Hey Everyone! It looks as though there was a de-centering issue with my Tamron. Where there was some extra softness away from the center of the image, I discovered that the opposite side of the image was actually sharper. So, there's even less difference in resolution (assuming you have a well adjusted Tamron) than the video indicates. See the 17mm images in the review on my site: www.lightandmatter.org/2020/videos/lens-comparisons/sigma-14-24mm-f-2-8-vs-tamron-17-28mm-f-2-8-for-sony-e-mount-review-comparison/
@@cryptostroka Decentering is a fairly common problem with all lenses of every brand, really (some lenses are worse than others, I guess)... but not especially bad with this Tamron or Tamron lenses generally. Some lenses (Leica, for example) that are produced in small numbers don't exhibit these problems initially, but even they may develop over time. That said, it is pretty much a non-issue in real world use. Remember, I'm looking at these images at 100% magnification with a 42 megapixel camera... and the differences were still quite minor, generally. They may not be visible at all on a 24 megapixel camera. Still, if you're concerned about it, there are some tests that you can do to check for decentering... a Google search will turn them up.
@@cryptostroka It appears to be fairly common - leading to higher than usual return rates at Amazon, for example. After you buy a new lens, I would suggest to take it to someone who can examine (or learn how to yourself), so you can ask for exchange...
I shot this video on an A7RIII, and I've owned the Tamron for years, now. It's not as sharp as the Sigma in some places, but it's still very sharp. I did have an issue with decentering when I got it, but after having it adjusted, it's been great.
I own the Tamron 17-28. I'd like the 6L bag. It does go to only 17mm but seeing how casually and care free I can use it anywhere without having to worry about the front element is really a boon. plus it takes front filters, really light and compact. Should be great for vlogging.
7.48 buildings look more incline on Tamron, Tamron on some close ups show better color and more natural on the brick and grey building. Sigma overal looks a bit sharper but also 400.00 more of course
There are some minor differences in color representation, but as with all cameras, judging which is best is a matter of taste... and you can always improve its accuracy by using a color checker and creating a custom profile for it. Both great lenses, in my opinion.
Matthew, another fantastic lens review. Your attention to detail, calm well reasoned presentation and masterful video has brought me back to your site time and again. I have the Tamron 28-75 and find it really fits my needs. After your video I plan to add the 17-28 to my kit. Thanks for your dedication to your audience. The 6L bag is my preference.
It's a heart vs head battle for me. I really like the 14mm end off the Sigma, but wanting it is not the same as needing it. Budget and weight will tip the scale in my case. Thanks for yet another great comparison. The 6L would be great .
Thank you for producing and sharing this in-depth comparison between Sigma and Tamron. I actually invested in the Tamron lenses because of the balance of affordability, weight and quality including the same sharing of the same thread size for filters. This increased the convenience for travel photography. With the amazing Moment 10L bag, it completes my dream of having everything I need in one bag as my travel companion to take amazing great images to tell of stories, beauty and culture.
Excellent review, I also purchased the tamron, but shortly after found a great deal for a sigma 20mm f1.4 purchased necessary filters for its bulbous front element and haven’t used tamron since cause 20 is wide enough for me. I however see the tamron as something I will use on a gimbal or for when I do not want size and weight of 20. But the 14-24 is intriguing to me plus the filters I use on the 20 will also work on the front of the 14 24. So I see a future sigma purchase. Again great review, great images as well. And 6 tote works for me. I also would add yes I am old as well but I don’t fret the weight of good lenses. For me the Sigma is sexier.
Hi Matthew! I almost gave up hope.. I have the Tamron 17-28mm and want to switch to the Sigma. I already watched all the videos on this topic...(including the German videos :) ) and then you uploaded your video! Thank you so much! I'm going for the Sigma. I also wasn't aware of the Moment Sling bags, finally, a bag to hold my lenses while I switch from the Tamron 28-75 to my future 14-24mm :). I would enjoy the 6L version. Great video, and keep it up.. I'm going to follow your channel.
Are you happy with the Sigma? What were your reasons for not keeping the Tamron? I'm debating myself which one to get. Leaning towards the Tamron because it takes front filters and it's lightweight and compact.
There's just something about sigma I enjoy & I use both company lenses. I'm waiting to see their 70-200 f2.8 e-mount. Your review style is very calming & informative. The 10L bag would be my choice
I sometimes wonder if these companies have worked closely together along with Sony to plan their products and roadmap. They all seem to hit a point in the market perfectly - no complaints!
Good review, appreciate your honesty. This is one of those choices where the Sigma is clearly better, but at what cost? Not just money but weight and portability. If I was taking landscape or architecture shots and getting paid to do so, the Sigma would clearly make sense, and you’d just hoof it around and deal with it. I have several Sigma lenses, & love them. But this one is hard to justify for $1,300-1,400. I’m not getting paid to shoot shots that it’s capable of. It may be worth it if you need it all the time, but for me the Tamron is probably good enough most of the time. I could take the $500+ savings and buy more gear, or just save the money. I WANT the Sigma, but I don’t need it. The other issue is resale, I will say the Sigma lenses (especially ART) go for a premium on eBay, even used. So there’s that to consider, but your going to loose on both on crazy ebay fees reselling them. Carrying around a heavy lens for occasional use seems silly, my other Sigma lenses already make by backpack too heavy….
That's how I feel about it too, although for me, the flare issue with the Sigma is a serious consideration. The other thing is that for a lot of people who are shooting with 24 megapixel cameras instead of 42, the differences seen in this video (pretty minor) would be negligible. Still, I continue to shoot with the Tamron because I own it and don't feel like selling it, and I never feel as though my images aren't sharp enough or wide enough... but I so sorta wish that I had waited a bit longer and bought the Sigma.
