Ranking Isaac RUNES & SOULSTONES by FUNCTIONALITY
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
- I have 2 deadgod files I swear. My opinion is valid and based. Arguments accepted below :)
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:17 Hagalaz
1:11 Jera
2:18 Berkano
3:06 Ehwaz
4:00 Dagaz
4:35 Ansuz
5:23 Perthro
6:09 Algiz
7:17 Blank Rune
8:30 Black Rune
9:59 Dice Shard
10:40 Rune Shard
12:27 Cracked Key
13:27 Soul of Isaac
14:32 Soul of Magdalene
15:55 Soul of Cain
16:50 Soul of Judas
18:07 Soul of ???
19:28 Soul of Eve
20:16 Soul of Samson
21:21 Soul of Azazel
22:26 Soul of Lazarus
23:54 Soul of Eden
24:40 Soul of the Lost
25:50 Soul of Lilith
26:20 Soul of the Keeper
27:20 Soul of Apollyon
28:28 Soul of the Forgotten
29:30 Soul of Bethany
30:30 Soul of Jacob and Esau
31:35 FINAL LIST
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My lore for Rune Shard existing is that some players only unlocked the good runes like Jera and Pethro so that this play is no longer viable.
i'm pretty sure thats exactly what it was lmao (i was part of the problem)
The best part of black rune is that you can still get stats from voiding actives
so very tru .. unless its shot speed >:(
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaacwhich it always is
me with 5.4 shot speed and 18 luck playing apolyon (i have 4.5 damage)
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaacme when shot speed when I'm desperate for dmg/tears:
FUUUUUUU-
@@Yayo30007 truly the best time to be alive
i loved it when matt said its ranking c̶a̶r̶d̶s runes time and ranked them all over the place
I loved that part too ngl
I love it when commenters repeat the same meme from 3 years ago in every video ever made! It’s so funny!!!!
@@EvolvedDinosaur👍
@@EvolvedDinosaur that's my favorite part
One thing that I like about cracked key and soul of Cain is that carrying them is basically blue map in a card form because you now know exactly where the secret rooms are due to the walls not giving the viable red room outline
honorable mention to the one thing soul of laz can do, it helps with tainted lost since its basically an extra life which is a godsend for T. Lost
soul of laz+plan c=how to oneshot delirium
For soul of Samson you put it at 0 for non enemy rooms but I've used the rune specifically for the bone swing on pickups a ton.
technically… you can open secret rooms and break tinted rocks with soul of blue baby so it shouldn’t be a 0 for non-combat
heck you're right i forgor
pretty much exclusively what i use it for, its basically a delayed explosive diarrhea pill, great when you dont have bombs
Soul pf Laz is basically a Damocles failsafe if you don't have any other revive items. Also it actually allows suicide king to be useful, if you have polydactyl or smth
Tiny benefit of rune shard is it does something basically nothing else in the game does - it can reveal the Ultra Secret room if it's within the radius
But that's very rarely useful
Soul of Lilith is always such a cool sight when I find it in runs... and nearly every single time it has disappointed me, Bumbo, Forever Alone, BBF... freakin BOB'S BRAIN AS TAINTED LOST.
I have yet to receive a Q4 from that Soul, yet I keep using it.
Forever alone is a good familiar?
@@ladygeneveve3805 Since wheeen?
How they could buff some of the runes:
Hagalaz - Open secret and super secret rooms in the same room.
Berkano - Permacharms some enemies in the room, like the enemies from PokeGo (Tarot cloth allows all enemies to be affected)
Dagaz - Doubles soul heart gain if it does clear a curse. Also disables Cursed eye teleports for the floor.
Rune Shard - Show what the shard is going to do. It could be replaced with shard versions of each rune instead of just a generic shard. Tarot card allows the normal rune effect to happen.
Soul of Maggy - Also has Hypercoagulation effect for its duration.
Soul of Judas - Damage bonus lasts for the floor.
Soul of Lazarus - When reviving from this rune, gain red creep for the floor. While holding this rune, items that grant more pickup slots become more common in shops and treasure rooms (unless you have one already).
Soul of Eden - Add the D12 effect to be funny.
Soul of the Keeper - Increase the minimum to 3 pennies (unless you're the keepers, in which case the minimum is still 1)
Soul of Bethany - Create 3 wisps on each wisp ring. The random properties each wisp is limited to the kind of wisps that spawn in that ring only.
the reason i always hesitated using soul of J&E is because 60% of the time it out right crashed the game
still to this day have the fear it will crash me but always use it as Esau very VERY often drops consumables
Rune shard can spawn crawlspace trapdoors, you just gotta stand on a floor decoration like ethwaz or we need to go deeper
Soul of Isaac isn't necessarily better than Perthro or Dice Shard in exactly 2 use cases:
As Tainted Isaac or with Glitched Crown/Isaac's birthright, using a standard reroll will reroll all options (so with Tainted Isaac/Isaac's birthright, you get 2 new options, with Glitched Crown, you get 5.) However, with Soul of Isaac, you only get 1 additional item.
Personally, I’d weigh combat categories lower then usefulness in non-combat scenarios.
