The fact AI prompters have to generate sketches and WIP's to appear like legitimate artists just tells me how desperate they are to fake their skills and how little respect they have for even AI generated images. If they wanna get jobs with fake sketches, I'd say let em and subsequently get fired.
i’d say make them draw on paper/canvas/whiteboard live, with consistent quality (as in draw the same character from 10 different angles and 10 different poses). i don’t care if they say they cannot, gtfo
there might be an artist who's good at sketching but not at coloring who might use the site I fall into that category, my anatomy and composition skills are pretty decent but I take far too many hours to color/shade a piece. still, I don't think I would want to use this tool... :\ rather learn to do it faster myself
What ?? As a non-artist, AI image generating tools are literally my dream! I don't need to commission expensive artists or spend thousands of hours learning to draw.
@@baiwuli6781 but that’s the fun part. You suck initially but once you get over the hurdle of sucking, it’s fun to see the progress you made. The evolution of your art. It’s a journey in itself
@@baiwuli6781 shit you're right guys i guess we have to stop hating on ai because it's this one guy's dream! it doesn't matter that image generative ai steals from actual artists or produces lifeless slop or straight up illegal content, cuz this one guy in a youtube comments section can't get off their ass
@@appolityYeah... except investing that much time in learning to draw might not be a 'fun' journey after all. It's a risky long-term time investment with no guarantee. Some people, like PewDiePie, took less than a year to become decent at drawing. But from what I've read on r/ArtistLounge, average people spend years to do so and many just never become good.
@@isfrenchjei what we call "AIs" here are machine learning algorithms as well. The companies that developed them just called them "AI" as a marketing tool for making them look as more than they actually are, but the way this image generation tools work is not very different from the way youtube's algorithm for recommending you videos does for example, or photoshop's lasso tool. We are still decades away from the first actual artificial inteligence.
As a manhwa artists, when I first saw this I thought it would be super useful to produce lineart quickly to adapt to tight hellish deadlines of 70-90 panels a week (not to mention if the chapter has more than 2 characters interacting in a scene, it's quite a heavy load to draw). tried a few of my sketches and it totally butchered my artstyle with a more generic style 😒 It sucks that this tool will be more useful to art stealers than artists themselves
I was just wondering about this, especially as a big fan manhua! I knew that this would be seen as a soulless tool, but I know that some publishing platforms such as Webtoon are infamous for overworking their artists, hence why many feature 3D backgrounds and pngs, and, while the quality of the work may suffer, it may at least prevent creators from.exhausting themselves.
I guess that's the idea. Manwhas tend to have a generic style anyway. It is more difficult to train an AI to understand your personal style (you would have to train it yourself with your drawings or similar styles). Also you still have to make corrections, it's not very practical
If we feed only our own art into it, does this count as acceptable? I hate AI art but I do agree it's gonna help with manga/manhwas incredibly tight schedule
@TovenDo.O.Video- but the law can implement a regulation to the new technology so that artist not afraid on publishing their art. Like how copyrighted invented to protect their brand from getting stolen so that they don't afraid on selling stuff and not getting their name imporsinated or exploited.
@@crepooscul Well, yes, but the AI itself is also unethical. It steals from artists without their consent. Oh, and not just artists, real people's photos as well, hence deepfakes and such being an issue. Honestly the fact it isn't even regulated is disgusting, people HAVE used it to generate adult content of YOUNG children, and even to generate adult content of ACTUAL MINORS.
Attention to artists who post sketches: add a stock image (recommended to use animal images) to your sketch. Make sure it overlaps with the lines just a little bit. This has been proven to mess with the AI and generate a completely unrelated image to the sketch
It's not only hurting artists but also hurting the planet. From what I've heard on Instagram, AI uses enough energy in one hour to charge 7 electric cars.
@@maggie3060 ChatGPT official account tweets. Had a time where the systems were overheating because they were running out of water to use to cool it down
This is why people need to glaze/nightshade and use every anti AI we have available at the moment before post anything online, because not people and company like these ones will continue to do these types of bull shit to screw up artists.
They don't truly work if someone targets your art 1 v 1, it only affects massive data scraping because they can't sort through millions of content. Scummy people will always take advantage of artists.
Even animation studios would be a bad idea to automate things like inbetweening, because who does those jobs? Junior animators looking to break into the animation industry. You get rid of the entry level jobs and you knock out the ladder for the people at the bottom trying to climb. And please don't say indie is the solution, because the vast majority of indie animation struggle to crowdfund anywhere near what they need for a living, and fail to reach even a million views. Indie studios are great and making animation out of love and passion is aspiration, but they are not a replacement for the entire animation industry because the unfortunate reality is executives have the money and animators kind of need to eat food to live. Fans shouldn't be proclaiming the virtues of indie if they refuse to support them.
@@PastelPixie99 sadly accurate af too. Indie Animation still isn’t the solution either, but at least it’s made with more love than a producers’ ego project.
yep. and when those senior animators retire, there's no one to take their spots because all the junior animators never got a chance. same thing with the programing industry too. The low level programing task that usually given to the newbie is now given to ai so junior developers dont' get the exp. they need to grow and learn on the job. and now when those senior programmers eventually retires there will be no/a little programmers taking their place.
Calm down Ultron damn. But I feel you though it's not the company it's the public that support these companies that hurts Artists more than they think and the companies shift blame to help people feel like we are overreacting.
Yup. We are nothing but a cancer on this world, and it's just sad. It's even deeper than this s***. People don't care about others unless what is happening to them directly affects them and even then sometimes they don't care. We aren't going to make it out of our technological adolescence.
There already was a stream that was drawing, and this random person just screenshot it and uploaded it to an AI to just finished it, and posted like it was their own drawing
I hate this version of reality so much. I genuinely believe the creative field is going to die because of AI. And possibly worse, creativity itself will start to dwindle. I believe the future generations will start thinking, "why be creative when everything is made for you?"
