Could Z Goku Blow Up A Universe?
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- In this video, I go over just how strong Son Goku is at the very end of Dragon Ball Z’s Buu saga. More specifically, we go over whether Son Goku could destroy a universe at any point in the series and where specifically he gains the ability to do so. If you enjoyed this video, be sure to like and subscribe. It helps me out a lot and lets me know that you enjoy my content!
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Can you do a powerscaling of Ahzek Ahriman from Warhammer 40,000 and try to pit him against other characters in match ups?
There’s a big difference between a universal threat and being universal in power.
They're not mutually exclusive
@@PegasusTenma1they are mutually exclusive
Exactly, I don't know why people can't comprehend this
@@RetroMagnus761Wow now you really showed it to these DBtards!!!
Yeah what is the feat of destroying grand kais planet?
An infinite sized planet which holds infinite sized pocket dimensions.
Yeah the real argument is “i dont feel like Goku is this strong”
The fact that this a question that's how you know DB is downplayed like hell😂😂😂
Naruto is definitely more downplayed tho 😂😂😂
JOKE RIGHT@@DarkTemple34
@@tmtsps12eh Ive seen plenty of naruto wank but theres dudes calling bro street level 💀
@@tmtsps12 nah its true naruto is downplayed alot
@@lucionjones8685 Kurama stated to be able to turn the world into ash “that’s continental”. Earth shaking power “not even moon”. Kaguya creating 4D space-times that are stated to be parallel universes in the LN, and even being able to destroy the dimension. “Not even solar system”, Momoshiki making hyperspace’s and eating stars, and making an attack to infinity “might be star level, but prob multi planetary”. Toneri reshaping the universe and also being able to destroy earth and split the moon, “not even country” that’s how people be downplaying feats in the Naruto/Boruto series. I’m not arguing some Multiversal Naruto wank but he’s definitely in the Galaxy or even Uni+ levels of power, from feats, statements, etc. Naruto being able to interact with a limbo clone in a different plane of dimension, “not even 3-D”
I already knew Buuhan (and, by implication, the far stronger Vegito) was universal, but I never knew about the Grand Kai's planet being nearly universe-size and its implications for the strength of Kid Buu and SSJ3 Goku (and, by logical extension, SSJ3 Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan). Great info!
My destructive power tiering system
Roshi level-moon level
Raditz level-small planet
Saiyan saga vegeta level -large planet level
Perfect cell level-solar system level
Kid buu level-galexy level
Buuhan-universal
Frieza would probably be star level
This is the most accurate scaling
Unfortunately fanboys are going to say it's downplay or haters are going to say it's wank
Ngl, I'd say similar but
Roshi - Moon
King Piccolo - Small Planet
Vegeta - Planet/Large Planet
Frieza - Star
Cell - Solar System
Buu - Galaxy/Universal
@@kingaiden505I could scale Frieza to solar system level because planet Namek explosion was shown to be so big that it was shown in a zoom out galaxy
@@perminator218it's a terrible power scaling
Unpopular opinion: cell arc has the best theme songs in dbz.
Its perfect
Brilliant and unbiased video as usual toaster
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@@ToasterXD whats ur toughts on offical divine video on superman vs goku
Well Gokus ki was felt in the world of the kais in both the manga and anime. He did this by literally just powering up to ssj3. His ki not only traveled against a nigh infinite distance unbound by time, it was powerful enough to shake it
Non canon feat any feat from the Z movies ain't canon
My question is why did no one feel it before? That wasn't his first time going SSJ3.
@@Supahdenning cause it ain't canon and because Goku learned how to be more stable with the form
@@yeahboi_xx9494 In what way is it not canon?
@@yeahboi_xx9494 "in the manga"
Just to let you know Akira Toriyama said in a interview that he doesn’t make Hyperbole statements:
Wired: With what stance do you view words?
Toriyama: At any rate, I don't waste much time blathering on about useless things. As a rule, you can understand the content to a certain extent with just the pictures, and words are nothing more than a supplement to them. I had that drilled into me by my first editor, I guess you could say.... If you're going to come out and say something, then make it something that will strengthen the characterization even further, is what I mean.
Saiyan Saga Goku is star/solar level because of spirit bomb
Namek Goku destroyed a planet. Base Namek goku went kaioken and lit up countless stars, easily multi-solar in base. That is before SSJ
Pikkon and goku were destroying metoers with ease with mere force and shockwaves of their battle
Cell saga vegeta destroyed a solar system after missing. Filler Kid Gohan destroyed a star, and survived it.