Most combats are just temporary buffs, but getting something from a non-combat resource usually stays with you.
For example, the sacrifice room from soul of the forgotten might spawn items. Those items will be there for the rest of the runs.
The stats from black rune will stay with you forever. The pickups that you got from jera will stay with you until you spend them for something else.
However, if you use smth like soul of Azazel or soul of Eve for combat for a fight, they’ll expire. You just got temporary help instead of permanent help
I cant explain how annoyed i am that both soul of the forgotten and soul of jacob and esau are so simular like for jacob and esau makes sence but for the forgotten? Like they could have made it you get the bone club for 7.5 sec or you can leave your body like he does with the soul with ctrl or give him the t forgotten body to throw one time or for one room like its boring that its a copy paste from jacob and esau and on that topic that soul is also kinda boring bc there is an item for that straw man, soul of jacob and esau could be like a one dash of dark esau from your poaition to the furthest part of the room and he cant damage you but does the damage to the enemies
I swore the rune shard got me a crawl space a few times on my 2nd dead god file (I only found out about the existence of them on that file cause it's newer, and I ended up using rune shards a lot because I'm holding off on unlocking the mid runes). I have awful memory so maybe I'm mistaking it for a blank rune I used in the past, but I swore I've used a rune shard on an irregular space (normal methods to find crawl space) and it worked. I'll have to retest it
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On another note, I think putting soul of ??? as a 0 in non combat isn't quite true, because having access to bombs is useful in general I think, def agree it's underrated for sure
Probably a useful note of soul of J+E; if he rolls into any items that drop stuff on getting them (eg squeezy) he'll instantly drop those pickups. Popping the soul when youve got a lot of items usually results in a ton of free pickups; mainly hearts and trinkets. So even if you dont wanna use it for bosses to avoid getting screwed by him getting dr fetus or something, its pretty damn good for that.
Ranking enemies could be a cool idea. Ive Been thinking that since it showed up in the poll.
i agree! That would be very cool! There are a looooot of enemies but i like a challenge :)
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaacyou could split it into a part series, maybe by floor perhaps.
Funny suggestion I have but honestly might be useful for newer players would be an active item tier list for the Greed modes, or honestly Greed mode specific tier lists in general, it’s something most Isaac players don’t like playing but it’s very necessary for crucial unlocks like Holy Mantle or some of the reverse tarot cards!
Mmm sprinkler
amazing video, but also why is berkano so out of place?
My bad I put it way too low, it's top 3 at least tbh
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaacno like berkano’s placement in the video jumps ahead past most of the runes and then goes back 😂
Something that Ansuz does that the world and sun dont do is reveal the super secret room.
And ultra secret!!
I'm sorry, but is that fucking Kirby's Epic Yarn music at 17:02????? I was just enjoying the video and then I got hit with raw fucking fire, thank you for this.
Black Rune can definitely trigger from Blank Rune. At least through using Clear Rune. Because I had a run with 4 items in the secret room, and I was using Clear Rune over and over with Habit, and then all the items got deleted and I got stats and flies :/
yeaaa i think my source of info may be incorrect on that lol
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaac It looks like that's the text from the fandom wiki, but without the icons. There's a "not in Repentance" icon in the middle of that sentence on the fandom wiki itself, although since it's an icon it doesn't appear to have transferred over.
Blank Rune USED TO not have Black Rune, but this was changed in Repentance.
@@misirtere9836 yeah, and that's important lol
I think Soul of ??? Should get a point for non-combat. The bombs can be useful, sort of like a The Tower card you have more control over. That's usually what I use it for. Get a tinted rock or a secret room and save myself a bomb
What character rune you unlock first? Mine was soul of Apollyon, also the Apollyons are the my first and second all marks.
How’d you know this is exactly what I wanted to watch at this very moment which is an hour after upload
What do you mean it excludes black rune? when i use blank rune it sometimes procs black rune too.
the wiki do be saying the wildest things sometimes
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaacu actually misread the wiki it used to not use black rune but in repentance they made it so it can which makes it risky to try to use it as perthro
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaac the wiki does specify that's not a thing in repentance :)
23:50 ever heard of Tainted Lost?
I feel like some runes need a note about how good it is as one specific character, if it's significantly better. Cracked Key and Soul of Laz are two items that are so good on (T.) Lost. Cracked Key for getting Inner Child as an Extra Life, and Soul of Laz for more of the same.
Rune shard CAN actually spawn crawspaces, its why i actually use it
Soul of Magdalene is great for Tainted Bethany, since it means more stored charges for items.
Also, Soul of Lazarus can be used with Plan C to kill Delirium. Suicide King can also be used with it if you have polydactyly
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Soul of laz can be used for damocles or devil deals i think it should be at 4th tier
mostly good but I believe most of the normal room clear soul stones must be dropped a tier (forgotten apollyon samson especially)
yeaaa you're probably not wrong lul
I'd say soul of ??? would be at least a 1 in non combat because you could use it destroy rocks, pots, open secret rooms, destroy dono, etc
Love to see Soul of Lazarus when you have Damocles
You probably were already told this but blank rune definitely uses black rune. I was going for an R key two items in a super secret room use blank rune uses black rune I'll never forget that.
you can get crawl spaces with ruin shard
Love the intro and the *rune* replacements
The soul of Lazarus placement is actually crazy.