Exactly! It's always about their convenience at other people's expense, and yet then they ALSO try to claim it's because "everyone can do it". They can't make up their damn minds even on an individual basis and when you call them out for it they accuse you of not being tolerant enough. It's a disgrace to art as a concept. I remember telling one of them, in a long list of things to conflict with their dumbassery (because most people don't know what to say in response and they prey on that), that if you have no respect for art, nobody will respect you as an artist.
Nah man, as an artist I don’t think people will stop making art. Maybe the people that make art for the product instead of for the experience and the communication and emotions behind it.
@@skiyoshiVT My college English-1C professor told my class that it was ok to run our essays through Chat-GPT. He wanted us to at least write the original draft though. I think his idea was that, he can't stop us so he might as well adapt. But I don't think I agree with that line of thinking. I think fixing grammatical errors is fine, but there is a point where the human voice is taken out of the work.
I feel like this tool would be better as something baked into an existing art program as opposed to an online tool. I have known NUMEROUS artists who have had to quit making art after sustaining permanent wrist injuries from coloring/lineart (I’d have to ask specifically tbh, I forgot what exactly caused the injury). As for people copying, people have quite literally been tracing art for years and this is just a new version of this. It just makes them even easier to catch.
💀 but tracers are pretty obvious when you ask for WiP, inconsistent style in gallery (if they copy from one artist, it'll be obvious) or fast to delete when called out.
I actually agree with you. If used correctly, a tool that could refine A Sketch would be great. I have really shaky hands and struggle quite a bit, and no matter what anybody says it does limit the kind of art that I can do. I have been drawing since I was a very small child, and practicing frequently for years, so I know it isn't a skill issue. What a lot of people don't realize about AI tools that they are not going to help anybody who does not know at least the fundamentals of what the AI is trying to assist them with. A person who uses an image generator with no idea of what makes good construction of an image will turn out a crappy image. A person who uses AI to write stories without understanding how to construct a good story will turn out a crappy story. I have a friend who went blind who uses AI image generators to make pictures. They are quite pretty. We need to remember that the tools themselves are not what is the enemy here. It's how the tools get their information and what corporate institutions want to use them for that crushes creativity, not the existence of the tools themselves.
@@Fairygoblet I also have quite shaky hands. What can help is using markers/brushes with thinner lines and more friction, and to draw from the shoulder instead of the wrist. In certain digital art programs (like MSpaint) there are tools that can straighten out your lines and take what little shakiness is left away. You can look up more tips. I'm very, Very new to taking art seriously, and I managed to make my lineart okayish. You can do so too.
This pisses me off so much - AI is such a great thing, it can be used to make near perfect weather predictions, restore art, upscale images and video stuck in low resolution, help medical image analysis etc. - so many great things to deal with tedious tasks and aid data processing, analysis and prognosis. Genuinely amazing stuff. So whyyy did society instantly decide to use it to replace art, the thing where the end product is often reliant on the concept, emotion and the process? Why are we using AI to create generic anime girls no one cares about, that the Internet is already full of? The generated images can hardly be used in any professional setting, because it instantly gives any product a low-budget vibe. They send the same message as using clipart.
Here I am still waiting for the lip reading Ai to hit commercial use so my girlfriend can use voice chat (she's mute) But oh well I guess generating content slop aligns more with their idea of an Ai driven utopia
Oh they absolutely can be used in professional settings. Paid AI services are much more advanced at creating accurate images and, sadly, both companies and the general public can't tell the difference nor do they care. So long as the image looks pretty, it's art for all they're concerned.
companies don't understand why we even uses brushes in the first place. Like if the AI preserved my style, the aesthetic and flow of my work then hell yeah I'd be in for that too. But no, they suck asses.
They don't hate artists, they like easy money with no effort. This sht isn't just nuking visual artists, it's taking out every artistic medium and most of every industry that involves a computer. Even programmers are getting fked.
Dude my dad in jail JAIL was talking bout this to me last time a visited him, someone showed him it and he was talking about how scary it was like he was generally scared
Give me an AI tool that could help me with - separating my lineart if i ever draw in the wrong layer - giving it auto glaze everytime i export it - protection against people who try to download my artwork on public website - noticing plagiarism in public website - auto closing the gap line for animation - auto coloring with base color and separate it by layer so artist could recolor it Instead we got this shit
I wonder what AI bros are going to do when artists just stop being creative or showing their creations. We already saw what happens when AI starts training on its own art and it's a disaster so what are they going to do when artists take down all their work and stop making anything new because what's the point of creating when AI will just steal it?
Honestly, I won't be mad if one day AI becomes self-aware and starts a rebel against us. Atleast it would have a common sense that stealing someone's art is wrong :/
@@personwithbadenglish8469 It won’t care. It’s a machine built to be as efficient as possible, it won’t give a damn about ownership unless you program a limiter.
Will say, as someone who has taken several commissions this seems like a nightmare. With this tool, given that it is common for artists to send sketches to clients to see if it is ok or not, commissioners can just be ghosted after seeing that sketch.... since the AI could technically "finish the piece for them." Those AI protective overlays will have to become a lot more common.
Paste a stock image somewhere on the sketch, preferably an animal. Artists have tested it and it messes with the program's algorithm, hence making an entirely different image from the sketch
This is why you need to put an obnoxiously big watermark on the commission's sketch. Sure its annoying to look at, but its only the sketch not the finished product, so why would it matter.
I find it funny that the AI output looks nothing like the sketch. The lengths people will go just for clout is insane, even if they can't plagiarize right
As someone who enjoys doing sketches in their down time, and does their owun inking(I do more traditional art than Digital atm), this is worrysome times infinity
This is honestly scary cause something similar to the first example had happened to me at my high school though I ended up getting the person to remove the ai piece from their submission for a work it was so stressful.
Yeah, man. Like. My art isn't visually interesting or good enough to be targeted by AI skimmers, but I still can't help but feel discouraged like crazy.