Goku and buu were stated to destroy kaioshin realm
SSJ3 goku shook Macrocosm
Battle of gods is Z too btw
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Funny thing is I was studying for a exam when I saw that this vid was posted but I was 4 minutes late😂😂😂
Whats really insane is if you highball super goku. In the beginning of super his attack went through nothingness that would need to be infinitly large to separate the kai planet from the universe, meaning at minimum he has immeasurable speed and high multiversal+ attacks, in the start of super. Then there's jiren who shook the infinite void which could be the nothingness the universes exist in which means their an infinite amount of distance away from the universes an infinite distance from eachother and jiren shook it by existing. Now correct if I'm wrong, but that's at least high hyperversal type stuff from existing.
Then there's the grand priest who set up the ToP meaning he can move an infinite distance in a place where immeasurable speed in minimum.
You could just argue that Majin Boo breaking through Temporal Walls is Universe Level+/Low 2-C even for the Manga
Dimensional tiering is absolute nonsense. Breaking dimensional walls is not a quantifiable feat.
no
It’s not it’s a low 3-A feat, Buuhan feat is 2-C since the universe was actually at risk.
Super Buu never got close to destroying a universe.
@@DADRB0B55 kid buu threatening to destroy grand kais planet which is comparable to heaven which is highballed low multi can be seen as low multi, it also had a infinite dimension in it
Saitama fans eat this💀
There are "debunks" to most of the Kid Buu Universal Arguments(you can say the Grand Kai Planet is not to scale with Heaven because you can see a building from outside the Planet, or saying that "destroying the Kaioshin Realm" is Just talking about the Kaioshin Planet), but you can't debunk every statement/argument(Universe going poof, several Guide book and such statements+scaling with Buuhan statement). So that's a pretty good indication he is solidly Universal.
grand kais planet has a room which contains an infinite sized pocket dimension
@@TheYolo20 When was that ever stated? I know that The grand Kai has a pocket-dimension with a starry sky in the background, but that's multi-solar system not Infinite.
The fact that this is a question shows you how much DB is downplayed 😂😂😂
Damn. And I thought me putting goku at galaxy was the more contentious level of scaling. But now I got a new meta for goku almost no one is gonna believe in and I’ll have to still fight for goku being at least galaxy level 😭
This answer is simple. Yes, in some guide books it was stated that full power frieza had the power to destroy the universe so Z goku at buu saga could easily do it in base.
I have a question. I know it is random but i would really like to see a kiana vs goku video. Both the characters have different forms of feats so i would like to see based on your calculations if you could please do a video like that. Goku vs Kiana. Who's stronger?
I guarantee you frieza could create a super nova so large it causes the universe to scramble due to gravity changes.
However if you use this meta, then SSG is a very low multiplier and Fusion would be even less than that since Goku believed Vegito wouldn't do anything to Beerus but with SSG he thought he had a good chance to win
Nah, because this is just universal+ at best. BoG Goku gets to Multiversal (or Low Complex Multiversal if you use 5D stuff) which is far above that. So DBZ peaks at Universal+ whereas Super gets to those Multiversal ranges from the start, peaking at Low Complex to Complex Multiversal with Zeno. Then we have Dragon Ball Heroes that gets to Hyper or High Hyper or wherever you scale it.
Going off statements about the cosmology of dragonball, yes
Can you please do Magin Buu w/ all forms (DBZ, DBGT, DBS) vs Rimuru Tempest (That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime)
When sparking zero comes out imma need you to run me fade.
Imagine still think goku is only universal in 2023
Cuz he is💀as a matter of fact, he was universal from the namek saga in his base form cuz it was stated that frieza in his second form is able to destroy the universe and base goku stomps 3rd form
@@DbsEditorayo dude calm down I honestly think that is a high ball
@@SakuraNoHanaTopaz that’s not a highball just stating from the guides and connecting the dots brother
@@DbsEditornah solar system-multi solar system at best during the Namek saga if u scale it right
@@Kodeuk well I’m stating by the guides which was made by the author of dragon ball soo yea I don’t think so man
How do people in 2023 argue for Kid Buu being stronger than Buuhan?
Too many
Well before this video i use to scale dbz goku to high multi galaxy lvl to low universal
Well i guess i can upscale him a bit then thx to this video
I do know that Goku is a pretty strong guy
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4:57 WHAT DID I JUST HEARD????
