I was born in 2000s and I'm shocked to core after finding this debate, I just can't believe debates like this were happening on Big T.V channels in Pakistan in urdu. We really are in the darkest age of the country now, religious tolerance is so low that people are getting killed just because they don't agree with the popular opinion, I hope things get better
غامدی صاحب نے کیا کمال انداز اپنایا کہ یہ اندازہ لگایا جا سکے کہ کون کون اپنے نظریات میں الحاد چھپائے بیٹھا ہے۔ مجھے کچھ لوگ یہاں غامدی صاحب سے خوفزدہ نظر آئے۔ واللہ ۔۔۔ اللہ سب سے بڑا ہے اور سائینس اس سے زیادہ کچھ نہیں کہ وہ اللہ کی تخلیقات پر تحقیقات کرے
Because these debates result in the viewer deciding for their own what makes sense and don't, so it's a possibility that some people can reach to the conclusion that religion might not be correct So mullahs are afraid of it and only want people to hear their point of views and any different question is considered blasphemy for them and they stopped these kind of debates. But it's not a problem because it is the age of information now and no one watch these media channels now and only the internet is the main source of information
I'm convinced now that Ghamdi's ability to argue and sticking to argument is amazing. Hood bhai after so many years,still has to learn how to argue n about philosophy. I feel Ghandi has goven Hood bhai some good blows to which Hood bhai had no solid reply.
Hoodbhoy is a scientist, not a philosopher. Science follows only evidence, and hence you have vaccines, medicine and the thing that you're viewing youtube on
@@umayr2935 i agree that science serves humanity. Please try to understand that I'm talking about premise of argument. Scientists are good at logical thinking and how to argue. It's my personal opinion and you have all the freedom to disagree; I say that during this debate Ghamdi showed better argumentative skills. Hoodbhai gets a bit aggressive and deviates from the argument. Rest assured, i respect and agree with your opinion.
@@TheSarban77 yes, that is expected, because we in living the realm of matter, which concerns with science, spirituality concerns with outside the universe, therefore if anyone explains this universe using something other than what is scientific evidence, then obviously the people who do science will get bothered. Its natural.
Yeah exactly... when Ghamidi sb said the universe is serving the mankind... he doesn't mean k iniverse humai bread or naashtay mai chy bna k bister per la ker day ge... bjt mujay laha k Hoodbhoy has understand the point is same way k universe tea serve ker rahi ha... i am shocked if he didn't get Ghamidi sb,s point of human cteation ... being the result of explosions of stars... the material on us is from the stars and this universe... and really the Philosophical arguements he was supposed to do ... he is very poor in... sorry... and the other guy is stupid as much as more i think of his argues or he is extremely narrow minded... 4th person k mtaaliq mai kuch keh nhi skta... but 3 k mtaaliq yaihi ha
Evolution is not only in Biology, it exists in socities as well. Evolution can be both progressive and regressive a fact well known in advanced socities.
Evidence of theory of evolution: Fossil Record: The fossil record provides a chronological record of past life forms, showing a pattern of gradual change over time. Fossils of simpler organisms are found in deeper rock layers, while more complex organisms appear in more recent layers. Transitional fossils, such as Archaeopteryx (a bird-like dinosaur) and Tiktaalik (a fish-like amphibian), exhibit characteristics of both ancestral and descendant species, supporting the idea of common ancestry. Homologous Structures: Similarities in anatomical structures among different species indicate common ancestry. For example, the pentadactyl limb structure (having five digits) is found in various vertebrates, including humans, cats, bats, and whales, suggesting a common ancestor with this trait. Vestigial Organs: Vestigial organs are structures that have lost most or all of their original function through evolution. Examples include the appendix in humans, the pelvis in whales, and the wings of flightless birds. These vestigial organs make sense in the context of evolutionary history, as they were likely functional in ancestral species. Genetic Evidence: DNA sequencing has provided compelling evidence for evolution. Comparative analysis of DNA and protein sequences across different species reveals similarities and patterns of relatedness. The degree of similarity in DNA sequences between species corresponds to their evolutionary relationship, with more closely related species having more similar DNA. Biogeography: The distribution of species across different geographical regions can be explained by evolution. Similar environments tend to have similar species, even in geographically separated areas. This can be seen in the distribution of marsupials, which are found predominantly in Australia and nearby regions. Observational Evidence: Direct observations of natural selection and speciation have been documented. Examples include the evolution of antibiotic resistance in bacteria and the adaptive changes observed in Galapagos finches studied by Charles Darwin. Comparative Embryology: Embryological development provides evidence for common ancestry. The early stages of development in different organisms often show striking similarities, indicating shared ancestry. For instance, the embryos of humans, fish, and birds exhibit gill-like structures early on, reflecting their evolutionary history.
Scientists presented a very limited perspective and were not able to fully perceive the ideas presented from the other side, while religious scholars not only understood the scientist's perspectives but also extended the ideas and presented critical arguments.
In the first part of the program Hoodboy is speaking about the Millers theory, experiment of 1953 itself which tries to explain the probability of an amino acid coming into random existence by chance. It is mathematically impossible due to the specificity. "For instance, an average-sized protein molecule composed of 288 amino acids, and contains twelve different types of amino acids can be arranged in 10300 different ways. (This is an astronomically huge number, consisting of 1 followed by 300 zeros."