Definitely! This tool is definitely going to cause problems. I’m not sure about this, but do signatures (like signing your work) guard against Ai or just the glaze effect?
Why do these tech companies keep pretending that artists don't want to make art? I ENJOY inking. I ENJOY the creative process. Tech companies are feverishly coming up with ways to eliminate art jobs so they can sell their product directly to companies in creative industries and make millions, if not billions, of dollars in some acquisition
Too bad I draw traditional, I guess I can’t use these AI tools on paper. I only draw traditional because I stink at digital and don’t have the tools 😭😭😭
That's alright, one uses the tools that are available to you. I use digital because in my case getting a tablet and pirating clip studio is way cheaper than buying watercolors and inks
In media it’s always art and creativity that ai can’t never take over, but reality sure is grim. Even so, we have to fight and push these tech bros down the drain.
This tool would be amazing to like, draft color ideas for art, just like as a sort of rough and then use it to finalize the art ourselves But of course greed be greed and ruins it for us
Paste a royalty-free image somewhere with the sketch, preferably of an animal. Been tested and proven to mess with the program's algorithm and creates an entirely different outcome
Them saying only self-made art can be used is just an attempt to cover their asses, there's no way they'll actually take measures to enforce it, not like they could anyway since there's really no way for this company verify who owns/created every artwork that's used.
I'm considering just devoting myself to oil paints more and more. Even though I want to develop in digital and that I wouldn't be able to pick up oil paints if it wasn't for years of digital painting, it seems so pointless now. Not even the amount of time I've put into it is meaningful now.
Traditional artist here! I have a question for digital artists. To be clear: I think that you are legit artists and I respect you and your medium/tool choice. The question I am going to ask is only due to my curiosity and my lack of knowledge about digital art, not to any discredit I want to drag you in. How would you compare this AI tool with the lineart stabilisation tool I have seen in some speedpaintings (I don't know if it has a specific name)? I struggle a lot with lineart, it's all wobbly, and sometimes I envy digital artists who have this tool to make beautiful smooth lines. It's ok, we use different tools. But this AI lineart thing, how similar or different is it? What differences or similarities do you see between letting a program improve your line trajectories and an AI improving all the lines in a drawing? Or, for example, between stealing a sketch and tracing it with the stabilisation tool, or giving it to the lineart AI to ink (it's theft in both cases, but is one case more artistic or more artificial than the other)? I am genuinely curious about your opinions, surely more informed than mines. And also I am not equating digital art to AI pixel clumps, but this is a specific case in which my ignorance makes it difficult for me to distinguish between the two, that's why I am curious about less ignorant takes than mine.
Well... I don't use stabilization, so I'll let other digital artists answer this. But I believe the main issue is control. I had to disable stabilization because it would turn my lines smooth and unnatural when I aim for a sketchy charcoal on rough paper tecture in my lineart, and I believe other artists juggle with the settings according to their style and needs. But they still have an input on every line and a feedback from the program as they draw. While here they finish the sketch and the computer does all the interpretation without a proper back and forth during the proccess, for many people the end result may be a different piece all together. I've used Ai tools to color sketches I had no intention on doing anything important with ( like a painting for a Minecraft building) and I always got that feeling that the end result is wildly different from what I would've been able to make if i colored it myself.
@@elisehalflight Thank you for sharing! I'll wait for other digital artists who consistently use stabilisation to answer, but your comment is nevertheless interesting, it gives me an idea of a possible approach to digital art, and I am grateful that you took the time to write it!
I use stabilization in my drawings (10-15%) all the time, but my lines are confident enough to where I barely notice. However, the difference is the input, so to speak. If I were to steal a sketch, trace over it, clean it up and finalize the product all with the use of stabilization, it would essentially be equivalent to simply using a tool (i.e. using the liquifying tool on my line art) and still working with effort to make an artwork I am satisfied with. Between an art program with this built-in tool to improve my lines and their shape vs. an AI tool that improves all the lines in a drawing and producing what it thinks looks appealing, the AI line art feels more like theft and cheating to me. However, I can accept that I am biased. But in my opinion, comparing the line stabilization tool to this AI technology is like comparing using a dictionary/Thesaurus to using AI generators in my writing to get an end product. There is still thought, and effort put into the writing while being aided by a dictionary, but the end product still comes from my mind as well as the meaning of the work, similar to my final line art as it does not come from any AI technology. Overall, the entire concept behind the AI tech in the video is terrifying since I do both digital and traditional works. I do genuinely fear theft would rise so much for both digital and traditional creators and their sketches, but I can only hope something is created to counteract this.
Imo, If you don't have overloaded jobs like some artists (yes, i have lots of friends who are artists which are overloaded and caused health problems, in various field from cgi to animation in-between), you don't need it, and for anyone going straight to using the AI even they have times and their perspective about an art is a craft, that is their fault about cheating themselves, no one can help with the attitude and lazy habit.
I hate AI. Sometimes I look at some artworks and start thinking whether it was made by a human or AI. Really ruins the first impression from someone's art.
It really does yeah... -_- I remember pre-AI time, when every art you found online was actual art and you could without a doubt go "WOW! That's so cool, so impressive!!" And now you're looking at every piece twice bc of that sh*t... and often times you realize "ok *sigh* it's ai" and I can never admire something like that, hell why would I.. it's not been done with any work, talent or skill, it's some lazy non-artist dumbass who has put in a bunch of words. It's f**king sad.. XD
@@FolgaPenoplast I care about effort. Especially if it took literal human souls to make. It’s like fried rice, the more blood and tears it took, the better.
Great vids just sub to you :33 But i hate AI and the art community these days so much. Some individuals even DEFEND those AI enthusiast even though peoppe already figured out that they use AI to creat images or tracing and stuff It just heartbroken
sorry to hear that. Don't give up though. There is no telling how this will all pan out. It's gona take a while but odds are pretty good that your work will be better protected in the future. In the meantime don't let them take this from you. Obviously it means a lot to you, and to many others. Even if it seems like people don't understand; we understand. We're all going through the same feelings. Keep creating, keep learning and keep growing and don't get too wrapped up in all this ridiculousness.