It doesn’t matter as I mentioned. I have Kid Buu>Buuhan and the video that Tylearned and I cover the topic is linked in the description.
@@ToasterXD kid buu had a good fight with ssj3 Goku, meaning that they are pretty close in power.
super buu is at least as strong or stronger than fat buu.
Then super buu absorbs piccolo and still gets obliterated by gohan. later he absorbs piccolo, gotenks and obliterates gohan.
Gohan was stated to be the strongest non fused warrior in the buu saga and basically in the whole dbz.
If super buu with piccolo and gotenks was already stronger than gohan and later absorbed him, it would mean that he could be even 2 times stronger than gohan who was stronger than kid buu. (Ik that gotenks unfused inside of buu, but just having gohan inside is enough)
what you suggesting while talking about kid buu being stronger than buuhan is that kid buu is stronger than
super buu+piccolo+goten+trunks+gohan
also kid buu is a product of making buuhan weaker by stealing trunks, goten, piccolo and gohan from buuhan.
so if you steal energy from someone and say that now they are stroger it doesn't make any sense.
and goku+vegeta were almost killed and had to fuse to fight buuhan, but later goku alone faces kid buu.
about this video i gave up after 3 minutes of watching beacouse of errors and lack of logic etc.
there is NO WAY that kid buu is stronger or even close to buuhan.
Sorry for any wierd words if you find any but im writing this at 1am being sleepy 😅
@@stormycraft3052 Yeah buuhan should win
Just one of those things....
I debunk all of this in the Kid Buu VS Buuhan video linked in the description
Thats crazy..
It is, in the guides frieza is literally stated to be able to destroy the universe in his 2nd form soooo yea he universal
Goku can bescaled above kid buu and perhaps buuhan if you believe so. Regardless, both buus have feats and statements for universal. Kid buu threaten to destroye the living universe, the dai kai planet (which has a universe realm inside), the kaoshin realm (not just the planet), which is 1/10 of the macrocosm, and lastly he also threatened the afterlife (possibly even larger than the infinite universe). FInally we have buuhan, who was gonna make the universe collapse.
Power caps at universal cuz your already at infinite energy output for blowing an infinite universe and then it's just based speed to do that job and to go higher you just need to be able to travel to a different universe
Can you do some My Hero scaling cuz Deku in this final arc is going crazy
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What does he ?
@@MeinVater He punches so hard that he warps the laws governing reality.
@@ToasterXD dope😁
@@marvelmaniacs1
that is insane
Which level do you scale that ?
It’s funny how a huge high ball for dragon ball gives FREIZA universal.I think cell is definitely universal if you downscale from the buu saga and upscale from the frieza saga,It generally makes sense as a reasonable scale for frieza would be around galaxy and a simple kamehameha was stated to easily be able to destroy a galaxy,You have to really super prefect is way stronger then perfect cell so universal would be fine for cell.
Tbf the fairest scale you could give to Frieza as a highball is anywhere from Solar System to Low Galaxy.
For Cell though, the correct one is Galaxy+, although you could go for Low Uni or Baseline Universal if you scale him off of the Non Canon DBZ Broly Movies due to the fact that the first one happens in the timeskip between Cell getting his perfect form and the start of the Cell Games.
I would say multi galaxy level is buu saga gokus peak.
This is exactly why multipliers are worthless. If ssj3 was 4x ssj2 then he’d only be multi-solar system.
Yea i had them at universal in the buu saga, them destroying space gives them an argument kinda like bleach's characters.
One thing you're forgetting is that battle of gods was still part of Z and we all saw Super saiyan god Goku almost destroying the universe during his clash with beerus. So yes, z Goku can blow up the universe
no, Goku vs Beerus is DBS, not DBZ.
@@professionaldebunker8813 Before dragon ball super existed there was the movie Dbz battle of the gods
This is wrong. In the DBZ movie Battle of Gods Beerus and Goku didn't destroy anything, that was for the anime and manga which are both dragon ball super, therefore you're wrong
DBZ's Goku can still blow up universes don't get me wrong, but not in this manner
kid buu - threatens to destroy a universe sized planet.
universe sized planet is SO MUCH denser that universe that it would be literally multiversal feat.
if goku scales to kid buu that means he is at least universal.