Why is it impossible? There are 20 known common amino acids and 2 rare amino acids; if you want to make a protein 100 amino acids long, there are 100^22 combinations - quite a large number. It is quite possible that RNA is a precursor of life (4 bases), not protein. That means to make, for example 100 nucleotide long functional RNA, it would take 100^4 combinations, which is not an astronomically large number. It is not impossible to think life could be an outcome of combinatorial chemistry happened over a span of billion years.
@@ala7515atheists are useless creatures because one who didn't recognize his creator is in seriously trouble because after death there is day of judgement which is hard for unbelievers and easy for who spend life in Way of Allah Almighty
You can disagree on certain aspects with Ghamdi Sahab but when it comes to debate and understanding the question and process the facts and then explain those facts and figures No one can come close to him he is matchless
"Why Cannot DNA Come into Being by Chance? At this point, there is an important detail that deserves attention. An error in the sequence of the nucleotides making up a gene would render that gene completely useless. When it is considered that there are 30,000 genes in the human body, it becomes clearer how impossible it is for the millions of nucleotides making up these genes to have been formed, in the right sequence, by chance".
I don't think there is a conclusion that modern humans with ~30,000 odd genes came into existence out from nothing. Simple life forms with a fewer than n genes could have been a precursor to a complex life forms. I think you're building conclusions without giving any deep thought.
I am French, but of Pakistani origin, so I can understand Urdu (not everything, but most of it at least). I must say that Mr. Hoodbhoy, despite being a nuclear physicist and certainly of great intellect, was decimated by Mr. Ghamidi here. In the end, he simply repeated the same mistake that Mr. Ghamidi had already responded to. The universe can, of course, serve many other causes, other nations, other races, but we see that it has, AMONG OTHERS, served humans! His latest statement therefore in no way calls into question that of Mr. Ghamidi.
@@AliRaza-hd5jkhood boy ko Allah hidayat dy aur hamain bhe kyn k yeah Banda itna scientific knowledge hony k bawajood bhe is ka eman shake ma hai k esy logo ki misal Allah ny pehly he Qur'an ma dy di hai k agr Kisi ko mout k bhad Zindagi ka yaqeen na ho aur uska eman Jo usy gift ka Allah ny by birth dia thaa woh shak kry aur woh ghussa ma ho tu phr usy chahaiy k aik rassi ly aur roof sy bandh kr Khud ko khtm krny ki khohish kry aur agr yeah mar jy tu phr isy Haq ul yaqeen ho jy ga jb yeah is duniya sy barzak ma jy ga phr is ko pachtawa hoga lekin us waqt kue faida nae hoga sirf pachtawa k
First I wd like to Congratulate to the organizers to conduct such a dailogues, its a healthy way to discuss issues on a platform. Mr Ghamadi is master of language , he is an excellent orator so he was using ths tools to keep hs views .... He ignored the logic , facts nd harsh reality of the society his entire arguments was based on hypothesis Mr Abbasi nd Hoodhbhoy very nicely explained tht how science is based on observation nd facts.
گفتگو کا موضوع کچھ بھی ہو ، کسی کے نظریات کچھ بھی ہوں لیکن یقین جانیے مجھے ان پانچ لوگوں کو پڑھا لکھا اور مہذب کہنے میں کوئی عار نہیں ۔ ان کے برعکس جب ہمارے علماء دین کسی ٹی وی چینل پر آپس میں بیٹھتے ہیں تو پھر جو باہمی دھما چوکڑی مچتی ہے وہ مجھے یہاں نظر نہیں آ رہی ۔ میرے خیال میں گفتگو کا جو اسلوب یہاں اپنایا گیا ہے اس میں ہمارے آج کے مہمان گرامی اور اینکرز کے لیے بہت بڑا سبق ہے کہ گفتگو کرنے اور برداشت کرنے کے اطوار کیا ہوتے ہیں۔
Robert Shapiro, a professor of chemistry at New York University and a DNA expert, calculated the probability of the coincidental formation of the 2000 types of proteins found in a single bacterium (There are 200,000 different types of proteins in a human cell). The number that was found was 1 over 10 40000.112
Quraan paak irtaka ko byan nhi krta micro evolution to thek he magr major evolution thk nhi Quran Paak is from ALLAH ALMIGHTY and Quran is he true but science always changes its theories
Both do not stand on solid ground. One is man of physical science and Ghamedi was once a follower of Maudidi sahab with whom he distanced himself and turned into rejecting some of ahadeeth but very good and articulate
اگر یہ کائنات مخلوق نہیں ہے اور یہ بات کچھ سالوں بعد اکثریت کی سوچ بن جاتی ہے تو پھر اس کائنات کا نظام درہم برہم ہوجائیگا، زمیں پہ جنگل والی زندگی کا بسیرا ہوجائیگا، بڑا جب یہ محسوس کرے گا کہ میں اپنےاعمال کا جواب دہ نہیں ہوں تو پھر وہ جنگلی شیر کیطرح جب چاہیے چھوٹےکو چھیر پھاڑ کر ختم کردے۔ اس طرح کی صورتحال میں یہ نظام کیسےچلےگا
If evolution according to professor is so true then why didn't we find many transitional hybrid species? I don't think the professor read the chapter no 6 of On the origin of species by Darwin.
Yup are right we don't found intermediate fossil lol Many biologist argues about this stuff If there are intermediate links why even they are found they are to rare .
