Fabricating a steel flat bed for a Ford F-350 Part 1 of 3
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- čas přidán 24. 10. 2016
- In this video we take you along as we get going on the steel flat bed for my friends Ford F-350.
Part 1 is all about the base, the structure under the bed that holds everything up.
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Great video! No blaring music, no stupid selfie shots and blabbering away about yourself, just good voice over when needed and good shots of your work. Big thumbs up!
Thanks for watching and commenting
7 yr old video still kickin a$$! Thank you for your knowledge, from a beginner.
This guy took he’s time to show he’s project, that not other people can’t do so i really love this video good job sr
What did you said..?
Lol
Thank you for uploading this👍🏼
Good job you don't mess around i been looking for a good video on how to make a good flatbed for my old work truck ill be watching all 3 videos 😁👍👍👍👍
I recently learned how to weld and have been thinking about putting a flatbed on my F350 dually. This awesome video has shown that this project is definitely doable. Thank you for posting this video!!
I own welders, have never learned how to weld (I'm an engineer) don't have time, AND, I need a truck bed for my 2011 F250 which is about to fly off on the interstate. Maybe you and I could be best friends once you master this! LOL Did you ever do it Dave? I'm curious. This is a great video indeed.
@@brentbarnhart5827 Hi Brent,
Yep unfortunately I never got around to making a flat bed for my F-350. Just a lack of free time for such a project, mainly. Since I now have 263,000 miles on the truck (she still runs perfectly) I probably will no longer venture down the flat bed route for it. For my next truck…..maybe!
@@djosbun same page as you..... but the bed is in horrible shape...
Wood & Metal Workshop, tip cleaner for the mig. Welders works very well to prevent weld-splatter from sticking in the threads of the bolts/nuts you weld on.
I came across this video today and I am going to start building a flatbed on Chevy C30 dump truck. Thanks for this educative video.
Thanks for watching and commenting
Man. You sure did a nice job making a rainbow out of that drivers side bottom rail when you welded that half round back in for the fuel fill!! I can’t believe you didn’t straighten it back out with a sledge hammer !!??
Never built a metal flatbed ON THE TRUCK before...sure looks a LOT MORE DIFFICULT than just fabbing it on the floor, once you have your dimensions...wow!
Great job I am thinking about building one for my super duty as well
Thanks for watching and go for it!
Ive always wanted to weld. Thanks for the inspiration!
GREAT!!
Me to I will give it a try have to start somewhere thanks for the vid!
You did a hell of a job, I'm Getting ready to replace my rusted out F-250 bed with a flat, want to make it custom my trade as a contractor, have any advice?
damn, not cleaning off the mill scale is killing me, i know its your garage though so whatever floats your boat. also, i dont know if this is personal or work but you should really consider a fiberglass drop under the frame when working on the flatbed, from my miserable experience, brake lines burn through really easily. a nice size one is actually cheaper then one hose and lasts a lot longer.
did like 30 measurements on those rails going from side to side to make sure the overhang was just perfect, but not one single measurement to make sure it was square.
I noticed that too. Was wonder how many comments I was gonna pass before someone mentioned it. Passed 3 comments and You sir...are the winner 🏆
Frame rails on trucks are rarely if ever square with the body.
When making the brackets for the base, did you just start with the front and then use a level to get the lengths?
I enjoyed watching. No fooling around. Measure it and get to welding. No standing around scratching your head.
I'm building my own flatbed for an OBS F250 right now based on your design. Video is such a great way to convey information. Thanks for this!
Have fun!
Great video. Even better no music to be subjected too.
a lot of armchair 1/4 backs on here, don't waste your time disconnecting your battery not needed.been doing this for 30 years now and never a problem. good job looks nice.
i am doing the same. i looked under a lot of flatbeds coming into the business and they all use either 3 inch or 3 inch channel for bedrails, not tubing
mistype 4 inch channel
They do that for cost and ease of mounting, I prefer tube, thanks for the comment
What wall thickness is the frame your building. I pick up my truck tomorrow and need to pick up metal to start bed build. Will be on my channel too.
