, no shady deals, no drugs. They simply did not care that much about other countries to be that evil to them.
@@skraskraa._.5371 The cope on this comment as they talk about demanding tribute and superiority from other nations that, whenever they try to get out of it, receives Chinese retributions and sometimes conquest. How many times has China attempted conquest of Vietnam, exactly?
Ezekiel, once again you impress me.
SO so many videos just sweep the second opium war with ya "Much the same broad strokes but with the French and Americans involved".
You truely have impressel me with the amount of history, high quality production, and vivid story tell.
God I'm so excited for part 2.
Since this is about the Century of Humiliation, will you do Taiping Rebellion?
Yes yes he wil
Yep he will definitely do
Blood is thicker than water
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Okay, I want to point out that the phrase "Blood is thicker than water" is the shortened version of "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb" which just sounds way cooler
there is a timeline were someone in Britain heard about how the Chinese were reacting and said "Right Gents iv got an idea"
Congratulations to the gracious men and women on the development team for this channel, and the skill that Ezekiel found that gave us such a gift of comedy & content!
While a lot of people knew that China faced both a foreign invasion and a massive civil war simultaneously at that time, they also tend to forgot that Britain also faced a massive anti-colonial uprising in India while simultaneously waging a war of conquest against China. Its amazing how Britain was able to simultaneously subjugate two of Asia's largest countries without overextending itself.
America: im sorry, but… *twitches* I thought you just said they hit a ship.
Captain: they did.
America: teach them not to fuck with our ships…
That last image of the great powers behind the qing emperor is pure art.
Josiah Tatnell, he got to experience what all of Zhuge Liang's enemies did
I'd say the americans weren't humiliated given there non engagement and heroic rescue wasn't really there fight
their?
@@randomguy-tg7ok correcting someones grammar or spelling when you get the point is petty and stupid especially in a comments section
ngl man
the quality of your videos is just supreme
🩸Blood is thicker than water.🌊
You should make a video on the sipoey mutiny 🩸🩸
Awesome as always man, thx for a great video😊😊
Blood is most defiantly thicker than water.
I really hope they do the Boxer Rebellion soon
The Shogun Total War music is a banger!
Well, as you said on your stream, I found this extremely interesting. I look forward to the next video you will produce.
Shogun 2 soundtrack makes this video even better
The Total war exc loading screen really got me when I first saw it.
The First Opium War was - at a stretch - justifiable. This was just gunboat colonialism. It's still kind of hard for me to wrap my head around the wonky casualty ratios here, though - sailing up a river to the Capital of China should cost thousands of casualties, at least. Really puts the technological gap here into perspective.
Also I did not know that this is where "Blood is thicker than water" came from.
How was the first war justifiable? For banning opium trade?
Mark Felton's series on the topic says that the British guns outranged the Chinese by a factor of three, and the Qing leadership was so passive that the British could exploit this advantage to the fullest extent. Said leaders must have been rather uninspiring, because whenever the British did close in to capture a fort they found the defenders showing their heels.
I really don’t see how this can justify the war though. UK wanted to trade with China, which the emperor limited to only happen on his terms and at a specific location. The British could not make the Chinese market by any of their goods, so they then began selling opium to the Chinese, which was 1) banned by the emperor several times 2) also illegal in the UK at the time. The laws had not been enforced very strictly for a long time, then Lin Zexu was sent to stop the trade, confiscated the private stock of brittish merchants and threatened with further retaliation. The British government then backs the merchants claim to compensation and declares war. This is obviously very broad strokes, but no matter what ideology you might say the British were fighting for (free trade, international diplomacy etc.), I would say it still doesn’t justify breaking the laws of a foreign nation and then demanding compensation. Japan at first only allowed the Dutch to trade in the country and Malaysia, as far as I understand, didn’t allow any foreign trade, so why was the Chinese regulations so “unjust”?
The phrase is way older than this.
I've been waiting for this video for a long time.
Been here since how to play vic2 video. Keep up the good work man appreciate it.
Best history channel on youtube! I love your video thumbnails!
First a Scott Pilgrim reference and now an Apocalypse Now reference!?!?? Do you know me dude?
Love this channel
Blood IS thicker than water
Boxer Rebellion episode upcoming? 😛
I hope so. It's all one story.
Did he just describe British rule in India as humanitarian?
What is that music at 15:45!!???? With the solemn scene of the Taku forts, feels so chilling
The Century of Humiliation already began with the Qing Dynasty.
China be like “We don’t want another century of humiliation.”
Then perhaps, my brothers, have you considered not being a global humiliation for 5 minutes?
I just found your channel and this is some good sh!t, great channel
Blood is thicker than water🩸
Your energetic narration makes your already well-done presentation even better! I appreciate your clarification on the extent of American involvement in the Second Opium War. LOVE the Opium Wars - a true triumph of the West over arrogant and oppressive Imperial Chinese mis-government!
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Blood is thicker than water!
Hi, great video
imagine the absolute clown world today if the British did help 19th century Chinese Scientology.
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Pretty sure there would be tensions with an influx of missionaries who knew actual theology. I don't see a scenario in which the British don't either depose him for changing attitude towards them or have to step in after he dies and a succession war breaks out, not getting involved was the correct political decision but a terrible strategic one, Britain could have had the most populous and wealthy nation in the world on a sliver platter, and empress of China would have been an incredibly powerful title throughout Asia for Victoria to take, also the Chinese would have made much better imperial bureaucrats than the Indians, and due to the culture might well have even been a stabilising influence on the wider empire, Indians are extremely self-governing, China would practically have encouraged reform and top down change.
11:23 yoooo
Can you do the Taiping Rebellion next?
love the total war reference
in before anyone can watch the whole video
as I'm early let me make a joke:
the late Qing
Yo when are we coming back to finish the series? Gotta get all three wars in before we die
Cool video
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Anyone else hear Shogun 2 and Total War Three kingdoms music?
Not-So-Fun Fact: I was born exactly 149 years after the Arrow Incident and the start of the Second Opium War.
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nice video
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6:56 The Sepois be like
Did anyone notice the chinese said ‘municiparity’ instead of municipality 😂😂😂
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Poor Canton......
Day 1 of asking Ezekiel to cover the Philippine-American War
Heu... the conquest of india not profitable for the bristish ?
Come again?
i wonder what the hell is 55 days in peking
Americans risking their lives to save the British, something the British have never done for us.
Please make a William F Buckley video next, it would be a really good addition to your philosopher series
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Nice.
🩸blood is thicker than water 💧
Thumbnail goes hard as fuck
Interesting
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🩸blood will always be thicker than water.😎
It's amazing how Chinese were the ones who invented gun powder but the Europeans were the ones to use it better 🩸
The British being lovely chaps... as always.
Can you give a list of the music you use?
Apocalypse now
what is this series called?
3rd Opium War when?
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Crying Tungusic noises
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You poor soul uploading a history video the same day as Sam o Nella this video has been doomed to under preform for absolutely no reason
Waiting 🩸🙏
why the fug did he ram it. Just SHOOT the blockage.
They tried. It didn't work for some reason.
I lowkey sell drugs too