Every theory has some rise and falls sometimes it rises up because it gives more positive results sometimes it lows down because results are coming against it. Scientists believe that if theory is giving some positive results then it is true. Even the theory itself is not proved yet. They believe in the evolution of the Corona virus and many other rapid evolutions. But the evolution time from one species to another takes a lot of time which is not measurable by now
U need to watch again ur hood sahib just chang the question in end Bhaagnay ka raasta unhain yehi mila k hazaron stars hum dykhain gay aysa hoga waysa hoga. Kiun k unhain bhi pta hy k gamdi sb theek keh rahay thay😊😁
I'm a 100% sure that Pervez Hoodbhoy is a low key atheist. Anyone who has even a little bit of common sense, will be able to conclude that there's little or no evidence to suggest that humanity was born with a purpose, or that there's a creator. If there's a creator, then the next problem is, who created him?
This is the problem. If you keep asking questions, then there is none to it. There has to be a finish line. I believe that we can find a common ground between relgion and science. Accepting religion and rejecting science v accepting science and rejecting religion is both wrong.
Believing that pure chance can produce perfect designs goes well be- yond the bounds of reason. Yet, every "explanation put forward by the the- ory of evolution regarding the origin of life is like that. One outspoken authority on this issue is the famous French zoologist Pierre-Paul Grassé, the former president of the French Academy of Sciences. Grassé is a mate- rialist, yet he acknowledges that Darwinist theory is unable to explain life and makes a point about the logic of "coincidence", which is the backbone of Darwinism: The opportune appearance of mutations permitting animals and plants to meet their needs seems hard to believe. Yet the Darwinian theory is even more demanding: A single plant, a single animal would require thousands and thousands of lucky, appropriate events. Thus, miracles would become the rule: events with an infinitesimal probability could not fail to occur... There is no law against daydreaming, but science must not indulge in it.1
mera dost, ap bhi to shyd isi nazariye k teht apni rai yahan de rahay hain (or ye bi mumkin hy ki haqeeqat may ye ap k mutaiya ka topic ho)...koi ap k mutaliq bhi yehi rai qaim kr sakta hy. is comment k bajaye is behs ka wo nuqta bayan krtay jis se aap ko ikhtilaf hy, to ziyada mufeed hota.
38:40 abhi pata nahi chala aur chaley ga bhi nahi. To jub tuk pata nahi ke aur kahan bashaoor makhlooq hai us waqt tak to mana jae ke kainat insan ke liye hai na key insan kainat ka hisa hai.
Allah ke aur planets pr bhot si aur bhe maklooqat Hain jis ka hamain ilm nae dia gya Quran ka muqadma yeah hai k mrny k bhad hisab kitab jannat jahanum isliay Quran my Allah hamain is ka ilm dia hai baqi knowledge hamari dimension aur maqsad ka nae hai isliay nae btaya gya Allah k ilm ki kue limit nae hai Subhan Allah
27:40 sience ka taaluq maadi dunya se hai iradoon se nahi. Shayad is kainat ka khaliq ho. Hoodbhoy typical atheistic ya agnostic argument de rahe hai. Ap ka eman khaliq per hai ap eman wale werna. Aur quran khaliq ki pehchan ke liye sub se barri daleel kainat ke mazahirat ki deta hai. Yehi test hai.
Science human knowledge hai aur jis ny human bnaya hai us ki kia Shan hai Allah o Akbar❤❤❤ in atheisteism ka jawab dia hai Allah ny Quran ma k Kia inhon ny khud bna lia hai apny AP ko jesy k atheists bongiyian Marty hain tu Mera eman Quran pr eman aur increase Hota hai
Rejection of Darwin (the whole basis o modern biology) is similar to the Fundamentalist. christian's position ie Creationist theory. This is as absurd as you can get.
@@kumarvikash6122 hahaha kya joke maara hai jab koi logical baat nhi hai toh aisi bongiyan Marty ho...har 3,4 din baad Islam ke khilaaf aakar bolta hai tab toh isko Kisi ne nhi maara lekin jab ek aalim ke samne Beth Raha hai toh mar jayga haha lol kya baat hai
Hoodbhoy nuclear physics ka hai ek mechanical engineering k hvac field ka ho to usse production ka sawal puch lo wo bata nahi payega . Ye jahil hoodbhoy shia khatmal ismaili hai islam ka dushman aise hi hai
32:40 javed sahab ka argument ke kainat hamari khidmat me lagi hai ka maqsad hargiz ye nahi ke har cheez kainat me hamare khidmat ke liye hai. Agar pani aur hawa hamari khidmat ke liye hain to selab aur tuofan is ki is khidmat ko rok nahi dete.