I'm looking to buy my first interchangeable lens camera and I'm struggling to pick out lenses to start out with. I'm buying the camera more for video, and a lot of the stuff I plan to work on will be interior stuff so I think the extra 3mm of the Sigma would benefit me greatly. But that Tamron seems like such a great bang for the buck lens with not much quality drop off except for the 3mm wide angle difference. Because of the great value in the Tamron, it makes sense to go with their 28-70 mid zoom lens, but if I go for the 3mm in the Sigma, I'm missing out on the 25-27mm range by going with Tamron instead of again going for the Sigma in this range as well.
Thanks for your review, Matthew, although I am still somewhat undecided between the two Sigma or Tamron wide-angle and standard-zoom lenses. I am an avid hiker and backpacker, so the smaller, lighter Tamrons are appealing; but I also photograph a good amount of architecture and interiors, so the wider-angle Sigma lens is most appealing. Given what I have just told you and myself, then a combination of the Sigma 14-24 mm and Tamron 28-75 mm may be the optimum solution for me. In any case, the 10 liter Moment sling bag would be the most accommodating for both of those lenses if I am one of the lucky ones to win. Thanks again for your good work, Matthew.
I’m curious what you ended up getting, the Sigma or Tamron wide. I’m in the same boat and am having a hard time justifying the extra money for the Sigma in this case, even though I love my Other Sigma lenses. Thanks
@@jdjames997 Hello, Jesse: I got the Sigma 14-24mm and combined it with a Tamron 28-200mm and a Sony A7 RII for a simplified 2-lens landscape and architecture photography kit when when weight and carrying capacity are not an issue. For hiking and backpacking, I bought the Sony 20mm f/1.8 to carry with the Tamron 28-200mm instead of the Sigma 14-24mm. All three lenses combined with the A7 RII's readily croppable 42mp standard image size, that can also be cropped to a still-usable 18mp in APS-C mode with ClearImage Zoom turned on for an effective range of 14mm-600mm-gives me great versatility. (200mm in APS-C equals 300mm. ClearImage Zoom can multiply that focal length by 2 for 600mm.) Also, the hype about the Sony 20mm f/1.8 is real. As another reviewer has said, you get 90% of the 24mm f/1.4 G-Master quality for two-thirds of its price. I am sorry if I busted your budget, but I am very excited about these investments now that I have learned more about the camera's focusing features to get the most out of the lenses and the camera's sensor. I recently learned that the camera's manual focus assist feature zooms 12.5x to a selected area for ultra precise focusing.
I always look forward to your reviews because of the detail - not just on resolution but usability - the key reason why I actually own the 28-75 and 17-28! Carrying my A7Riii with both of those in a shoulder bag can be comfortable all day. Eventually when budget permits, I'll change my old adapted G1 70-200 VC for the new 70-180 and weddings will hurt my back and shoulders no more! Would love the 10L bag - thanks again for your review.
Wow! Such a great and deep review! I most appreciate the comparision of field of view of these lenses and their sharpness. It helps so much to understand the possibilities of them. I find this video very useful, thank you! Keep creating!
Hey Matthew! Good on you for giving back to the subscriber base. If I could make one suggestion for your benefit only. If you are going to do a giveaway, post the review video first. I like to see creators like yourself get appropriate compensation for your work and I feel that people may be hesitant to use your affiliate links until you have completed your review, hence, not allowing your video to generate as much affiliate link revenue upon release as it could. Otherwise, this review was extremely helpful, in conjuction with your blog post, in guiding me towards my lens choice. If I was to choose between the 6L and the 10L I'd go with the 10L all the way. More the merrier! Thanks and best wishes for the future.
Thanks! I've been a photographer since the 1990s, but have only started shooting video recently, so I'm a complete novice... so I feel that it's better to leave reviews of video capabilities to people who know what they're doing until I have a couple more years experience.
Great Video!! I recently bought myself a sony camera and I've been studying your videos so could choose a lens, It looks as i might have to go with a tamron. The 6L would be great to start off my photography journey!!
Thanks Brant! There's a "Contact" link under the "About L&M" link on lightandmatter.org, but I don't make it TOO easy to find, since I prefer to have people ask questions in places on the site where other people can benefit from the answers. But my email address is matthew@lightandmatter.org , if you do feel like it :-)
They had a nice a deal on the B&H site for the Sigma 24-70 yesterday, and of course I looked you up to see what you thought of it compared to the 28-75. Thank you for all you do! The 10L would be great!
(6L bag.) Ive circled back to this video probably 7 times in the past 2 weeks. I really think I want to pick up the Tamron 17-28. I currently have the 28-75 and the 85mm f1.8 I'm considering returning my 28-75 as I don't find myself using the versatility all that often I ether shoot at 28 or 75 most of the time. and when at 28 I wish it were 24. I really think I might end up getting the 17-28 and the 35mm f.18. I think that having a fast 35 will be far more useful for what I shoot in terms of video and the 17-28 will open/challenge me to be more creative in my walk around street photography.
Thank you for this video. Most of the comparison videos for these lenses use the A7iii as the camera. Being the owner of an A7Rii I was looking for how they compare with that 42mp sensor found on the A7Rii and A7Riii. Great video. Thanks again.
I thought I was watching a Woody Allen movie. Not only was the video interesting and informative, but you also have a very unique form of narrating that I love. Cheers
Well since I carry all Tamron lenses I can only assume the 6 Litre bag would fill that slot. Thanks for finally releasing this video, here in Canada the price between tamron and the sigma is a whopping $900. I ended up going with the sigma for real estate because I didn’t want to shoot wider than 16 mm as it made the rooms look a bit fake. And the weight and size is also a plus. Great review as always and thanks!
@@MatthewGore This might be something you also want to mention in your videos that may seem dumb but are actually a big deal at least to me, I just switched from being a Nikon shooter my whole life and all their lenses twist to the right, I was very surprised when I picked up the sigma 24-70 and it was the opposite, especially with the awkward ergonomics the A7iii has (the camera body has very little room for your pinky). It wasn't a complete deal-breaker for me but when I added that together with the weight difference the lens had and the price it was enough for me to switch.
