Driving on wheels with no spokes - how is that possible?

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Komentáře • 299

  • @volvo09
    @volvo09 Před rokem +110

    I like when you guys show the stuff you come up with to the other shops!

    • @Vicus_of_Utrecht
      @Vicus_of_Utrecht Před rokem +5

      It's like Tesla walking up to a Khoisan... "partake of my electrowizardry".

  • @farmdve
    @farmdve Před rokem +24

    This is the coolest thing I've seen on a car tbh. The channel has always produced amazing stuff, but this was a pretty incredible test.

  • @tristanhameleers7506
    @tristanhameleers7506 Před rokem +71

    This keeps being an amazing channel, amazing video like always.
    And I would love to see a follow up of this with brakes and less noise and so.

  • @T2D.SteveArcs
    @T2D.SteveArcs Před rokem +34

    Awsome crazy content as always guys.. Weld in some sheet metal all the way round the inside diameter so you can't see the bearings then fill the inside with grease 😅 lights underneath so it shines through at night and somthing black flicks in the orange paint so you can see it's not rotating with the tire...

  • @SovietRussianTroller
    @SovietRussianTroller Před rokem +25

    The creativity with these guys is next level!

  • @rayceeya8659
    @rayceeya8659 Před rokem +53

    I can only imagine how this thing would sound after a few miles of gravel road. "SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

    • @joshmusicmix9459
      @joshmusicmix9459 Před rokem +9

      I could see fully sealing with grease and more bigger bearings so they wouldn't catch rocks. But the way they are now yeah country roads you'll know the neighbor from the city just got them lol

    • @thatguyalex2835
      @thatguyalex2835 Před rokem +3

      Or imagine driving 65-70 mph (110 km/h) on these. After half an hour, just a loud grinding noise, like a broken washing machine bearing. :)

    • @joshmusicmix9459
      @joshmusicmix9459 Před rokem +1

      @That Guy Alex :) thanks for reminding me of when a bearing went out in my semi and for the 500 ft I was slowing down it was screaming like a red headed stepchild getting whooped.

    • @SpringBonnie1983
      @SpringBonnie1983 Před rokem +1

      ​@@joshmusicmix9459why so oddly specific?

    • @joshmusicmix9459
      @joshmusicmix9459 Před rokem +1

      @@SpringBonnie1983 because that happened

  • @SerPurple51
    @SerPurple51 Před rokem +2

    I love how all the other shops took such interest and started instantly coming up with future modificationss

  • @stevenfaber3896
    @stevenfaber3896 Před rokem +8

    Hydroneumatic suspension like Citroen coupled with an inverted caliper that pushes out with the same system, and that would be a super lit offroad/onroad setup

  • @severussnap4373
    @severussnap4373 Před rokem +1

    i love this channel , no bs , just straight to the point . hello from america !

  • @volvo09
    @volvo09 Před rokem +9

    That came out good, looks wild rolling down the road!

  • @franknukemcomegetsome2744

    You guys are having too much fun! keep it up!😸

  • @robertgolding
    @robertgolding Před rokem +6

    Add a ring gear to the inside rim, then have a CV with a pinion running the ring gear, that will give you drive. As for breaks, easy, just a rotor the size of the inner rim and set it up like oversized disc brakes.

    • @5.43v
      @5.43v Před rokem +2

      Set it up as drum

    • @giggiddy
      @giggiddy Před rokem +1

      Do spokeless drive wheels

  • @737Garrus
    @737Garrus Před rokem +1

    These Spoke- & Coreless wheels look great! They look so futuristic!

  • @antonchigurh6590
    @antonchigurh6590 Před rokem +10

    Interesting experiment as always from you guys! Love your channel!

  • @kameljoe21
    @kameljoe21 Před rokem +2

    To be honest this would look dope AF on a trailer. A light one that you can use those torshin type axles. Using some sort of aluminum tire and bearings with grease and a nice fitted clamped thing with bolts on the outside. The brakes could be done inside using some type of drum.

  • @slowcarshop
    @slowcarshop Před rokem +2

    the amazement on the other mechanic's faces is awesome

  • @TheSilverShadow17
    @TheSilverShadow17 Před rokem

    These hubless/spokeless prototype wheels would probably put them at a serious weight advantage compared to traditional ones since there's a lot less rotational mass involved but the execution can use a makeover. That said it was actually done very well by Garage 54.

  • @kentworch
    @kentworch Před rokem +10

    Awesome video guys, really cool build as always.👍👍

  • @CopeML
    @CopeML Před rokem

    Inserting a cowling on the inside of the rim with noise suppression mats would probably help immensely on cutting out some of the grinding noises and giving it a cleaner look with better water resistance, the rollers are resonating inside the open void like a musical instrument.