Javed Ahmed ghamdi ki ya baat ka universe Mari khidmat ma lagi hoi ha ko galat tariqa sa bataya ja raha ha unho na kaha ka agar ma siraf apni zaat ka mutabaqa dakho to asa mahsoos hota ha
Bhai agr nature khud choose krti h or us me automation hy toh wo automation ksi na ksi ne toh bnai hogi na 😂😂 clash un cheezo ka kr k decision ly rhy ho jisy ap smjh hi ni sky.. science agr Quran k knowledge ko pura smjh ni ski.. insan ka knowledge agr us level pe phnch ni ska.. toh iska mtlb ye toh hy k dono knowledges ka comparison kia jaye ga or phr insan insan ki baat theek keh k Khaliq ki baat ko ghlt krdy ga? 😂 Agr 2 litter ki bottle me pury samandar jitna pani ni aa skta toh iska mtlb ye k jitna pani us bottle me aya h exist hi wahi krta h? Kyu k hmara knowledge bottle ki quantity tk mehdood h
Nabi As ny Jin ka knowledge tamam baqi insan aur maklooqat sy ziyada hai unhon ny apny ilm ka Allah k ilm Sy comparison krty hoey kia khobsurat Hadees irsad farmayi k Mera aur Allah k knowledge ki misal esy hai k is duniya k sary samundar k Pani sy aik qatra ungli py lgaya tu AP ka ilm aur baqi samundar Allah ka ilm sirf hm eman walo ko samjhany kaliay wrna samundar bhe kia cheez hai Allah ka ilm lamadood hai unlimited hamary dimag phat jaein . Yeah hood boy Islam logo k Halat daik kr aur Muslims k Halat daik kr jahil insan Maaz Allah Islam py question kr rha hai jb k yahan hamary log ilm sy bhot door hain. Yeah hood boy samjhta hai k western technology duniya ma ghalib hai isliay woh theik hain jb k isko nae pta k duniya ki Life aik insan kaliay temporary hai chahaiy jitni development kr ly aur phr western isko support krty hain youth ko Islam sy door krny kaliay aur isko baithy baithy paisa bna rha hai isko LG pta jy ga jb yeah mry ga Allah is ko hidayat dy aur hamain bhe
Part 2
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I was born in 2000s and I'm shocked to core after finding this debate, I just can't believe debates like this were happening on Big T.V channels in Pakistan in urdu. We really are in the darkest age of the country now, religious tolerance is so low that people are getting killed just because they don't agree with the popular opinion, I hope things get better
Bahi you will be shocked to see the kind of topics were discussed and how free media was in 2000s. This truly is the worst era of Pakistan
agreed. Religious arrogance is at peak in Pakistan! Islam is holding back Pakistan.
@@strangerthenyouthink9311not islam. ignorant people
@@strangerthenyouthink9311not Islam but school of thought prevailed here
There was no TLP back than 😅
Jahan pey Question krnay walay ka IQ aur logic htm hota hai, wahan sey Javed Ahmad Ghamidi Sahb start letay han...pure & brilliant command on knowledge !
Average
@@ubaidhassan2677need to spend time understanding it
@@ubaidhassan2677hater 🗣️
دلائل کی دنیا کا استاد، محترم جوید احمد غامدی صاحب۔
غامدی صاحب نے کیا کمال انداز اپنایا کہ یہ اندازہ لگایا جا سکے کہ کون کون اپنے نظریات میں الحاد چھپائے بیٹھا ہے۔ مجھے کچھ لوگ یہاں غامدی صاحب سے خوفزدہ نظر آئے۔ واللہ ۔۔۔ اللہ سب سے بڑا ہے اور سائینس اس سے زیادہ کچھ نہیں کہ وہ اللہ کی تخلیقات پر تحقیقات کرے
Nice🎉
Kash agr ye debate aj bhi hotay
Why are such programs not being broadcast nowadays....?
Because of crazy molvi's who dont want others to think different.
Because these debates result in the viewer deciding for their own what makes sense and don't, so it's a possibility that some people can reach to the conclusion that religion might not be correct
So mullahs are afraid of it and only want people to hear their point of views and any different question is considered blasphemy for them and they stopped these kind of debates.
But it's not a problem because it is the age of information now and no one watch these media channels now and only the internet is the main source of information
@@MustafaAli-lb8dqwatch Hamza tzrosis Vs Lawrence Krause
Hamza tzrosis Vs hood boy
Hood boy cried when debate with Hamza tzrosis
زبردست
اے کاش جیو پر اس طرح کے پروگرام مزید بھی ہوتے
I'm convinced now that Ghamdi's ability to argue and sticking to argument is amazing. Hood bhai after so many years,still has to learn how to argue n about philosophy. I feel Ghandi has goven Hood bhai some good blows to which Hood bhai had no solid reply.
Literry nothing was a “good blow”. Seems like the other side seemed serious knowledge. I’m curious how you got that idea, mind explaining?
Hoodbhoy is a scientist, not a philosopher. Science follows only evidence, and hence you have vaccines, medicine and the thing that you're viewing youtube on
@@umayr2935 i agree that science serves humanity. Please try to understand that I'm talking about premise of argument. Scientists are good at logical thinking and how to argue. It's my personal opinion and you have all the freedom to disagree; I say that during this debate Ghamdi showed better argumentative skills. Hoodbhai gets a bit aggressive and deviates from the argument.
Rest assured, i respect and agree with your opinion.
@@TheSarban77 yes, that is expected, because we in living the realm of matter, which concerns with science, spirituality concerns with outside the universe, therefore if anyone explains this universe using something other than what is scientific evidence, then obviously the people who do science will get bothered. Its natural.
Yeah exactly... when Ghamidi sb said the universe is serving the mankind... he doesn't mean k iniverse humai bread or naashtay mai chy bna k bister per la ker day ge... bjt mujay laha k Hoodbhoy has understand the point is same way k universe tea serve ker rahi ha... i am shocked if he didn't get Ghamidi sb,s point of human cteation ... being the result of explosions of stars... the material on us is from the stars and this universe... and really the Philosophical arguements he was supposed to do ... he is very poor in... sorry... and the other guy is stupid as much as more i think of his argues or he is extremely narrow minded... 4th person k mtaaliq mai kuch keh nhi skta... but 3 k mtaaliq yaihi ha
Evolution is not only in Biology, it exists in socities as well. Evolution can be both progressive and regressive a fact well known in advanced socities.