@@bradentrudeau6517 I'm sorry for my English, I have big hands, I solved this problem with an L Bracket. In my smallrig case, you can remove the left side if it bothers you. And you get that space underneath to be able to hold the camera better.
Your Sigma Tamron tri-factor review was compressive. I shoot a Sony A7III and is looking to get a 24-70mm, think I may go with the Sigma. The images captured for the trio review were fantastic, I particularly relished those from the Black Lives matter.
Great video, i have both tamron and was thinking on switching to sigma, but at the end, decided to stick to Tamron since I can use the same ND filter for both lenses and easy to handle in gimbal. I would love the 6L. Cheers from Costa Rica
Yes, the Tamron is definitely much cooler. These were processed with the color temp. set to "Daylight" for both lenses in ACR with no lens-specific profiles, but of course, if you leave it to auto white balance (in camera or in post), they come out with the colors looking pretty much identical.
Mmmm,I like the bigger bag because I can never figure out what I want to take. All my purchases have been late model Tamron.I don’t have a mirrorless camera but I shoot Nikons. Thank you, great review.
Awesome review. The Sigma looks very professional as all their Art Lenses do. The sharpness and resolution of both lenses seem to be about equal unless your pixel peeping. The price and weight of the tamron makes it more attractive for budget conscious photographers and vloggers alike. 10L bag please.
Triple-A for effort, detail and useful information! Subbed :) Even if your decision ends up largely made on price, this video gives you a fabulous spectrum of info on the two lenses! I screen capped the comparison image between the wide angles you produced - this should help me decide what level of wide I really need. I could probably get away with 18-20mm prime, for the walking and talking with the camera at arm's length, without the shot getting too tight after stabilizing the video in post, using Sony's Gyro data...
Much like you, I prefer to travel as light as possible, so the Tamron 17-28mm is a no brainer for me. Likewise, the 6L would be the move for me, as well!
I'm a sigma fanboy, and i've been planning to get the sigma 24-70 as my first lens for my new a7r3, but ye gods I did not expect it to be so heavy. Now that I've felt it in my hands without a lens I'm definitely gravitating towards the much lighter tamron. And I hope I'm not too late, I'd love the 10L :)
I originally bought the Tamron for my a7r3 ... 2 days later, I returned it for the sigma. Sigma is superior by far if you are using a resolution camera. I'm sure the Tamron would be good enough for a a73 but not an a7r3.
I own a Tamron 17-35mm f2.8-4.5 versatile and sharp enough for my use. after this video are you reviewing Tamron 28-200mm f2.8-5.6 cos some users find it sharp enough and yet versatile that they sold their Tamron 28-75mm to buy this lens? Last time you indicated are really not that interested have you changed your mind?
I struggle between travelling light, and wanting to be prepared for anything, which is why I would roll with the 10L. I honestly thought it money weren't an issue, I'd go Sigma. But the weight and cost savings are substantial, and I don't care for lens controls, other than af/mf switch.
Agreed. I don't care about the lens controls, generally (the MF switch is nice), but I AM a sucker for a sharp, high resolution lens. That used to be all that I cared about... I'd happily carry a few extra pounds of glass for a slightly sharper lens. Maybe I don't care as much now because I mostly publish online.
Amazing video, just what I was looking for so big thank you. You flashed up at the end the Rokinon AF 14mm f/2.8 FE, obviously a prime but I wonder how that compared?
I was only mentioning it as a focal length match; I haven't spent enough time with it to really be able to compare it with the Sigma for image quality. It seems like a good lens to me, but that's mostly just from playing around with it when it's on friends' cameras. I'll have to do an in-depth review at some point :-)
@@MatthewGore Yeah they seem to make some very decent primes at amazing prices. I am looking to get A7iv + Tamron 35-150 (the perfect lens for me for 90% of my wedding days) then add a wide lens and maybe a fast prime. I just can't decide what! As you said in your video 20mm is probably wide enough most of the time so would I be much better off with a really fast Sigma 20mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art Lens at only $899? Are you thinking of review the Tam 35-150?
@@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt I've actually been working on a review of the Tamron 35-150 for a while now, and optically it is awesome. I haven't published the review because, in the months that I shot with it, I never really managed to take any good pictures... the weather has been awful, and I haven't been able to get out of my own neighborhood a whole lot. But it's coming soon. The wide end... that's really a matter of personal taste. Personally, I'm just not very good at taking photos with ultra wide angle lenses... probably because I never had access to them when I was younger and was learning how to compose pictures... and I'm working on it, but not making much progress :-) So, if you're good with ultra-wides, or want to get good with them, then get what will help you. There are plenty of good photographers out there who never shoot wider than 24mm or even 35mm, so it's all just a matter of what you want to achieve. Good luck!
@@MatthewGore I know what you mean about wide lenses, I rarely use my 24-70 at 24mm which is why the 35-150 looks to be such a good lens for me, can't wait for your review. Don't sell yourself short either, some of those wide shots in the above video were really good, as you say getting close whilst keeping a lot in the frame is cool like your market stall image, then on the corner of a building seeing down both streets is clever and the long exposure shots of the all the roads were really good. My wide angle shots are more of a necessity of wedding photography, when you don't have much room or you want to get the dress to fill most of the image or on the dance floor etc. Keep up the great work.
It's weird to see how Seattle looks in TLOU 2; when you're heading to the aquarium, in the game you have to navigate the Alaskan Way Viaduct, an elevated highway along the waterfront. In real life, though, that was torn down several years ago... and of course, this part of the park that fell into the Sound is now gone... so the game is like visiting Seattle's past, in the future. It makes sense in the game's timeline, though.
Great comparison. I just moved up to full frame with the Sony A7iv. Which one of these lenses would you recommend for landscape astrophotography? Probably the main use for one of these lenses. Thanks!
