Logan - Caravan Of Garbage
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- We're finishing off the Wolverine Trilogy with what's considered its strongest entry, Logan. A reflection on aging, loss, grief, parenthood and what it means to stab a bunch of people with your clone daughter. Terrific performances all round and an incredible ending to Hugh Jackman's tenure as the titular character. It's a shame we'll never see him again because he died. Thanks for checking out our Caravan Of Garbage review
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It is crazy that Wolverine has been in 10 movies and his arc in 5 of them is someone asking for his help and him going "I'm no hero!"
Well, you see, His arc goes like this - Someone asks him to be a hero, he says no, then he reluctantly does some heroics, remembers how much he doesn't like it, and tries to retire again.
@@epicbruhmoment6985 people like repetition. Look at how many people complain about what they did to the Hulk. They just want a mindless monster, rampaging over and over again.
To be fair that’s also wolverine in the comics most of the time too lmao.
Like some kind of… Shane
@@TheJesselopez1981It's not people who love repetition. It's the studios. The executives who run Hollywood want a safe return on investment. If something works once, keep doing it.
The prize is the grand return of guy who shouts Rodney but on a bigger Statue of Liberty
the guy who shouts rodney also looks like sabertooth... connection?
Yes bring him back
Rodney!
James is the JJ Abrams of jokes. Masterful set up of Thoughts and Prizes and absolutely no idea how to pay it off.
Like JJ, he leaves that up to his fans about whom he cares not a jot.
@@Triliflops his joke this time is an actual mystery box.
James: How do you feel about Double Jackman?
Me, in my car at nine am, all by myself: Two Jackman!
Twobert Jackman
Corn of Cobman
Wolverine but in The Prestige. He guts Christian Bale after the death of his wife. 20 minutes in and out.
@@patrickpjsullivanYeah but then there wouldn't be the classic teeth acting that Maso liked
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep Paraphrasing but of love James saying "you killed his wife how 'bout ya back up a bit".
Bloody hell, Lawrence did an amazing job on this video. The claw stab at Logrivia and the healing was the icing on the cake.
The final prize is the return of the Rodney! compilation and green trivia.
Fun fact the original Rodney was named after his great great grand piano which was painted blue after being inspired by the working title Blue Harvest for Star Wars Return of the Jedi
and blue harvest
RODNEYYYYY
Bring it back!
Yesssss
Maybe the prizes were the friends we made along the way
Maybe the prizes were the thoughts we had along the way, not me though I never have any thoughts when watching these videos
Wouldn't that be nice
no...couldn't be that
I didn't make any
Na, thats the one piece
The prize should totally be the Snake Eyes review or a CoG episode on it.. So we'll obviously win next week and everyone should rewatch the film in preparation for that.
The movie where he gets his signature snake eyes? Sign me up! Maybe we'll even see how he got those luscious snake lips.
@@oscarm4095 No, it's the film where he loses at a dice game!
GI Joe or Nicholas Cage? Lol
This
They already did Snake Eyes. You missed it.
Something I found interesting about the production of this movie is that James Mangold tried to make sure the sets were untouched between takes. This was difficult with the outdoor sections, with the wind shifting the foliage around. He had several members of the crew set up a large tarp to harvest what scene integrity they could between takes. By coincidence the tarp was a shade of blue to match the skies in the background, leading to the working title of this movie being “Blue Harvest.”
Unbelievable 😂
Yep, this comment wins!
I knew what this was after the first two words
I fall for this every god dam time and I love it
Took me until the word harvest to realize where this was going
I saw this in theaters, and it was the strangest experience. Everyone there seemed to be expecting a standard marvel movie, so they were laughing all the way through
I specifically remember the scene where he was beating up the truck everyone was losing their minds, and all I could think was, "What the heck is wrong with you all? He just lost one of his closest friends and had to bury him on his own."
I remember when I saw it in theaters one scene people laughed at was when he died and it showed Laura crying with snot coming out of her nose
i mean that is a funny scene in a dark sorta way. Obviously the context behind the scene is tragic but the scene itself, a man angrily beating a broken down car with a shovel and the immediately collapsing from exhaustion, is funny.
