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Native Peoples of Oklahoma - Christianity and Native People - 2.1.5 Traditional Practices
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2014
- “Native Peoples of Oklahoma" is a free online course on Janux that is open to anyone. Learn more at janux.ou.edu.
This course is a general introduction to the history, cultural traditions, and current condition of many of the 38 Native American tribes who reside in Oklahoma. To increase awareness and appreciation of the manners in which the Native American population of Oklahoma contributes to the unique character and capacities of our state, through cultural values, political relationships between sovereign governments, social relations in a diverse place, and enriching artistic expressions. Learners will further understand the roles that indigenous people in Oklahoma have played in national and global contexts.
Created by the University of Oklahoma, Janux is an interactive learning community that gives learners direct connections to courses, education resources, faculty, and each other. Janux courses are freely available or may be taken for college credit by enrolled OU students.
Dr. Dan Swan is Associate Professor in the Department of Anthropology and Associate Curator of Ethnology at the Sam Noble Museum of Natural History.
Dr. Joshua Nelson is Associate Professor in the Department of English.
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I personally know men and women who gather in the name of Jesus for the sweat lodge. If Jesus was here as a man today, I don't believe he would see anything wrong with gathering together for prayer in this way. We do it the same way as in a concrete building called church. Of course sweat lodge is more physically straining but I also believe that if it's the way you connect to the Holy Spirit and be in tune for worship and prayer, then do it. God wants to know you and if this is the way you open up to Him then go for it. God made me this way on purpose, to glorify Him in my own skin. God doesn't want to strip me of who I am as a Native man, but to use it for His glory.
I have done literally thousands of sweat lodge ceremonies before I became a born again Christian. It is a ceremony. It is ritual. You can believe what you want to believe, but what does Scripture say about mixing the ways of the Lord with the ways of the nations. Syncretism is the main reason why the Lord was angry with Israel all throughout the Old Testament. From Moses to Malachi, God says to not mix the two ways.
I totally agree with you. It is all about the spirit . I believe millions of good hearts and souls from EVERY NATION and EVERY CREED are moving towards a beautiful point of unity, exactly as planned by GOD.
@@1Immanuel8Nowhere in the bible does it say that you can’t do ceremonies songs dances and burn sage in the name of Jesus and God and to get closer to them. It does however say you cant try to connect with dead people/your ancestors or you will be deceived into worshipping the Devil and other fallen angels. God was mad with Israel because they were decieved into worshipping false gods meaning the Devil and his fallen angels not because they used they used their culture to connect with God
@@LocoFucker they are spiritual practices that invoke the presence and working of the spirits.
@@1Immanuel8 the bible has a LOT of spiritual practices they burn incense how is that different from burning sage except that sage is only native to the Americas not where Jesus grew up in Israel, spiritual practices don’t inherently invoke evil spirits you can use them to strengthen your own spirit in the Creator which the bible says would be good for you
But in actual honesty, it has nothing to do with culture. I recently solidified my faith with Jesus Christ, and excepted him as my Lord and Savior. I asked him to reveal himself to me, or show me a sign, so I know he is real. After having this intense prayer session that emotionally changed me Instantaneously. It was a supernatural experience all the way through. I was drenched in my own tears, and I had repented of my sins in the most genuine way possible and I believe that is the trick to this. To ask as genuinely as possible by saying sorry for all of the things that you could possibly think of that you did as a sin. And then, once you accept him as your Lord, you will start to feel these things inside of you, in unimaginable ways that are extremely positive. The best way I can describe it because it’s almost impossible to do so but in words, I would say, I was overwhelmed with unconditional love, mercy, and grace. that night I went outside to go get some fresh air and by the time I was about to head back in the house I saw this bright, fiery, intense light in the form of a cross. Immediately I felt that love and peace and it was a supernatural experience. It was just staring at me, and I was in such total shock and im awe. I knew immediately that this was a sign that I had asked for.
The very next day, I noticed everything in my life changed. All of my interests, such as music, movies. Even the jokes that I used to laugh at all, became petty and nonsensical out of nowhere. I again you that this was the Holy Spirit that was working inside of me, changing me as a man completely for the things that I could not change on my own. I even cussed like a sailor, but that dissolve out of my mouth and now when people cuss around me, I get extremely bothered and have to leave if it gets too much. That is a miracle in itself because there was nothing I could possibly do to change that. I really cussed a lot.
