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Scriabin - Five Preludes op. 74 (Emil Gilels)

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  • čas přidán 22. 03. 2009
  • Live performance (1984)

Komentáře • 204

  • @parislovesrachmaninoff
    @parislovesrachmaninoff Před 11 měsíci +14

    The first prelude is my favourite. Scriabin was so innovative

  • @eugenepashch5213
    @eugenepashch5213 Před 7 lety +38

    Lord, I played No. 4 as a child...revisiting it 20 years later is bringing up so much memories...almost surreal.

  • @belleepoque4597
    @belleepoque4597 Před 10 lety +133

    Why did I wait so long to begin listening to Scriabin? I have been searching for piano music that sounds like this for a long time. This is simply amazing. The fact that Emil Gilels is interpreting is a huge plus. Scriabin was obviously completely his own man.

    • @themusicalgerbil192
      @themusicalgerbil192 Před 10 lety +4

      Same here. I am only today (his death day) listening to Scriabin properly for the first time, despite my love of piano music, especially by Chopin and Rachmaninoff.

    • @brucehutchison3946
      @brucehutchison3946 Před 5 lety

      Where were you when I was 3 years old!,

    • @metteholm4833
      @metteholm4833 Před 4 lety +4

      Have you heard, what his ten years old son wrote? WOW! Sadly he drowned in Dnepr at eleven.

    • @metteholm4833
      @metteholm4833 Před 4 lety

      Have you ever heard, what his ten year old son wrote? WOW! Sadly he drowned in the Dnepr at eleven.

  • @Barichter74318
    @Barichter74318 Před 11 měsíci +10

    Late Scriabin is so fascinating

  • @sweetdude3000
    @sweetdude3000 Před 11 lety +166

    I ended up playing this opus and now it makes sense. I feel evil playing it though. Did not make for good Christmas music during the holidays at the family house. People were telling me to play something less dramatic

    • @KeepinItCrispy
      @KeepinItCrispy Před 6 lety +54

      HA! Story of my life. I think I've depressed my family permanently with hundreds of playings and practice sessions of Scriabin and Rachmaninoff. People don't want music with depth and power and challenge; they want mostly bubble gum. Oh well. Let's keep playing the greats.

    • @bobjob7924
      @bobjob7924 Před 4 lety +1

      @@KeepinItCrispy Christ

    • @ronl7131
      @ronl7131 Před 3 lety +10

      Hahaha; my older sister obtained a 1920 Steinway M for her son. Son is now working pro jazz pianist and composer(has PhD Music Theory) . At family gatherings my brother & nephew & I would take turns giving the Steinway a workout. Nephew with jazz, my bro had several Chopin etudes , op53 polonaise , some Rach under his fingers. DeFalla Ritual Fire Dance & many many other pieces. He’s much more advanced than I am (tremendous sight-reader) I’d play some Scriabin, couple Rach pieces. Bach-Busoni chorale. For a change of pace and as an attempt to be more disciplined, I learned Brahms op118 #3. As I was playing this at one party, my niece looked into the music room and said, “ oh it’s you playing, I thought it was Joe “ (my brother)...😀 I took it as a compliment, since it must have sounded pretty good; not my usual jagged performance....

    • @kotopec4978
      @kotopec4978 Před 2 lety +6

      Don't blame them, this op. is extremely complex and dark, great music without a doubt, but I don't think it fits Christmas night greatly)

    • @peabrane8067
      @peabrane8067 Před 2 lety +2

      Truly a silent night

  • @desmondesluce6758
    @desmondesluce6758 Před 8 lety +73

    Five Preludes Op.74:
    00:00 I.
    01:30 II.
    03:00 III.
    04: 05 IV.
    05:30 V.

  • @butros51
    @butros51 Před 7 lety +34

    This was his last testament. Going backwards from here is also interesting. He insated a new theory of using the tritone as an instrumental interval to move his harmonies. The most successful composers always heard this.

  • @DihelsonMendonca
    @DihelsonMendonca Před 3 lety +11

    I like to listen to this series while listening to Op 67 series at the same time ( Yes, 2 pieces at the same time ), I hear some spectacular and weird sound combinations.

