Why Conservative Churches Are Growing | Mark Finley
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 20. 04. 2023
- Conservative churches are growing fast. We'll look at a surprising study along with the Bible to find out what really attracts the un-churched. Join pastor, Mark Finley as he uncovers this important topic on church growth and the concerning methods he see being used in todays society.
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Ezekiel 2:4-5 NIV
âThe people to whom I am sending you are obstinate and stubborn. Say to them, 'This is what the Sovereign Lord says.' And whether they listen or fail to listen---for they are a rebellious people---they will know that a prophet has been among them.â
What a timely message! Thank you Lord, thank you Pr. Mark Finley. đđ
You should tell that to a Baptist that repeats over and over that the Bible is the authority and can't read 1 Corinthians 12,13,14 and get it right.
Plus, your NIV has 55,000 missing Words that is in the KJV.
If you use the NIV, the enemy has divided the sheep by a horrible NIV translation.
BEAUTIFUL MESSAGE. PRAISE GOD FOR THE TRUTH THAT SHALL SET US FREE. THANK GOD PASTOR FOR HAVING THE COURAGE TO PREACH TRUTH TO POWER. GOD BLESS YOU.
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Power defined in the Bible were gifts. The church SHOULD operate under 1 Corinthians 14:26-32, but we don't.
Amen and Amen! Glad to hear someone publicly addressing this issue that has crept in among us, "while men slept."
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With tears in my eyes
I say this.... It's about time someone went on record and said this.... It pains me to see the only church I've ever known on a slippery slope. We need to hold each other accountable, we need to hold each other to the fire. This middle of the road mentality is killing God's church.
Shame on us.
@Frank Torres.....I had the very SAAAAME burden for a while UNTIL I came upon a sermon that was preached by Pastor C.D.Brooks.
He said we are not to worry but hold on to what is RIGHT. He said the Church MILITANT and the Church TRIUMPHANT are 2 different things.
He said the church TRIUMPHANT will come from the church MILITANT.
Therefore we must hold on and allow God Himself to do the separation.
To hear this, my heart was full of a deep inner peace that I have and hope to have until I finally make it home.
It is so sad to our layman's eyes BUT these things must happen until JESUS steps in
I hope this will make you feel better.....HOLD ON BROTHER and see God do the separation.
Yes... tears indeed. My uncle mentioned how he never thought he'd see an sda pastors wife doing a workshop or talk on how to apply makeup and false eyelashes. We need to look to Jesus...
@@nicolagrant5450 ..... even worse the Pastors wives are WEARING them all. They are in strong competition with the world.
Now a days you cannot tell who is a visitor from a CHURCH MEMBER.
Do we all remember the story of Lot's wife? Her heart was still in the world.......
Thank you, Pastor Finley! I am going through the period of my life when I am trying to get back to the SDA Church that I abandoned around 15 years ago. It's quite a challenge, to be honest. There is a lot to undo (if feasible), to stop doing, to find the power to resume doing. Not to mention the fact I have new excellent people in my life now who are nevertheless unchurched. Your insights are very helpful in reaffirming the importance of true conversion manifested through good deeds, attitude, and way of thinking and feeling. Thank God he is still speaking to me through your videos.
Ther is no trying, only acting/doing.
Never give up. You are Gods masterpiece and he is not finished.
I would like to pray with you.please feel free to reach out
That is wonderful you are wanting to return! Jesus will give you the power to "stop doing"...He might not do it instantly but if you are patient and keep looking to Him instead of your mistakes, He will make it happen. I think sometimes people give up asking Him for help because they don't see instant results and think He doesn't care but He has a reason for the timing He uses. God bless đ
My family and I attended a mega church with a coffee shop and the loud music and bright lights. It made you feel good inside, the songs they played and prayers made you feel like you had the Holy Spirit inside of you. BUT the message was watered down. The messages and seriesâs were sometimes controversial to attract people and only very little scripture was used. To make matters worse, when I tested my Pastorâs teaching with the Bible, it was incorrect.
Aaron, thanks for sharing your experience. That is why Bible should be our foundation.
Oh Lord my God Jesus knows thank you for your word Father your word is the book of life in Jesus name amen
đź What was incorrect? I test a pastor by asking him if he knows where Mt Sinai is where the Ten Commandments came from...