  • @sergiosolis4538
    @sergiosolis4538 Před rokem +1

    Great job as always, guys. I would like to suggest that you could try a strip of nylon for the outer bearing races to ride on instead of straight metal to metal contact. That may quiet the noise.

  • @occif2023
    @occif2023 Před rokem +1

    You could fill the inside with an oil bath and seal it with a press insert pipe that is the same diameter as the hole opening. That would quiet it down, lube the bearings and still give you the hollow look.

  • @bacilluscereus1299
    @bacilluscereus1299 Před rokem +1

    They are living the dream.
    wish you guys all the best.
    Live long and prosper.

  • @busyguy7479
    @busyguy7479 Před rokem +1

    this is a great idea and is brilliant , all u you need is a brake system and maybe larger diameter bearings never a dull minute guys. kudos to you Vlad and your guys.

  • @blackstorm86
    @blackstorm86 Před rokem +5

    I always enjoy seeing what crazy ideas you guys come up with. It would be interesting to see if you can figure something out how to do this for the drive wheels.

    • @ShiroiShinjuDC5
      @ShiroiShinjuDC5 Před rokem +2

      You would need to reengineer the entire axle/cv shaft and invent your own for that to work

    • @SerPurple51
      @SerPurple51 Před rokem

      You should watch the Jay Leno video of his steam fire engine. It has this central bearing type disc that drives the front rolling wheels. The thing is from early 1900's too

  • @brianmeattey4151
    @brianmeattey4151 Před rokem +2

    very well done and the bearings if ya use a set of a Lil bigger bearings that are self packed sealed ut probley stop some the noise ..but now what would look good is the centers you all made a while back that free float and don't move when driving ..those would look cool in center not touching rim lol but ya I like them ..great job godblees

  • @DirtyHairy1
    @DirtyHairy1 Před rokem

    I love how the young guys appear way more curious and open to ideas :)
    something has to be "practical" isn't hammered into their heads yet so hard

  • @MichaelThomas-wb2xu
    @MichaelThomas-wb2xu Před rokem +5

    You must have read my mind, as I was watching I thought it would look much better with the outside brace gone...Now figure out how to do it to the drive axles!

  • @rockerforlife194
    @rockerforlife194 Před rokem +1

    This, is amazing!
    Love your videos Guys from, Missouri USA!
    Keep up the nice work!

  • @danbergthold3481
    @danbergthold3481 Před rokem +1

    Wow! Another huge success for Garage 54!
    As usual, I commend you on your selection of a rather lovely test car. Gorgeous!
    Taking your new wheel technology to the next level, I suggest INVISBLE wheels and tires.
    You guys are masters of developing transparent auto components. Why not take the next obvious step make make them invisible?

  • @treeguyable
    @treeguyable Před rokem

    In the future, this idea will be on every electric vehicle, then, someone will come up with a center hub idea, making it so much simpler, and less expensive to manufacture. People will be in awe.

  • @PfunkNH
    @PfunkNH Před rokem +5

    Love what you guys do

  • @RitaElaineHeltonBarker-uz4sz

    Garage54 should be awarded their own auto manufacturing facility by the Russian Government

  • @marcopruscini1603
    @marcopruscini1603 Před rokem

    Somebody named you the myth busters of automobiles. Suits perfect.

  • @ACupOfDuck
    @ACupOfDuck Před rokem +2

    Put an big sprocket on the rim on the inside and then use a chain. Would solve both the issue with driven wheels and breaks.
    Please try it out!

  • @deandee8082
    @deandee8082 Před rokem +2

    how about a concentric bearing system, so the bearings rotate around as well, this way they aren't static and will wear better... also try a tapered bearing placing the larger diameter side positioned to carry the most weight ... you could even gear it as well so they have drive, use a couple rear end gears and fashion the gears in a concentric gear drive set up

  • @Theleftroad
    @Theleftroad Před rokem

    I am genuinely impressed! Well done.

  • @robodock23
    @robodock23 Před rokem +3

    Maybe some kind of a nylon ring between the bearings and the wheel rim. It would be cool to do a band break of sorts. use the bearing axis as a back stop and a friction material that would push on the rolling surface of the rim.