  • @davidrehak3539
    @davidrehak3539 Před 5 lety +45

    Alekszandr Szkrjabin:Öt prelűd Op.74
    1.Doloroso, sconvolgente 00:10
    2.Molto lento, contemplativo 01:31
    3.Allegro drammatico 03:04
    4.Lento, vago, indeciso
    04:09
    5.Orgoglioso, bellicoso 05:32
    Emil Gilelsz-zongora

  • @gerardbegni2806
    @gerardbegni2806 Před 6 lety +15

    The hermetic languge of Scriabin in these preludes which are based upon synthetic scales are perfectly rendered by Gilels. He strictly obesrves the execution guidelines of Scriabin.

  • @hellomate639
    @hellomate639 Před 11 lety +10

    Am I the only person who still gets goosebumbs from these?

  • @federico6485
    @federico6485 Před 4 lety +8

    Scriabin's latter prelude works definitely fits in horror movies, definitely!

  • @SCRIABINIST
    @SCRIABINIST Před 3 lety +13

    Only if he lived longer...

    • @sebastian-benedictflore
      @sebastian-benedictflore Před 3 lety +5

      We may have been able to see the Mysterium if he'd lived til his 90s 😔

    • @na-kun2136
      @na-kun2136 Před 2 lety +3

      @@sebastian-benedictflore that's a questionable statement. I think he would be opressed when Stalin would come. Or highly likely emigrate in Europe(France?)

  • @Singingdolphin101
    @Singingdolphin101 Před 8 lety +21

    Two things: 1. Scriabin was obviously advanced in his artistry far beyond the point of traditional ( even Wagnerian ) harmony. 2. He was a mystic attempting to create flashes of light and shadow with his music, this is understandable given his well-known synesthesia; he would literally see flashes of color when he heard these cords.

    • @MahlayStudios
      @MahlayStudios Před 8 lety +9

      +tharnax Unfortunately there are many composers who like to elevate themselves higher than what their actual level is. Scriabin, on the other hand, had every right to think of himself as a prophet - without him, we would not be enjoying this gorgeous music.

    • @MahlayStudios
      @MahlayStudios Před 8 lety +1

      His synesthesia is confined in Rachmaninoff's Recollections, and the diaries (? i think) of Rimsky-Korsakov.

    • @wattd6602
      @wattd6602 Před 7 lety +3

      No. Wagner was advanced for his time, mid-19th century, but by 1890s - 1900s his harmonic inventions were far surpassed by the work of Mahler and Sibelius, while Scriabin pushed tonality past the breaking point. As in Bartok's, there's still an instinctively worked harmonic centering, that is, you can still feel harmonies tensing and relaxing, more "organic" and accessible than the pantonal revolution of Schoenberg and his school.

    • @raulespejo2587
      @raulespejo2587 Před 7 lety

      I would say, Scriabin keeps a completely functional tonal harmony, but outside of the traditional one with a more open and relaxed restrictions (as long as different chords might work as the tonic).

  • @emyrwyn604
    @emyrwyn604 Před 8 lety +10

    Love this last set of preludes. So feverish and demonic! :)

  • @MrRhiannonsdad
    @MrRhiannonsdad Před 13 lety +24

    The dark side

  • @patrickbarrus8315
    @patrickbarrus8315 Před 5 lety +78

    This feels forbidden

    • @scriabinismydog2439
      @scriabinismydog2439 Před 4 lety +4

      Esoteric and/or occult fits more properly.

    • @erikbreathes
      @erikbreathes Před 3 lety

      @@scriabinismydog2439 No it doesn't.

    • @scriabinismydog2439
      @scriabinismydog2439 Před 3 lety +2

      @@erikbreathes yes it does

    • @erikbreathes
      @erikbreathes Před 3 lety +7

      @@scriabinismydog2439 nevermind my dad just didn't correctly explain to me what the word esoteric means. whoops

    • @danal81
      @danal81 Před 3 lety

      @@scriabinismydog2439 it doesn’t.

  • @DihelsonMendonca
    @DihelsonMendonca Před 3 lety +3

    This is good to listen on a cemetery at midnight. :)

  • @kjeldenbreidenbach3886
    @kjeldenbreidenbach3886 Před 4 lety +8

    In the 5 Preludes Op. 74, Scriabin makes more use out of transpositions of the octatonic scale rather than having very linear/scalar lines; but one can usually see the outline of it. In the beginning of the 4th prelude, we see the soprano line outlining G#-A-B-C-D#-E (h-W-h-A-h). Depending on the desired harmonic cluster, Scriabin will add an augmented step in the scale which in addition adds variety to the modality of the piece.