They're both great lenses. I don't shoot astro much, so I can't give you a definitive answer (you probably saw that my brief attempts were thwarted by the moon during this review). Since they're both going to let in the same amount of light, and they're both nice and sharp, and coma is only an issue in the extreme corners for both, I'd recommend going with the zoom range that you prefer... if you want something as wide as 14mm, then the choice is obvious. If you don't care about it being that wide, then the 17-28 is much cheaper and lighter. If you'd be satisfied with a 20mm field of view, then also consider the new Sigma 20mm f/2, which will double the amount of light you can gather and has excellent image quality. bhpho.to/3JHwh92
@@schmoldovia I tried out the full-frame Panasonic cameras at WPPI right when they came out, but not much more than that. At the time, they seemed heavy and the AF was , as you say... unique. It would be a hard system to stay with for me... but they do have some nice lenses. If there are any less expensive lenses for L-mount, I don't know what they are :-)
I've been a photographer for 25 years, but I don't really do video... so I wouldn't really know what I'm talking about any more than any other random guy on the street. That's probably something best left for other channels to deal with.
Another fantastic review, Matthew. Your approach is brilliant and well structured! Thanks for taking the time to make these videos. :) For the giveaway entry - 10L
Great review, but your comment sigma is slightly sharper is just wrong,,,sigma is clearly/much sharper right from F2.8 at al FLs. Sigma is simply a UW gem for e-mount.
No filter thread, but it does have a rear filter holder... and of course it can accept those big square filters on the front amzn.to/3df193M (or big circular ones, I guess...amzn.to/3a7ZKK9) . Just to be fair :-) They do, of course, add more to the price difference.
Video well presented, audio is clean and very clear, very watchable, THANK YOU! I also have the Tamron trinity and love them all and weight plays a big part in all this. BTW - Would love either bag, beggars can't (Shouldn't) be choosey. Keep up the good work! ;-)
The filters killed it for me on the Sigma. I could justify the extra price if it wasn't for that, and it "seems" like it would be the easiest flaw to change if we somehow could magically change flaws about lenses.
Agreed. If you use a lot of filters, that would be a significant drawback for the Sigma. There are filter holders that can attach to the front of the lens, but they'll be square/rectangular, and no VNDs.
That's true. Since I made this video, Sigma has also released a 16-28mm lens, amzn.to/3NICW8t which addresses some of the concerns that I have about the 14-24. I haven't tested it myself, yet, though.
10L! :) After purchasing the 17-28, I found myself wanting a bit more range on the narrower end. I know it comes at the cost of weight saving, but had the Tamron been a 17-35, it would have been an amazing lens (for me). It would be fast enough as well as being a wide enough lens for astro with a zoom that would minimize distortion for some city or full body portrait... without the need to switch to a different lens
A few comments: I'm astounded by the crowd at Bernie's rally in Tacoma. Puts Biden's rallies to shame. Once again the establishment robbed Bernie of his nomination! I've shot the grain bins (at 13:07). It may have been decades ago, but would need to dig out my transparencies to be sure. If the shots were digital (and therefore more recent), then I've since lost them in a crash (because I know I don't have any existing digital shots of them). At 14:50, the best explanation I've ever seen of why lenses of this type are subject to lens flare!
Hey Everyone! It looks as though there was a de-centering issue with my Tamron. Where there was some extra softness away from the center of the image, I discovered that the opposite side of the image was actually sharper. So, there's even less difference in resolution (assuming you have a well adjusted Tamron) than the video indicates. See the 17mm images in the review on my site: www.lightandmatter.org/2020/videos/lens-comparisons/sigma-14-24mm-f-2-8-vs-tamron-17-28mm-f-2-8-for-sony-e-mount-review-comparison/
Mine too was de-centered, so I returned it and got the Sigma.
Is this a common problem? How could I check this when buying?
@@cryptostroka Decentering is a fairly common problem with all lenses of every brand, really (some lenses are worse than others, I guess)... but not especially bad with this Tamron or Tamron lenses generally. Some lenses (Leica, for example) that are produced in small numbers don't exhibit these problems initially, but even they may develop over time. That said, it is pretty much a non-issue in real world use. Remember, I'm looking at these images at 100% magnification with a 42 megapixel camera... and the differences were still quite minor, generally. They may not be visible at all on a 24 megapixel camera. Still, if you're concerned about it, there are some tests that you can do to check for decentering... a Google search will turn them up.
@@cryptostroka It appears to be fairly common - leading to higher than usual return rates at Amazon, for example. After you buy a new lens, I would suggest to take it to someone who can examine (or learn how to yourself), so you can ask for exchange...
I shot this video on an A7RIII, and I've owned the Tamron for years, now. It's not as sharp as the Sigma in some places, but it's still very sharp. I did have an issue with decentering when I got it, but after having it adjusted, it's been great.
I own the Tamron 17-28. I'd like the 6L bag. It does go to only 17mm but seeing how casually and care free I can use it anywhere without having to worry about the front element is really a boon. plus it takes front filters, really light and compact. Should be great for vlogging.
7.48 buildings look more incline on Tamron, Tamron on some close ups show better color and more natural on the brick and grey building. Sigma overal looks a bit sharper but also 400.00 more of course
There are some minor differences in color representation, but as with all cameras, judging which is best is a matter of taste... and you can always improve its accuracy by using a color checker and creating a custom profile for it. Both great lenses, in my opinion.
Matthew, another fantastic lens review. Your attention to detail, calm well reasoned presentation and masterful video has brought me back to your site time and again. I have the Tamron 28-75 and find it really fits my needs. After your video I plan to add the 17-28 to my kit. Thanks for your dedication to your audience. The 6L bag is my preference.
It's a heart vs head battle for me. I really like the 14mm end off the Sigma, but wanting it is not the same as needing it. Budget and weight will tip the scale in my case. Thanks for yet another great comparison.