Unparallel...Ustad Ghamdi.
Ghamidi shb boht zaburdust
Evidence of theory of evolution:
Fossil Record: The fossil record provides a chronological record of past life forms, showing a pattern of gradual change over time. Fossils of simpler organisms are found in deeper rock layers, while more complex organisms appear in more recent layers. Transitional fossils, such as Archaeopteryx (a bird-like dinosaur) and Tiktaalik (a fish-like amphibian), exhibit characteristics of both ancestral and descendant species, supporting the idea of common ancestry.
Homologous Structures: Similarities in anatomical structures among different species indicate common ancestry. For example, the pentadactyl limb structure (having five digits) is found in various vertebrates, including humans, cats, bats, and whales, suggesting a common ancestor with this trait.
Vestigial Organs: Vestigial organs are structures that have lost most or all of their original function through evolution. Examples include the appendix in humans, the pelvis in whales, and the wings of flightless birds. These vestigial organs make sense in the context of evolutionary history, as they were likely functional in ancestral species.
Genetic Evidence: DNA sequencing has provided compelling evidence for evolution. Comparative analysis of DNA and protein sequences across different species reveals similarities and patterns of relatedness. The degree of similarity in DNA sequences between species corresponds to their evolutionary relationship, with more closely related species having more similar DNA.
Biogeography: The distribution of species across different geographical regions can be explained by evolution. Similar environments tend to have similar species, even in geographically separated areas. This can be seen in the distribution of marsupials, which are found predominantly in Australia and nearby regions.
Observational Evidence: Direct observations of natural selection and speciation have been documented. Examples include the evolution of antibiotic resistance in bacteria and the adaptive changes observed in Galapagos finches studied by Charles Darwin.
Comparative Embryology: Embryological development provides evidence for common ancestry. The early stages of development in different organisms often show striking similarities, indicating shared ancestry. For instance, the embryos of humans, fish, and birds exhibit gill-like structures early on, reflecting their evolutionary history.
Islam is true religion of ALLAH ALMIGHTY
Who's watching this for Ahmed Javed🕊
Legend
Scientists presented a very limited perspective and were not able to fully perceive the ideas presented from the other side, while religious scholars not only understood the scientist's perspectives but also extended the ideas and presented critical arguments.
Ghamidi Sahab ..A masterpiece ❤
beshak
In the first part of the program Hoodboy is speaking about the Millers theory, experiment of 1953 itself which tries to explain the probability of an amino acid coming into random existence by chance. It is mathematically impossible due to the specificity. "For instance, an average-sized protein molecule composed of 288
amino acids, and contains twelve different types of amino acids can be
arranged in 10300 different ways. (This is an astronomically huge number,
consisting of 1 followed by 300 zeros."
Why is it impossible? There are 20 known common amino acids and 2 rare amino acids; if you want to make a protein 100 amino acids long, there are 100^22 combinations - quite a large number. It is quite possible that RNA is a precursor of life (4 bases), not protein. That means to make, for example 100 nucleotide long functional RNA, it would take 100^4 combinations, which is not an astronomically large number. It is not impossible to think life could be an outcome of combinatorial chemistry happened over a span of billion years.
Yet an invisible guy living all around us prepared to throw us in hell if we touch are own body is highly possible “mathematically”
@@whabshah657what are you talking about bro?
@@ala7515atheists are useless creatures because one who didn't recognize his creator is in seriously trouble because after death there is day of judgement which is hard for unbelievers and easy for who spend life in Way of Allah Almighty
ghamdi sb aap ilm ky badshah hen
What a great.....ability...
Happy to see them all(prof hoodbhoy,Ghamdi sahb,Ahmad jaavaaid sahb ,
Ghamdi sahbbb is a great blessing
Wow !!!wonderful session...nice moderation....love this...more like that.
❤❤❤جزاک الله جاوید احمد غامدی صاحب VR ھود بھائ صاحب❤❤❤خان احمد سراے عالمگیر ❤❤❤
You can disagree on certain aspects with Ghamdi Sahab but when it comes to debate and understanding the question and process the facts and then explain those facts and figures
No one can come close to him he is matchless
"Why Cannot DNA Come into Being by Chance?
At this point, there is an important detail that deserves attention. An
error in the sequence of the nucleotides making up a gene would render
that gene completely useless. When it is considered that there are 30,000
genes in the human body, it becomes clearer how impossible it is for the
millions of nucleotides making up these genes to have been formed, in the
right sequence, by chance".
I don't think there is a conclusion that modern humans with ~30,000 odd genes came into existence out from nothing. Simple life forms with a fewer than n genes could have been a precursor to a complex life forms. I think you're building conclusions without giving any deep thought.
I am French, but of Pakistani origin, so I can understand Urdu (not everything, but most of it at least).
I must say that Mr. Hoodbhoy, despite being a nuclear physicist and certainly of great intellect, was decimated by Mr. Ghamidi here.
In the end, he simply repeated the same mistake that Mr. Ghamidi had already responded to. The universe can, of course, serve many other causes, other nations, other races, but we see that it has, AMONG OTHERS, served humans!