Thanks in a million. Great content. Awesome imagination. Grade: A++💥
Thanks for watching and commenting
I watched all 3 videos for one piece of information and it was left out...i wanted to see how the main rails are attached to the frame rails of the truck via the welded nut inside the frame, and how the flatbed can be removed or put back on if one needs to remove the bed for maintenance or to change to another truck. Seems like a pretty important part to show.
There are captured nuts inside the spacers and bolts go through the existing holes in the truck frame. You can access them from below to install and remove
Cool intro.
Love the video and the job very well detailed . My question is how thick is the tube , floor sheet and rear plate thanks in advance
The decking is 1/8, rear is 1/4 and iirc the tube is 3/16. Thanks for watching and the comment
What kind of welder did you use on this project
Any idea what it cost to build? Steel size & thickness?
Really cool!
Thank you!!
Awesome build. Just a couple of questions for you what size rails did you use as the crossmembers and the main support beams if you don't mind me asking?
IIRC been a few years now, it was 2x3 with a 3/16ths wall
Why are the crossmembers not equally spaced? Lots of tire room and could have been 8" wider. Customer requirement no doubt.
Hello I have a question I have the same truck but it's a dually so under the flat bed there is like 2by4 I guess mayb fir the spacers really dont have a clue.....do you know why its like that is that the way its supposed to be thanks
Do you have plans for this or a material list thanks
Were your spacers the same from front to back?
Good teaching just make shure to use gloves and Safety glasses wen you're welding and grinding remember kids absorb everything.
Thanks it looks clear and clean.
Is this your truck, great vid looking forward to the next part
No this is a clients truck, mine is the red chevy featured last winter.Part 2 will be out next Tuesday
don't spos you could tell me what size square stock you were using? Thought I heard you say something about 60ft of it.
Thanks for the great video. I'll be starting my build in November
Richard Venables ii
I never thought of using a skilsaw with a metal blade, I'm assuming you can buy metal blades for it?
How does he mount it to the frame
WHAT WELDER ARE U USING AND SETTING ?
Hey man I love this build I have the same truck I’m looking into restoring it and would love to build a flatbed for it, anyway you have a material list you have from this build you wouldn’t mind sharing? Thank you
Sorry I Know longer have that at hand. Thanks for watching and commenting
Nice work. Why are you laying a bead on the open edge of the side rail at 9:28?
That was welding a cap on the end of the tube, mostly for looks.
whenever possible, seal weld, it less chance of rusting from the inside. I love this build so much, it is going on my current 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 in name only, holds my 600lb welder, gas bottles and tools...Just can pull myself to weld down hill........but GREAT Build regardless.
Planning on doing this for my truck but a bit nervous about welding around the gas tank like that.
When working on a gas fueled truck I will put a wet towel over the tank
@@WoodNMetalWorkshop Sounds like a good idea. Fuel lines too, I think.
Is that tire bald or are the treads clogged up
Maybe I missed it and if i did I apologize, but what was your method for mounting this to the frame? Did you put u-bolts around the tubing and frame? Im currently making a flatbed for my own truck and am having difficulty deciding on a solid way to mound it aside from using factory mounts. Thanks in advance.
Wow..no need to disconnect the battery terminals before wielding??
No you don't have to do that, disconnecting the battery is a old wives tale. Just think about all the paths to ground on a modern vehicle, The thought is to protect the electronics, well the battery is just one small and cheap part of that. The weld current is going to choose the path of least resistance and flow through the work lead.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
I worked at a welding shop and I watched a guy ruin all the electronics on a 2010 chevy one ton because he didn't put a surge protector on it so I wouldn't take any chances.
+Wood-N-Metal Workshop ` tell me that after it fries your computer or you drop your stinger or arc off a bearing related part in the drive train, trouble down the road !
Can be very expansive old wives tale Disconnect
Sam Ting Wong that was exactly my first thought
Turn up your heat, ice cubes are coming out of that nozzle!
Damn you move fast. Lol
I got estimates for my build and boy has prices gone up...I had estimated $600 and its $800. Mostly will be 10guage for top plate and braces and 3/16 for main rails.