The 6L would be great
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Thank you for producing and sharing this in-depth comparison between Sigma and Tamron. I actually invested in the Tamron lenses because of the balance of affordability, weight and quality including the same sharing of the same thread size for filters. This increased the convenience for travel photography. With the amazing Moment 10L bag, it completes my dream of having everything I need in one bag as my travel companion to take amazing great images to tell of stories, beauty and culture.
omg I was so shocked at the whole thing where the construction thing collapsed & then you just continued with your review LOLL 😭😭
THIS VIDEO ! HANDS DOWN the best Focal Length explanation EVER !
Excellent review, I also purchased the tamron, but shortly after found a great deal for a sigma 20mm f1.4 purchased necessary filters for its bulbous front element and haven’t used tamron since cause 20 is wide enough for me. I however see the tamron as something I will use on a gimbal or for when I do not want size and weight of 20. But the 14-24 is intriguing to me plus the filters I use on the 20 will also work on the front of the 14 24. So I see a future sigma purchase. Again great review, great images as well. And 6 tote works for me. I also would add yes I am old as well but I don’t fret the weight of good lenses. For me the Sigma is sexier.
Hi Matthew! I almost gave up hope.. I have the Tamron 17-28mm and want to switch to the Sigma. I already watched all the videos on this topic...(including the German videos :) ) and then you uploaded your video! Thank you so much! I'm going for the Sigma. I also wasn't aware of the Moment Sling bags, finally, a bag to hold my lenses while I switch from the Tamron 28-75 to my future 14-24mm :). I would enjoy the 6L version.
Great video, and keep it up.. I'm going to follow your channel.
Glad you found the video useful :-)
Are you happy with the Sigma? What were your reasons for not keeping the Tamron? I'm debating myself which one to get. Leaning towards the Tamron because it takes front filters and it's lightweight and compact.
There's just something about sigma I enjoy & I use both company lenses. I'm waiting to see their 70-200 f2.8 e-mount.
Your review style is very calming & informative.
The 10L bag would be my choice
I sometimes wonder if these companies have worked closely together along with Sony to plan their products and roadmap. They all seem to hit a point in the market perfectly - no complaints!
Excellent as always. Based on your review (24-70 vs 28-75) I bought the bigger and heavier Sigma, so I prefer the bigger 10l bag :)
Good review, appreciate your honesty. This is one of those choices where the Sigma is clearly better, but at what cost? Not just money but weight and portability. If I was taking landscape or architecture shots and getting paid to do so, the Sigma would clearly make sense, and you’d just hoof it around and deal with it. I have several Sigma lenses, & love them. But this one is hard to justify for $1,300-1,400. I’m not getting paid to shoot shots that it’s capable of. It may be worth it if you need it all the time, but for me the Tamron is probably good enough most of the time. I could take the $500+ savings and buy more gear, or just save the money. I WANT the Sigma, but I don’t need it. The other issue is resale, I will say the Sigma lenses (especially ART) go for a premium on eBay, even used. So there’s that to consider, but your going to loose on both on crazy ebay fees reselling them. Carrying around a heavy lens for occasional use seems silly, my other Sigma lenses already make by backpack too heavy….
That's how I feel about it too, although for me, the flare issue with the Sigma is a serious consideration. The other thing is that for a lot of people who are shooting with 24 megapixel cameras instead of 42, the differences seen in this video (pretty minor) would be negligible. Still, I continue to shoot with the Tamron because I own it and don't feel like selling it, and I never feel as though my images aren't sharp enough or wide enough... but I so sorta wish that I had waited a bit longer and bought the Sigma.
I'm looking to buy my first interchangeable lens camera and I'm struggling to pick out lenses to start out with. I'm buying the camera more for video, and a lot of the stuff I plan to work on will be interior stuff so I think the extra 3mm of the Sigma would benefit me greatly. But that Tamron seems like such a great bang for the buck lens with not much quality drop off except for the 3mm wide angle difference. Because of the great value in the Tamron, it makes sense to go with their 28-70 mid zoom lens, but if I go for the 3mm in the Sigma, I'm missing out on the 25-27mm range by going with Tamron instead of again going for the Sigma in this range as well.
Thanks for your review, Matthew, although I am still somewhat undecided between the two Sigma or Tamron wide-angle and standard-zoom lenses. I am an avid hiker and backpacker, so the smaller, lighter Tamrons are appealing; but I also photograph a good amount of architecture and interiors, so the wider-angle Sigma lens is most appealing. Given what I have just told you and myself, then a combination of the Sigma 14-24 mm and Tamron 28-75 mm may be the optimum solution for me. In any case, the 10 liter Moment sling bag would be the most accommodating for both of those lenses if I am one of the lucky ones to win. Thanks again for your good work, Matthew.
I’m curious what you ended up getting, the Sigma or Tamron wide. I’m in the same boat and am having a hard time justifying the extra money for the Sigma in this case, even though I love my Other Sigma lenses. Thanks
@@jdjames997 Hello, Jesse: I got the Sigma 14-24mm and combined it with a Tamron 28-200mm and a Sony A7 RII for a simplified 2-lens landscape and architecture photography kit when when weight and carrying capacity are not an issue. For hiking and backpacking, I bought the Sony 20mm f/1.8 to carry with the Tamron 28-200mm instead of the Sigma 14-24mm. All three lenses combined with the A7 RII's readily croppable 42mp standard image size, that can also be cropped to a still-usable 18mp in APS-C mode with ClearImage Zoom turned on for an effective range of 14mm-600mm-gives me great versatility. (200mm in APS-C equals 300mm. ClearImage Zoom can multiply that focal length by 2 for 600mm.) Also, the hype about the Sony 20mm f/1.8 is real. As another reviewer has said, you get 90% of the 24mm f/1.4 G-Master quality for two-thirds of its price.
I am sorry if I busted your budget, but I am very excited about these investments now that I have learned more about the camera's focusing features to get the most out of the lenses and the camera's sensor. I recently learned that the camera's manual focus assist feature zooms 12.5x to a selected area for ultra precise focusing.
I always look forward to your reviews because of the detail - not just on resolution but usability - the key reason why I actually own the 28-75 and 17-28! Carrying my A7Riii with both of those in a shoulder bag can be comfortable all day.
