Eliot Coleman has such a wealth of knowledge based on personal experience and observation, combined with a gentle self-deprecating sense of humour. It's a pleasure to listen and learn from him.
I just watched your 2012 video , don't know how many times I must say you just forgot to age and not lost zest ....It is pleasure to watch you with your english sense of humour making over the pond audience laughing...I learned so much and i never get tired listening to you
savedfaves Hello, I’ll throw in my two cents worth :-) I think Elliott Coleman is an American but I think the commenter is an Englander. I think he’s intimating that Elliott Coleman’s style of humor similar to that of the British.
6 buck an hour. I have had a longing to grow my own vegetables. Your ideas are superb and of an excellent value, Just discovered your videos tonight and I am now a subscriber.
The varieties Eliot recommends are available from a number of sources, probably the best is Johnny's Selected Seeds in Albion Maine. They have had a relationship with Eliot for a number of years and also feature tools he has designed. Other sources include Fedco Seeds and Baker Creek.
Excellent. Thanks for posting this. Varieties are obviously key. A couple points of contention. If keeping the greenhouse above freezing approx doubles production and increases the ROI, why would he say that tightening the greenhouse to keep it a few degrees warmer wouldn't matter? It would be a one time expense vs the ongoing cost of propane or other fuel. Also, this would apply to using thermal mass to hold excess heat instead of venting it.
What about a simple geo thermal air system to keep greenhouse beds above freezing without sacrificing light or having a monthly fuel bill? I just installed one on 3/22/15. Here's the gist of it. Dig trenches 6' deep (the ground temp at 6' is consistently 50-60), lay in 4" corrugated drain tube but bring the ends of the tubing in the greenhouse and backfill; then use a fan to blow the cold greenhouse air through the intake tubing and underground to pick up some of the warmth from the soil and exhaust that warmer air into the greenhouse under the row cover. This works as a cooling system as well and stores the excess heat on sunny days in the soil. For cooling you would want tubing and a fan at the ceiling where the hottest air collects. Up front would probably add $1/sq ft. when you subtract the cost of a fossil fuel heater. Eliot didn't talk about how much his monthly gas bill is but I'm guessing the payback for a simple geo air system maybe 2 seasons? Mine is a test system for an 8x15 attached greenhouse. I did some preliminary testing in a makeshift poly tent and am getting 45 degree air at the exhaust when the fan kicks on at 40 degrees. Surely enough to keep stuff from freezing under row cover. Its doubtful we'll get any more really cold weather this spring though for more thorough testing.
Great video! What about building two long rocket stove thermal mass heaters in the greenhouse? - They can burn for 45 mins and stay warm for over 12 hours! - Could this be a more cost effective alternative to using propane heaters?
+RICHARD TATE I did that in a geodesic dome and quite honestly I think perhaps leaving the air temp lower is better to help reduce pests. I kept my dome a comfortable 45 degree or warmer, typically 70 degrees at night and only dipped low briefly before I light the RMH each day as the sun was setting.
Thanks for the references! I live just north of the border of New York in Canada with the same climate as in Maine. I wonder if any of these seed suppliers deliver ship north of the border? I suppose I will have to contact them directly. I have to admit, I never knew you could grow vegetables in cold greenhouses. Pretty amazing stuff! I definitely want to give this a try. Thanks again!
Hello Eliot...just love your stuff. Putting up a portable greenhouse right now and it's starting to look good. It's tough to tie the rope across the top and get a 4' span, but I'll get it. I have two questions. In this presentation you make reference to a "MBC" salad mix found in Europe. It's mache, chicory, and something else that I don't know. Whats the B stand for? And, what kind of chicory is used? Radicchio or something else. Last question: is mache a cut and come again crop? I
At 1:34:30 he talks about how plants take twice as long to mature in the winter. I'm assuming he means in the unheated greenhouse since he said that in the minimally heated greenhouse he's getting twice as many harvests.
I keep listening to this section on winter turnips and which dish people use his raw and I keep hearing 'Coup de tay' but google only gives me the military government action. What the heck is he talking about here?
He is saying crudités.As defined by Wikipedia: Crudités: assorted raw vegetables served as an hors d'oeuvre, typically with a sauce into which they may be dipped.
While plastic seems to take less energy to produce, does that include the energy for oil exploration, drilling, transport, etc? Or the environmental and human costs of the inevitable oil spills, toxins released from oil refineries and chemical/plastic manufacturing plants? (And there are many spills which are never make the news headlines.)- Glass takes a considerable amount of heat to produce, but if not broken, lasts indefinitely. It is made from sand, basically, and when broken or the item made of glass is disposed of it returns to sand.- Plastics, on the other hand, continue to release synthetic chemicals over time. (Even 'food grade' plastics transfer synthetic chemicals to the liquids, foods, and skin they come into contact with.) They do not biodegrade, but photo-degrade and otherwise break into smaller and smaller bits. Reportedly, in parts of our oceans, there are more tiny bits of plastic than plankton. It has long been known that sea life often confuses the bits of plastic for food, and the digestive tracts of these animals can become clogged with plastic. Now the gills of fish and other sea life are being found choked with tiny bits of plastic.- To me, its not worth it for a bit of salad in the winter. Fermented vegetables stored in a cool place, packed in glass or ceramic containers, is a very workable alternative.