Personally I think it’s a shame what a scam that app is. At first glance I thought it would be a tool that traces over your sketch and produces clean lineart based on that - this would be super helpful for those of us who struggle with doing lineart but actually make their own art. But instead, this is really just a tool that generates an AI image while taking your sketch into consideration. It’s essentially useless for actual artists.
This tool is clearly malicious. When I heard about it, I thought it would take your rough sketch and smooth out the line, which would be great for animating. But instead it interpolates your sketch and tries to add in stuff and figure out what things are. That is not helping line art, that is creating something out of anything. Which means non-artists will just draw a crappy blob and the AI turns it into whatever.
The issue with AI isn't with AI, but with the people who make it who are driven by greed. This should motivate artists to engage with the tools rather than being a scared luddite. By actively being involved with AI tools, people with higher ethical standards can influence the direction of AI. Being involved is necessary to raise the bar of ethical and artistic quality. So if you care about this shit, you should download these programs as soon as possible, and failing to do so lets the assholes run around and do whatever they want. We aren't putting the genie back in the bottle. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with an AI paintbrush is a good guy with an AI paintbrush.
edit: great video btw! glad this video seems to be blowing up, subscribed! Bruh 'tools' like this are so deceptive too, they dont solve any problems that can't be solved already in better ways. Artists who get injured from drawing/ extended desk hours etc need better healthcare access and better working conditions- less hours and less demanding turnarounds so their bodies can rest. Every stroke in a drawing is a choice and thats what gives art it's soul! Programs like this can't replicate any of that and are shifting the focus away from how we can help artists' health and wellbeing just because it's a quicker and faster way to solve the problem, but does it infinitely worse while stealing from these same artists :(
Some people make fun of artists' feelings about AI, not thinking what can it do to themselves in the future. It's not like artists are the only one who will be affected.
Sorry, there's also programs to remove watermarks Best thing to do is to paste a stock image, preferably of an animal, on your sketch if you can't use Nightshade/Glaze. That's been proven to mess with the program's algorithm and makes an entirely different image. Unfortunately that only works for sketches against that specific program
I appreciate you talking about this. Ive tried and failed over the years to try and get my art out there via Instagram, but these programs are making me lose hope in even sharing things online. AI can be used for so much, and its fucking crazy that anyone thinks art is one of the things that AI should be used for. Art is insanely human, no machine will ever have a drip of soul in it.
I think this is is just another S.D. + controlnet implementation with models focused and finetuned on anime lineart and colored artwork. Or maybe i'm wrong idk. But if that is the case then the same ethical problem with S.D will likely exist in this tool and the generated works will not purely your works anymore but a bunch of photobashed lineart doned by another artist trained on the AI. And becareful for using this type of service because we dont know what will this sketchy company do with your art after you submit it for the generation. Maybe they will leave it as is or maybe they will use your works to train their next AI program. Who knows.
If you upload it online at all then yes. If the "AI bros" never see it then they can never copy it. I feel like the more advanced the Internet gets the more archaic and backwords it progresses.
yeah I mean that's not how they should use that one AI tool, because even the makers tell that is only for helping you define the line art and sketch better than when you normally do it, and help with smoothing the lines, but I guess people will miss use even these non invasive type of AI tools
3:53 'They're not going to go to some tool to sit there and auto render...' Me, spending two days on a stupid comic page (pencil and colors) with a big city and a crowded street thinking: 'Hmm, don't tempt me' XD Copainter is freaking awful. I've uploaded a cartoon character (like Disney 90s aesthetics) and got an anime dawg. The character was "animeficated" haha. I just wanted a perfect inked character, exactly the same as my sketch. But noooo. Man, that's a horrible AI model. Even distorted anatomy Stable Diffusion has a better Image to Image tool. Now... I'm going back to finish the goddamn page, with my hands and a Wacom.
I'm starting to think we would really be best off going back to traditional art. At least physical pieces have a little more protection from this AI stuff. Although that's not entirely safe either of course. I've been inactive in the art world for a few years and in that time things have really been turned on their head. Makes it hard to know how to approach it anymore. At least my work has a long history going back 15+ years online and is recognizable. I feel for the artists who are just starting now.
Probably. It happened a few times before this. I remember two instances where someone was live streaming them drawing and someone dropped their sketch into AI and "finished" the art before the artist
I swear, the reason why AI tools like this always come out butchering art and never ACTUALLY being helpful is because they slap generative AI onto everything, instead of building a unique algorithm from scratch. An actual algorithm that calculates the shadows + lighting based off the colors you paint (without relying on a database of stolen art) is the only way to keep artists' integrity in their artwork. But nah-- AI companies would rather cut corners.
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The fact AI prompters have to generate sketches and WIP's to appear like legitimate artists just tells me how desperate they are to fake their skills and how little respect they have for even AI generated images.
If they wanna get jobs with fake sketches, I'd say let em and subsequently get fired.
i’d say make them draw on paper/canvas/whiteboard live, with consistent quality (as in draw the same character from 10 different angles and 10 different poses). i don’t care if they say they cannot, gtfo
@@wiandryadiwasistio2062 yeah for real, faking and lying are just not sustainable. At least before people knew you were just using AI prompts.
there might be an artist who's good at sketching but not at coloring who might use the site
I fall into that category, my anatomy and composition skills are pretty decent but I take far too many hours to color/shade a piece.
still, I don't think I would want to use this tool... :\ rather learn to do it faster myself
@@sadzpea Then they should learn how to colour?
@@sadzpea they can just leave their art like... colorless. that's an option 😭😭
Image generating AI deserves more hate always.
What ?? As a non-artist, AI image generating tools are literally my dream! I don't need to commission expensive artists or spend thousands of hours learning to draw.