    • @sebastian-benedictflore
      @sebastian-benedictflore Před 3 lety

      Nice little analysis. The great thing i think I've noticed about Scriabin is that the reason he manages to bring these synthetic scales to life is because he doesn't stick religiously to any certain form of melody or the notes in the scale.

  • @TheRachMan32
    @TheRachMan32 Před 11 lety +22

    I must admit that I am guilty of allowing Scriabin's music to take me to this realm as well. Especially with his later works, where his style became much more original and "obscure" I get this sense of orderly disorder. It's definitely an acquired taste however that not everyone can appreciate immediately, or ever. If you enjoy this type of music though I would highly recommend looking into Dalí's works, you should find them interesting as well.

  • @Dachion
    @Dachion Před 12 lety +11

    " I imagine myself in a dark caffe who everybody says it's apocalyptic but it never ends to everybody's pleasure. "

  • @avaddon4ik
    @avaddon4ik Před 2 lety +4

    No 2 - the best

  • @4hm3dimr4n
    @4hm3dimr4n Před 11 lety +14

    The 1st piece reminds me of the painting: persistence of memory (melted clocks).

  • @4hm3dimr4n
    @4hm3dimr4n Před 11 lety +8

    Yea Scriabin usually takes me to worlds of uncertainties where everything is purposely misplaced in an ordered chaos. Color, along with reality, ceases to exist the way we usually imagine it. There is this literal melting and blending of the two. Psychological episodes where you're lost in hallucinations in your mind also constantly seem to be present in his style as well as drug induced adventures. I don't know much about Dali but what do you think?

  • @Daitsuki294
    @Daitsuki294 Před 5 lety +4

    Pure genius

  • @paulonascimento2943
    @paulonascimento2943 Před 4 lety +5

    Alexander Scriabin (1872 - 1915) foi um compositor russo de complexa biografia17,
    considerado como um dos grandes artistas que conduziram àquela jornada da
    música moderna centro européia em seus rumos para a pós-tonalidade.18 Entre 1890
    até sua morte em 1915, foram marcantes suas inovações alcançadas através de
    harmonias flutuantes, não resolvidas e radicalmente dissonantes, fundadas em
    construções sintéticas e de grande precisão e beleza geométrica [escalas
    octatônicas, de tons inteiros, superposições de 4ªs, etc.] às quais o compositor
    associava um misticismo altamente elaborado. Dentre suas combinações de notas,
    célebre é esse seu “acorde sintético” [dó - fá# - sib - mi - lá - ré ], pois transformou
    radicalmente a sonoridade musical de sua época. (Conhecido também como “acorde
    místico”; “acorde de Scriabin”, ou ainda “arquétipo do profeta Scriabin”).

    • @gentle_goy23432
      @gentle_goy23432 Před 5 měsíci

      Отличное описание. Хороший термин посттональность

  • @lunchmind
    @lunchmind Před 2 lety +8

    I disagree with many of the assessments here. Scriabin's preludes are not "evil". Just surreal and mysterious.

    • @mysterium364
      @mysterium364 Před rokem +1

      I agree. I don't get any scary vibes from any of Scriabin's music.

  • @HarDiMonPetit
    @HarDiMonPetit Před 4 lety +12

    I don't know the personal history of Scriabin. But hearing these darkest preludes one can only imagine the poignant distress this man must have been through. Despair down to the bone...

    • @danal81
      @danal81 Před 3 lety +1

      Nonsense.

    • @roberacevedo8232
      @roberacevedo8232 Před 3 lety +7

      Not really, he was just very creative.

    • @sebastian-benedictflore
      @sebastian-benedictflore Před 3 lety +9

      Actually, his life wasn't a particularly hard one, not even by composers' standards, although by the end of it (when this was composed), he had fallen very ill with blood poisoning. That probably isn't the reason he wrote this music though. He was just very eccentric and was working towards his impossibly epic work, the "Mysterium", so epic that he barely even started on it. However, many of these later works were to be integrated into this great work, likely including these Preludes. Nemtin was a great orchestrator of Scriabin and you can listen to Ashkenazy's recording of "Preparation to the Final Mystery" on various media to hear sections of Scriabin's sonatas and these very Preludes brought to new life.