Oh, and if the total costs of plastic production were accounted for, plastic would not be so cheap. If the oil industry, refineries, and chemical plants were held to strict rules forbidding the release of oil, synthetic chemicals, and toxins, plastic would be prohibitively expensive.
@@Jefferdaughter so narrow minded you are, just look at the fuel used to ship food half way around the world that would never be consumed if you grew locally. If you understood cycles of the very thing you talk about and uses, you wouldn't be so ignorant to reality. the plastic that is ending up in the oceans is single use packaging and not greenhouse plastic which eventually biodegrades. the energy used to make glass is 1000 times more than it does to make the greenhouse plastic. I could go on and on about your ignorance to physical reality but unless you living in a mud hut and don't use any electricity or mechanical transportation your a hypocrite! Next thing you'll be spouting off nonsense like CO2 is destroying the planet and Man made global warming do to cow farts. Good grief I wish people like you would just leave honest intelligent hardworking people who are making a real difference alone. What do you contribute other than a bunch of hypocrisy and hot air?
The varieties Eliot recommends are available from a number of sources, probably the best is Johnny's Selected Seeds in Albion Maine. They have had a relationship with Eliot for a number of years and also feature tools he has designed. Other sources include Fedco Seeds and Baker Creek.
Eliot Coleman has such a wealth of knowledge based on personal experience and observation, combined with a gentle self-deprecating sense of humour. It's a pleasure to listen and learn from him.
This is fabulous information, and will save many people years of trial and error. Thank you for uploading!
I love Eliot Coleman! His ideas are amazing!
don't give up anything ; you guys are fabulous. we stand behind PEOPLE LIKE YOU,
I just watched your 2012 video , don't know how many times
I must say you just forgot to age and not lost zest ....It is pleasure to watch you with your english sense of humour making over the pond audience laughing...I learned so much and i never get tired listening to you
Isn't he American?
savedfaves Hello, I’ll throw in my two cents worth :-) I think Elliott Coleman is an American but I think the commenter is an Englander. I think he’s intimating that Elliott Coleman’s style of humor similar to that of the British.
Thanks for loading this video! I love Eliot's books and enjoyed hearing his talk as well :)
Embracing Harvest | Organic Gardening, Seasonal Recipes
Loved this video. Thanks for sharing!
Love this guy! I was lucky enough to see him at the eco fair - awesome!
6 buck an hour. I have had a longing to grow my own vegetables. Your ideas are superb and of an excellent value, Just discovered your videos tonight and I am now a subscriber.
thanks for posting, incredible information as I have embarked recently on a similar path. Many thanks to Elliot and others for making this happen.
The varieties Eliot recommends are available from a number of sources, probably the best is Johnny's Selected Seeds in Albion Maine. They have had a relationship with Eliot for a number of years and also feature tools he has designed.
Other sources include Fedco Seeds and Baker Creek.
Excellent. Thanks for posting this. Varieties are obviously key. A couple points of contention. If keeping the greenhouse above freezing approx doubles production and increases the ROI, why would he say that tightening the greenhouse to keep it a few degrees warmer wouldn't matter? It would be a one time expense vs the ongoing cost of propane or other fuel. Also, this would apply to using thermal mass to hold excess heat instead of venting it.
Nice. Thank you Eliot.
This is gold
Thanks for the great video. Lots of wonder information
Great presentation, thanks for sharing.
What about a simple geo thermal air system to keep greenhouse beds above freezing without sacrificing light or having a monthly fuel bill?
I just installed one on 3/22/15. Here's the gist of it. Dig trenches 6' deep (the ground temp at 6' is consistently 50-60), lay in 4" corrugated drain tube but bring the ends of the tubing in the greenhouse and backfill; then use a fan to blow the cold greenhouse air through the intake tubing and underground to pick up some of the warmth from the soil and exhaust that warmer air into the greenhouse under the row cover. This works as a cooling system as well and stores the excess heat on sunny days in the soil. For cooling you would want tubing and a fan at the ceiling where the hottest air collects.
Up front would probably add $1/sq ft. when you subtract the cost of a fossil fuel heater. Eliot didn't talk about how much his monthly gas bill is but I'm guessing the payback for a simple geo air system maybe 2 seasons?
Mine is a test system for an 8x15 attached greenhouse. I did some preliminary testing in a makeshift poly tent and am getting 45 degree air at the exhaust when the fan kicks on at 40 degrees. Surely enough to keep stuff from freezing under row cover. Its doubtful we'll get any more really cold weather this spring though for more thorough testing.
A brilliant idea! A lot of work to set up... but brilliant. Cheap and effective and should last indefinitely.
Any updates as to how this is holding up three years later? Any improvements?
SputnikTripulator V I would be grateful to know this as well!
Hello! Elliot! I haven't seen you since I was a student at Franconia College so many years ago! How are you! Delighted to have found your video!
Love his books, love his techniques...what a garden guru. :-)
Kale, Salad Greens, Belgium Endive. His book Four-Season Harvest covers this.