@@jennifertinker985 For example, the pastor did a series on end times and I was excited. Day one he explained how the church would be secretly raptured. I was intrigued by the thought of people vanishing unexpectedly. The image of cars crashing, work coming to a halt as Christians disappear into thin air seemed like a sci-fi movie. So I did what everyone SHOULD do and test everything with scripture. Not one single book, chapter or verse teaches anything remotely close to a secret rapture. But he didnât just make this up, right? So I researched where this idea came from and it wasnât from God or His Word.
This is all to keep people put.
More $, more $, more $....
We need to go back
to basics.
Powerful message đȘ
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Churches like those you describe are a waste of time. I am new to SDA and what attracts me are your teachings. I am new and 85, but I need your wisdom and understanding to learn
Hi Jean, welcome to the Adventist family and also to our channel. Weâd love to hear from you how you were lead to the Adventist church. We are glad that you are attracted to our teachings. In fact, it is not our teachings meaning something that we have invented. All of our doctrines are derived from the Bible. You are welcome to email us at info@hopelives365.com anytime with any question and we will provide you biblical answers. You are also welcome to view our videos which deal with wide variety of contents like prophecy, doctrines, and practical living.
@@HL365 thanks so much
@@HL365 I watch a number SDA pastors like Mark Findley, Walter Veith, Stephan Bohr, and lately Pastor Skeete, and others. Now fascinated by Barbara O'Neill teachings on health.
Pastor Mark - thank you for your faithful witness...
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I appreciate Mark Finely. First I saw Mark Finley was when I was in my teens( Iâm 55) back home in Kenya. I relocated to the USA in fall 1996 and got baptized after Net96. Many years later I attended It Is Written partnership; for two consecutive years and met mark Finley there. before he resigned as It Is Written director. I feel like Iâve known him all my life- I love to listen to him and love how he is knowledgeable with the Bible. He is very sweet and soft spoken. A a true man of God
Wow! That is amazing. May God bless you.
I needed to hear this. I am not part of a compromising church, but as an individual, I have confessed to God that I have had the tendency to conform when trying to witness, thinking that in that way I can reach that person, and also doing that out of fear that they will not be receptive. But I feel encouraged hearing that YES the truth alone works. God doesn't need us to help by tweaking and allowing creeping compromise. I've repented and if the way I present the truth now (by the truth alone) repels someone, than I shall just kick the dust from my feet. Just wanted to comment that, that this message is for the witnessing individual too as well as the church.
You are right. These temptations and allurements of the world affects us all.
Awesome encouragement Pastor Mark!! Beautiful sabbath blessing to hear today!! †God bless you
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Iâm a Latin Mass Catholic.,,
Never thought Iâd see coffee and donuts being discussed, but thatâs the world weâre in⊠Continue praying for those who need it most!đ
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Please read this: www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/53/t/the-beast--the-dragon-and-the-woman
I'm with you there Mark Finley.
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Amen and thank you Pastor Mark for your uplifting message
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Such a đ„ pow wow message đ„ may God continue to bless you with courage to say the Biblical Truth Pr Finley đđđ thank you - praying for you đ
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Needed to hear this. God is Good.
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Happy Sabbat Dear Pastor .
This is the true world message.â€ïž
God Bless you with your all familly .
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Amen Pastor Mark! What a timely message to prepare people for Jesus soon return đđŒ
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Happy Sabbath Pr and all on the line watching â€
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Thank you Pastor for the message ⊠be different ⊠apart even in the world ⊠is the way to be saints ⊠people of the Creatorđđ»
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Thank you Pastor great message letâs be faithful to Christ and letâs stand with the word of Truth đđ»đ
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Bless you Pr. Mark for speaking the Truth in Jesus... Holy music to my ears. To God Be The Glory... Praise the Lord đâ€ïžđ€
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Amen praise God Almighty
Thank you so much Pastor Mark
For amazing powerful presentation
God bless and Happy Sabbath
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I thank God for your message, pastor Finley! Also am enriched by the sabbath school lessons. God bless you and your family.
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HI PASTOR MARK. THANKU FOR THESE WONDERFUL MESSAGES. YOU'VE INSPIRED ME GREATLY.