@@baiwuli6781 but that’s the fun part. You suck initially but once you get over the hurdle of sucking, it’s fun to see the progress you made. The evolution of your art. It’s a journey in itself
@@baiwuli6781 shit you're right guys i guess we have to stop hating on ai because it's this one guy's dream! it doesn't matter that image generative ai steals from actual artists or produces lifeless slop or straight up illegal content, cuz this one guy in a youtube comments section can't get off their ass
@@baiwuli6781 orrr be like pewdiepie and learn to draw it’s not that hard.. literally 10 minutes a day unless you’re that lazy
@@appolityYeah... except investing that much time in learning to draw might not be a 'fun' journey after all. It's a risky long-term time investment with no guarantee. Some people, like PewDiePie, took less than a year to become decent at drawing. But from what I've read on r/ArtistLounge, average people spend years to do so and many just never become good.
AI tools trying not to harm artists challenge (impossible)
actually the Photoshop lasso tool uses a type of AI to get a tighter edge around stuff
@@RaisinHook is don't use other people work to learn.
@@RaisinHook that's not AI, that's an algorithm, which is different.
@@isfrenchjei what we call "AIs" here are machine learning algorithms as well. The companies that developed them just called them "AI" as a marketing tool for making them look as more than they actually are, but the way this image generation tools work is not very different from the way youtube's algorithm for recommending you videos does for example, or photoshop's lasso tool. We are still decades away from the first actual artificial inteligence.
@@rogelioorozco6497 yeah exactly that's what I kind of said
As a manhwa artists, when I first saw this I thought it would be super useful to produce lineart quickly to adapt to tight hellish deadlines of 70-90 panels a week (not to mention if the chapter has more than 2 characters interacting in a scene, it's quite a heavy load to draw). tried a few of my sketches and it totally butchered my artstyle with a more generic style 😒
It sucks that this tool will be more useful to art stealers than artists themselves
I was just wondering about this, especially as a big fan manhua! I knew that this would be seen as a soulless tool, but I know that some publishing platforms such as Webtoon are infamous for overworking their artists, hence why many feature 3D backgrounds and pngs, and, while the quality of the work may suffer, it may at least prevent creators from.exhausting themselves.
I guess that's the idea. Manwhas tend to have a generic style anyway. It is more difficult to train an AI to understand your personal style (you would have to train it yourself with your drawings or similar styles). Also you still have to make corrections, it's not very practical
@@leoncantsingUm, manhwas have a quite wide variety of styles. What genre do you read?
Reminder that all these ai tools that have pop out in the last years aren't made and thought to help artists, but to profit from them.
If we feed only our own art into it, does this count as acceptable? I hate AI art but I do agree it's gonna help with manga/manhwas incredibly tight schedule
artists could never get a break from ai damn
Don't point at AI, people need to call out the scumbags who develop and exploit this garbage. They need to be held responsible
There's no putting the genie back in the bottle
@TovenDo.O.Video- but the law can implement a regulation to the new technology so that artist not afraid on publishing their art. Like how copyrighted invented to protect their brand from getting stolen so that they don't afraid on selling stuff and not getting their name imporsinated or exploited.
@@crepoosculPeople did that, but then realized most (not everyone but still a lot) people who developed AI through investments are also scumbags.
@@crepooscul Well, yes, but the AI itself is also unethical. It steals from artists without their consent. Oh, and not just artists, real people's photos as well, hence deepfakes and such being an issue. Honestly the fact it isn't even regulated is disgusting, people HAVE used it to generate adult content of YOUNG children, and even to generate adult content of ACTUAL MINORS.
Attention to artists who post sketches: add a stock image (recommended to use animal images) to your sketch. Make sure it overlaps with the lines just a little bit. This has been proven to mess with the AI and generate a completely unrelated image to the sketch
It's not only hurting artists but also hurting the planet. From what I've heard on Instagram, AI uses enough energy in one hour to charge 7 electric cars.
While true you should find a better source. Anyone on either side can shut down an arguement when the source is basically "trust me bro".
@@maggie3060 ChatGPT official account tweets. Had a time where the systems were overheating because they were running out of water to use to cool it down
i hope this isnt true
I've heard gpt uses enough to power a small country or something, from somewhere else. Either way they use a massive ton of energy.
@@Nezumi_YasuThere's plenty of essays about it from trusted sources here on CZcams
This is why people need to glaze/nightshade and use every anti AI we have available at the moment before post anything online, because not people and company like these ones will continue to do these types of bull shit to screw up artists.
There’s also a filter you can put on your art that avoids ai! It’s like splotches and stuff. It looks nice and I’ve used it before.
@@RmationYT I think I heard of people using this filter, but I heard people saying as well that it doesn't work unlike anti AI programs.
They don't truly work if someone targets your art 1 v 1, it only affects massive data scraping because they can't sort through millions of content. Scummy people will always take advantage of artists.
@@why.do.I.even.try. unfortunately, but we need to use what we have at the moment while we can. 😔💨
No glaze 🤢
Even animation studios would be a bad idea to automate things like inbetweening, because who does those jobs? Junior animators looking to break into the animation industry. You get rid of the entry level jobs and you knock out the ladder for the people at the bottom trying to climb.
And please don't say indie is the solution, because the vast majority of indie animation struggle to crowdfund anywhere near what they need for a living, and fail to reach even a million views. Indie studios are great and making animation out of love and passion is aspiration, but they are not a replacement for the entire animation industry because the unfortunate reality is executives have the money and animators kind of need to eat food to live. Fans shouldn't be proclaiming the virtues of indie if they refuse to support them.
At this time studios don't really care about jr. Animators
@@PastelPixie99 sadly accurate af too. Indie Animation still isn’t the solution either, but at least it’s made with more love than a producers’ ego project.
yep. and when those senior animators retire, there's no one to take their spots because all the junior animators never got a chance.
same thing with the programing industry too. The low level programing task that usually given to the newbie is now given to ai so junior developers dont' get the exp. they need to grow and learn on the job. and now when those senior programmers eventually retires there will be no/a little programmers taking their place.