Getting Ehwaz on the rune shard can still make a crawlspace when you're above a floor decoration.
Soul of laz is great for the losts, especially tainted lost, because he pretty much can't have more lives
Blank rune CAN do black rune and rune shard CAN creat crawlspaces
one step closer to the item ranking. Surely thats gonna come right ?
eventually i promise :)
yo whats the music in the background i like it
The fact that you put the soul of lillith above soul of isaac eden and dice shard is criminal
Oh yea i love getting abel and ??? Only friend or the goddam useless angry fly
are you forgetting about getting incubus, twisted pair, psy fly too?? im a gamba addict its s+++ tier
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaac yeah but i always get bob's brain.
berkano s tier?!?!?
S+ tier actually
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaac me upon witnessing my 3 flies and 3 spiders fly directly into the invincible half of Mask of Infamy (it was totally worth playing that awful challenge)
Soul of ??? technically has use outside combat because you can use it to open secret rooms
Rune shard can spawn crawl spaces, done it for me many timw
blank rune can become black rune, learned this the hard way when i balled too hard and turned my 4 perthros and 2 soul of isaacs into flies
That soul heart from dagaz is worth a lot more in repentance. Plus dont get hit.
rune shard is for if you have less than like 3 runes unlocked
For the soul of Lazarus it completely negates Damocles downside
Lovin the Kirby's Epic Yarn music :)
these ranking videos are so good
I feel like the only real play with Soul of Lazarus is if you have Damocles
You sure rune shard can't spawn a crawlspace? I remember spawning crawlspaces with rune shards
Birthright Rankin next????
rune shard can make crawlspaces actually
I got PSYFLY from a soul of lillith yesterday. Best soul rune ever
Good ranking, now how would you rank soul stones based off taste?
Souls of Isaac and Eden look like they'd be the best
@thinkublu I want to try Soul of Bethany, looks like a gummy with liquid candy in it
can you do a music tierlist
You should rank the characters
classic matt video where matt matts mattingly
Okay, hear me out, hagalaz rune is amazing if you can obtain a cards against humanity card
they gotta make Hagalaz destroy them stone enemies
Blank rune does copy black rune effect
but soul of laz + tlost or lost even
no webcam Matt? :sadplum:
Not even MENTIONING the freakin’ LOST, and especially T.LOST, when talking about Soul of Laz??? Wut????
I think Berkano was somehow placed early in the vid, but otherwise nice vid
oh shit idk what i did lmao oops
tbh I think ranking soul of lilith over the reroll runes is wrong. I agree it belongs in the top tier but I think getting a reroll is on average better than getting a random familiar. There are just too many familiars like Brother Bobby that are just "meh" for me to rank soul of lilith that Highly. Still, the floor on both types of runes are so high I understand the argument for it being the best rune.
Can u rank tha flin stones
soul of laz in bottom tier is blasphemy my brother
That's not how you use those tier colors.
Soul of ??? Should have one non combat usefulness, it spawns bombs dawg
I swear blank rune includes black rune
Soul of samson max 3/5 the mele atack its just bad xp never used it cuz its not worthed
I like soul of blue baby
Me when I be Clearning a room
me when you're clearing a room
You put Soul of Apollyon at a 0 for non combat scenarios, but I gotta disagree.
There is a mod that makes the announcer say "Soullyon of Apollyon" upon using it, which makes me giggle every time, so that's at least a 4/5 in a non combat situation.
Me waiting for him to rank every item in the game
it'll haaaaaappen .. you just gotta sub to know when
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WHAT. BLANK RUNE NEVER CAN BE BLACK RUNE?!?!
there have been like 10 instances in my life where I could have used it and gotten some crazy random item like a sacred heart. Gg edmund
Blank rune can become a black rune in repentance, Matt misread wiki little bit.
@@avezebra7022 oh lol ok ok
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Cool video, jera is a 5 though.
you put the best rune in the game - algiz in 4???
ye :) im controversial like that
Black rune is hella mid
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jera not 5? take your meds
i'm sticking by this take - its not a 5
How in the hell is ehwaz better than jera
crawlspaces are free items (most of the time) and jera is only really super pog when taken to the chest or dark room
Free crawspace
Why not use jera on ehwaz so you can spawn 2 crawlspaces?@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaac
These are some pretty stinky takes ngl, the placements for soul of Lazarus and soul of blue baby are WACK. A free revive on any character? INCLUDING THE TAINTED LOST? And boy howdy, soul of blue baby has been the cause of my demise one too many times for me to consider it a good rune, CERTAINLY not S. This is kind of weird considering that I’ve agreed nearly wholeheartedly with your past lists :/
I am first like
You put Soul of Apollyon at a 0 for non combat scenarios, but I gotta disagree.
There is a mod that makes the announcer say "Soullyon of Apollyon" upon using it, which makes me giggle every time, so that's at least a 4/5 in a non combat situation.