Yoel Roth warns new X CEO about Elon and company status [FULL INTERVIEW]
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- At Code 2023, Yoel Roth, former Head of Trust and Safety at Twitter joined Kara Swisher as a surprise guest an hour before Linda Yaccarino, current X CEO, took the stage. Roth recounted the death threats he received because of Elon Musk, X’s declining users and advertisers, and shared some advice for the platform’s new leaders. The two interviews back to back made for a meta-conversation about Twitter’s past and X’s future. #Code2023 #Technology #Business
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0:00 Intro
0:50 Leaving Twitter
4:44 Elon’s Twitter takeover
7:14 Content moderation on Twitter
10:08 Death threats and Elon
17:08 The use of lawsuits
19:28 Elon Musk biography
20:34 Op-ed
21:55 Censorship investigation
24:50 Government and social media
27:10 TikTok and the 2024 election
29:39 Truth Social and Trump
31:39 Linda Yaccarino and advertisers
33:02 Elon and content moderation
34:07 X’s full potential
35:06 Advice for Linda Yaccarino and Elon
37:00 Audience Q&A
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She was dead from the first second
I can't.....no patience
Truth vs BS - the comparison is enlightening
i love that he came on before the TWITTER CEO. i love that i watched hers first it made this one much more cathartic.
Night and day difference in presentations -- I, like a lot of people, saw the Linda interview first and how absolutely flustered she was...
Yep came here to say exactly this. What a difference.
I heard Linda used this session as an excuse for a lot of things, so I watched this first. Just see a thoughtful guy who is really disappointed in how Twitter is changing.
Yoel wasn't antagonized, Linda was. Not even a comparison.
@@sams8502 are you suggesting she was antagonized by his comments, and that’s why she wasn’t able to act like the CEO of a multi-billion dollar company?
Ok yeah I understand now why Linda was so rattled by this interview.
What a difference between the two interviews
26:00min
Paraphrase:
“The incentive to do the right thing does not exist in silicon valley”
Money > Morality
@@DougiePlaysSoccer yeap….right now Peter Theil is bribing universal health care systems in the Uk and probably Canada….as to destroy them
what's the right thing? Isn't that the problem, the idea that a small group can control ideas
wow, this was like night and day with the other interview. Linda seemed drunk
Boy did she HATE Julia Boorstin's persistent questioning....Linda: "I REALLY have to go, thank you!"
This interview felt like a therapy session for Kara and Yoel.
😂 the best comment around here
Why does it feel like these comments are from X employees?
Worse. It’s Elmo’s boot licker doing it for free.
Not at all - I'm guessing 75% of people at Twitter hate musk. This is just all that's left of Twitter... racists, incels and trolls.
💀💀💀💀
Muskites
it does smell a bit musky
thanks yoel! and nice trick to place the interview there :D so good to see someone that knows what he's talking about, against someone who is just talking political nonsense :D
"I a m working for X, he was working for Twitter, so why do you even listen to him?" that's her biggest point, thanks Linda -.-
compare this to the mealy-mouthed nonsensical answers linda yaccarino was trying to give
I don’t even think you could consider anything she said as an answer
Linda knew she’d be a hand puppet right? Just a highly paid meat shield and what not?
On a side note, is microphone technology going backwards?
Whether you agree with Yoel or not... what Musk did to him was disgusting.
Definitely. There is absolutely no defense possible against it
It will be what destroys Musk, he has burned too many bridges, when he needs people, they won't come to his rescue. I guess lots of multi-billionaires have done similar things, so many lose everything, but they don't learn the lesson.
No idea what happened but who cares about millionaire ceos feelings?
He will turn on ANYONE.
Which he deserved
I would recommend staying out of this comment section…
You didn't follow your own recommendation😂
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I thought there was something wrong with my CZcams lol
Why do you use the word “y’all”. Its not proper English or good grammar, especially since you are representing a company focused on journalism. Is it a tactic to be for “common” or “of the people”? It’s terrible. Please stop saying “y’all”.
thanks for the high quality, yeah, umm, yeah, umm but, umm, hmm, hey, umm bullish it
try counting the number of times she says umm... enough for Mr Beast to make a video..@@ciaranmcginn2234
This isn’t a formal letter or a formal email message. It’s an informal comment regarding the quality of the video.
26:04 Yoel, we were never able to "see government talking to platforms." That was the whole problem.
how about we see the saudi's talking to elon instead
Yoel Roth makes me wish I had tried Twitter, Linda Yaccarino make me sure I never will.
You aren't missing out💜
After the recent fight between advertisers especially Disney and Musk, i realized his 44bln doesn't go to waste. X has become a true platform for free speech. Remember not everything is perfect with musk. But his intentions is true and we have to appreciate that.
yes a true anti-semite enabling racists and bigots to have free reign on his platform
I love to see three ads in the first 5:40. BUT, think my preference is an ad every 25 seconds. It's possible, you can do it!