Eventually when budget permits, I'll change my old adapted G1 70-200 VC for the new 70-180 and weddings will hurt my back and shoulders no more!
Would love the 10L bag - thanks again for your review.
Wow! Such a great and deep review! I most appreciate the comparision of field of view of these lenses and their sharpness. It helps so much to understand the possibilities of them. I find this video very useful, thank you! Keep creating!
Hey Matthew!
Good on you for giving back to the subscriber base. If I could make one suggestion for your benefit only. If you are going to do a giveaway, post the review video first. I like to see creators like yourself get appropriate compensation for your work and I feel that people may be hesitant to use your affiliate links until you have completed your review, hence, not allowing your video to generate as much affiliate link revenue upon release as it could.
Otherwise, this review was extremely helpful, in conjuction with your blog post, in guiding me towards my lens choice. If I was to choose between the 6L and the 10L I'd go with the 10L all the way. More the merrier!
Thanks and best wishes for the future.
This was a phenomenal breakdown. I would have loved to see a video comparison. Which has better stabilization or produces better quality.
Thanks! I've been a photographer since the 1990s, but have only started shooting video recently, so I'm a complete novice... so I feel that it's better to leave reviews of video capabilities to people who know what they're doing until I have a couple more years experience.
I'd like the 10L bag
Great review thanks! Going with the Tamron for the weight factor, price, and I’ll never shoot wider than about 18mm anyway.
Thanks! I ended up feeling the same way, though I do really like the Sigma lens, too.
Great Video!! I recently bought myself a sony camera and I've been studying your videos so could choose a lens, It looks as i might have to go with a tamron.
The 6L would be great to start off my photography journey!!
Good review. I own the tammy and like it a lot. Tho in some situations I would like to use a wide lens. Winning the 10L one would be great
Love this comparison, thanks for the detail. I tried emailing you on your website but don't see a way to do so.
Thanks Brant! There's a "Contact" link under the "About L&M" link on lightandmatter.org, but I don't make it TOO easy to find, since I prefer to have people ask questions in places on the site where other people can benefit from the answers. But my email address is matthew@lightandmatter.org , if you do feel like it :-)
They had a nice a deal on the B&H site for the Sigma 24-70 yesterday, and of course I looked you up to see what you thought of it compared to the 28-75. Thank you for all you do! The 10L would be great!
Excellent review between the two lens. Can't wait for the review on 70-300 Tamron lens. I would like to get the 10L sling bag
(6L bag.) Ive circled back to this video probably 7 times in the past 2 weeks. I really think I want to pick up the Tamron 17-28. I currently have the 28-75 and the 85mm f1.8 I'm considering returning my 28-75 as I don't find myself using the versatility all that often I ether shoot at 28 or 75 most of the time. and when at 28 I wish it were 24. I really think I might end up getting the 17-28 and the 35mm f.18. I think that having a fast 35 will be far more useful for what I shoot in terms of video and the 17-28 will open/challenge me to be more creative in my walk around street photography.
Thank you for this video. Most of the comparison videos for these lenses use the A7iii as the camera. Being the owner of an A7Rii I was looking for how they compare with that 42mp sensor found on the A7Rii and A7Riii. Great video. Thanks again.
The 6 litre would be a great addition to my small kit. Thanks for the video comparison!
I thought I was watching a Woody Allen movie. Not only was the video interesting and informative, but you also have a very unique form of narrating that I love. Cheers
Glad you found it useful!
Well since I carry all Tamron lenses I can only assume the 6 Litre bag would fill that slot. Thanks for finally releasing this video, here in Canada the price between tamron and the sigma is a whopping $900. I ended up going with the sigma for real estate because I didn’t want to shoot wider than 16 mm as it made the rooms look a bit fake. And the weight and size is also a plus. Great review as always and thanks!
Hey Braden, glad you liked the video. I almost abandoned it entirely, since I had so much trouble shooting for it, but it worked out ok in the end :-)
@@MatthewGore This might be something you also want to mention in your videos that may seem dumb but are actually a big deal at least to me, I just switched from being a Nikon shooter my whole life and all their lenses twist to the right, I was very surprised when I picked up the sigma 24-70 and it was the opposite, especially with the awkward ergonomics the A7iii has (the camera body has very little room for your pinky). It wasn't a complete deal-breaker for me but when I added that together with the weight difference the lens had and the price it was enough for me to switch.
@@bradentrudeau6517 A good reminder, thanks! This is something that I used to mention in my videos more often, but I haven't recently.
@@bradentrudeau6517 I'm sorry for my English, I have big hands, I solved this problem with an L Bracket. In my smallrig case, you can remove the left side if it bothers you. And you get that space underneath to be able to hold the camera better.
Your Sigma Tamron tri-factor review was compressive. I shoot a Sony A7III and is looking to get a 24-70mm, think I may go with the Sigma. The images captured for the trio review were fantastic, I particularly relished those from the Black Lives matter.
Great video, i have both tamron and was thinking on switching to sigma, but at the end, decided to stick to Tamron since I can use the same ND filter for both lenses and easy to handle in gimbal. I would love the 6L. Cheers from Costa Rica
Wonderful clear reviews! Either bag size is fine. Thanks.
I actually watched this full screen on a 5k monitor :-) I like the colors from the Tamron. They seem "cooler" than the Sigma's.
Yes, the Tamron is definitely much cooler. These were processed with the color temp. set to "Daylight" for both lenses in ACR with no lens-specific profiles, but of course, if you leave it to auto white balance (in camera or in post), they come out with the colors looking pretty much identical.
I own both lenses and largely agree with your assessment, I enjoy using both.
Mmmm,I like the bigger bag because I can never figure out what I want to take. All my purchases have been late model Tamron.I don’t have a mirrorless camera but I shoot Nikons. Thank you, great review.