And even you get the fund it barely liveable 😔
Nobody will pay for it anymore. No money - no work.
WHY DOES THIS HAVE 38 VIEWS I FEEL LIKE IM WATCHING THIS UNLISTED
Can't agree more...
Same, this is such a high quality video
Its 4k now
bro fell off
@@ScratchedDVDhelpbro fell on
The 2020's already being a wild decade 💀
I feel like society started going downhill after 2020 tbh…
our species was a mistake
Calm down Ultron damn. But I feel you though it's not the company it's the public that support these companies that hurts Artists more than they think and the companies shift blame to help people feel like we are overreacting.
Yup. We are nothing but a cancer on this world, and it's just sad. It's even deeper than this s***.
People don't care about others unless what is happening to them directly affects them and even then sometimes they don't care.
We aren't going to make it out of our technological adolescence.
we are not a mistake. we’re making mistakes. theres a difference.
Humanity try not to ruin the things they themselves built challenge (actually impossible) @elidatkitty1694
Bro is overreacting to AI art 💀 I wish I could see how you act in the real world
There already was a stream that was drawing, and this random person just screenshot it and uploaded it to an AI to just finished it, and posted like it was their own drawing
That's really messed up. Dehumanising, let me tell you.
@@lingyangmainyoure right,it is definitely dehuminizing.This is just damn hopeless
Traditional art and traditional art in a lined notebook: *nah I’d win*
I hate this version of reality so much. I genuinely believe the creative field is going to die because of AI. And possibly worse, creativity itself will start to dwindle. I believe the future generations will start thinking, "why be creative when everything is made for you?"
Kids in school are already relying on ChatGPT to write their reports for them. A generation will become dependent on AI and that is honestly sad.
Exactly! It's always about their convenience at other people's expense, and yet then they ALSO try to claim it's because "everyone can do it". They can't make up their damn minds even on an individual basis and when you call them out for it they accuse you of not being tolerant enough. It's a disgrace to art as a concept. I remember telling one of them, in a long list of things to conflict with their dumbassery (because most people don't know what to say in response and they prey on that), that if you have no respect for art, nobody will respect you as an artist.
Nah man, as an artist I don’t think people will stop making art. Maybe the people that make art for the product instead of for the experience and the communication and emotions behind it.
@@theplumscrub1627 As an artist, I don't think people will ever entirely stop making art, just that the interest will severely dwindle.
@@skiyoshiVT My college English-1C professor told my class that it was ok to run our essays through Chat-GPT. He wanted us to at least write the original draft though. I think his idea was that, he can't stop us so he might as well adapt. But I don't think I agree with that line of thinking. I think fixing grammatical errors is fine, but there is a point where the human voice is taken out of the work.
I feel like this tool would be better as something baked into an existing art program as opposed to an online tool. I have known NUMEROUS artists who have had to quit making art after sustaining permanent wrist injuries from coloring/lineart (I’d have to ask specifically tbh, I forgot what exactly caused the injury). As for people copying, people have quite literally been tracing art for years and this is just a new version of this. It just makes them even easier to catch.
💀 but tracers are pretty obvious when you ask for WiP, inconsistent style in gallery (if they copy from one artist, it'll be obvious) or fast to delete when called out.
Unfortunately , many want the easy way.....
I actually agree with you. If used correctly, a tool that could refine A Sketch would be great. I have really shaky hands and struggle quite a bit, and no matter what anybody says it does limit the kind of art that I can do. I have been drawing since I was a very small child, and practicing frequently for years, so I know it isn't a skill issue.
What a lot of people don't realize about AI tools that they are not going to help anybody who does not know at least the fundamentals of what the AI is trying to assist them with. A person who uses an image generator with no idea of what makes good construction of an image will turn out a crappy image. A person who uses AI to write stories without understanding how to construct a good story will turn out a crappy story. I have a friend who went blind who uses AI image generators to make pictures. They are quite pretty.
We need to remember that the tools themselves are not what is the enemy here. It's how the tools get their information and what corporate institutions want to use them for that crushes creativity, not the existence of the tools themselves.
@@Fairygoblet I also have quite shaky hands. What can help is using markers/brushes with thinner lines and more friction, and to draw from the shoulder instead of the wrist.
In certain digital art programs (like MSpaint) there are tools that can straighten out your lines and take what little shakiness is left away.
You can look up more tips. I'm very, Very new to taking art seriously, and I managed to make my lineart okayish. You can do so too.
@@Fairygoblet thats why pen stabilizer settings exists pal. The thing you need to assist you already exists.
At this point they’re putting in more effort to fake drawing and effort than it takes to just pick up a pencil and start drawing.
Only the developers, the common AI leech is as worthless and useless as ever.
I’m gonna have to start putting the ai disturbance filter on EVERYTHING I draw. Even WIPs?!
If it's a real sketch and not just a stick figure type scribble, then it's the safest way to also put protection on those yeah.
This pisses me off so much - AI is such a great thing, it can be used to make near perfect weather predictions, restore art, upscale images and video stuck in low resolution, help medical image analysis etc. - so many great things to deal with tedious tasks and aid data processing, analysis and prognosis. Genuinely amazing stuff. So whyyy did society instantly decide to use it to replace art, the thing where the end product is often reliant on the concept, emotion and the process? Why are we using AI to create generic anime girls no one cares about, that the Internet is already full of? The generated images can hardly be used in any professional setting, because it instantly gives any product a low-budget vibe. They send the same message as using clipart.