Like you pastor, I too have become concerned about the direction our SDA church has been heading. I'm seeing our mainstream conference leaders not boldly preaching the Three Angel Messages nor speaking against the compromises in the church; but has embraced the ways of the beast. I pray your message is truly what you believe and willing to speak up about what you see in the SDA church regardless of the cost. Continue to give the loud cry; God's word is what we must stand on.
Thanks for your comments. May God bless you.
@Maurice O. Good man for speaking out, I've been trying to draw our people to that which has crept into the conference for years, and I got ********* I refuse to use words to describe the treatment I received from the Pastor and some members, But, I held Firm to the TRUTH of the Gospel in Jesus name. May God continue to lead you and Bless you, and keep you in the TRUTH. Amen.
Mary, we are very sorry for the bad treatment you have received from your church. But we are thankful to God for giving you the courage to stand for the truth. Stay humble and truthful to him. May God bless you.
These types of preachings with the straight testimony will bring in also the young who have left. We have it all wrong. Christ method alone. He never held back because he knew who the foe is and the coming crisis. Jesus help us to have courage like the men of old and your pioneers. Amen!
Happy Sabbath Evening Everyone đ
Happy sabbath â€
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Amen đ God bless you! Keep preaching, and letting God lead
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Great message, pastor Finley! Thank you for preaching biblical truths. Many, even in our churches, are afraid of proclaiming these truths.
Andrea, thanks for watching. May God bless you.
Amen Pr. Mark am blessed
May God bless you abundantly
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AMEN BROTHER!!! Thank you our Lord God and Father Jesus Christ for using Uncompromising Pastors and Churches who preach the true factual doctrine that the Bible declares to be truth! For such a time as this we have been brought into the kingdom of God.
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"Let the words of thy mouth, and the meditation of thy heart, be acceptable unto thy sight, O Lord, my strength, and my redeemer." Psalms 19:14
Thank you very much my Pastor. May God continue to preserve and bless you for His service. The church seem to be distracted by evangelistic methods of some new age or Pentecostal churches in some localities. God bless you.
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this was the most inspirational message I have heard in a very long time!!!
God be with you and your family! Thanks for your biblestudy! Christine
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Encouraging and faith building. Thank you Paster Mark!!
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Amen Pastor Mark we need to hear the truth from the Bible
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I am very thankful I was able to learn more about evangelism
Glad you learned. May God bless you.
A needed message!!
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Thank you Pastor for this encouraging message.
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Thank you for this message Pastor Finley.
Youâre welcome!
Brother Mark, †as far as I can tell, thank you.
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AmenâŠthis is exactly why I prefer to listen online.đ
Hi Bonnie, while it is good to listen online, there are faithful congregations that you can join. Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@@HL365 there are other churches in this area, but I do love our SS class.
Thank you very much for this presentation. We sometimes excuse our compromise for love for a fellow sinner but you have pointed out how this is not in harmony with the Word of God. May God bless you
Thanks for watching. Glad to know that you learnt something. May God bless you as well.
This is amazing! Praise God.
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no quick fixes, no shortcuts, BIBLICAL DISCIPLESHIP, great insight Pastor Finley.
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Thank you for this encouraging message. God bless you đ
Lord Jesus help us to wake up and smell the prophetic brew. Thank you Pastor MF. May God bless and keep you in your journey and destination by choice with Him. I can't wait....This earth is NOT my home!!!
Amen Pastor đđŒ
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Thank you Pastor Finley and the HopeLives365 crew for making this content possible! I personally appreciate Pastor Finley's work to bring souls to Christ. One point I would like to point out is Thom Rainer mentions in his research that the "traditional outreach program", one which people would cold call or knock on people's doors unexpectedly, has unfortunately become mostly ineffective due to our culture. We live in a culture where cold calls or showing up unannounced can be more hindering than beneficial. The traditional method has evolved with the times, though, where pastors are teaching members how to reach family, friends, coworkers, and neighbors by relationship building and personal witnessing. The churches that are failing are not doing any outreach at all and care more about their own needs then that of others. I just wanted to include this as well because I personally believe evangelism evolves with the times we live in. We must stay biblically grounded in our beliefs and our methods should not go against them. Its God and the power of His word that wins souls, not any human method we come up with.