Awesome review. The Sigma looks very professional as all their Art Lenses do. The sharpness and resolution of both lenses seem to be about equal unless your pixel peeping.
The price and weight of the tamron makes it more attractive for budget conscious photographers and vloggers alike. 10L bag please.
Triple-A for effort, detail and useful information! Subbed :)
Even if your decision ends up largely made on price, this video gives you a fabulous spectrum of info on the two lenses!
I screen capped the comparison image between the wide angles you produced - this should help me decide what level of wide I really need.
I could probably get away with 18-20mm prime, for the walking and talking with the camera at arm's length, without the shot getting too tight after stabilizing the video in post, using Sony's Gyro data...
The weight information is useful for my awareness...due to age.... I prefer the 6L bag by the way.
Yeah, it's increasingly important to me, too, obviously :-)
Much like you, I prefer to travel as light as possible, so the Tamron 17-28mm is a no brainer for me. Likewise, the 6L would be the move for me, as well!
I'm a sigma fanboy, and i've been planning to get the sigma 24-70 as my first lens for my new a7r3, but ye gods I did not expect it to be so heavy. Now that I've felt it in my hands without a lens I'm definitely gravitating towards the much lighter tamron. And I hope I'm not too late, I'd love the 10L :)
I originally bought the Tamron for my a7r3 ... 2 days later, I returned it for the sigma. Sigma is superior by far if you are using a resolution camera. I'm sure the Tamron would be good enough for a a73 but not an a7r3.
Thank you very much for the review! It helps a lot and my go-to will be the Sigma now ... but that's why I am forced to safe a bit more money to buy
Very comprehensive comparison, and I do learn something from this video. Thank you!
Aye, I was at the Bernie rally too!
I own a Tamron 17-35mm f2.8-4.5 versatile and sharp enough for my use.
after this video are you reviewing Tamron 28-200mm f2.8-5.6 cos some users find it sharp enough and yet versatile that they sold their Tamron 28-75mm to buy this lens? Last time you indicated are really not that interested have you changed your mind?
Hmm. I'm working on the Tamron 70-300 right now, and after that I'll have to see. The 28-200 still doesn't really grab me.
@@MatthewGore Fair Comment. The reason I ask cos I value your review, very detail and accurate and not too long.
I gotta give it to the Sigma. Those extra mm's are essential in some situations.
and, 10L, por favor! 😊
Have a great day!
The Sigma is definitely awesome. I need to practice with that 14mm end, I think.
I struggle between travelling light, and wanting to be prepared for anything, which is why I would roll with the 10L. I honestly thought it money weren't an issue, I'd go Sigma. But the weight and cost savings are substantial, and I don't care for lens controls, other than af/mf switch.
Agreed. I don't care about the lens controls, generally (the MF switch is nice), but I AM a sucker for a sharp, high resolution lens. That used to be all that I cared about... I'd happily carry a few extra pounds of glass for a slightly sharper lens. Maybe I don't care as much now because I mostly publish online.
I would prefer the 10 litre sling bag. Enjoy your videos, please keep them coming!
Please do a video comparing Tamron 28-200 f2.8-f5.6 and Sony 24-105 f4..... thanks.
Amazing video, just what I was looking for so big thank you.
You flashed up at the end the Rokinon AF 14mm f/2.8 FE, obviously a prime but I wonder how that compared?
I was only mentioning it as a focal length match; I haven't spent enough time with it to really be able to compare it with the Sigma for image quality. It seems like a good lens to me, but that's mostly just from playing around with it when it's on friends' cameras. I'll have to do an in-depth review at some point :-)
@@MatthewGore Yeah they seem to make some very decent primes at amazing prices.
I am looking to get A7iv + Tamron 35-150 (the perfect lens for me for 90% of my wedding days) then add a wide lens and maybe a fast prime. I just can't decide what! As you said in your video 20mm is probably wide enough most of the time so would I be much better off with a really fast Sigma 20mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art Lens at only $899?
Are you thinking of review the Tam 35-150?
@@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt I've actually been working on a review of the Tamron 35-150 for a while now, and optically it is awesome. I haven't published the review because, in the months that I shot with it, I never really managed to take any good pictures... the weather has been awful, and I haven't been able to get out of my own neighborhood a whole lot. But it's coming soon. The wide end... that's really a matter of personal taste. Personally, I'm just not very good at taking photos with ultra wide angle lenses... probably because I never had access to them when I was younger and was learning how to compose pictures... and I'm working on it, but not making much progress :-) So, if you're good with ultra-wides, or want to get good with them, then get what will help you. There are plenty of good photographers out there who never shoot wider than 24mm or even 35mm, so it's all just a matter of what you want to achieve. Good luck!
@@MatthewGore I know what you mean about wide lenses, I rarely use my 24-70 at 24mm which is why the 35-150 looks to be such a good lens for me, can't wait for your review. Don't sell yourself short either, some of those wide shots in the above video were really good, as you say getting close whilst keeping a lot in the frame is cool like your market stall image, then on the corner of a building seeing down both streets is clever and the long exposure shots of the all the roads were really good. My wide angle shots are more of a necessity of wedding photography, when you don't have much room or you want to get the dress to fill most of the image or on the dance floor etc.
Keep up the great work.
I recognized the acquarium from TLOU 2, great review I just bought the sigma and I am having great results.
It's weird to see how Seattle looks in TLOU 2; when you're heading to the aquarium, in the game you have to navigate the Alaskan Way Viaduct, an elevated highway along the waterfront. In real life, though, that was torn down several years ago... and of course, this part of the park that fell into the Sound is now gone... so the game is like visiting Seattle's past, in the future. It makes sense in the game's timeline, though.
@@MatthewGore I will have to come a visit one day, the north of the east coast is in my bucket list, greetings from Italy
Thank for this review I've been looking to pick one of these up. 6L please
Very impressed with your video! Definitely deserves the sub. Excellent comparison
Phenomenal review. Thank you!
Would take either the 6L oder the 10L :)
Nice video as always!
nice comparision! Just what I was looking for
excellent review! thanks!