@@thewerewolff7248Not really. I think it’s just a reflection of the brain rot our world faces, and any sanctity of life has just drastically diminished in recent years.
Remember when The Office (UK) came out and everyone in Hollywood was like, "get Ricky Gervais in everything?" Only to realise their mistake and that it was actually Stephen Merchant who should have gotten all the roles.
@@GroundhogJay I think you mean Carl Pilkington should have gotten all the roles. He’s an icon.
@@GroundhogJay Gervais’ performance in The Office is still pretty amazing. But it’s Merchant’s writing that made that show work. Turns out Ricky is just as much of a prick in real life as the characters he portrays, where as Steven is just a really funny bloke.
@@MitchJT Touché. I can't really dispute either of those points.
Money for old rope.
@@MrOtistetrax Stephen is amazing and very underappreciated
My dad passed away a few weeks after this movie came out and since then seeing X23 hold her dads hand at the end hurts even more.
Cried just reading this comment. So sorry for your loss. It made me so sad rewatching this last night to think about how Laura never had any other moment to call her father "daddy" and give him a hug except for his dying moments.
The XCU also never did Daken, and the movie doesn't explore his grief over losing Rogue apart from one moment where he sees her in the comic and looks sad. So it hit extra extra hard seeing him give Laura that final advice and her crying.
Dafne Keen is a goddamn superstar and I'm #JeckiJam for life
The turning of the cross to an X was SOOOOO GOOD
Yeah about that lol 😂😂
I thought that was really heavy handed ngl lmao
What a nice 'post-apocalypse'!!
Casinos. Comic Books. Working hospitals. Boats are still on sale.
It was only an apocalypse for mutants
Robo self driving trucks almost killing you, energy drinks altering your DNA too much corn. So not too far off from now 😅
So, new vegas?..
An apocalypse doesn’t HAVE to divulge into mad max everytime.
@@Yan-tz9pn new Vegas is set over 200 years later. Irrelevant
@@goldenfiberwheat238 still technically post apocalypse.
Were technically living in a post apocalypse, since the apocalypse that killed the dinosaurs happened in the past lol
I've only seen First Class and Logan. Based on James rants about the timeline over the years, I feel comfortable keeping it at just those 2 movies.
They're probably the best ones tbh
Days of Future Past is a pretty awesome one too. Not as perfect as those two but the performances there are insane.
Days of future past is probably the best one and x2 isn’t too bad.
I’d say I’d rank from best to worst
Days of future past
Logan
X2
First class
The wolverine
X3
Rise of apocalypse
X1
Dark phoenix
Xmen origins
Days of future past is not good. It was frustrating, dull and disappointing and marks the start of the downward spiral by starting a number of trends eg overly focused on mystique not because of her character but the actor trending, decade hoping, ditching characters established in previous movies so it felt like things never progressed.
It is a movie with a lot of great scenes but it is not a great or even good movie.
We didn’t win any prizes, but at least James has us in his thoughts
I won a boat!
Some stoner nicked it tho'.
Yeah, but they're bad thoughts. He mocks us, he hates us!
A true prize would be covering the High School Musical series for caravan of garbage
Its so sad we didnt get Indiana Jones fighting his younger cgi self
That movie was close to being great but the pacing was off, it felt too fetchquesty, and they wasted the whole time travel bit at the end. Still a million times better than Crystal Skull.
@@spaceghostcqc2137I really enjoyed the twist that it was just a map to that one particular moment. I didn't want them to just be travelling back into WWII for shenanigans. Maybe that's why people didn't connect with it as much. It feels very much like a thematic counterpoint to Logan more so than an Indiana Jones movie. But I'm absolutely fine with that. Loved it.
YET.
Thank you for covering this trilogy! I wish there were other movies with my favorite character Wolverine, but I’m glad he at least got to spend some time with the bald guy in this one.
@mrblickles he is my favorite character too, and it's spelled Wolferine, because he has the powers and haircut of a wolf.