    • @kirdot2011
      @kirdot2011 Před rokem

      As much as that is a great advice they never seem to read the comments especially English ones nor do they seem to return to past projects

    • @robodock23
      @robodock23 Před rokem +1

      @@kirdot2011 Fair point. least we can do is give the ideas. other people may try it too. lol

  • @LoPhatKao
    @LoPhatKao Před rokem +1

    imagine the noise and damage if a pebble got between rim and a bearing😱
    seal the bearing channel to keep debris and dirt out
    maybe pack the channel with extra grease as well

  • @brianbrwa
    @brianbrwa Před rokem

    Teflon bushings pressed onto the bearings. Electromagnets with pads welded to the rim for braking and possible hybrid motor hijinks. Drive wheel with a sprocket welded to one of the bearings. Probably a couple thousand dollars US to pull off.

  • @janlassen6101
    @janlassen6101 Před rokem +1

    Bearings are not made for that kind of abuse... The outer ring is very fragile. That is why it needs some sort of housing or in this case a strong steel-ring to protect it.

  • @gregsabo6371
    @gregsabo6371 Před rokem +2

    You guys are awesome. Very cool idea!

  • @TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA
    @TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA Před rokem +1

    If you guys want look up hubless wheels for cars there's a company that makes an electric motor inside the wheels and you place them on the front or rear axle of your car given you an electric fourwheel drive if your car only had two wheel drive, the motor inside the wheels are just as powerful as a Tesla motor so you can make your car very fast in acceleration

  • @Nicky_Otto
    @Nicky_Otto Před rokem

    That looks really futuristic, nice job!

  • @allothernamesbutthis
    @allothernamesbutthis Před rokem

    if there is ever an allstars G54 build, these are a worthy component.

  • @europeantechnique572
    @europeantechnique572 Před rokem

    This definitely could be the future of cars in wheel theory, and I would consider electromagnetic breaking system which could possibly add efficiency to a charging battery in return.

  • @mike-drums-maine
    @mike-drums-maine Před rokem +1

    Yes, been waiting for the next post! Awesome.

  • @athhud
    @athhud Před rokem +1

    They just need a sealed center drum (vented at the top) so that you can have the bearings in an oil bath.

  • @bigbraincontent
    @bigbraincontent Před rokem +1

    Well done sirs 👍 👍 you could incorporate a real torsion bar into that suspension set up, since the wheel mount already wants to act like one

  • @dareace9
    @dareace9 Před rokem

    As a mechanic as well, set up drums? The wheel could be the drum and that would prevent heat soak. But you’d need to sleeve the wheel to prevent it becoming a wear item

    • @SparxI0
      @SparxI0 Před rokem

      I think that could blow up the tire if they got hot enough, similar to how mountain bikes with rim brakes will overheat the rim when you ride the brakes down a big hill

  • @Helpfulsuggestions
    @Helpfulsuggestions Před rokem

    The design would be perfect for a drop trailer that lowers to the ground to load motorcycles and other equipment onto it then race back up with airbags.
    It’s a perfect design.

  • @nautcasprt
    @nautcasprt Před rokem +1

    Pretty dam cool. Add some LEDs inside the tire and drive at night.

  • @mattmurphy225
    @mattmurphy225 Před rokem +1

    I can definitely see these catching in the American tuner JDM community sometime soon

  • @GeneralSantosCityJailhouse
    @GeneralSantosCityJailhouse Před 4 měsíci

    12:46 HAKKAPELIITTA - it is a tire from Finland! 😎

  • @benjaminzacharko8740
    @benjaminzacharko8740 Před rokem

    The effect would be much more dramatic with 20-22" wheels. But I love this concept!

  • @patrickbrady447
    @patrickbrady447 Před rokem

    What a fun project, well done. You guys never fail to amaze me.

  • @lordgoofus2364
    @lordgoofus2364 Před rokem

    Would've looked even better if you'd welded something to the inside of the rim to hide the bearings. Just a solid band of black steel so it looks like the wheels are staying there through the power of magic and positive thoughts.

  • @SparxI0
    @SparxI0 Před rokem +1

    Damn and they're running nokian hakkapeliittas on there too, those are a good winter tire

  • @severussnap4373
    @severussnap4373 Před rokem +1

    make the whole hub a bearing , dont rely on many small bearings .too many moving parts makes it easier to fail .

  • @Weldoholic
    @Weldoholic Před 4 měsíci

    This brings another definition to changing wheel bearings

  • @AnalogDude_
    @AnalogDude_ Před rokem +1

    Make the brake disc inside out or inverted.
    Make a track where the bearing balls ride in, but hard to make a seal.
    : )

  • @twinstickpete
    @twinstickpete Před rokem

    Awesome, Vlad🎉
    Bravo!!