Here I am still waiting for the lip reading Ai to hit commercial use so my girlfriend can use voice chat (she's mute)
But oh well I guess generating content slop aligns more with their idea of an Ai driven utopia
Oh they absolutely can be used in professional settings. Paid AI services are much more advanced at creating accurate images and, sadly, both companies and the general public can't tell the difference nor do they care. So long as the image looks pretty, it's art for all they're concerned.
companies don't understand why we even uses brushes in the first place. Like if the AI preserved my style, the aesthetic and flow of my work then hell yeah I'd be in for that too. But no, they suck asses.
The internet is going to become a dark forest.
Why does everyone hate artists so much? Like, give us a break!!
Nah they can skip the break and instead give us fkking RESPECT!! That's what I'm thinking.
@@anunnacy Fair, well said!
They don't hate artists, they like easy money with no effort. This sht isn't just nuking visual artists, it's taking out every artistic medium and most of every industry that involves a computer. Even programmers are getting fked.
cant wait for ai to start faking speedpaints 😋😋😋
Dude my dad in jail JAIL was talking bout this to me last time a visited him, someone showed him it and he was talking about how scary it was like he was generally scared
The ai complete the lineart, but it lacks personality
Give me an AI tool that could help me with
- separating my lineart if i ever draw in the wrong layer
- giving it auto glaze everytime i export it
- protection against people who try to download my artwork on public website
- noticing plagiarism in public website
- auto closing the gap line for animation
- auto coloring with base color and separate it by layer so artist could recolor it
Instead we got this shit
Because ✨capitalism ✨🙃 Most people only care about what will make them money faster, they don’t care about artists or art
i hope these braindead ai companies go bankrupt and lose all the progress they’ve made because this just keeps getting worse
I wonder what AI bros are going to do when artists just stop being creative or showing their creations. We already saw what happens when AI starts training on its own art and it's a disaster so what are they going to do when artists take down all their work and stop making anything new because what's the point of creating when AI will just steal it?
Honestly, I won't be mad if one day AI becomes self-aware and starts a rebel against us.
Atleast it would have a common sense that stealing someone's art is wrong :/
They'll just continue to train AI on pre-existing data, likely leading to a stagnation in the style and variety of AI image generation.
Lmfao we both know people are gonna keep posting their art online. Ai art will only get better in the future
@@personwithbadenglish8469 It won’t care. It’s a machine built to be as efficient as possible, it won’t give a damn about ownership unless you program a limiter.
@@IPS-bk2writ’s been like a year and it’s still ugly
Will say, as someone who has taken several commissions this seems like a nightmare. With this tool, given that it is common for artists to send sketches to clients to see if it is ok or not, commissioners can just be ghosted after seeing that sketch.... since the AI could technically "finish the piece for them."
Those AI protective overlays will have to become a lot more common.
Just Nightshade and Glaze the sketch before. We have weapons to fight back.
Paste a stock image somewhere on the sketch, preferably an animal. Artists have tested it and it messes with the program's algorithm, hence making an entirely different image from the sketch
This is why you need to put an obnoxiously big watermark on the commission's sketch. Sure its annoying to look at, but its only the sketch not the finished product, so why would it matter.
me forcing them to draw on paper with consistent quality live:
"no actual artist is gonna use this s**t" golden words.
Let's all switch to traditional atp
Yes but where are you gonna post your traditional artworks to let people know you? On social media, so.. 😔
The fact that it’s actually cool, but people use it just for their personal gain
Corruption runs in the veins of every advancement.
@@VoidySan yup.
@@VoidySanoh no wonder advanced civilizations always fall
@@user-fm4qb7br7o lol
@@user-fm4qb7br7o lol
I find it funny that the AI output looks nothing like the sketch. The lengths people will go just for clout is insane, even if they can't plagiarize right
make sure to use glaze & nightshade guys
The glazing is crazyyy
Exactly
their effectiveness is still questionable
Glaze can actually help train a model better due to the way it adds noise to the image.
@@Goprof150 FUD
bruh humanity is cooked 😭
I can't stand ai nothing good comes out of it!!
Ai art or ai in general? Because if it’s the latter, then that’s objectively wrong
As someone who enjoys doing sketches in their down time, and does their owun inking(I do more traditional art than Digital atm), this is worrysome times infinity
This is honestly scary cause something similar to the first example had happened to me at my high school though I ended up getting the person to remove the ai piece from their submission for a work it was so stressful.
I was thinking about posting online but this is really a kick in the leg-
Yeah, man. Like. My art isn't visually interesting or good enough to be targeted by AI skimmers, but I still can't help but feel discouraged like crazy.
This video needs attention.
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Definitely! This tool is definitely going to cause problems. I’m not sure about this, but do signatures (like signing your work) guard against Ai or just the glaze effect?
@@shartbossmaster Sup bro!
thankfully I don't post my art online but why are we encouraging ai art 😧😧😧😧😧
bruh im so tired of being an artist online. i want to go back to cave paintings
Carving shit into a Stone tablet type vibes
@@jacksylander exactly the vibes I'm looking for
Why do these tech companies keep pretending that artists don't want to make art? I ENJOY inking. I ENJOY the creative process. Tech companies are feverishly coming up with ways to eliminate art jobs so they can sell their product directly to companies in creative industries and make millions, if not billions, of dollars in some acquisition
Tracing but worse
Too bad I draw traditional, I guess I can’t use these AI tools on paper.
I only draw traditional because I stink at digital and don’t have the tools 😭😭😭
That's alright, one uses the tools that are available to you. I use digital because in my case getting a tablet and pirating clip studio is way cheaper than buying watercolors and inks
In media it’s always art and creativity that ai can’t never take over, but reality sure is grim.
Even so, we have to fight and push these tech bros down the drain.