I watched the X-Men trilogy and then Origins and then this within the span of a few days and it really does feel like a wasted opportunity to not have ever gone FULL X-Men with it at all. Though between '97, Deadpool and Wolverine, and possibly Secret Wars, Marvel seems to be giving us exactly that.
I like that it was Dafne and Hughs decision to have X-23 only speak Spanish when she talks to Logan.
Originally she was gonna speak English when she wasn't otherwise mute, but Hugh thought it would be interesting if he had to understand her from context clues.
Leading to the working title of this film being Blue Harvest.
@@MitchJTnah this isn't the one.
The Hugh/Richard E Grant joke from early in the vid scrambled by brain and I thought you meant Hugh Grant decided X-23 would speak Spanish to Logan
except she doesn't only speak spanish. She speaks lots of english to logan. "charles says you are dying. That you want to die" "yeah what else he say?" "not to let you" and "you were having a nightmare" "do you have nightmares?" "si people hurt me" "mine are different. i hurt people" and then of course theres "such a nice man" and "then i'll be fine". Hell i think she speaks more english to him than spanish
When logan says "so this is how it feels", what does everyone think he meant? Having a family? Feeling true love? Succeeding in being a hero? Actual death?
Yes.
All of them
Correct
Peace
Winning thoughts and prizes
I think one of the big things helping this movie was that it was the first movie where we get a R rated Wolverine going full berserker rage.
the prize for thoughts and prizes should be the return of blue harvest joke
we did this last week mate, we're trapped in his twisted maze forever just like Mason foolishly thinking that Joker will not appear in the quizzes
Guys, I didn't mind the effin but the jeffin was a bit much.
I've long held that Days of Future Past is the best X-Men as a movie, but Logan is the best movie that is X-Men. A layered film dealing with trauma, aging, legacy and family, with rewarding action that contributes to the narrative and fanservice that doesn't feel like winks and nods. Keene is a great actress, and any flaws in her performance are covered by editing to make her the heart of the movie. A powerful sendoff to a character that for many years has just wanted to die.
DOFP is the best X-Men movie Logan is the best Wolverine movie
My favourite scene in this movie is when Hugh Jackman looks threateningly at the audience and says "There are no new mutants, understand?"
Really sums up The New Mutants
I feel that the needle wolverine sticks himself with is symbolic of the chicken and broccoli he had to eat. nothing to do with loads of gear.
Did Hugh Jackman get super roided up? I recently shotgunned the X-Men Trilogy, then watched Origins Wolverine and Logan and tbh it never seemed particularly like that was the case.
Maybe it's the middle movies where he looks more roided.
“It’s….its got water…..😢” *gets angry and shovels the shit out of his truck*
I enjoyed that Professor X basically becomes a Psyduck
Dementia is a helluva thing.
My headcanon for the whole Logan has his memories, is that prof x was holding back in x2 and could restore his memories whenever
That's a good theory. I just figured that after X2, he just learned about his old identity which would have been government-created in the 70s and assumed it again because it would be easier for legal reasons than crafting a new one.
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep He does seem to still go by Logan so that's what I assumed to
The comment about people in the 2030's being jealous of someone who lives in an upturned grain silo in the desert is probably going to age like a fine wine.
FUN FACT: in an earlier draft of the script Calibans part in the movie was originally given to nightcrawler but was then changed after back and forth disagreements between the director and makeup department over the shade of blue for the nightcrawler makeup which then led to the working title of this film being blue harvest which is coincidentally the same title as the original Star Wars from 1977
A "Cerebro" look into someones soul.
Well done
The 4 Alien movies? Prometheus and Covenant erasure is happening and I am onboard
They are actually erasing only Alien and Aliens
I love that about Logan (that and it’s got one of the best trailers ever) it’s meta af. The movies we watched were just movies, the comics were just comics. This is the reality of that world. And to have that chemistry between Jackman and Stewart over nearly 20 years - it does elevate it above just a superhero swan song for the most part.
Logan capping his god knows how many villan mid rant is still the highlight of this masterpiece
I think the punchline for Thoughts and Prizes should be Blue Harvest. Really bring us back full-circle.