The reason why I came home initially to get on my knees and pray was because I was desperate for any kind of option for help. For the last 15 years of my life, I had battled back-and-forth with alcohol addiction that later evolve to opiates. In the last five years of this Demonic faith in my life that was so dark and evil, I had gone through such intense depression where every waking moment I would think of suicide. I was completely exhausted from the oppression, and that is why I cried out to Jesus. I have tried every single currently, treatment center and alternative medicine, but nothing was ever put a dent into this thing. But overnight all of the stuff, just dissolved and dissipated. I immediately knew that I was attacking the wrong thing which was the addiction. In reality we have what’s called demonic attachments, and that is why when the light comes inside of you instantly, when you accept Jesus and repent of all your sins in the most genuine way, possible the yoke around your neck that these demonic attachments have on you shatter instantaneously. You cannot see it because it’s all Spiritual, but if you had glasses, I could see the fourth dimension and above you would literally see black, shadowy figures that is controlling you with a leash like a dog in the form of a yolk around her neck, and that completely dissolves because king Jesus heals you. That is how people are able to quit cold turkey overnight with things like opiate, addiction, alcohol addiction, porn, addiction, addiction, to cussing. Marriage problems, always angry at someone or something, never having peace in your life, etc. whatever it may be all of these are demonic attachments and you have to ask God to relieve you and release you from these attachments. You first have to take away the foot holes anything in your house, such as Ouija board, dream, catchers, statues, idols, crystals, anything that ungodly you need to get it out doesn’t matter how much money you spent on the item get it all out it’s not worth losing your soul eventually because they’re attached to those things as foothold. Even the music collection get it all out Satan was actually a musician, and he uses music as one of his primary tools.
If you do not believe anything that I am saying because you don’t understand the spiritual side of this world that is because you have never been taught this. You have been deceived by Satan your entire life because he has program this thing that you guys called the matrix. From beginning of birth to status quo you watch TV shows, movies, mainstream, media news, etc. these or program you into thinking a certain perception of what “reality” is. Everything that you see through that tube 99% it’s all fake. Again if you do not believe me, go to the quietness and privacy of your room tonight and surrender it all to king Jesus. Again the trick to this is to ask him to forgive you in the most genuine way possible from the bottom of your heart. In order to do this, you need to humble yourself at first and bring all of your brokenness all of the hardships that you’re currently enduring whatever you’re sick and tired of in life, he will heal you so talk to him like he would to a compassionate, loving father. Good luck tonight and God bless.
I'm a Cree Indian from Canada. I do not agree with keeping my "culture " and having Christ. Luke 14:33 So therefore, any one of you who does not renounce all that he has cannot be my disciple.
I want Christ more than my culture. This is asked of every nation of people that desires to follow Jesus. God help us!
Amen i think especially those parts of culture that does not glorify our God
Our older ancestors believed in YHWH Adam eve , noah and maybe even some later on . So YHWH is the true God of every nation and all others are worship of fallen angels and other unclean powers that came later .
I am a Christian who happens to be a Sri Lankan Canadian. My home church in Sri Lanka taught me how to be a light without forsaking the good things in my culture which glorified God . There are things which can be redeemed. I grew up listening to praise and worship music in my native tongue which used our native musical instruments and art forms which was inspired by the power of the Holy Spirit because all that belongs to God anyway, Satan just hijacked and perverted everything that God created. On the other hand, I would not do yoga exercises as it opens the door to the devil. One of the things that God used to keep me alive as a teenager growing up there was a music of a Christian Metal band from Norway named Extol I put myself to sleep listening to their music many times, there were days I wondered if I’d wake up with a roof over my head (during wartime). Following Christ does not mean that you forsake the good things in your culture that bring honour to God. I was able to have intimate glimpses into many good things pertaining the lifestyle and culture of one First Nations people group in Northern B.C. when I was working up there which did not compromise my faith whatsoever such as fish camp and learning to bead :). I hope that this will be of some help. God bless you .Of course when we become Christians our identity is that we are children of God and should want more of Him. As He made us in His image the godly good things in our respective cultures are a reflection of Him.
@@lydiaperera3776 well I agree that there is a difference . Some things in the culture a good and some are just bad Holy Spirit will guide us I mean the western Culture is also worldly and ungodly for a huge part
@Wayne i am a Metis from canada. part french and cree. i agree. Christ comes before our culture.
Whoaa! I'm an adopted traditional Lakota pipe keeper and sun dancer who came to faith 10 years ago. The brother gave this guy very bad advice. You are actually talking about spirituality, not so much culture. (There are differences, with blurry boundaries.) You cannot mix and match Christian spirituality and Indigenous spirituality. 1 Cor 10.21: You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the Lord’s table and of the table of demons.