I'm building one now myself... I think it'll end up around the cost you mentioned... maybe $1000 all in with lights, wiring, miscellaneous stuff. compared to off the shelf flat bed or even to a salvaged bed from local dealers, it's still a good deal.
@@KevinKimmich44024 Did you check my channel out for the skirted flat bed I built? I did several video parts but I used salvaged tool boxes, used material and new material. I think I spent about $800 in steel, $300 bed liner and bit over $150 in lights. I spent months working on it 15, 30 and 45 minute days as time permited.
@@cutweldngrind I'll check it out. Thanks. Good to get much info as possible. So far I've only made the mounts for the main rails. I just "finished" some body work on the rust bucket cab... I am happy to be working with regular square shapes and clean metal again.
What were the cut sizes for all the individual parts and how much shock would I need to order?
That's a good question 😃
It looks like a good start there. Just curious though I didn't see you pull square before you welded it solid. I guess really no need since it's not a trailer?
+Jay Bird thanks for watching and commenting. I did square it up off camera.
What coating did you use on the bed? was that an oil base paint?
The primer is from a local paint manufacture, the black used on the under side is from the same place, the top coat is Rustoleum hammered gray per the clients request.
great job can you please put up a list of material i will nedd to build a flatbed for my f350 thanks
Yeah sorry I don't have a list
What is the tube size? 3x2? Thickness?
Cut 2X2 full still with jig saw. If I would not see it would not believe it is possible.
How did you determine the proper height for the frame spacers with all the added weight?
Measured the distance from the axle to the bump stop and added a inch iirc
Why is there louvered vents in the back of the truck cab below the back window... was it to let heat flow into the back box to keep your dog warm during winter rides?
They're in all trucks to keep the windows from blowing out when you close a door. All the air has to go somewhere
Looking at building a flatbed for my 250. Do you happen to have the measurements you used? Mine is also a short bed
No sorry I don't. Thanks for watching and commenting
Cover your window, unhook your batt terminals or a surge protector.
There is no need to disconnect the battery. Think about it, on a modern vehicle there are literally hundreds of connection points. Every component talks to the computer, you have the ECU, BCM, and several other modules. Disconnecting the battery does nothing to eliminate the chance a stray current from damaging any of those systems. In fact taking the battery out of the loop may in fact increase the chance due to its ability to absorb stray current.
My advice is to keep your work lead close to the point where you are welding to give the current a shorter path.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
nice job, where are you out of? Is it necessary to run the extra set of frame rails the whole way up? seems like a lot of extra metal/ weight.
Northern MN. Since most truck frames are not straight it's much easier to run the rails. The extra steel weight is negligible. Thanks for watching and commenting
How many feet of tubing was used to make the frame
Some where around 60' IIRC, 2 base rails, 4 cross beams and 2 side rails, unfortunately the drawings were lost.
The grinder and some paint will make you the welder you ain't
Do you have a material list for this project ? I want to do the exact same thing .
No sorry I don't
What size steel did you use?
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I think I saw that flat bed on the side of the road
GO GET IT LET ME KNOW
How much space between the cab and the face of the square tubing? 👍
Whatever you are comfortable with, I have seen it as close as half an inch up to 3 or 4 inches, I usually do about an inch. Thanks for watching and commenting
I was not going to cut a hole for the fuel tank hose, I figured it would be cheaper in the long run operating the truck.
LoL thanks for watching and commenting
@@WoodNMetalWorkshop great video.....
This boy doing more grinding than welding
mario lester thats how a steel bed build goes tbh.
Down hill those vertical?
I have the exact same truck color F250 and no bed on it it runs very well would you be willing to make another bed like this for mine
Leon, send me a email woodnmetalworkshop@gmail.com
@@WoodNMetalWorkshop I loved the look what you did that is awesome looks great,,, I do not know how to email you I do not no how to create a account ether ,, I can say I do not know where or what state you are coming from ,, I live in Michigan ,, I’m sorry i do not know how to get a hold of you ,, I seen this on CZcams I loved what you did that was awesome yes it is a Diesel pick up truck the resin I took the bed off I went threw it 3 times rotted right out
No battery disconnect
No computer protection
No truck body protection from sparks
But still having a gob🙄👍
no torch or plasma?