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Yo toaster or anyone that knows what they are talking about i had a question if dbz has an infinite sized universe and it has been stated multiple time and lets say some db character goes ahead and blows up this infinte sized universe how can people compare other series's character to these db characters when a different character in different verse also blows up a universe which is not stated to be infinite in size like db and a matter of fact verses that dont have an infinite sized universe can blow up 100 universes shouldn't it not matter and not compare to destroying an infinite sized universe when you destroy 100 finite universes and shouldn't it be a lower feat than destroying an infinite sized universe or are we supposed to take every universe in every verse as infinite, I'm confused help bro😅😂
the universe expands infinitely but it is not infinite translates into Japanese as, expands infinitely
Its more of a question about types of infinities. For example, an infinite row of even numbers is, obviously, infinite. But an infinite row of both odd and even numbers will be bigger. Even if both are infinite.
Anyhow, as far as I know(I might be wrong) destroying finite universes is baseline "Universal" and destroying an infinite one is "Complex Universal" or "Universal+". Its basically two different tiers.
Ok you lost me when you said kid buu > buuhan
Yeah he should be blatantly universal by the Buu saga. Not only does Buu has more than a dozen if not 20+ statements of being capable of destroying the universe (several of those implying he'd do it near instantaneously), not only does Goku straight up brawl with Buu and not only is his energy when first transforming as a super saiyan 3 is straight up felt to the Kaioshin Realm which even beings from the afterlife can't access (also he's stated in a spanish guide to have his power multiplied infinitely i think and in some stuff regarding DB kai his power's called transcendental, i'll say it in replies where it is stated if i can find it back), but during his fight with Kid Buu they're blatantly shown and stated to destroying the Kaioshin Realm which is one of the highest realm of U7, like it's to the point that when Buu pulls up on it old kai legit states that the kai world won't break easily which implies that he knows they can damage it or potentially destroy it (and they nearly do lol). So yeah, Z Goku's easily uni
Hmmm. Do you think this boosts the beerus feat or do you think the beerus feat was already higher than uni or is just uni?
@@jkunimage4187 if by Beerus' feat you mean the feat that both SSG Goku and Beerus did by nearly destroying Universe 7 in three punches during their fight in Battle of Gods, that feat was *at least* Low Complex Multiversal at a *lowball*
@@sonraonofficial631 eh. I don’t really go for that meta of goku. Well at least during that point in the anime. I’m more of the “old school” meta. Battle of gods is uni to uni+ then you calc stack to oblivion til you get to multiversal
@@jkunimage4187 that's the low end I go when I don't use the Daizenshuu and I decide to use only statements.
I use every Canon source and scan that Funimation, Fuji TV, Toei Animation, Shueisha and Akira Toriyama have so graciously given us on serious debates like Goku vs Sonic or Goku vs Saitama debates
@@sonraonofficial631 I use statements sometimes. I just don’t use a lot of them because whenever I use them in a debate they either come out as nonconsistent or the other person just doesn’t accept it and I gotta basically go back to the multiverse meta to even have a debate
Good video but there are a few problems with this video. In the first part with Frieza destroying planet Namek people keep forgetting the scene is slowly zooming into the galaxy to showcase the destruction of the planet. The closer it'd zoom in the bigger it would look. but people have tried to say the explosion is somehow galaxy-level when namek especially in the manga is consistently referred to as both a small planet and also not too large of a planet, and it clearly only has G1 Gravity since humans like bulma can casually walk around on the planet. but with Frieza's consistent scaling from base at dwarf star level from destroying planet vegeta. To then go through all his transformations which all have confirmed & finite numbers, Final form Frieza both in his regular state & at 100% power would at least be packing star to star level + areas of power. Plus the anime scene can just be passed off as filler since the manga showcased the destruction of Namek & it wasn't that big. The next thing is the whole cell stuff. disregarding all of his supposed universal statements as they're both clear hyperbole & toie filler. He in the manga & the anime made it clear he had enough energy to blow up the entire galaxy. The statements of the solar system being a "galactic nebula" dont make sence in the slightest. as a nebula is just a collection of gases & some stars. Whereas a solar system, is a system of X number of planets orbiting around a star or large planet with a massive gravitational pull. plus most nebulas on average don't possess many stars & have small stars. as nebulas such as the pillars of creation are the birth place of baby stars. but even then, it wouldn't even make cell multi solar system. the Kid Buu's feats in the anime as well as Buuhan shouldn't even apply to them IN CANON, as Kid Buu's interactions with the grand kais world are only in anime/toie animation filler & not even canon in any other incarnation of the buu saga. with Buuhans he was only attempting to destroy the wall between dimensions. of which if buuhan continued to do over a finite amount of time would've eventually destroyed the universe. but since that didn't happen, on top of the fact the feat can be passed as also toie filler, it doesn't make buuhan universal
4:00 I know you’re more than likely aware that this is herms translation and it doesn’t say „poof”
Goku simply says that if they fail to win, Buu would go on and start destroying everything, therefore destroying the universe.
