Admech 10th edtion codex reaction. How much does Tak love Stilt-man?
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
- SPONSOR: Baron of Dice. Amazing dice. Great Colour. baronofdice.com/en-ca The new Admech Codex is here. Tak gives his initial reaction and thoughts on the 10th Adeptus Mechanicus Codex and the new Ad-mech miniature release.
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The army has been transformed from a glass-canon into a glass-nerfgun
Wow, they made a Cybernetic Detachment and passed the chance to reales maybe a second Cybernetic unit.
The lack of excitement was clear, this codex is a let down. The stilt man model is lacking, not having an army rule that effects the whole army kinda missed the point of it being an "army" rule. There may still be some little combos to work out but so far no one has shown any real excitement.
Tak seems to be trying to be as polite as possible while selling us something that just doesn't sound that good. There is an awkwardness to the entire video that you can feel. :(
Well, if they say anything bad about GW they won't get sent all the free early review stuff anymore.
yeah they cant be negative
My biggest issue with admech is how doctrina imperatives are so deployment zone focused. The extra ap into opponents deployment zone will often only be relevant if you go first and if you’re on the no man’s land objectives you aren’t getting any benefits aside from heavy.
Also it doesnt do anything for the melee part of the army like sicarians, electropriests and the Syndoian dragoon's lance variation, also why doesnt it apply onto the whole army
And it doesn't even effect the entire army. Come on GW, you had it figured out in 9th. The tech priest detachment rule should be the other half of the army rule.
honestly I feel like if they removed the zone restriction it wouldn't even be that busted considering its only on Skitarii stuff and they could use some love
Or give the AP bonus on models outside of your deployment zone. That way you can decide when you get the bonus. As it stands now if your opponent steps out of their deployment turn one then you never have a chance to benefit from that effect.
@@Leviathan1494 and I don’t know about you, but I mostly play space marines, who are all about charging up first chance they get.
My main issue with the new Skatros model is that it is a waste of plastic and money. It’s rules aren’t very good, and it doesn’t fill a roll the admech don’t already have access too. Every admech battleline unit can take an arquebus rifle that’s just a little weaker than the skatros’. And in terms of getting a unit to sit on your home objective, the ranger unit has sticky objectives and the admech army rules already encourage you to build a gun castle in your deployment zone anyway. GW really was so set on making a new Skitarii character model for this new edition admech, we have plenty of Skitarii units without leaders: the Pteraxii flyers, the Serberys cavalry, the Sicarian units, even the walkers the Ironstriders and Dragoons. Would’ve loved a new leader unit for any of these but no, GW continues to prove they have a toddler locked up somewhere making all the decisions for the admech faction.
Small correction on the Hunter Cohort: all Skitarii get the stealth no matter the range but Sicarians get cover outside 12"
Isn't it only infantry, mounted and ironstriders? I don't think other vehicles get it
Recommend Genefather by Guy Haley for in-depth look at AM in current setting. Great read with Cawl in lead role
All the matches I saw where people used the rad cohort the bombardment always did so many wounds. I just wish AdMech would receive buffs to the stats rather than making everything less points. The army is already one of the most expensive ones due to that.
I haven’t found. Anyone on CZcams using new rad cohort. Any chance you could point me in the right direction?
@@jacksonletts3724 the last one I remember was from Sword 'n' Steele Admech vs Grey Knights
@@LapahnYT Thanks!
A "glass cannon shooting army"? No buddy, a Glass Army.
I think as a brand new player, and as of this comment I only just started building, so I haven't played yet, but what drew me to the AdMech army is their variety. Even though they are primarily more defensive and shooting, I like how they can sort of flip and either building more offensive/defensive, but still be able to flip. With the new detachments, that makes me far more excited because it builds more into that. I feel like, going in, there's an extra layer of strategy that I can play into, and I think that's very exciting!
Thank you for this showcase video!!
Good to see your admech, even tho its worth 250 points wich costed you 5000 bucks
Nice showcase!!
Having to say the "army rule" only affects about half the army sucks. I really don't understand why GW thought this was a good idea and could let it pass. I miss my Doctrinas and Canticles from 9th ed. Yeah they could be complicated at first but once you were used to them they were awesome and felt accurate to the armies lore.