  • @TeddyDPhillips0
    @TeddyDPhillips0 Před rokem

    They make very large opening bearings. That would be perfect and illuminate any bearing noise

  • @Edinnbesic7
    @Edinnbesic7 Před rokem

    This channel should have much more subscribers 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @Cmm4626
    @Cmm4626 Před rokem

    I bet your neighbors on the street always get excited and terrified when they see you approaching in a Lada 😂😂😂

  • @coastalcleaningandmaintena2884

    Love the content all the way from Canada

  • @TheRealHypervizor
    @TheRealHypervizor Před rokem

    The weight is not evenly placed on these bearings. The bottom bearings are load bearing. Ideally, the bearings should have been part of the outer/rotating assembly to distribute wear.

  • @danswift5257
    @danswift5257 Před rokem

    Cap off inside and grease will stay inside for the bearings, and you could use some type of parking brake assembly type for the rear brake

  • @deezydame
    @deezydame Před rokem +1

    It has a hub, a very big one. It would be cool to just have a roller set on top that the rim rings ride on and thats all the rim rides on.

  • @json8172
    @json8172 Před rokem

    that looks so trippy. nice work guys!

  • @TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA
    @TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA Před rokem +1

    Ok to make them driven. You'd have to mount them the way you see those electric hubless wheels that have the motor in them. You'd had to have the axles pretty much up against the inside of the ring with a pressure plate or bearing to keep it in contact with the wheel so it would send power to it or use a set of gears. As for non driven like the back id say change the bearings so they make no noise also add a cover over the inside of the ring so dirt etc doesn't get down into the groves

    • @bgbthabun627
      @bgbthabun627 Před rokem

      i like your ideas, and may i add that a set of gears are unnecessary, because a traction drive would work just fine. I envision several motors mounted in such a way that they would engage the traction surface. also a braking ring that is mounted onto the wheel, with a caliper mounted inside would work nicely.

    • @terasestHammasratas
      @terasestHammasratas Před rokem +1

      also, they could try to seal the back wheels and fill it with engine/transmission oil or grease to reduce the friction between the bearings and wheels. the wheel wouldn't need to be filled all the way, because the rolling wheel would distribute the oil or grease

  • @socoisaaleatoria7294
    @socoisaaleatoria7294 Před rokem +2

    Basicamente vocês estão transformando uma roda em um grande rolamento 😂 um abraço do Brasil 🇧🇷

  • @ILOVEBACONBOY2018
    @ILOVEBACONBOY2018 Před rokem +1

    Best channel ever, didnt even know you had games on android.

  • @stevensimpson3252
    @stevensimpson3252 Před rokem

    modify disk brake calipers to fit over and around the wheel and use the red area as the disc/rotor

  • @anibalbabilonia1867
    @anibalbabilonia1867 Před rokem

    👌😂👍this guy’s crazy invention’s and automotive experiments are awesome!

  • @bargainbin22
    @bargainbin22 Před rokem +1

    Ok ideal here. What if you made a set of wheel using heavy duty springs as spokes. It would also act as part of the suspension.

    • @jacobmueller2533
      @jacobmueller2533 Před rokem

      czcams.com/video/xG2mbL4QyZQ/video.html

    • @jamms992
      @jamms992 Před rokem

      They did that last year

    • @bargainbin22
      @bargainbin22 Před rokem

      @@jamms992 Guess I missed it. I will check the back videos. Thanks

  • @gr33n357
    @gr33n357 Před rokem +2

    Try using scateboard wheel instead of naked bearings

  • @rupe53
    @rupe53 Před rokem

    just waiting for the first piece of gravel to get into that bearing area.... gonna make a racket!

  • @DoktorJeep
    @DoktorJeep Před rokem

    I just love these guys

  • @metroidking5484
    @metroidking5484 Před rokem +1

    It would become self polishing once enough sand and rock get in those hubs.

  • @KevRalph
    @KevRalph Před rokem +1

    Great videos is always. Let's not let politics getting away of people who just love to have fun with their cars. Cheers

  • @xjoelportox
    @xjoelportox Před rokem

    You could fit a drum brake inside and use the steel wheel bed as the breaking surface

  • @carlredbird3054
    @carlredbird3054 Před rokem

    Thought you would do plexiglass inside the wheel, with drilled out lug mounts
    Remember seeing it done with a custom hayabusa motorcycle

  • @calculator1841
    @calculator1841 Před rokem

    *Attach drive shaft to one bearing, but chain-drive link all the bearings, that'll get all four wheels going!*

  • @steveb1739
    @steveb1739 Před rokem

    Awesome stuff guys! It would be nice if the Landlord / Property owner fixed up that alleyway and put proper surfacing and drainage in. Place looks very Third World as it is.