4:30 We can literally see a building from Grand Kai’s planet, and we know that it’s not Universe sized, unless you wanna argue that Goku or kid buu are infinitely bigger there
Besides these two, good video. I don’t myself think that Goku is Universal in either continuity, but im aware that such arguments and metas exist. Same goes for Outerversal metas for DB which are simply gay tbh
Do toasterXD vs seththeprogrammer (pre- allegations nerf)
Was Goku ever reliable for statements? Earlier him and Vegeta said they could beat kid Buu calling him small. and DBZ generating power isn't equal to their fighting ability. They can generate power to punch above their pay grade and they do that alot throughout the show. so it's very hard to say where their fighting power is vs what they can generate.
WWW, Btw the grade kai planet contains an extra dimensional space
Mastered ui the goat
Goku can’t destroy a universe he can shake one, but not destroy one. In order to destroy a universe you have to be higher than universal. Current Goku in his form is a multi galaxy buster at best.
It's definitely possible but ssj3 Goku before BOG still wouldn't physically scale to universal
He 100% could, there are countless statements implying or outright stating that dbz characters could destroy the universe, possibly even the entire macrocosm. There are also multiple feats in the movies though I guess some of them could be considered outliers
@NOTarthurboyle I really hate to say it because I’m someone who prefers to use physically seen feats, but no. In the guidebooks theres been statements of universal destruction by characters like Frieza in his final form. The issue is that certain people pick and choose what to believe. No, there is no boundless characters in Z, there is no outerversal shake in Z, no character is that strong yet.
@NOTarthurboyle I would recommend watching the video about Goku in SSJ vs Luffy in Gear 5. Apparently there’s more there, I unfortunately can’t give much because I barely started rewatching Z.
@@user-yv3ke7mg2lLoL then you should read the dizenshuu again when afterlife was stated to be 3 layers into outervesal and Goku almost destroy it while transforming.
@NOTarthurboylethere are way more than one or two statements
@NOTarthurboyle who said that?? Since that's the literal statements said by everyone in there team and even koyama backed it up himself just because they ppl doesn't want to believe those things and all that doesn't make it a hyperbole or something. Universe has been said to be infinite expansion of space many numbers of times macrocosm house 7 space times afterlife transcend dimensionality space and time conceptualy and so much more like this you will say everything is hyperbole now. If something like this is said in DC or marvel or any other fiction you will dog water on those statements like crazy but when dragon ball :" oh naw dragon ball can't possibly have strongest character in fiction it must be hyperbole or something" cut that kind of BS. If you don't even believe the author of the story then you can't judge anyone on the show too because you don't even acknowledge the creators word . And don't bother commenting back or anything like that you will bring some useless shit which I don't want to listen.
I feel like in the anime he gets buffed. I honestly don’t think Toriyama made them that strong.
I dont know man these characters from dbz are strong but can they beat goku though
I’d put cell at pretty deep multi solar
4:55 bro didn't just say that buuhan is weaker thank kid buu 💀
Lamdadelta still one shots DBS
With one candy throw aswell
why even bring the witch of certainty in here lmao
@@ultronsigma2737 idk cuz why not?
manga wise no he doesnt have the feats or statements to back this up, with the filler then yes he can
can he beat goku tho
I don't understand the question
Cell actually does not have infinite energy, this is a common misconception, he absorbs the androids to reach a perfect state, but the infinite energy is never used as he clearly gets tired after fighting Gohan. (This is for those who think Cell has infinite energy, he only has infinite potential like Saiyans and Frieza race)
W brother finite gohan slamming perfect cell so it's inconsistent
There are ppl that actually think even Dbs Goku isn't universal
Because he isnt, to be scaled to something you have to be able to destroy it, super goku does not have the power output to destroy a universe let alone z goku. And shaking the infinite void is an outlier feat because hit was able to use timeskip and stop jiren, the most he did was shake the arena itself
@@fgggg8944Jesus lord you don’t know how scaling works do you him literally going to destroy the macrocom which is a 7d-8d structure in size along with everything else making him complex multi easily
@@primalgod7952 Yea, that's wank. "Transcending" something doesn't automatically place you in a higher spatial dimension compared to it. The word can have tons of meaning depending on the context so you'd have to prove that any realm in the macrocosm is actually a higher dimension.