Thanks for bringing up a good point. Yes, our evangelistic methods should be dynamic yet it must be biblical. The principles are unchanged but the methods can and should depending on various factors. While the cold call or knock on someone's door unexpectedly be ineffective in area/community, it is not so in other places. Hence, we cannot dismiss that if something doesn't work in one area or community doesn't work everywhere.
@@HL365 Thanks so much for response! I really appreciate CZcams channels, especially from our own denomination, interacting with people in the comments. :) The point you make is very true. We need to have the Holy Spirit's guidance to know what method to use in different communities. Without God's guidance, we are more susceptible to decline than grow.
Amen! I agree it's God and the power of his word that wins souls, not human methods.đ
Thank you pastor Mark Finley for such wonderful message, I was blessed. To understand more about the topic, am going to purchase the book, very interesting to have it in my book shelf, amazing things we can learn about the Word of God the Bible. God bless you pastor Finely, I love listening to your sermons. Watching Trinidad đčđč
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Iâve given up on find a decent bible believing church where I live, so I use you tube for what I need, like your sermons.
Tony, sorry that you werenât able to find a suitable Bible believing church. If youâre interested we can try helping you find one. Please email us about it, our email- info@hopelives365.com When you write please let us know all the churches youâve been to so we know not to look at that.
The message will spread for ages âšâšđ«
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Praise God đ let's make this message viral đ
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We have the lights, we have the coffee, BUT we also have the full gospel and a god loving vibrant evangelizing youth.... They are winning souls....
It depends on what sort of growth measures one (a church denomination) puts in place when we talk about dying vs growing churches. If we measure it by attendance and membership, then that might be right. However, the Kingdom of God may not necessarily measure by those organizational measures. Then brings the question, are we building empires or Godâs kingdom? I believe weâre going to be surprise when Jesus comes.
Thank you for speaking the truth in love. For speaking clearly on what can destroy the effectiveness of the gospel and what can promote its effectiveness to win the hearts of men and women in this world. And the amazing position the Lord has placed the Adventist Church, His prophetic moment in to help others see the beauty and life changing power of God's truth to save a dying world. God bless you brother.
This is the true everlasting message sent from God to his people.đ
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Amen LORD!!!
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Amen may God help us to good deciples until when he comes
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To me it seems like the denomination is really struggling right now.
Maybe. But such practices also aim to be relevant and trendy and confirm with the modern culture.
Amen to the prayer! Very interesting.. no way I am going to neglect or forget about my identity!... in '99 i was sure my identity was Baptist, when i was at a summer campus on identity...but I am sure it was the Holy Spirit who made me block my lips to give that statement ..a few months later I got baptised again, but in the (Seventh Day) Adventist Church in Milan, and I praise God about it ! Gbu pr Mark ,and thank you for standing up and for being a man of God ,of integrity ! đâ€đ„đâđđđ¶âđŻ
Wow! We'd be very happy to hear your testimony. Please email us at info@hopelives365.com and we would be glad to talk to you more about.
Paster your word are perfect amen đđ
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Amen God bless you đđâ€ïž
God bless you, as well.
Amen, Brother Finley!
Doctrine = teachings, truths, beliefs
For many, church doctrine and Bible doctrine are sometimes at odds against each other, i.e. church teachings may not always parallel Bible teachings.
For me, I will always go with what the Bible teaches, because Bible doctrine will *always* be held with authority over anything else or what anyone may say IF what they promote contradicts the Written Word of God, Holy Writ.
Doctrine is Jesus' teaching. We can't get rid of doctrine because they're Jesus' teaching.
Yes we ll ever
Not sure I understand what you mean.
People are yearning for something real true and unchanging something traditional and timeless
AMEN. God lead.
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Thank u God bless
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Good way you preach with passion only thing I donât understand is about the sabbath
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Great!!
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I go to a a mega church and we celebrate communion each week. 45 minutes of preaching. Prayer for salvation at the end of the service. I have grown since going attending 2017. We have contemporary music.
Amen! and Amen!
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Wait waitâŠ. Have you been to Loma Linda Adventist Church lately? The biggest church we have? They serve coffee and actually have a coffee bar, and as soon as you enter, you hear loud music and see strobe lights and its like a concert in there.