His latest statement therefore in no way calls into question that of Mr. Ghamidi.
aesy program ab nhi hoty
Afsos
Ghamidi knows science better than the scientists 😂 completely dominated the debate
Thats Ghamidi For You......🤷♂️❤
31:05 good argument by Ghamdi sahab
Who else is watching in 2024. Respect for Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy
Big selute to ustad ghamidi sahb
Perwez hood’s intellect seemed quite low for understanding the simple thing that human takes advantage of everything that exists over on earth.
@@AliRaza-hd5jkhood boy ko Allah hidayat dy aur hamain bhe kyn k yeah Banda itna scientific knowledge hony k bawajood bhe is ka eman shake ma hai k esy logo ki misal Allah ny pehly he Qur'an ma dy di hai k agr Kisi ko mout k bhad Zindagi ka yaqeen na ho aur uska eman Jo usy gift ka Allah ny by birth dia thaa woh shak kry aur woh ghussa ma ho tu phr usy chahaiy k aik rassi ly aur roof sy bandh kr Khud ko khtm krny ki khohish kry aur agr yeah mar jy tu phr isy Haq ul yaqeen ho jy ga jb yeah is duniya sy barzak ma jy ga phr is ko pachtawa hoga lekin us waqt kue faida nae hoga sirf pachtawa k
why we dont have such programs anymore?? why TV channels do these anymore ??
Because questioning is not allowed
Only submission.
Ghamidi Sb arhuements are more powerful and blessings for Muslims to compete with scientists
Keep thinking
Quran se evolution nikal rha hai😅
@@shabdul9779so?
Thank you very much for posting, I really appreciate it
Thanks bro... Our Youth should listen this type of Intellectual Debates..
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سٹاک مارکیٹ کے بارے میں ایک معلوماتی ویڈیو کر دیں۔ مہربانی ہوگی۔
Thanks for such a nice and polite debate. ❤
Javed Ghamidi was right at the end, others didn't try to understand the Quranic point of view of Humans test.
Ghamdi saab bht bra naam hai...
Baki 3 contenders are not even close to what Ghamdi owns
Plz also call aqeel gharvi sb a great scholar in debate with Dr pervaiz hoodbhoy
Kya bat hai ghamdi sab ki ..Masha Allah
I m big critic of ghamidi sb but he destroyed both atheist may be agnostic
Slaute to the Host.
When he realised that debate is going to erupt in a fury he immediately went to a short break😅
Our desi scientists just impress west they don’t do own search
First I wd like to Congratulate to the organizers to conduct such a dailogues, its a healthy way to discuss issues on a platform.
Mr Ghamadi is master of language , he is an excellent orator so he was using ths tools to keep hs views .... He ignored the logic , facts nd harsh reality of the society his entire arguments was based on hypothesis Mr Abbasi nd Hoodhbhoy very nicely explained tht how science is based on observation nd facts.
Hood bhai need to know limits of his knowledge and he is taking beyond.
گفتگو کا موضوع کچھ بھی ہو ، کسی کے نظریات کچھ بھی ہوں لیکن یقین جانیے مجھے ان پانچ لوگوں کو پڑھا لکھا اور مہذب کہنے میں کوئی عار نہیں ۔ ان کے برعکس جب ہمارے علماء دین کسی ٹی وی چینل پر آپس میں بیٹھتے ہیں تو پھر جو باہمی دھما چوکڑی مچتی ہے وہ مجھے یہاں نظر نہیں آ رہی ۔ میرے خیال میں گفتگو کا جو اسلوب یہاں اپنایا گیا ہے اس میں ہمارے آج کے مہمان گرامی اور اینکرز کے لیے بہت بڑا سبق ہے کہ گفتگو کرنے اور برداشت کرنے کے اطوار کیا ہوتے ہیں۔
Parvaz hoodbhoy ko basics kamzoor hai physical sciences mai
Utter rubbish!
Excellent debate... More people show question religion as well as science... There is no absolute and we have great intellectuals.
Robert Shapiro, a professor of chemistry at New York University and
a DNA expert, calculated the probability of the coincidental formation of
the 2000 types of proteins found in a single bacterium (There are 200,000
different types of proteins in a human cell). The number that was found
was 1 over 10 40000.112
Quraan paak irtaka ko byan nhi krta micro evolution to thek he magr major evolution thk nhi Quran Paak is from ALLAH ALMIGHTY and Quran is he true but science always changes its theories
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Both do not stand on solid ground. One is man of physical science and Ghamedi was once a follower of Maudidi sahab with whom he distanced himself and turned into rejecting some of ahadeeth but very good and articulate
Thanks
🎅Mullah b like ""Khaa phas gaya""😂
Phaar diya hai usne behoodboy ko😆
One is physicist and other is mathematician and chalanging creation. 😂 it is jut like you go for abdominal surgery to a cobbler.
Mashaallah Get Debate
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28: 20 agar in sawalat ka jawab ho to eman ka test kese hua.
Ye kainaat abhi naa tamaam hai shayad, ki aarahi hai dama dam sadayen Kun Faya Kun!
اگر یہ کائنات مخلوق نہیں ہے اور یہ بات کچھ سالوں بعد اکثریت کی سوچ بن جاتی ہے تو پھر اس کائنات کا نظام درہم برہم ہوجائیگا، زمیں پہ جنگل والی زندگی کا بسیرا ہوجائیگا، بڑا جب یہ محسوس کرے گا کہ میں اپنےاعمال کا جواب دہ نہیں ہوں تو پھر وہ جنگلی شیر کیطرح جب چاہیے چھوٹےکو چھیر پھاڑ کر ختم کردے۔ اس طرح کی صورتحال میں یہ نظام کیسےچلےگا
very nice video
Thanks bro indeed our youth should listen this types of Intellectual Debates
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If evolution according to professor is so true then why didn't we find many transitional hybrid species? I don't think the professor read the chapter no 6 of On the origin of species by Darwin.