Have both. Thanks for watching.
I noticed that while you were welding in the first clip (running actual beads) that you kept stopping mid welding and then doing a restart. Any reason for that or was it the machine
I can't answer that for you with out going back and watching the video, most likely there was a reason for it. Thanks for watching.
tack welding is what it looked like to me.
Howcome you didnt disconnect the battery? do you know something I don't?
There is no good reason to disconnect the battery, it's a old welders tail.
Yeah, plasma is the best and easy way.
I'm not trying to be smart ass.
Resist the temptation to get your face close to the weld. If you can't see the weld clearly with a straight back and arms slightly bent, get an update to your prescription. Your lungs will thank you.
Good video...but consider a dark lense when welding on camera...like a grade 3 to 5 ...
Thanks for watching and commenting.
What size tubing did you use?
Already answered, thanks for watching and commenting
Damn he gets his head awfully close to weld..like inches away
mario lester it's hard for old people to see, my dad does the same thing
fuzzy wuzzy yes it's hard for us old people to see. After staring at the weld for a couple decades you'll understand why. Diopters are harder on your eyes than getting close. They magnify the light making it worse.
At the end of the project what was the total cost? And man hours?
I don't have exact figures on time, when you are shooting video everything takes two to three times as long. Total materials was around $950 US
Awesome thank you
What size and thickness of tubing did you use there?
IIRC it was 2x3 3/16 wall That's typically my go-to
Measure threes times welded once
I like what I am seeing.The Cut-Off Saw and blade work very good. What are they? Do you have any design notes/sketches you can share?
The saw is a Jepson, here is a link to the video on it. czcams.com/video/oBySd461Bho/video.html.
I do not have anything left on the build it was a one off and my sketches and build notes were covered in burn marks from welding and grinding so went in the trash.
Para que es eso?
Are these flat bed legal to pass state inspection sticker?
We don't have inspections in MN but I build to DOT standards.
Thanks for watching and commenting
Guys what’s the best and strong 💪 for welding mig welding or tig welding 🥽 or another machine
Why a bolt on rather than welding to the frame?
hey you
Because welding to the frame means you have to cut everything off if you ever want to change anything.
The frame is tempered steel. Whether 1/2 ton or highway tractor, never weld to it. Just a good general rule of thumb
What year is the truck?
Looks like early 2000s model
hello my friend i am welding want to work with you
seems like his gut might be the path with less resistance
do you have a written parts list?
No, sorry I don't. Thanks for watching and commenting
TO NARROW. SHOULDA WENT WIDER.
What's the size of the metal tubing
IDR
how much did this cost?
Answered before but around $1200 in materials
What thickness of steel do you use?
What part?
@@WoodNMetalWorkshop guess i assumed it was all one gauge. For the part that mounts directly to the frame of t he truck and than the two rails on top.
@@Yukanag that was either 3/16" or 1/4" depending on what my supplier had in stock
Did you use 2x3 tubing? Just trying to get scale in my head. P.S. I think using stock mounting bolt locations is awesome. No frame drilling etc. just what I have been looking for.
You caught me on that one I had to go and measure a drop to make sure, luckily I had one handy. It is 2x3 with a 1/4" wall.
Thank you sir, looking good by the way.
Damn! 1/4" wall!? I used 1/8" on mine
16:25 why closing a door before welding?
There could have been a couple of reasons. It might have been windy and I didn't want the shielding gas blown away or the bright light may have been causing a reflection in my mask. Thanks for watching and commenting
Would like to purchase blueprint.
Sorry I don't have any
sleeves to prevent melanoma/cancer?
PPE is everyone's personal choice. In my case I can get a tan in a cave, the sparks don't bother me. I will put a welding jacket on for overhead. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@WoodNMetalWorkshop just wanted to point out the reckless behavior for noobs who might not know better
How much did this cost you in total?
Iirc around $1200