I really appreciate this comment if you don't mind is there somewhere that I can go to learn more and how did you know those fine lines I'm interested in learning about my cultural as a native and even possibly moving to the reservation and go back to whatever was taken for me culturally
Sooo you're insinuating that SunDancers are demons ???
I believe Chirst lives in the 🔥 ... i believe Christianity is mergable with Indigenous wayz.. just look @ NAC .. beautiful harmonious synergistic blend ❤️🔥 Amen Aho ❣️❣️
@@PedroPeyolo Jesus is the Creator. He doesn't want me doing ceremony any more. I listen to the Creator, and what he tells me to do in his book. Who do you listen to?
@7Immanuel7 i talk to Jesus IN Ceremony... he hugs my Heart in the Tipi & guides me ❤️🔥
@@1Immanuel8 Nowhere in the bible does it say that you can’t do ceremonies songs dances and burn sage in the name of Jesus and God and to get closer to them. It does however say you cant try to connect with dead people/your ancestors or you will be deceived into worshipping the Devil and other fallen angels
i am a mixed black men and i think native are the best story tellers and one one the most spiritual if not the most one of the most spiritual people you ever meet on this planet jesus himself was a middle eastern native so of Couse he would love his people as munch as anyway to join and read the gospel native been thought a lot but only because jesus trust his people with so munch gift that he want them to spread the love to the world native are amazing people god bless all and stay safe
Your mixed sir your not Black. The one drop rule is fantasy.
Our Creator, Father God, Jesus Christ, and The Holy Spirit
Will always be what ' its ' all about.
"For whenever the Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature the things required by the law, these who do not have the law are a law to themselves. " Romans 2:14
"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things." Philippians 4:8
There is a line that is crossed where one commits the grave sin of paganism and this should never be taken lightly. But the church fathers frequently incorporated ideas and concepts from pagans that were not against the commandments of God. For example the classical metaphysical concepts were used as tools to explain theological realities. Like that Jesus Christ is the Word. Or the hypostatic union, etc... Also all peoples have long held legends of old, some of which speak about events in our ancient past. Like the great deluge, the defeat of the great sea serpent, the abominable giant offspring, the confusion of languages, etc... now our ancestors (whether from northern and eastern europe like mine or like the ancient American traditions) spoke of many of these things, though through cloudiness and confusion. So we should not treat them as we do the Word of God, but anything lawful and fitting that comes from our pagan ancestors should not just be thrown out if it is noble and true.
Also though we do not know for sure, I believe the first verse points to the fact that those who had not heard yet thr gospel, but loved God Almighty and did what is right will he saved by Jesus Christ as well.
Christmas/Easter is a pagan tradition ... 🎄 🎅 🐰 🥚
Such an amazing sharing of native peoples Christianity.
Here is a beautiful quote that many here will love . 'Let your ambition be the achievement on earth of a heavenly civilisation' [Bahai teaching]
John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 9:19-23
King James Version
19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.
22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
23 And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.
The God of Israel Is Real.
Believe in His SON +
you want too know? but even i don't really understand...?
my name is unknown but i was given a birthmark on my face!
can it mean i bear the sin of many? with shame my head is bowed!
I've suffered in youth also came close to death...more then twice! but also died!
I've seen the light with joy i embraced it but also witnessed darkness...was i afraid?
no i thought it was strange like me...but every one should know!
in times of dark, fear not! but fear HE...your CREATOR!!!
YOUR SALVATION IS THROUGH HE!!! OUR GOD, HIMSELF!!!
even the servant of god knows better...not to bring anyone else before him!!!
but ill tell you this the job isn't finished yet...OUR CREATOR HAS A PLAN!!!
pray and repent...for days are coming of the unknown!?
The 7 grandfather teachings are the Noah hide teachings that’s a beautiful seal of Melchezedek star he is wearing on his bowline tie. The creator has one teaching it is for all people. There are differences in how that teaching was revealed and transmitted to different peoples. Let’s have less judgement more good works. I hope all the children of the first parents can join hands in unison around the fire.
Amen Aho ❣️❣️💙❤️🔥💙❤️🔥 NAC is The Way The Truth The Light
Jesus taught his desciples for an important reason & purpose. After Christ's death, resurrection & ascension Those same desciples went N, S, E & west to many different Nations and cultures. And each of those disciples helped teach Christ teachings and adapted them to each of their very different cultures. They may have different ways in which they show gratitude and worship the Great creator and the Messiah. HOWEVER, they all were taught to know the trinity, to put God first and have a individual relationship with him, and to make their individual decisions to become saved and a born again Christian.
If these disciples would call different societies "heathens" and their practices "pagan" - when in reality they really are recognizing Christ in their own cultures way of doing so, then we lose them as believers and we disrespect their culture.