Logan will forever be one of the best superhero movies ever made.
Can't believe James said Double Jackman instead of TWO JACKMAN
“I’m no hero” LMAOO
*proceeds to inject himself with a high dose of rage in order slaughter human cyborg assholes who are trying to kill his daughter and all her little mutant friends*
Assume you’ll say it’s overrated. But it’s one of my favourite superhero movies ever. Most realistic
Some thoughts even though I love this movie and think it's a pretty perfect ending for Wolverine:
1. I always thought it would've been better to bring Liev Schreiber back as Sabertooth instead of doing a Logan clone. Hugh Jackman acting against himself just reminds of Jean Claude Van Damme, who couldn't stop doing that in his movies (Double Impact, Timecop, Maximum Risk, Replicant). Though I admit I ate up all the stupid cheese from most of JCVD's movies when he was in his prime.
2. I love the fact that Boyd Holbrook is channeling Val Kilmer's "Tombstone" Doc Holiday performance in this movie. It's just instantly compelling, and just plain works.
3. I would pay all the money to see someone re-score the final burial moments of this movie to a version of the cartoon X-Men theme that was sad in the style of the voices like the theme to James Horner's "Glory" or Hans Zimmer and Lisa Gerrard's "Gladiator". That would be perfection.
They never mention how much pain Laura is going to be in her entire life as her bones try to go while covered in admantium
If I recall correctly it’s not her whole skeleton it’s just her claws?
@@greg-shoes Correct.
She didn't get the full coating in the comics until she was an adult.
I'm officially campaigning for the glorious return of blue harvest
The real Prize Is the thought of winning a prize in the famous "Thoughts and prizes" section.
Finally Mr. Sunday had the guts to call this movie garbage. He is the only one on the internet brave enough to do so. Speak your truth sir. Speak your truth.
3:47 Like this theory because I like the idea of Professor X just being like Young Justice S2 Miss Martian where she reads people's minds but turns them into a vegetable while doing it. Then she gets asked how to fix it after doing it to the wrong guy and goes like "idk"
This is my ‘watch with my daughter every Father’s Day movie’ it makes me cry like twice every time
Had a terrible day at work, and now I’m feeling good seeing a new Caravan of Garbage vid as soon as I clock out
At least you’re able to work
I mean, I feel like the natural end to the thoughts & prizes bit is that James finally awards the prizes, but just to himself. He has emphasized how ANYONE can win the prizes multiple times.
"Hugh Jackman" is a space alien's second, much better attempt at coming up with a name for their human alter ego.
Never thought about Xavier as not having perfect control. From him being one of the lesders/faculty I think it makes sense that he has the most control/developed his powers the most.
But you could do a lot of stories with him not having strong control
I wonder why this is one of the least controversial "beloved character is old and regretful" movies. The only other contender I can immediately think of is Rocky Balboa/The Creed films. Even Mangold's Indiana Jones is thematically and stylistically very similar to Logan, but more controversial.
I think because it's loosely based on the (beloved?) "old man logan" comic book run.
Just my thoughts, but maybe it's because Wolverine comes from a franchise known for branching timelines and different versions, so it's not actually the definitive end of the character. We the audience accept that Wolverine as a character can still appear and not be beholden to this ending. With Rocky, he gets to still be a badass and go out on his own terms with strength rather than a fart, and when he gets a successor it's not done by degrading him and his importance as a character. It didn't have that modern Disney writing problem of "Hey audience, remember that thing you like? It's dumb and old, and never made a difference." Luke Skywalker, as a Disney property, can never avoid the ending and storyline they gave him. Star Wars has never been about alternate universes or timelines, so it's harder to have hope that we can avoid an ending where his legacy is failure.
It's probably because it's a superhero western.
Remember, this came out around the time superhero fatigue was just starting
People wanted something new, and this was new.
A sad superhero western, featuring the one X-Men who's the most tragic and depressing member.
Maybe it's because it's a good movie and the other ones you mentioned are bad.