    • @HarDiMonPetit
      @HarDiMonPetit Před 3 lety +1

      @@sebastian-benedictflore 👍Very instructive : thanks!

  • @Robert63675
    @Robert63675 Před 2 lety

    This mystery is great

  • @peterkocsis7010
    @peterkocsis7010 Před 4 lety +7

    I am against capital punishment , except for those who cough during recitals.

  • @9.14operator5
    @9.14operator5 Před 3 lety +3

    I feel like playing Scriabin in 3AM

  • @doriotclaine
    @doriotclaine Před 14 lety +31

    does it not evoke emotion? this gives me chills honestly and i can't imagine how ones mind could maintain this type of musical thought. Your initial listen to this is perceived as random, however it is more correct to say abstract. There is linearity to this music, there is structure, its just all taking place in a bad dream. the ebb and flow of dissonance with resolution, the essence of emotional evokation through pure sound and harmonic structure is reaching its limits with this music.

    • @Poeme340
      @Poeme340 Před 3 lety

      yes👍

    • @ronl7131
      @ronl7131 Před 3 lety

      Nice description...🙂

    • @danal81
      @danal81 Před 3 lety

      It’s not that “dark”, it’s just abstract and modern, get over yourselves!

    • @doriotclaine
      @doriotclaine Před 3 lety +1

      @@danal81 alright thanks for your input

    • @timcergol963
      @timcergol963 Před 3 lety +1

      @@danal81 in fact it is very dark.

  • @TheRachMan32
    @TheRachMan32 Před 11 lety +8

    I thought that sounded like a work of Dalí!

  • @marmasiotis
    @marmasiotis Před 13 lety

    sooooooo organic!

  • @butros51
    @butros51 Před 7 lety +6

    By the way, one of best interpretors of Scriabin is the illustrious Vladmir Ashenazy. Hats off to the gent. As a conductor and pianist. His 10 Sonatas are hard to beat. Also his version of the Poem of Fire and the piece completed from Nemtin from the last 55 sketch pages of Scriabin that he used to the the Preparation of the Mysterium with choir is absolutely mind blowing!!

    • @philipfletcher8214
      @philipfletcher8214 Před 7 lety +3

      butros51 amrod he plays the sonatas like he has arthritis

    • @ArkEleven1
      @ArkEleven1 Před 6 lety +3

      Check out Igor Zhukov. Gives Ashenazy a run for his money

    • @sebastian-benedictflore
      @sebastian-benedictflore Před 3 lety +1

      He's good for some stuff but I think Gilels is much better for this. Ashkenazy plays these too mechanically and fast.

    • @DynastieArtistique
      @DynastieArtistique Před 10 měsíci +1

      Ashkenazys not even good lmao

    • @MasonArmand
      @MasonArmand Před měsícem +1

      Sofronitsky is the best interpreter of Scriabin, in my opinion.

  • @RogueRotting360
    @RogueRotting360 Před 14 lety +1

    @sweetdude3000 There is plenty of organisation here, in terms of a unifying harmonic language. It is just more challenging and interesting than Scriabin's earlier works.

  • @mashcot
    @mashcot Před 13 lety +4

    @sweetdude3000
    Dude, try reading the chapter on Scriabin in Richard Taruskin's amazing "Music in early twentieth century", it will help you a lot to understand these preludes which are entirely octatonic based. For further reading I recommand George Perle's "Scriabin's self analysis", in The Right Notes. That's really not random notes at all. It's highly structured.

  • @Examantel
    @Examantel Před 5 lety +11

    A half measure missing near the end of Prelude No. 2, but otherwise, an ecstatic performance.

  • @christopherczajasager9030
    @christopherczajasager9030 Před 8 měsíci

    I heard Gilels play this Opus in the Concertgebouw Amsterdam..is this performance taken ftom yhat recital? 😮

  • @user-ow7ed2ip2h
    @user-ow7ed2ip2h Před 2 lety +1

    1:30 2 прелюдия
    3:00 3 прел.
    4:09 4 прел.
    5:31 5 прел

  • @Rickeeey1
    @Rickeeey1 Před 12 lety

    @mashcot
    Also read the Oxford History of Western Music. Best books ever.