And the verse caps at MFTL+.
@@fgggg8944 actually no it’s infinite to immeasurable speed considering goku at the end of the goku black arc he’s able to breath and move in a erased temporal realm that has no concept of space and time
@@fgggg8944 it is a higher dimension literally it houses these infinite realms there are 8 in total it holds them in place along with the kaioshen realm being outside of it was going to get destroyed as well
So guys plz answer how is Dragon ball z Goku able to take a Attack that was going to destroy Infinite of timelines and even the real World how is that possible bc you Guys say goku is Only Universal level but was going to destroy everything how is a Universal Being able to take that Attack plz Answer
That’s Dragon Ball Heroes, not Dragon Ball Z.
It is a Version of goku from Saiyan saga
i find the 2nd form frieza being universal statement silly. he is said to be a universal threat but that doesn’t equate to him simply just waving his hand and deleting everything. narratively, frieza is on his own tier of power that hardly anybody in the universe can contend with, meaning he could destroy everything over time if he had no one stop him in his way. but hey, what the fuck is a hyperbole? db fanboys gotta get their own bone to naw on i suppose.
lol
I say Universal is a Wank/Extreme highball. You can argue for it, but it doesnt mean its the most straightforward or supported(by the source material) way to scale Frieza. But hey, its DB, comprehending Lowball and Highballs is too much to ask already.
Problem is, Frieza in that arc neither has immortality nor the infinite speed needed to destroy the entire universe over time. And universal Namek saga is much easily argued than infinite speed.
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Koyama dont even got dbz characters as universal busters
The only time in z where goku can be argued to be universal is either the buu saga or the cell saga. Any earlier is wank.
* Beerus arc as he fought against him
@@MeinVater that's not in z
@@odin....technically, bog was a Z movie first
@@mrme.484 isn't that movie non canon? Thought only the anime version was canon.
@@odin.... Namek saga has mad universal statements dumbass
goku could destroy multiverses if he wants
it's funny to ask the goat who try not to destroy a universe....destroy a universe
so cc goku scaled to high or low multi ????
To be real cc goku scale higher then that
Where do u scale him??@@jabinbrown90
Low or high outer
@@kingnick460CC Goku also went through the movies and super up to the tournament of power but not broly movie, Moro arc and granola.
What you just type doesnt make any sense, a character going through movies doesnt scale you know where and doesnt make sense, so what you type there is irrelevent.@@saadaden7769
The true question is can he beat Godzilla
Prolly not
Yes
He could by using kamehameha or wild dance annihilation
Yes
They will never surpass heavens
Omfg...DUDE Dbz was literally made cuz of its crazy power levels...Its literally a story about an Alien race that has no limitations on their max scaling and The series goes on for so much that Goku and Vegeta basically become so strong that they have to fight at the very least Universe busters
At the very beginning of the series Vegeta was able to destroy a planet without trying
Its not them having enough power to destroy multiverses anymore its just that they dont have the techniques and abilities to do it...Basically they have pretty much insane amounts of energy but only used for hand to hand and projectile abilities and techniques mostly.
They can do it but not at once like Zeno can cuz they dont have the technique/ability /jutsu(if you will) that Zeno have...BUT THEY DO HAVE THE ENERGY TO DO IT AT ANY FKIN TIME, THEIR ENERGY LEVEL IS INSANE AND INCOMPARIBLE
No
anime Goku,yeah
Manga tho? Fuck No
Didn't Toriyama straight up confirm buuhan was stronger than kid buu? If so, not sure why that is debatable.
No. Toriyama confirmed Kid Buu>Buuhan.
@@ToasterXD oh i guess i got it reversed
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I mean if u wanna be literal u can say Goku is ssj3 is low outer with the original akira toriyama books n shit from the titles and things like that
19th yessir
What’s even more crazy is people still think gt goku is galaxy level
Gt goku is Outerversal
@@mrextremly1357 no complex to hyper so is dbs goku
@@primalgod7952 proof me Wrong
So if dbz is this strong all of a sudden the dbs goku must be insanely super OP like yall gotta stop yo dbz caps at multi galaxy busters and dbs caps at multiversal 4D 5D beings etc
Divine realm, demon realm, dead zone, pendulum world, set theory, order theory would have you in shambles
I think Planetary Naruto is lowball.