I'd go for the 10L bag. It looks great and would probably be a better fit with my dslr setup.
Totally hoped there was a review of these two lenses...and lo and behold you posted one 2 days ago. Nice. 10L cheers
Great comparison. I just moved up to full frame with the Sony A7iv. Which one of these lenses would you recommend for landscape astrophotography? Probably the main use for one of these lenses. Thanks!
They're both great lenses. I don't shoot astro much, so I can't give you a definitive answer (you probably saw that my brief attempts were thwarted by the moon during this review). Since they're both going to let in the same amount of light, and they're both nice and sharp, and coma is only an issue in the extreme corners for both, I'd recommend going with the zoom range that you prefer... if you want something as wide as 14mm, then the choice is obvious. If you don't care about it being that wide, then the 17-28 is much cheaper and lighter. If you'd be satisfied with a 20mm field of view, then also consider the new Sigma 20mm f/2, which will double the amount of light you can gather and has excellent image quality. bhpho.to/3JHwh92
I’m a fan of the 14-24. Just a superb lens. Nice review here. If I’m the lucky winner, 10L bag would be awesome!
Great review and gave me a lot of information. I really appreciate you
If the giveaway is still ongoing I’d love to have the 10L and replace my amazon one.
Wish Sony would make a 15-35mm OSS f2.8, like Canon did with their RF system
never have seen a better comparision video ... too bad that i moved into the L-mounted world ... therefore i don't have the chance to try the tamron.
Thanks! Luckily, there's no shortage of great lenses for L-mount, including this Sigma.
@@schmoldovia I tried out the full-frame Panasonic cameras at WPPI right when they came out, but not much more than that. At the time, they seemed heavy and the AF was , as you say... unique. It would be a hard system to stay with for me... but they do have some nice lenses. If there are any less expensive lenses for L-mount, I don't know what they are :-)
Great to see other Seattle Photojournalists!
Yes, good to see you here, too! Though, I may not be for much longer, if housing prices keep skyrocketing like they have been for the past decade...
Sigma 14-24 DG DN is the Best!! 👍
I need the 10lts bag please and thank you for this review as I am on the market for my next wide angle lens
Please compare videos also
I've been a photographer for 25 years, but I don't really do video... so I wouldn't really know what I'm talking about any more than any other random guy on the street. That's probably something best left for other channels to deal with.
Yes!! I've been waiting for this review
Great review. Thank you so much !!!
Another fantastic review, Matthew. Your approach is brilliant and well structured! Thanks for taking the time to make these videos. :)
For the giveaway entry - 10L
Which one would you recommend for real estate videography?
excellent review, thank you. I prefer 10L
Great review, but your comment sigma is slightly sharper is just wrong,,,sigma is clearly/much sharper right from F2.8 at al FLs. Sigma is simply a UW gem for e-mount.
great video reviews, appreciate the effort. loved the 24-70 video too. ; )
WoW, You really did good job!
Thanks Henry, glad you liked it!
Great review!
0:55 made the fastest decision making I've ever had.....no filter thread is an instant no for me.
No filter thread, but it does have a rear filter holder... and of course it can accept those big square filters on the front amzn.to/3df193M (or big circular ones, I guess...amzn.to/3a7ZKK9) . Just to be fair :-) They do, of course, add more to the price difference.
I'll prefer the 6 liter bcoz it'll be more convenient to carry
And yeah the Tamron lens is great I'll be buying it in 2021❤️
Thats a pin point review of these 2 lenses. I'm actually inclined more towards sigma now :) Thanks to you. I would go for 6L bag. Cheers.
I have the Sigma 24-70 and 100-400 insanely good image quality from both lenses on my a7rii. Planning on adding the 14-24 to my bag
Video well presented, audio is clean and very clear, very watchable, THANK YOU! I also have the Tamron trinity and love them all and weight plays a big part in all this. BTW - Would love either bag, beggars can't (Shouldn't) be choosey. Keep up the good work! ;-)
I’m loving how light these lenses are getting while still keeping the quality up! Does that mean I’m getting old too?😂
I’d love that 10L bag BTW!
The filters killed it for me on the Sigma. I could justify the extra price if it wasn't for that, and it "seems" like it would be the easiest flaw to change if we somehow could magically change flaws about lenses.
Agreed. If you use a lot of filters, that would be a significant drawback for the Sigma. There are filter holders that can attach to the front of the lens, but they'll be square/rectangular, and no VNDs.
I'd prefer a 10L version. Very useful for me
There’s still a very significant kind of price difference between tamron and sigma lenses
That's true. Since I made this video, Sigma has also released a 16-28mm lens, amzn.to/3NICW8t which addresses some of the concerns that I have about the 14-24. I haven't tested it myself, yet, though.
10L! :) After purchasing the 17-28, I found myself wanting a bit more range on the narrower end. I know it comes at the cost of weight saving, but had the Tamron been a 17-35, it would have been an amazing lens (for me). It would be fast enough as well as being a wide enough lens for astro with a zoom that would minimize distortion for some city or full body portrait... without the need to switch to a different lens
Great testing 👌
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Very good comparison
Thanks Jack!
Hi! I would like to win the 10L version! Congrats on the video, very detailed and nicely put together.
Very good. Hermano, from Brazil.
A few comments:
I'm astounded by the crowd at Bernie's rally in Tacoma. Puts Biden's rallies to shame. Once again the establishment robbed Bernie of his nomination!
I've shot the grain bins (at 13:07). It may have been decades ago, but would need to dig out my transparencies to be sure. If the shots were digital (and therefore more recent), then I've since lost them in a crash (because I know I don't have any existing digital shots of them).
At 14:50, the best explanation I've ever seen of why lenses of this type are subject to lens flare!
Great video! Thank you so much!
Glad you found it helpful :-)
Nice comparison! thanks a lot! (6 lt would be my choice)
The 10 is a better fit. And a detailed review.