Pay for premium
@@Chris-ms5bdno, I like ads every five minutes, but I would prefer them every two minutes.
I’m ashamed to admit it, but after I tried premium once, I simply cannot go back.
He was so well spoken & genuine . Night & day difference between he and a certain other interviewee.
His PhD thesis argued that children should have access to Grindr.
His phd thesis argued that kids are on Grindr (.which there are) so they should have a better way to identify them & safeguard them (which they should)
Great interview and interviewer. Loved how data driven he is and that's what Twitter needs and won't get.
He only likes his data. He would be wise to read Thomas Sowell.
Very suspicious comment section on here 😂 definitely not suspicious at all.
I'm surprised this video was raided this much by X enthusiasts/fans. Not sure why.
@@elck3 yeah totally. I’m the one in the echo chamber 😂
@@memo29b they don’t have real lives or real jobs so what else are they supposed to do.
This what the heart of Twitter looked like. Passionate and smart people believing in creating a safe platform for the world. Yoel is one of the reasons why I loved to to be on Twitter. Musk and Linda were the reasons
You can tell hes an academic by the way he speaks, very logical conversation!
60% of advertisers left X and haven’t come back 😮
Check again.
Another leftist's wishful thinking😂
Whilst the cep says 90% have come back. Wonder who is right? 😂
@@aaron_k4787 try harder and he will let you touch it someday
The CEO also doesn't seem to know what's going on with major decisions in the company.
Had we, the users/consumers, stopped using SNS, would it be the best solution to bring the outcome a little closer to sanity and normality? The conventional one to one conversation. Even this approach can turn into a mess and threat. Yet, the face to face communication achieves insight more realistically. If it's not feasible, could SNS warn the users/consumers/clients the trust and safety is never accomplished?
This interview was incredibly important for our tech world today. This man is a hero. It’s people like him that work everyday to ensure that the digital world doesn’t descend into the dark Wild West and it’s a safe place for us and our kids. Kudos to Kara for bringing him on. What I really respect about him is he backs his morality up with facts.
I hope he gets justice and finds peace.
Yes a true hero the same guy that wanted people murdered for not agreeing with him, same guy that lies and tricked people, all this interview proved was it was he needed to promote himself with lies because he got exposed for his BS and now needs bots to defend him.
Also The Verge has been exposed for misleading people and lying as well but hey don't let facts get in the way of ur spin
Providing law enforcement and the security state information, without any pushback, on a regular basis, makes you think the old Twitter is protecting free speech, transparency and making the world a better place for our children?
I hope justice is gotten too. I hope Roth is tossed in prison where all treasonous traitors belong
there is no heroism in facism. He lied about a lot of the topics they discussed. Do your research bro
@@Homer_Jay enlighten us. What did he lie about?
The gap between this and Linda's interview is as wide as the heavens and earth.
Linda's was horrible my gawd....
Hah! Just notice how Yoel is shaking his head while saying; «I hope so. I really hope so» 42:57😅
The head shaking is about the reviewing in his mind what happened and being in disbelief of it really having happened, not about contradicting what he say.
To be frank, how can we possible know?@@aronhighgrove4100
Wonderful and important interview.
This comment section is all that's left of Twitter... racists, incels and trolls.
Nevertheless, people people also exist within society
@@elck3 please elaborate.
Yikes. . .
@@_7.8.6 probably bots honestly
The bias in this interview is absolutely bizarre to me.
Wonderful interview.
Great interview. Yoel comes off as a very genuine, thoughtful person.
God I hate Musk. Yoel seems like a very nice and reasonable guy. His points about decorum were really spot on.
You must be crazy....
lol you're out of your mind, the brainwashing really works
Can someone explain to me how X is still functioning after most the company was laid off?
I mean, do you think they are? Look at the advertisers left. They’re one tweet away from MyPillow being the only one left.
Are you just now realizing Twitter was overloaded with employees that made way too much?
@@estobz not more than any other Silicon Valley shop
They want to help burn down social media. No content moderation helps achieve that.
It’s functioning like a bike with one wheel off, we’re just pretending it’s a unicycle
Is any social network capable of allowing free speech (that’s not hateful/inciting violence); when the incentives to speaking the truth may be ‘scare tactics’ directed at the speaker. 😓
If one person considers the truth hateful. Then what do you do? On some social platforms, they censor it. At the cost of democracy.
29:22 such a savage moment 😂
Concerning.
This person seems more like a CEO than twitters’ own CEO(INO) 😂
100%
X / Twitter has really fallen off
Highest user engagement of all time lol
@@potatocurry4474 It’s cause they got all the 4chan people and a ton of folks who were banned got restored. This hate-speech and lack of moderation is bad for humanity
He talks about the importance of facts, but under his guidance Twitter was banning people for posting facts and asking for evidence.or just saying things they didn't like. And he talks as if Twitter wasn't a failing business, as if it was doing well until Elon came along.