  • @Robert63675
    @Robert63675 Před 2 lety +1

    Тайна сия велика есть

  • @wcsxwcsx
    @wcsxwcsx Před 5 lety +1

    Challenging pieces. Gilels does well.

  • @shadowrun45
    @shadowrun45 Před 15 lety +4

    I like his interpretation very much. But why does he play the last chords in No.3 and 5 so short?

    • @sebastian-benedictflore
      @sebastian-benedictflore Před 3 lety +5

      Whilst I agree it's odd, Scriabin himself might actually have dome the same. He also might not lol but I say that for a particular reason. Check out Scriabin's own recording of Op.8 No.12 (Welte-Mignon piano roll)

    • @shadowrun45
      @shadowrun45 Před 3 lety +3

      @@sebastian-benedictflore you're right!

  • @johnschneider8339
    @johnschneider8339 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Charles Ives must have known Scriabin (not personally😉)

  • @lewisbae
    @lewisbae Před 8 lety +7

    5:13 somone's coughing

    • @JoonasD6
      @JoonasD6 Před 6 lety +1

      Many times, sounds strange.

  • @vino122
    @vino122 Před 13 lety

    the start sounds like bergs piano sonata 1

  • @ouriah
    @ouriah Před 2 lety

    1:30

  • @4hm3dimr4n
    @4hm3dimr4n Před 12 lety +1

    It's a new kind of language that takes some getting used to. The most immediate way to "get it" is to create some sort of imagery or emotion that you can relate to the piece. I'll even do that for you.Try Vers la Flamme:
    /watch?v=WlqGkVc29Gw&playnext=1&list=PL068CA1B0E5C07BA2&feature=results_main
    Imagine the beginning chords as someone speaking of the end of times. Then at 1:50 imagine the accompaniment as the slow and seductive movements of a flame that is constantly building in ferocity.

  • @Yubin_Lee_Doramelin
    @Yubin_Lee_Doramelin Před rokem

    It feels like Roslavets (a.k.a. Scriabin "on acid") at this point...

  • @stephenjablonsky1941
    @stephenjablonsky1941 Před 2 lety +1

    Russian mystic atonality at its best! Next stop?

  • @4hm3dimr4n
    @4hm3dimr4n Před 11 lety +4

    Nice to know I'm not completely alone. Would you wanna talk on skype sometime? I'll take the time to look at Dali's works and we can talk from there. Just message me your id or whatever.

  • @DEMIAN-NAIMED
    @DEMIAN-NAIMED Před 7 lety +2

    In 2:30 he misses the first group of the 4 semi-quavers...

    • @YanikFM
      @YanikFM Před 7 lety +2

      off with his head :P

  • @mousikopaigmonas23
    @mousikopaigmonas23 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Messiaen surely was influenced by this.

  • @ThatGuy5331
    @ThatGuy5331 Před 7 lety +3

    I don't understand. Why didn't the pianist play the full value of the notes at the end of the pieces such as the last one. Instead of holding it to the full values he just played it abruptly. Why?

    • @lucasecellofuntimes
      @lucasecellofuntimes Před 3 lety +2

      The short answer, it's convention, and that was how Scriabin likely played it.

    • @sebastian-benedictflore
      @sebastian-benedictflore Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah, whilst I sort of disagree with it, Scriabin himself may well have done the same. Listen to big S's very own recording of his Op.8 No.12

  • @nostromissimo
    @nostromissimo Před 12 lety +2

    I'm not overly fond of this interpretation. What I like about late Scriabin seems to be to a large extent missing here. He doesn't make the most of the demonic tritones, or the knocks of fate and it's not chaotic enough for my taste. Mind you, who am I to criticize Gilels? He's great in just about everything else.

    • @sebastian-benedictflore
      @sebastian-benedictflore Před 3 lety

      I wouldn't call this music chaotic

    • @nostromissimo
      @nostromissimo Před 3 lety

      @@sebastian-benedictfloreare you talking about Gilels or Scriabin? I wouldn't call this performance chaotic, but I'd prefer it if it had more of a sense of it, particularly in movements 3 and 5. I'd like those 2 movements to sound more out of control, but that's just me, I'm not saying what goes.