The new army rule being limited to both only certain units AND based around deployment zones is just plain bad compared to what other factions can bring to the table. Its so situational that for my last two games I've plain forgot to use it.
9e was complicated but honestly it didnt bother me, it felt good when I finally made it all work.
I just love Nick. He's such a jovial guy.
My only disappointment with the admech for tenth is that all we got for new models was stiltboy
"only" ? you can get pass that your army-rule can do litterally nothing ?
So far
@@maximem.ste-marie3578 hey now, sometimes it does something - like buffing other armies 😁
Your enthusiasm is appreciated but sadly it seems this edition is not good for the OMNISIAH. I have seen a few lists I’m sure will do ok in tournaments, maybe win one if no one brings Eldar. But that doesn’t speak well fi the books quality. We have few list building options, and thkse we have to remain viable depend on spamming a few combos over and over combos that are weaker than what other factions have. I still can’t get over how it seems like this codex was designed bombs different planet that the space marine codex.
Happy they buffed Rad-Zone Corps. I'm def in the camp that really likes it. Though at the time of its release, it did leave an admech player wanting.
The new version loses the fire back strategem sadly. And the Omnisterilizer got a big nerf. Which it probably needed to be fair.
@@gribblethemunchkin yeeeeah, I'm bummed about the strategem loss too. But the enhancement to extend the bombardment to 6 inches beyond the deployment zone I think is a really good tradeoff.
Stilt guy can look really cool with some kit bashing
The energy in ttheir song is infectious; it's impossible not to get swept up in it. Was also wondering have you heard of October Ends? Their new song is fire! You should react to it
The stilty boy might be useful eventually but its kind of a stretch now. Maybe precision will get a buff eventually, its a pretty rare keyword.
Shoting army? 1/3 of the codex is melee or hybrid; the only edition where AdMech ran almost exclusively shooting was 8th (the shootiest of all Editions). Pidgeonholing AdMech as a gunline army is just wrong considering their roster.
My issue is I can’t get more of the first 10 seconds of this vid cuz lack of money lol. Great stuff
I swear I also heard a tickle playstyle!
Nick is my favorite human :)
Stilt Man is the only Ad Mech mini that I really want.
Any one else think Nick should play Admech? He could be AdNick.... or MechaNick!!!
This was REALLY good, thank you for the level headed and considered review guys!
Also, I don't understand how people are not loving that stilt-guy. When I saw that mini was the moment I realized that admech is MY faction. I'm now making my first non-CombatPatrol army an admech army :)
I think the biggest issue is that the Admech community really had their heart set on getting some of the amazing 30k stuff like secutors or automatons. Or getting a leader for the many many units we have that can't get leaders. Literally no one was saying that we needed a new lone operative objective sitter. We are already a horde army due to weak datasheets, and one of our two bread and butter battleline units has sticky objectives, so there was no need for a unit that is just going to sit on an objective all game. If we had got something with a little offensive oomph, to actually address the weaknesses in the army, we would have been delighted.
@@gribblethemunchkin The best use I'e heard for them is to take 3 of them, 3 Pteraxii Steralyzors, the Rad Cohort detachment, and just force as many battleshock as you can. Because, well, you're probably not shifting them off of that objective the normal way.
The worst part of this codex is how so much of my plastic army is worthless. The balance swings shift between models on editions to keep my buying. But I sat out 10th.
The walker keyword is probably more prevalent than you think. Sure, it isn’t as prevalent as say infantry or the like but most of the armies currently have at least 1 with the exception of maybe GSC, tyranids, drukhari, demons, and leagues. Most imperial armies have some kind of dreadnought equivalent (warsuits, dreadknight, sentinels, penitent engines, etc). Chaos has defilers, fiends, helbrutes, & venomcrawlers. Xenos have battlesuits, killa cans, def dreads, war walkers, wraithlord, doom stalkers, reanimators, and the triarch stalker.
It is. I just have been fighting a lot of forces without it recently.
The Skitallri or Stilttari if you will, is just a fun mini if anything it helps add to the wacky but tech obsessed mentality of AdMech
Would have been nicer to get atleast 1 more robot outside of Kastelans. Heresy game has multiple great ones they could have grabbed.
I also would just like chunkier Admech units without bits dangling all over. I can just throw Orks in a box without worrying about most breaking. Admech models are so easy to break.