Facts… Twitter was controlled by the left and it was super obvious
True. He just seems upset and venting rather than bringing forward genuine issues
Bruh while no social media platform is perfect, Twitter was exponentially more factual than X is. And it isn’t even close. X is full of hateful tropes and pseudoscience that would’ve NEVER been allowed on Twitter.
Aside from the Hunter Biden screwup, please follow your post up with some “facts” that the content moderation team at Twitter got wrong
Good interview!
how did The Daily Mail doxx him?
They published where he lives, or rather where he lived at the time he has since moved as he pointed out
This is right on. Just compare the empathy level from Yoel versus Linda. Scariest part is I got a Tesla ad every time I watch this telling me how good a guy Elon is. That’s not a coincidence.
What a brilliant man. Well said.
I wish I was married
I just hope Rocky never sees this video...
Rocky?
@@jimmyguitar2933 Look up the journalist who asked the first question.
well this guy is great
You should look into his history - let me know how great you think he is then
exTwitter! Brilliant way to call it.
Not surprised about Kellyanne Conway. She literally destroyed her own family to please Trumpy. 🤦♀️
Haven't watched the entire video yet but he definitely seem to speak the truth. It's clear how is wrong here and it is expected
I was really hoping that someone will bring a more evidence based approach to the conversation- thanks Yoel. So tired of this blah blah spin to appease ideologues
What was the point of this interview? This wasn’t even scheduled 😂. Production enters chat. Yoel: “this isn’t a bash Twitter right before the CEO comes on.” I’m just here to let you know I know how to run the company better even though it was in the dumps already before the acquisition
This guy does such a good job of representing ex twitter employees kudos to him for being an adult and making musk look like a cry baby.
a "form of godliness" but denying the power thereof
People like Yoel were the reason why no board member actually owned any Twitter stock and Yoel is just mad cause he can't censor people like before.
Yoel....You got developed as puppet of CIA
Unsurprisingly, only on Twitter, it’s called “X” 😂 everywhere else is Twitter 😂
Interesting intelligent guy with a fascinating and disturbing story to tell.
But interviewed by one of the worst interviewers ive ever seen or heard. He would be telling his story with a very natural flow and she would interrupt and point the conversation in an entirely different direction bluntly. I was surprised he didnt show his irritation. I would have.
Yoel is great. I hope he could land another great position soon. Kara you really need a Musk detox ASAP, the constant Musk focus is becoming unbearable.
Disagree. I think he likes to use the virtue shield and is quite racist himself actually.
Im suprised twitter even had "Trust and Safety" department seeing what kind of crazy content they had on there.
Grow up
Ahm... have you heard about an app called X...?! You will be in for a nasty surprise.
I dunno. I think pdeohpiles felt very safe.
Yea all that lying about how vaccines work but every time the flight logs to Epstein Island was posted it was removed immediately until musk took over....
@@albeit1seeing as the website's new owner will go out of his way to defend you if you share CP for "informational" purposes, I'd say they feel safe than ever now.
X is the perfect logo for cancel culture 😂
Name one person who's actually been wrongfully canceled? Besides Colin Kaepernick.
censorship is evil
He did it.
At this point with social media,
Censorship just makes people angrier and more polarized.
Such a contrast to that Yaccarino shitshow.
CIA
Yoel Rot is worm. Vermin are good BOORNED.
I watch this and all I can hear is all of the failures of Neoliberalism. Neoliberalism is our problem all else is commentary.
Its so telling that a man with t1ts is the first to ask a question on the mic. The tech world is so far gone its crazy.
Kinda sounds like he’s just upset about being thrown into the deep-end and being unable to keep up with the new pace and pressure. The reason Twitter was so bad at innovating was because of people like him-he’s slow and likes to complain a lot. (Of course he’s a university professor).
Doesn’t seem to have improved without him.
@@TheaterPup And your point is?
@@zedrockiby LOL That Yoel’s point has been proven. Musk isn’t some big genius. Just a spoiled brat with a drug problem who’s destroying his own platform.
I think when you’re dealing with a social media company that has literally contributed to democratic revolutions overseas and an attempted domestic coup; a slow and measured pace of change is better.
This reminds me of Lemmiwinks
"Twitter had giant safety and security issues" - former Head of Safety and Security.
Sounded like he was saying “We faced a lot of challenges” more than “we failed to do our jobs.” Sure, you can still argue that they did, but this is not like a union leader bemoaning poor working conditions.
Roth is the right hand man to vijaya gadde who was in the pocket of the clinton campaign and rogue FBI agents
Boring
Musk's vengeful (and Trump-like) dimension vs. thoughtful reflection is so unfortunate and disturbing for such a brilliant and also so very flawed individual.