    • @sebastian-benedictflore
      @sebastian-benedictflore Před 3 lety

      @@nostromissimo I was talking about Scriabin. I don't think his music is chaotic.

    • @nostromissimo
      @nostromissimo Před 3 lety +1

      @@sebastian-benedictfloreI think that although his late works are well structured in a non chaotic way, within that, they often seem to express a sense of chaos to me. I'm not the only one who has noticed this. Read up on Scriabin and you'll see the word 'Chaos' mentioned quite often. I feel it especially in his late works and it is something which attracts me to them. It's okay that you don't, you don't have to feel what I feel. Hopefully though you won't try to convince me that it isn't there, or shouldn't be there. The 5th, 7th and 9th sonatas, Vers la flamme, even the Etude op8 no12 all have moments where there is a sense of everything going out of control and I mean 'chaotic' in that sense. I want to hear that sense that the music is going out of control.

    • @sebastian-benedictflore
      @sebastian-benedictflore Před 3 lety +2

      @@nostromissimo I know what you meant. I just disagree. Funny enough, I've actually played a bunch of those pieces you mentioned and I have also read a lot about Scriabin. I guess it's just a difference in opinion/interpretation but I consider his music narrative and transcendental. However whilst it might be overwhelming, I don't think it is chaotic.

  • @DihelsonMendonca
    @DihelsonMendonca Před 3 lety +2

    The fourth one is so dissonant, I may think the piano is out of tune. Belissimo. I can´t memorize it. Just reading.

  • @sweetdude3000
    @sweetdude3000 Před 14 lety +1

    I just don't "get" this music. I love Scriabin's early works and even play most of it. This just sounds like random notes and random intervals, no organization at all, but I am sure there is much more to it. Can someone help me appreciate these works?

    • @rogierdailly1608
      @rogierdailly1608 Před 5 lety +6

      keep listening, it will come
      to you in time.... AND never leave you after that

    • @CanelonVegano
      @CanelonVegano Před 4 lety +3

      You have to stop listening to melodies and start listening to sounds

    • @Scherzokinn
      @Scherzokinn Před 4 lety +3

      I think you'd like Stockhausen.
      (Jk)

    • @sebastian-benedictflore
      @sebastian-benedictflore Před 3 lety +3

      You're right, there is much more to it. This music uses synthetic scales rather than the usual Greek ones (Ionian, Lydian etc.) or pentatonic and such. How to get into it? Go through Scriabin's music in chronological order. Sonata 2 and 3, then sonata 4 and 5, Poem of ecstasy, op 56 and all of that. Then poem of fire, sonata 7, 6, 9, 8. Vers La Flamme. Then here. The later his music, the more meticulously organised it becomes.

    • @tarikeld11
      @tarikeld11 Před 4 měsíci +1

      This comment was written 14 years ago, do you feel different now about his music?

  • @heckington_spicywinkle
    @heckington_spicywinkle Před 6 lety +4

    edgy

  • @rain-qb2xv
    @rain-qb2xv Před 4 lety

    guys, come listem to my preludes i wrote. no where near this, more tonal but :p

  • @Whatismusic123
    @Whatismusic123 Před 7 dny +1

    amazing pieces, bad performance

  • @HitomiAyumu
    @HitomiAyumu Před 9 lety +5

    I don't feel anything.... It reminds me of heavy metal; totally emotionally empty.

    • @AlejandroSanAntonio
      @AlejandroSanAntonio Před 8 lety +3

      +HitomiAyumu Maybe you don't feel what he was feeling at that moment he wrote it.

    • @HitomiAyumu
      @HitomiAyumu Před 8 lety

      Gabriel San Antonio Well of course. That's what I meant. I have no doubt this appeals to some people.

    • @belleepoque4597
      @belleepoque4597 Před 8 lety +10

      +HitomiAyumu Not all metal is emotionally empty. There is an incredible depth of emotion in this music. Keep trying.

    • @HitomiAyumu
      @HitomiAyumu Před 8 lety +3

      Paul Paradis All I get from heavy metal is political messages and lots of "look at how angry I am".

    • @Resplencemelodi
      @Resplencemelodi Před 8 lety +1

      +HitomiAyumu You clearly have not listened to Devin Townsend Project. Or TIAMAT's Wild Honey Album. Pretty ignorant.