Amen đ pray for me for Iam Fear how I should teach my three children and my fourth son is sick from this has made not to return tithe and offering because problem in my house, pray for me so that I become faithful.
We will pray for you.
Should we focus on growing? Is a remnant something that has grown bigger or is it something that remains?
Remnant - a part or quantity that is left after the greater part has been used, removed, or destroyed.
Good question. I'd encourage you to watch this series of presentation: czcams.com/play/PLILDvXAtv9JhTnlAFfsG2_JdFbzYuaQhI.html
If you have further questions, please email us at info@hopelives365.com and we would be glad to talk to you about it.
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Concerning myth #2 I was a church goer for 20 years and never heard of expository preaching. I'd heard countless topical sermons and rarely remembered anything about them after leaving the church doors. Yeah Myth #2 can apply to the churched as well as the unchurched now a days. I'm convinced a preacher can and does just download a topical sermon but actually has to know what he's preaching to give an expository sermon.
Many are hirelings. Isaiah and Matthew. Ebbed if not a download, they don't understand the bible. Some now teach well be sinning until Jesus comes. We can't. There must be nothing of satan in us or we'll be lost. Many don't believe in country living.... what does Matthews, Luke and EGW say though? They seem not to know. Elders also.We need to test every spirit...
Just on being saved by faith alone i suggestcreading James 2: 24..which reads as follows
24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.
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My church is embracing coffee, vegetarian and vegan foods, easter egg hunts. Loud intolerable music during communion
We are leaving. We have had enough. Expository preaching holy worship thats what we want.
Iâm very sorry that you are facing these challenges at your church. Please email us at info@hopelives365.com and we would be glad to connect you with a Bible based church.
My question is, was it necessary to invite Bro. Dean Kelly from the WCC to find out what must be done to keep churches from withering away? The Bible has that answer and more!
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Amen!! Amen!!!Amen!!!
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The Southern Baptists have fallen from 16 million to 14 million. Many churches have huge numbers of inactives
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Yeah Loma Linda, is sad and embarrassing to see that going on in our churches
Your opening comments really struck home... I'm ashamed to say that coffee and doughnuts can be found in some SDA churches, as well as Pepsi in the children's Sabbath school room. Liberal ideas do not enhance people's walk with God, and make for shallow Christians. I pray for people to see and understand what is really happening, as it's not just a superficial thing... People need the real Word of God to be saved and to make it through until Jesus returns, not "coffee and doughnuts" type preaching and lifestyles. I yearn for the SDA church of 50 years ago.
Yes. It is very unfortunate that it is the state of some churches. But God definitely has His churches that are still true to him.
Amen Amen Amen Amen Amen
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Amen. Go out in the world get off your couch and be disciples and preach the truth!
It seems like you do not know much about who Pastor Mark is and what he does.
First off excuse me I do know who Mark Finley is and itâs actually quite funny how you responded to my comment.
Pastor Finleys book âThe Almost Forgotten Dayâ is the doctrine that brought me to become an Adventist.
Care to elaborate on why you made such a comment in response to my post?
There's no one way to do things. God is glorified as we each reflect his character in our own unique ways.
Sure there maybe more than one way to do things, but it should always align with Biblical principles, afterall weâre followers of Jesus Christ.
I can't disagree with you. You are correct.
I just don't think, however, that biblical principles means that every worship service would have that 1950s Midwestern tenor.
I'd like to suggest the series "Reframe Adventist Worship".
Itâs true. People leave churches that entertain. I did.
Pastor, does continual praying without giving up and waiting for what we are praying indicates that we have a faith in God?
Ephesians 2:8-9: âBy grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.â
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Sooooooo....... I can't have coffee and donuts with doctrine?
it is true pastor. I met people said no need doctrine as long as we love Jesus. God bless you
That is very sad.
I pray to God to help me overcome to the coffee with cream only in the morning, otherwise I get migraines headache, Iâm willing to do anything to please God, and believe that my body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, and toxic substances shouldnât be consume.
Stopped the coffee, but when the horrible headache arrived, I have to sip the coffee, even 3 teaspoon of the solution. Iâm struggling with this .
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1John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.