Great video! What about building two long rocket stove thermal mass heaters in the greenhouse? - They can burn for 45 mins and stay warm for over 12 hours! - Could this be a more cost effective alternative to using propane heaters?
+RICHARD TATE I did that in a geodesic dome and quite honestly I think perhaps leaving the air temp lower is better to help reduce pests. I kept my dome a comfortable 45 degree or warmer, typically 70 degrees at night and only dipped low briefly before I light the RMH each day as the sun was setting.
u the bomb. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for the references! I live just north of the border of New York in Canada with the same climate as in Maine. I wonder if any of these seed suppliers deliver ship north of the border? I suppose I will have to contact them directly. I have to admit, I never knew you could grow vegetables in cold greenhouses. Pretty amazing stuff! I definitely want to give this a try. Thanks again!
35,000 income + 15,000 worth of good food to eat!
Would this technology still work in very cold places (winter temperature below -22 F)?
Maybe it's because I'm not far enough in, but what does he do in the summer? What about fruits or berries?
Hello Eliot...just love your stuff. Putting up a portable greenhouse right now and it's starting to look good. It's tough to tie the rope across the top and get a 4' span, but I'll get it. I have two questions. In this presentation you make reference to a "MBC" salad mix found in Europe. It's mache, chicory, and something else that I don't know. Whats the B stand for? And, what kind of chicory is used? Radicchio or something else. Last question: is mache a cut and come again crop? I
At 1:34:30 he talks about how plants take twice as long to mature in the winter. I'm assuming he means in the unheated greenhouse since he said that in the minimally heated greenhouse he's getting twice as many harvests.
+Paul Ladendorf Do you know what he uses for pest control? in summer time.
He uses physical barriers like row cover as much as possible.
Do you know the date this took place?
Does anyone know of anywhere you can purchase organic seeds in the UK in bulk but not large amounts, meaning - not minimum orders etc?
what variety is the butter chard? Couldnt find it on the web.
8000 sqft @ $0.30/sqft = $2400 for a polewood greenhouse. Then what's the crop return on that -- 8000 sqft of uncovered planting versus under plastic?
What did he grow, or what can you grow in that dome green house in Jan/Feb? 9:45
I keep listening to this section on winter turnips and which dish people use his raw and I keep hearing 'Coup de tay' but google only gives me the military government action.
What the heck is he talking about here?
He is saying crudités.As defined by Wikipedia: Crudités: assorted raw vegetables served as an hors d'oeuvre, typically with a sauce into which they may be dipped.
But he wants to go to Georgia. Umm
While plastic seems to take less energy to produce, does that include the energy for oil exploration, drilling, transport, etc? Or the environmental and human costs of the inevitable oil spills, toxins released from oil refineries and chemical/plastic manufacturing plants? (And there are many spills which are never make the news headlines.)- Glass takes a considerable amount of heat to produce, but if not broken, lasts indefinitely. It is made from sand, basically, and when broken or the item made of glass is disposed of it returns to sand.- Plastics, on the other hand, continue to release synthetic chemicals over time. (Even 'food grade' plastics transfer synthetic chemicals to the liquids, foods, and skin they come into contact with.) They do not biodegrade, but photo-degrade and otherwise break into smaller and smaller bits. Reportedly, in parts of our oceans, there are more tiny bits of plastic than plankton. It has long been known that sea life often confuses the bits of plastic for food, and the digestive tracts of these animals can become clogged with plastic. Now the gills of fish and other sea life are being found choked with tiny bits of plastic.- To me, its not worth it for a bit of salad in the winter. Fermented vegetables stored in a cool place, packed in glass or ceramic containers, is a very workable alternative.
Oh, and if the total costs of plastic production were accounted for, plastic would not be so cheap. If the oil industry, refineries, and chemical plants were held to strict rules forbidding the release of oil, synthetic chemicals, and toxins, plastic would be prohibitively expensive.
@@Jefferdaughter so narrow minded you are, just look at the fuel used to ship food half way around the world that would never be consumed if you grew locally. If you understood cycles of the very thing you talk about and uses, you wouldn't be so ignorant to reality. the plastic that is ending up in the oceans is single use packaging and not greenhouse plastic which eventually biodegrades. the energy used to make glass is 1000 times more than it does to make the greenhouse plastic. I could go on and on about your ignorance to physical reality but unless you living in a mud hut and don't use any electricity or mechanical transportation your a hypocrite!
Next thing you'll be spouting off nonsense like CO2 is destroying the planet and Man made global warming do to cow farts.
Good grief I wish people like you would just leave honest intelligent hardworking people who are making a real difference alone.
What do you contribute other than a bunch of hypocrisy and hot air?
Where can I buy the seeds for all the harder winter crops Mr. Coleman presents here? Thanks!
I guess the people were right, this guy doesn't seem like a good fit for Tesseract at all.
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The varieties Eliot recommends are available from a number of sources, probably the best is Johnny's Selected Seeds in Albion Maine. They have had a relationship with Eliot for a number of years and also feature tools he has designed.
Other sources include Fedco Seeds and Baker Creek.