In human history, the most successful and largest missionary effort was that of Jonah. Jonah was actually a racist and looked down upon the Nineveh culture. And yet God still called him to go and preach the word to them. With much reluctance, Jonah finally gave in to God and obeyed him and went to Nineveh. And the entire culture, from the King down changed from their worshiping other entities and they looked up to the One true light and gave their lives to the one creator. I think there was over 500,000 in that City Maybe more!
God has a plan for his people and we need leaders to stop listening to the naysayers and go forth to the cultures that God wants to give his word to.
We must ask ourselves, are we helping others to see and find the truth or are we coming up with excuses? Obey the Truth only. To God be the glory! God is far more wise and patient and gracious and shows us love more than us fallen humans here on Earth. Have we been resurrected with Christ yet and brought back to the light? Or are we still stumbling here as a fallen son or daughter of Adam and Eve?
There are many confused people without knowledge today wandering around everywhere. These people need the truth for direction and wisdom.
True but humans are not fallen from heaven we were created here and we were created without sin until God gave a us a choice after Lucifer and 1/3 of the angels fell from heaven and hated us so they came to decieve us and destroy us. Adam and Eve chose to disobey God and thats why there is death and sin
Amen to that brother and that’s true history 😇 🙏
If they speak not according to THIS WORD, it is because there is no light in them... Black Hispanics and Natives... the 12 tribes of Israel rejoined, and suffering together as Prophesied
I see what he's saying..but yea it's about the father son and holy spirit always was ,,is,,n gonna be,,praise our lord Jesus
Being forced to practice the religion of the colonizers and choosing to do so is very different. How do you all sleep at night?
maybe honor shouldn't matter who know only one person really deserves it....
you want too know? but even i don't really understand...?
my name is unknown but i was given a birthmark on my face!
can it mean i bear the sin of many? with shame my head is bowed!
I've suffered in youth also came close to death...more then twice! but also died!
I've seen the light with joy i embraced it but also witnessed darkness...was i afraid?
no i thought it was strange like me...but every one should know!
in times of dark, fear not! but fear HE...your CREATOR!!!
YOUR SALVATION IS THROUGH HE!!! OUR GOD, HIMSELF!!!
even the servant of god knows better...not to bring anyone else before him!!!
but ill tell you this the job isn't finished yet...OUR CREATOR HAS A PLAN!!!
pray and repent...for days are coming of the unknown!?
Thank you Lord for: 1. ALL ministries that spread the Gospel for Kingdom building. 2. My ministry of 4.5yrs, of 'Intercession for Salvation of the Tribes of the Americas'. IJN. 🤴🛐🕊🪶🦅
Not one word of scripture
Nowhere in the bible does it say that you can’t do ceremonies songs dances and burn sage in the name of Jesus and God and to get closer to them. It does however say you cant try to connect with dead people/your ancestors or you will be deceived into worshipping the Devil and other fallen angels
Sounds to me like what you're offering is a softer landing to hell. You should be starting out by preaching the Gospel. This means that you tell the they were born sinners, they're bound for hell, and only by believing in Jesus Christ (that He is God who died for our sins) can they be saved. As Christians we don't condone worshipping demons. The goal is not to gather weeds, but grains. In other words, it's more important to bring in a few true converts, than a who lot of unconverted fakes. Let all hear the Gospel and God will save those that truly want to be saved.
MANY... IDOLS of Jesus in the United States of America and Jesus was NOT a God or the CHRIST. And, Gods have Names, and God was NOT Jesus's father.
Indians are kewl people, I don't agree with the pagan practices though.
Being Christian doesn’t mean you give up your culture. It’s sad to see that many white Americans gave up their traditions and cultures to adapt to the monolithic Protestantism in the US.
They're called Native Americans and we're not pagan. Witches are pagans
@@AylaNoelleLee
Pagan means "to believe in many gods"
@@cL-bf2ug Being a Christian means be a disciple of Christ and that means not compromising with false religious practices. Emperor Constantine brought Roman pagan things into the church and synchronised it with Christianity. Martin Luther realised that what the Roman Catholic Church was teaching wasn't Biblical. Hence the reason why the reformation and why it's important.
@@nordscan9043
Everything the church teaches us biblical, everything. Read the writings of the church fathers and study the Bible before hating on the Catholic Church, as well as the Eastern Orthodox.
God created the people who Made the Culture so 🤔
Christiania
United States of Grace
I know it said that some natives don’t wanna give up there land but natives will not go instinct hehe
What happens when you do stuff like that is curses and demonic oppression. You give the enemy a legal right in your life.