Yup are right we don't found intermediate fossil lol
Many biologist argues about this stuff
If there are intermediate links why even they are found they are to rare .
Every theory has some rise and falls sometimes it rises up because it gives more positive results sometimes it lows down because results are coming against it.
Scientists believe that if theory is giving some positive results then it is true. Even the theory itself is not proved yet.
They believe in the evolution of the Corona virus and many other rapid evolutions.
But the evolution time from one species to another takes a lot of time which is not measurable by now
Bravoo Dr.Hoood bhoy
U need to watch again ur hood sahib just chang the question in end
Bhaagnay ka raasta unhain yehi mila k hazaron stars hum dykhain gay aysa hoga waysa hoga.
Kiun k unhain bhi pta hy k gamdi sb theek keh rahay thay😊😁
lmaoo hoodboy was completely destroyed
❤❤❤جزاک الله جناب جاوید احمد غامدی صاحب VR هود بھائ صاحب ❤❤❤خان احمد سراے عالمگیر ❤❤❤
amazing
Parvaz hoodboy none rational person ..... And he has given always selfish arguments 😂😂😂!
I'm a 100% sure that Pervez Hoodbhoy is a low key atheist. Anyone who has even a little bit of common sense, will be able to conclude that there's little or no evidence to suggest that humanity was born with a purpose, or that there's a creator. If there's a creator, then the next problem is, who created him?
This is the problem. If you keep asking questions, then there is none to it. There has to be a finish line. I believe that we can find a common ground between relgion and science. Accepting religion and rejecting science v accepting science and rejecting religion is both wrong.
Only created things have creators
@@MamaMama-sv3b Matter and universe is uncreated.
@@chetan_naik it’s have begging and end
It’s not for you to decide
Na tu zameen k liye hai na tu asmaan k liye
Jahan hai tere liye tu nahi jahan k liye
~ALLAMA IQBAL❤
Science has gone that far to prove certain things but after that everything is unknown.
Hoodbhoy ki dhulai ki is banday ne ....who is this scholar?
جو مادہ ایک نقطے پر مرکوز تھا اور پھر کائنات کی شکل میں پھیلتا جا رہا ہے مادے کا وہ نقطہ کہاں سے وجود پزیر ہوا ۔
سائنس اس کے بارے کیا فرماتی ہے
Nice vid.
Nice
36:42
Hoodbhoy foolishly escaped the real issue...ghamdi sb nailed it
nice video
Believing that pure chance can produce perfect designs goes well be-
yond the bounds of reason. Yet, every "explanation put forward by the the-
ory of evolution regarding the origin of life is like that. One outspoken
authority on this issue is the famous French zoologist Pierre-Paul Grassé,
the former president of the French Academy of Sciences. Grassé is a mate-
rialist, yet he acknowledges that Darwinist theory is unable to explain life
and makes a point about the logic of "coincidence", which is the backbone
of Darwinism:
The opportune appearance of mutations permitting animals and plants to
meet their needs seems hard to believe. Yet the Darwinian theory is even
more demanding: A single plant, a single animal would require thousands
and thousands of lucky, appropriate events. Thus, miracles would become
the rule: events with an infinitesimal probability could not fail to occur...
There is no law against daydreaming, but science must not indulge in it.1
well-done
ہودبھائی بھیگی بلی بن کر رہ گیا ہے غامدی کے سامنے
Ager kisi ny parrha likha jahil dekhna hy to hood bhoy ko dekh ly
30:40 Ghamidi sahab grabs the debate.
ڈاکٹر ہود جاوید احمد کی باریک باتوں کو نہیں سمجھ ریا
Ek to inka faqfa he bhr ata hai😅...baaaki javed sahib ne achay points diye lekin dusri mulvi g ne koi acha argument ne diya
without lies, islam dies
Xyz
Gjamdi sb kiyaa quraan e Paak me har Khushkk o Tar ka zikar nahee??
Hate fake intellectual ...Jo hr topic ko apna topic samajh kr shuru ho hate hn...like hoodbhoy all the time
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mera dost, ap bhi to shyd isi nazariye k teht apni rai yahan de rahay hain (or ye bi mumkin hy ki haqeeqat may ye ap k mutaiya ka topic ho)...koi ap k mutaliq bhi yehi rai qaim kr sakta hy. is comment k bajaye is behs ka wo nuqta bayan krtay jis se aap ko ikhtilaf hy, to ziyada mufeed hota.
Hoodbhoy nuclear physics ka hai bol raha hai biology pe
@@faizanhashmi389Islam ko criticism krta hai Bewakoof admi hood boy
Hoodbhoy does not even know Darwin leave alone Islam He should learn by listening to the educated scholars sitting opposite.
38:40 abhi pata nahi chala aur chaley ga bhi nahi. To jub tuk pata nahi ke aur kahan bashaoor makhlooq hai us waqt tak to mana jae ke kainat insan ke liye hai na key insan kainat ka hisa hai.