I wasn’t staying Naruto isnt at that level of power, I was saying it’s constantly debated about whereas Vegeta displays that power with his finger.
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Imo DBZ Goku Stops ar multi galaxy DC and extremely low universal AP
Hes not universe wiping until battle of gods
No, he could only collapse a universe
My power teiring system
Power level 160-999: moon level
Power level 1,000-5,000: small planetary
Power level 6,000-9,000: small planetary-planetary
Power level 10,000-11,000: planetary
Power level 12,000-19,000: planetary-multi planetary
Power level 20,000-290,000: multi planetary
Power level 300,000-anything weaker than 1st form frieza: multi planetary-large planetary
Power level 500,000-1,200,000: dwarf star level
Power level 1,250,000-anything weaker than full power frieza: small star level
Full power frieza: star level - multi solar
Super Perfect cell: solar - multi solar mabye universal with wank
Kid buu: multi galaxy - universal+
Buuhan: universal+
the cell is only declared for the solar system level
@@user-px7om3gz5kyou having a stroke or smth?
You don’t need to be a certain power level to destroy a structure that’s literally just head cannon and even if it was it’s has no power or superiority over the anime or source material
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My guy, you did NOT just say buuhan is weaker than kid buu.. more dangerous is not stronger. You missed that, you missed the fact that the universe itself needs perfect ballance. Yamcha could destroy the universe if he hits the right spot.
The fact that you said kid buu isnstronger than gohan, but called people stupid for something else earler in the video is wack
Perfect Cell is stronger than semi perfect Cell who is stronger than imperfect cell who is stronger than 16 who is stronger than 17,18 who are stronger than 20 who is stronger than 19 who is stronger than mecha frieza who is stronger full power frieza who is stronger than 50% frieza who is stronger than 3rd form frieza who is stronger than 2nd form frieza who is stronger than 1st form frieza who is stronger than Saiyan saga vegeta. 1rst form frieza is easily star level btw. Yeah cell has a good chance of being universal though scaling and buu saga goku definitely is without needing all the anime filler feats
If Buu Saga is true universal then doesnt that make BoG feat not that impressive and not that much more impressive than the Buu Saga levels of power?
Sell is declared as the one who is able to destroy the universe, what happened in the battle with Birus is not even the same as Sell, according to what is shown, he is stronger than birus and the whole DBS
no because destroying the entire Macrocosm is much more impressive than just the Upper Half of the Living World (Which is referred to as The Universe)
@@TheMurphyParadox Kid Buu in the anime was already confirmed by Elder Kai to be able to destroy the entire universe which is the same person who gave the context that SSG Goku would destroy the entire universe which we would know as the macrocosm. Kid Buu was also shown to easily be able to travel to wherever he wanted and was stated on multiple occasions to be able to destroy the entire universe including other world and the kaioshin realm. Even in the manga using herms translations, Kid Buu was also confirmed by multiple characters to destroy the entire universe pretty quickly and they were already in the kaioshin realm meaning it's not just the living universe because the kaioshin realm is outside of the living realm.
Ngl z goku is universal easily Frieza saga goku is universal on a hogh ball
Nah he multi galaxy and Vegito and buuhan are universal
Bro doesn't understand what he's saying.🤦♂️
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No he cant
He is galaxie +
But God Goku can do this
Watch the video
@@DanVerbatim
Im watch DB Super
And God >>>>> SSJ 3
And God was destroying the whole universe
+ SSJ 3 > Boo ( destroys galaxies )
SSJ Goku is Galaxie + for sure
@@MeinVater are you actually sped? A galaxy in DB is infinite bruh and the mortal universe in DB is 4d
@@DanielJames-fh6ycI don't believe that was stated in any canon material, but what is true is that a galaxy in Dragon Ball contains innumerable stars and other celestial life, which can put a normal galaxy at universal ranges considering the vast size of Dragon Ball.
This was stated in the Daizenshuu guidebooks of Dragon Ball Z, which Toriyama approved as canon and reliable.
@@Rhetorical_Ife that was exactly what I was talking about thanks but the downplayers don't get it
This video is for the neanthertals that think buu saga Goku is multi solar system level 😂😂😂💀💀🙆
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