@@DaveVaderify Personally I don't enjoy Millar's work and I think Logan and CA: Civil War are both massive improvements on their loose inspirations, but I don't know what the consensus is these days
Being a big fan fan of the origin story of X-23 that you mentioned, Dafne Keen totally nails the character.
I will also say, from a personal stand point, this feels like a perfect passing of the torch of a character. Like in the movie canon, audiences now expect Dafne Keen to be the new Wolverine, and it doesn't feel forced due to an actor aging out or wtv. It has the same energy as Hailee Steinfeld as the next Hawkeye, and fits, rather than the previous actor/character being forced out. They have managed to conclude their run as a character and it's time to move on sort of thing.
Problem is, they waited too long!
wym?? the hawkeye show sucked immensely, its not even comparable to Logan in a passing of the torch sense
What I love about Logan is it isn’t like a typical comic book movie
The prize is a compilation of every time the Rodney compilation played, which will essentially be a montage of 100+ Rodney’s
@@IantheDugan the prize will be the thoughts, and the thoughts will be the prizes.
@@TheJesselopez1981 Ah see that's where you're incorrect, bud. You mistakenly thought thoughts prizes, but surprise surprise the prize pries through thoughts, though prizes are thought prized in the eyes of the prize-holder..
Great video! Just wanted to point something as I understand it. I think the bullet wasn't for Logan to kill himself if things didn't go according to plan - that was the plan.
He wanted to buy the boat so he and Charles could hop on, go to the middle of nowhere and Charles could live his last moments and die of a seizure without hurting anybody but Logan and then he would kill himself. Logan isn't willing to kill him or have him killed but also sees no end to Xavier as a threat and wants him at least to go on "natural" terms. Pretty grim.
I think what made Logan beloved by the fans as opposed to how the Last Jedi was received is probably because it's actually good
Why do I love these guys so much and for so long? Also wow, I love the editors too. You're all great and thanks for existing. Yeah you, whichever one is reading this. Or an AI, probably an AI.
It would be interesting if they watched this one for a movie commentary because I can never get through this film without crying.
"Thoughts and Prizes" suggest a game is involved, a game like Craps. And perhaps the most famous of rolls in Craps is the 'double one': Snake Eyes.
This whole bit is the long-form wind-up to the review. Finally, THE review.
We made it, folks. #ApexContent
Lol your on to something
I actually really like the idea of an older Logan and Scott (having to keep his eyes shut) traveling together
Ah nothing better then watching my favourite movies be torn apart by middle-aged Australian men
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Does them being Australian have any relevance? If they were murican or English would you have noted their nationality?..
@@Yan-tz9pn I'm Australian and I say yes!
@@Yan-tz9pnstop being offended for others, sjw
Here’s a thought: Mason’s skeptical view of Thoughts and Prizes takes him out of the running for the prizes
I can't believe how hard Patrick Stewart carries Professor X role that it created a false public perception. He's not the benevolent leader like how it was portrayed in the movies.
The punchline of "Thoughts and Prizes" is that James has been reading it wrong this whole time and the section was actually meant to be "Ports and Thighses" where James provides a selection of fortified wines, paired with delicately seasoned chicken thighs for Mason to enjoy.
"Hey, we're gonna have infinite multiverses. Each one is noticeably different, so we need a way to separate each of them out. How long should the code for each multiverse be?"
"Five numbers is plenty."
Oh my god everything around the gravestone fucking killed me, amazing.
"Thoughts and Prizes" huh?!?
😂
I imagine both timelines across all the films, and Logan and Charles are the only ones who remember both. Gives it more gravitas for me
That beginning joke is basically how I am lmao. I haven’t watched a single X-men movie, but loved Hugh as Logan, with Logan being one of my favorite super hero movies
They could have given clone wolverine the comic accurate costume since he’s a product and everything, that would have been fun
Such a fantastic send off for Wolverine.
A truly great film in its own right
LOGAN ( 2017 ) A MASTERPIECE ☆☆☆☆☆
I discovered this channel during covid. I don't even think you guys will know how you guys kept my vibe high.