Insan sirf test kaliay Aya hai duniya ma asli jagah agr kamyab HOA tu jannat hai
Allah ke aur planets pr bhot si aur bhe maklooqat Hain jis ka hamain ilm nae dia gya Quran ka muqadma yeah hai k mrny k bhad hisab kitab jannat jahanum isliay Quran my Allah hamain is ka ilm dia hai baqi knowledge hamari dimension aur maqsad ka nae hai isliay nae btaya gya Allah k ilm ki kue limit nae hai Subhan Allah
27:40 sience ka taaluq maadi dunya se hai iradoon se nahi. Shayad is kainat ka khaliq ho. Hoodbhoy typical atheistic ya agnostic argument de rahe hai. Ap ka eman khaliq per hai ap eman wale werna. Aur quran khaliq ki pehchan ke liye sub se barri daleel kainat ke mazahirat ki deta hai. Yehi test hai.
He work against Islam
Science human knowledge hai aur jis ny human bnaya hai us ki kia Shan hai Allah o Akbar❤❤❤ in atheisteism ka jawab dia hai Allah ny Quran ma k Kia inhon ny khud bna lia hai apny AP ko jesy k atheists bongiyian Marty hain tu Mera eman Quran pr eman aur increase Hota hai
And then channels like ARY came and destroyed the entire intellect of masses
Rejection of Darwin (the whole basis o modern biology) is similar to the Fundamentalist. christian's position ie Creationist theory. This is as absurd as you can get.
Darwin is ordinary human being if he rejected God then he will answerable on the day of judgement according to his intelligence
Is it evil vs devil?
مزا آیا
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Why pervez hoodboy suddenly changed topic???
Kyoki sidhe sidhe sach bol dega toh bechara maara jayega aur jhooth bolne ki aadat nahi hai😁😁
@@kumarvikash6122 hahaha kya joke maara hai jab koi logical baat nhi hai toh aisi bongiyan Marty ho...har 3,4 din baad Islam ke khilaaf aakar bolta hai tab toh isko Kisi ne nhi maara lekin jab ek aalim ke samne Beth Raha hai toh mar jayga haha lol kya baat hai
Hoodbhoy nuclear physics ka hai ek mechanical engineering k hvac field ka ho to usse production ka sawal puch lo wo bata nahi payega . Ye jahil hoodbhoy shia khatmal ismaili hai islam ka dushman aise hi hai
Ab becharay ko bhaagnay ka rasta ni nzr aya toh kia krta
Ghamdi Sahab🔥🔥
discover Allaha first
32:40 javed sahab ka argument ke kainat hamari khidmat me lagi hai ka maqsad hargiz ye nahi ke har cheez kainat me hamare khidmat ke liye hai. Agar pani aur hawa hamari khidmat ke liye hain to selab aur tuofan is ki is khidmat ko rok nahi dete.
آپ اب بال کی کھال اتارنے کی کوشش کر رہے ہیں
Javed Ahmed ghamdi ki ya baat ka universe Mari khidmat ma lagi hoi ha ko galat tariqa sa bataya ja raha ha unho na kaha ka agar ma siraf apni zaat ka mutabaqa dakho to asa mahsoos hota ha
Hood boy Zindagi sy mayoos hai Abu jahil firon bhe Bry intellectuals thay daiko phr Allah ny unka kia Haal kia
Anybody can tell me in which year this show was aired?
2006
2006 ,I relpy to you from Hind (INDIA) from, Bihar Kishanganj ,love to Muslim brotherhood around the world
Who is the another murtad?
Yeah i also want to know who is other guy with hood hoy?
Bhai agr nature khud choose krti h or us me automation hy toh wo automation ksi na ksi ne toh bnai hogi na 😂😂 clash un cheezo ka kr k decision ly rhy ho jisy ap smjh hi ni sky.. science agr Quran k knowledge ko pura smjh ni ski.. insan ka knowledge agr us level pe phnch ni ska.. toh iska mtlb ye toh hy k dono knowledges ka comparison kia jaye ga or phr insan insan ki baat theek keh k Khaliq ki baat ko ghlt krdy ga? 😂 Agr 2 litter ki bottle me pury samandar jitna pani ni aa skta toh iska mtlb ye k jitna pani us bottle me aya h exist hi wahi krta h? Kyu k hmara knowledge bottle ki quantity tk mehdood h
Nabi As ny Jin ka knowledge tamam baqi insan aur maklooqat sy ziyada hai unhon ny apny ilm ka Allah k ilm Sy comparison krty hoey kia khobsurat Hadees irsad farmayi k Mera aur Allah k knowledge ki misal esy hai k is duniya k sary samundar k Pani sy aik qatra ungli py lgaya tu AP ka ilm aur baqi samundar Allah ka ilm sirf hm eman walo ko samjhany kaliay wrna samundar bhe kia cheez hai Allah ka ilm lamadood hai unlimited hamary dimag phat jaein . Yeah hood boy Islam logo k Halat daik kr aur Muslims k Halat daik kr jahil insan Maaz Allah Islam py question kr rha hai jb k yahan hamary log ilm sy bhot door hain. Yeah hood boy samjhta hai k western technology duniya ma ghalib hai isliay woh theik hain jb k isko nae pta k duniya ki Life aik insan kaliay temporary hai chahaiy jitni development kr ly aur phr western isko support krty hain youth ko Islam sy door krny kaliay aur isko baithy baithy paisa bna rha hai isko LG pta jy ga jb yeah mry ga Allah is ko hidayat dy aur hamain bhe
A mullah vs scientist, I know what mullah is going to say so won't watch it.
That's sign of dumb.......