Ko'vash Tau'va
Nick who? Never seen that guy before. Great to see you getting new presentors.
I know there's been a disappointment in the codex but won't this bring back the glory of admech like early 9th edition but at least they have more fun rules to bring on battlefield
And could you do battle report of new admech combat patrol vs old admech combat patrol?
Still better off than the Guard.
Tak, what are all the re-rolls you are hinting at?
Cawl has re-roll 1s (worst pick 1 of 3 commander ability in the game)
Breachers get re-rolls.
Marshal can make you worst damage dealers re-roll the hits.
So we basically have Breachers with (relevant) re-rolls :/
There is a detachment where you select an objective and if your unit are on that objective, or the enemy unit are near that objective, you re-roll wound rolls of 1
I'd kitbash my stilts boy to remove the stupid stilts and give him jet turbine back pack.
Warhammer 40K, the whole concept as a game, is shooting itself in the foot by trying to shove these codexes into our throats. If you really want this game to go mainstream, you need to have free rules with the models you buy. Forcing players to buy a book and making it obsolete a few years later is not a good strategy for the game. It weeds out all the "casuals" and forces you to become a sort of "elite" nerd in order to keep up with all the editions of the game and what rules applies to your army at a certain point in time. For the hardcore diehard players, this works but for your usual person who has other hobbies than painting miniatures all year long, this does nt work.
Go Mainstream..? My guy this game is almost 40 years old. It's been a huge name throughout the history of tabletop wargaming. Codexes have been a staple of army rules and regulation for Decades. Yes, it is for elitist nerds and hardcore players IF you choose to play that way. But it really does bank on you enjoying your models, and buffering excitement to paint your force to fit your favorite lore and stories, or even make up your own if you so desire. It's hard to find something more nerdy than Elder Nerds of the time when being a nerd was grounds for getting relentlessly bullied, writing their own lore and fanfiction to their funky toy space men.
GW have more or less turned an elite army into a hoard army that is point per dollar and the army rule doesn't apply to the hole army
5:47 : rerolling everything ? aren't they only rerolling hits and if they are close to an object or the enemy is, re-rolling 1 to wounds ?
Or did I missed something ?
Sorry. The re-rolling part was mispoken. Re-rolling all hits beside a battleline unit. In that particular detachment you can select an objective and then if they are on it, or the enemy unit is on it, re-roll 1s to wound.
So everything will be more balanced cuz everything will be more basic and lame. great.
Nick has a wife?
Lol i really dont like the "stilt man" model. They are gonna have to make that OP as hell to sell them.
Is staying in GW's good books more important than being honest to your viewers?
I'm so sad that gw did this to ad mech, the detachments make me want to vomit and the enhancements are even worse, rad zone is somewhat okay, hunter cohort is okay if you build your list around it, exploration maniple is a joke requiring you to jump through some massive hoops for crumbs, what other faction is made in such a way where a 3rd of its units dont have access to the faction rule on top of having to specialize massively to gain benefit from a detachment, other then rad zone there are no generalist detachments really and even when you specialize the usefulness is kinda lacking. I am salty, it's my own fault.
why did they do this to a faction?
It's on me for getting into ad mech before the drop because i was excited to see something cool and play something new, I've always liked and wanted to play ad mech it just sucks being punished for it on top of the outrageous prices for the models.
The removal of vengeful fallout is pretty bullshit too, if they at least replaced what they removed I would say okay but no, they just stripped out things that made ad mech unique and didnt bother to replace any of it, cool, great job gw.
lastly look at the strats for these detachments, wtf.
Me when necrons and admech get a 10e codex before black Templar
Space Marines players when they're not given attention for five minutes
My comment is a little harsher than it needs to be, but do you want the first year of tenth to just be SM codices? If Xenos/Chaos/IoM players got any less support, we'd have basically none. Many people who play those armies might quit if they have to play an index for two years as well as not having any support. Do you want the game to be only Space Marines? If so, 30k may be right up your alley. I hope my Xenos and Chaos and IoM friends get their codices before Space Marines get ANOTHER codex
Man that’s cool, I just like making the silly little plastic men fight
Nick knows that admech are in bad spot but he really tries to look impressed by the very mediocre rules lol :D