But he wouldn’t be brilliant if weren’t for the evil side. Intense dualities are what make people great.
I don’t see him as particularly brilliant at all tbh. Just lucky and mad racist
Really bright guy. Seems clear why he would leave Twitter
I briefly worked with him at Apple. He was too smart for the fruit company and remains that way. Smartest man I’ve ever known. I’ve also never seen someone type as fast as Yoel.
Adhominem
"the daily mail published where it is" (his address)
"Blocking journalist from disclosing his location then putting them back sort of" (elon's flight data) is anyone else shocked by the way these two similarities are being discussed?
Flight data is public by law, your personal house address isn't. That's why one case is considered doxing, and the other one not so much.
He said he was fine with it because he's supposed to be some kind of free speech absolutist.
Twitter was never safe
3:17 Elon: hold my blood transfusion
100% comments in the video require approval before they appear live.
I just tested it, and that doesn't seem to be true. Sorry if the comment section isn't going the way you wished. 😢
Why is the moderator continuelly interrumpting the guest? We don't care about the moderator opinions, but the guest.
Yoel who?
Deep harm, lol
Elon is, and has already driven Twitter into the ground. The question is how much longer will he keep at it.
*Kara is the best interviewer!*
819 upvotes; 535 downvotes. F the censors.
Of course this is the guy that Elon and his deadbeat fanatics chose to come after. Genuinely intelligent and compassionate guy who actually had a positive vision for the platform. No wonder it all went to hell.
The timing of this interview seems weird. 🤔
why is this timing interesting?
@@suhasr2640cause it happened just before the twitter sorry x CEO was being interviewed
All the talk about Brand Safety and none on censorship.. the bias is so obvious. Censorship stands second to none.
Yoel demonstrates so much wrong with big tech.
Explain please.
@@brucebanksshowthey’re a far right ideologue and musk d*ckrider. Not much too explain
Interesting how two people can look at the same situation and see it so differently. Yoel saw Twitter as an exemplary company espousing the values and ideas of its employees and society at large. Musk saw it as a bloated, activist organization, not focused on products or its customers, and delivering a product that didn't advocate free speech or transparency.
Understanding the degree of cooperation Twitter provided to law enforcement, et al, it would be hard to support Twitter's contention that it was an effective advocate of free speech and liberty for the average citizen.
Since when did working with law enforcement, especially in the USA, become the antithesis of free speech and liberty?
You all should check Germanys history (1933-1938). Free speech has a limit. If it turns into hate speech and limits others speaking out, you have to do something about it. Else, it becomes a contest of power rather of discussion.
Twitter cannot provide free speech. It is not the government. Also in what way was Twitter ever an “activist organization”? Since when is making as much money as possible “activism”?
If you found the amount of co-operation Twitter allowed with law enforcement surprising you absolutely don't understand how social media works. *Every* platform (including "X") co-operates with law enforcement, if they don't they face sanctions.
It’s unfortunate how negative Kara has become in recent years. And no one really believes Yoel is not super biased and objective.
So what if he is?! Twitter worked ok anyways unlike the cesspool it has become now
Found the musk cultist.
Yoel is not a gov official. He has his own opinion and can shows his bias as much as he likes. Freedom of expression. Isn’t it supposed to be important ?
@@rfichokeofdestinyso not everyone “deserves” freedom of expression? Why does it matter what Yoel’s thought on the topic is? What exactly is the principle here ? Or you just parroting whatever the big man tells you to?
You have clearly never watched a video of Kara Swisher 😂😂
He should try for job here in China, much better suited for him.
How so? The CPP and Musk are on the same page and are close allies, especially when it comes to advocating social conservatism and authoritarianism
hilarious video, thanks 🤣
Left at "This a truth teller" 😆
Shouldve had Jack on instead.
X is doing just fine, thriving in fact.
Not according to the data
How is it “thriving” when it’s struggling for cash and keeps coming up with desperate measures to raise cash?
Lol by losing money fast.
said no one ever
Thriving so much, the CEO doesn’t have it on her iPhone Home Screen.
Just think you shouldn't talk about a company like youre still there but you arent still there
I mean y’all can say what you want but you can’t tell me people have stopped using twitter since it morphed into X. I don’t know anyone who used it anymore but nobody uses threads
I'm not sure why Threads is being mentioned, but the Threads app is above Twitter in the Android app store and it's active user base is half of Twitter's in just a few months (Twitter has a 17 year head start). It's doing remarkably well.
@@wallacewallaby5782 How recent are those stats? considering the simple integration and most users simply being able to download the other app it wouldn't be surprising if those numbers are from people who simply made a threads account then don't use it after that. I know a lot of people who made one day one then never touched it again.