  • @thedarkknight1971
    @thedarkknight1971 Před rokem +1

    MAYBE next time use those Rubber trolley wheels (that have a ball bearing in the centre) or cart wheels (I have some on a 'Dolley' under my Mrs tumble dryer and chest freezer (as she sits that next to a cupcoard) so she can move it about to access said cupboard, find some small enough though and replace those ball bearings with the rubber trolley wheels. THAT'LL quieten them down. ALSO.. It's ONE way to 'JACK UP' your car (weld the 'Wheel guides' at a more steeper angle! Hahaha Now do the front and you'll have a 'WHOLEY JACKED UP CAR!' hahahaha
    😎🇬🇧

  • @lesklower7281
    @lesklower7281 Před rokem

    What a cool look will it catch on all you need is some sort of brake and there obviously no hand brake your neighbors at the industrial units must think what the next crazy thing Garage 54 will come up with

  • @drshoots101
    @drshoots101 Před rokem

    Oooo try make them on the drive tires with brakes. Your can use brake rotors like on the front wheel of Buell sport bikes.

  • @farhankhan-dh2tu
    @farhankhan-dh2tu Před rokem

    Good job sir just need to cover that hole with transparent acrylic so no dirt or water gets in the main part is there are no brakes at the rear😟

  • @christaylor2168
    @christaylor2168 Před rokem

    Very cool futuristic even.

  • @cevansinz
    @cevansinz Před rokem

    That looks pretty rad.

  • @cdrogers72
    @cdrogers72 Před rokem

    8:01 You could easily make them chain driven like the cars of the early 1900’s.

  • @MrAmrmnabil
    @MrAmrmnabil Před rokem

    Version 2 of the tiers are much better. Waiting for front hollow tires.

  • @Hans-yb5jc
    @Hans-yb5jc Před rokem

    Only in Russia. This DIY mentality is something very specific to most ex-communist countries, and also Africa. It's just great and you guys made it into a very entertaining show. Keep up the good work and God Bless !

  • @BlackPill-pu4vi
    @BlackPill-pu4vi Před rokem

    It would be complicated but, all four wheels can be done this way. How to make it move?
    Make the two rear wheels ELECTRIC. Get rid of the transmission and driveline. Mount a large belt-drive pulley on the inside of each wheel so it's not easily visible. Above and out of sight, each drive wheel gets its own electric motor.
    Mount two BIG alternators on the Lada engine. They will each charge a 12V battery which will drive the two electric motors for the rear wheels. Each electric motor will either be controlled by a high current rheostat or a golf cart speed controller.
    How to stop the car? With the hubs gone, Vlad will have to make the brake switch control four relays, to feed four solenoids, which drive scrub brakes against the inside of the wheel rim. That will require bolting a cylindrical liner to hide the bearings and give the solenoid something to push against. It' won't stop very well but, it SHOULD stop!
    If all goes well, it will run entirely on an electric drive and will look totally clean.

  • @Marc83Aus
    @Marc83Aus Před rokem

    It turned out great. if you want to make these powered you'll probably want a much larger wheel diameter, that will give you more room for mounting whatever you're using to power it. You'll want to use larger roller bearings instead of those little ones you used, and I have one idea for how you might power it, basically running the axle onto 2 more axles inserted into the 'hub' running against the tire rail you have inside. Its difficult to explain. But doing it that way should retain the correct direction of force, otherwise you would have to drive in reverse. Alternatively use a chain drive, a motorcycle chain could easily run against a sprocket mounted on the wheel.

    • @dalabu8260
      @dalabu8260 Před rokem

      We got expert in the house 😂😂😂

    • @rudolphbondefangerer5513
      @rudolphbondefangerer5513 Před rokem

      Or use a chain.

    • @Marc83Aus
      @Marc83Aus Před rokem

      @@rudolphbondefangerer5513 Yeah the chain is how i saw most of the bicycle builds did it.

  • @aspopulvera9130
    @aspopulvera9130 Před rokem

    All they had to do is reinforce it while keeping it neat and also they are the first ones to try and make a hubless car wheels

  • @38911bytefree
    @38911bytefree Před rokem

    Another great vid. You are killing it !!!!!!!!!!!

  • @PREDATEURLT
    @PREDATEURLT Před rokem

    If you would make inner metal ring with gear tooth and shaft/axle with gear at the and it could be driven wheels.

  • @joe125ful
    @joe125ful Před rokem

    Edit:Now add sport thin tires and maybe some LED inside too!

  • @SunnnyDay
    @SunnnyDay Před rokem

    A brake rotor of some type, integrated into the existing hub, heavier, sealed bearings....That's the ticket !!