13:00 - Seeing that bit inspired me to try and pick up the X-Men theme by ear on my clarinet, and in fumbling some notes, I made the realization that Rouge's theme from the first X-Men movie is the same notes and key as the cartoon theme, with almost the same intro progression. RIP, Michael Kamen. You were an amazing composer.
The punchline to thoughts and prizes will be the return of that one guy yelling “Rodney” over and over
I wonder what next week’s episode will be? I hope it’s out of this world!
Honestly a choir vocalizing the OG theme would’ve went hard
Thoughts and Prizes is my favorite long running bit on this show maybe ever. I laugh out loud every time
The prize should be a supercut of every time James fooled Maso with the movie Joker and/or High School Musical.
I really thought I was going to win 'Thoughts and Prizes' this week... maybe next week 😂
Something I liked about the R rating is that it meant the fight choreography wasn’t just the normal ton of spin kicks that don’t connect. Or five minutes of Blade-style clicky-clack swords. The claws needed to end up in someone’s chest, so it was harder to just elide things.
Bless you Nick Mason for still believing that James has thought of a punchline when he starts a recurring bit
Donald Pierce is such an incredible villain. The actor who plays him also played another incredible comic book villain in the Sandman. The Corinthian. But also I’m just a sucker for prosthetic hands. They look so cool.
Imagine this: James is eating a cheese toasty right before recording but stops half way through after only a couple of bites.
Right as the final Thoughts and Prizes segment ends he just totally drops the energy from like "THE CORRECT ANSWER-" to "-hey do you want to finish off this cheese toasty?" and point to his plate, with zero persona. Mason will look at the bite taken out of it and be reasonably confused, probably say no thanks, and then BAM
"Wow, you finally won something and you just decline thats noble of you." and then James can take another bite and do the outro.
Or he just gets the prize of a half eaten cheese toasty, worthy for his efforts I'd say.
I think the prize for thoughts and prizes should be playing exactly half of the clip of the guy who yells rodney on a single videos trivia section
Rare example of a trilogy that's gotten BETTER with each subsequent movie
Return of man who shouts Rodney. That's the prize we want
Honestly, I think Caliban is one of the best characters in this movie. I loved the acting he did. Great great
When I was in 8th grade I was leaving the theater after falling asleep during a movie a couple months before Logan came out and my mom made me take a picture with the big cardboard thing for this movie because my name is Logan, it’s a very strange photo, I’m basically asleep standing up in it. Then I got a terrible concussion and couldn’t see Logan till almost the end of its theatrical run. These are my stories around the movie that I share a name with, great movie by the way
Next week's Trivia title suggestions:
-Trivalien
-Trivomorph
-Green (blood) Trivia
“Thought & Prizes” payoff has to be the Snake Eyes review. I don’t understand how comedy works, but it must sound and look like this
James I know you have a laundry list of prizes for the ultimate payoff prize at the culmination of thoughts and prizes, but I thought I’d offer a few ideas
-a throwback Halloween picture of James and/or maso
-a 30 second snake eyes COG
-a sweepstakes to win your house
-a rad new shirt design for us to buy (capitalism is the best prize)
4:08 This is what I've been saying for years!! Professor X *is* a steamroller!!! SCRiBE The Verbalist has a song called Stan Clark where he posits that Xavier is just a manipulative psychic masquerading as a mutant (presumably so that young impressionable mutants will trust him).
"I sneezed and I killed everyone."🤣 I sure hope my tears of laughter didn't cause an earthquake! Still the best X-Men movie in my opinion.
To me, Days of Future Past is the greatest X-Men movie ever made. But Logan is the best movie about Wolverine we will ever see.
Deadpool and Wolverine has confirmed Logan is in the main X-Men timeline
I love that Maso says "these are all optimizing those search engine results aren't they?" when it's all behind the paywall.* 😆
*Though oddly, the X-Men Never Go Back (along with Doom) is visible even when logged out. But none of the other X-Men stuff they mentioned is. And even that is still unlisted in CZcams, so you can't search for it here.