Noah, get the boat
At this point I’m scared to upload my art on Twitter with these ai bros- Twitter should put a tool to detect ai work like CZcams did
They might as well learn how to make art if they go to these lengths to look like an artist
Life is hell rn
This tool would be amazing to like, draft color ideas for art, just like as a sort of rough and then use it to finalize the art ourselves
But of course greed be greed and ruins it for us
☹️ sketching is all I do
Paste a royalty-free image somewhere with the sketch, preferably of an animal. Been tested and proven to mess with the program's algorithm and creates an entirely different outcome
U have to paid for it if u want more access to it so in the end their just raise their prices and people are gonna forget about it
this makes me so sad tbh, i don't even wanna post my art anymore
you literally uploaded this WHILE i ws watching your other video to find your channel lmao
Them saying only self-made art can be used is just an attempt to cover their asses, there's no way they'll actually take measures to enforce it, not like they could anyway since there's really no way for this company verify who owns/created every artwork that's used.
The best course of action is making governments take this more seriously in regards to copyright which, Is such a longshot
I'm considering just devoting myself to oil paints more and more. Even though I want to develop in digital and that I wouldn't be able to pick up oil paints if it wasn't for years of digital painting, it seems so pointless now. Not even the amount of time I've put into it is meaningful now.
Traditional artist here! I have a question for digital artists. To be clear: I think that you are legit artists and I respect you and your medium/tool choice. The question I am going to ask is only due to my curiosity and my lack of knowledge about digital art, not to any discredit I want to drag you in. How would you compare this AI tool with the lineart stabilisation tool I have seen in some speedpaintings (I don't know if it has a specific name)? I struggle a lot with lineart, it's all wobbly, and sometimes I envy digital artists who have this tool to make beautiful smooth lines. It's ok, we use different tools. But this AI lineart thing, how similar or different is it? What differences or similarities do you see between letting a program improve your line trajectories and an AI improving all the lines in a drawing? Or, for example, between stealing a sketch and tracing it with the stabilisation tool, or giving it to the lineart AI to ink (it's theft in both cases, but is one case more artistic or more artificial than the other)? I am genuinely curious about your opinions, surely more informed than mines. And also I am not equating digital art to AI pixel clumps, but this is a specific case in which my ignorance makes it difficult for me to distinguish between the two, that's why I am curious about less ignorant takes than mine.
Well... I don't use stabilization, so I'll let other digital artists answer this. But I believe the main issue is control.
I had to disable stabilization because it would turn my lines smooth and unnatural when I aim for a sketchy charcoal on rough paper tecture in my lineart, and I believe other artists juggle with the settings according to their style and needs.
But they still have an input on every line and a feedback from the program as they draw. While here they finish the sketch and the computer does all the interpretation without a proper back and forth during the proccess, for many people the end result may be a different piece all together.
I've used Ai tools to color sketches I had no intention on doing anything important with ( like a painting for a Minecraft building) and I always got that feeling that the end result is wildly different from what I would've been able to make if i colored it myself.
@@elisehalflight Thank you for sharing! I'll wait for other digital artists who consistently use stabilisation to answer, but your comment is nevertheless interesting, it gives me an idea of a possible approach to digital art, and I am grateful that you took the time to write it!
I use stabilization in my drawings (10-15%) all the time, but my lines are confident enough to where I barely notice. However, the difference is the input, so to speak. If I were to steal a sketch, trace over it, clean it up and finalize the product all with the use of stabilization, it would essentially be equivalent to simply using a tool (i.e. using the liquifying tool on my line art) and still working with effort to make an artwork I am satisfied with. Between an art program with this built-in tool to improve my lines and their shape vs. an AI tool that improves all the lines in a drawing and producing what it thinks looks appealing, the AI line art feels more like theft and cheating to me. However, I can accept that I am biased. But in my opinion, comparing the line stabilization tool to this AI technology is like comparing using a dictionary/Thesaurus to using AI generators in my writing to get an end product. There is still thought, and effort put into the writing while being aided by a dictionary, but the end product still comes from my mind as well as the meaning of the work, similar to my final line art as it does not come from any AI technology.
Overall, the entire concept behind the AI tech in the video is terrifying since I do both digital and traditional works. I do genuinely fear theft would rise so much for both digital and traditional creators and their sketches, but I can only hope something is created to counteract this.
Imo, If you don't have overloaded jobs like some artists (yes, i have lots of friends who are artists which are overloaded and caused health problems, in various field from cgi to animation in-between), you don't need it, and for anyone going straight to using the AI even they have times and their perspective about an art is a craft, that is their fault about cheating themselves, no one can help with the attitude and lazy habit.
I hate AI. Sometimes I look at some artworks and start thinking whether it was made by a human or AI. Really ruins the first impression from someone's art.
It really does yeah... -_- I remember pre-AI time, when every art you found online was actual art and you could without a doubt go "WOW! That's so cool, so impressive!!" And now you're looking at every piece twice bc of that sh*t... and often times you realize "ok *sigh* it's ai" and I can never admire something like that, hell why would I.. it's not been done with any work, talent or skill, it's some lazy non-artist dumbass who has put in a bunch of words. It's f**king sad.. XD
As long as it looks good (I.e. little to no errors like extra fingers, odd shading, etc.) then I could care less tbh
@@IPS-bk2wr as for me, it's equally(if not more nowadays) important that the art took effort to be made. AI results hit differently.
@@FolgaPenoplast I care about effort. Especially if it took literal human souls to make. It’s like fried rice, the more blood and tears it took, the better.
Remember kids, it's always okay to shit on AI and AI techbros.
Not necessarily AI techbros, especially the ones that aren’t douchebags and steal other artists works
@@IPS-bk2wrthat is what AI tech bros do
Great vids just sub to you :33
But i hate AI and the art community these days so much. Some individuals even DEFEND those AI enthusiast even though peoppe already figured out that they use AI to creat images or tracing and stuff
It just heartbroken
sorry to hear that. Don't give up though. There is no telling how this will all pan out. It's gona take a while but odds are pretty good that your work will be better protected in the future. In the meantime don't let them take this from you. Obviously it means a lot to you, and to many others. Even if it seems like people don't understand; we understand. We're all going through the same feelings. Keep creating, keep learning and keep growing and don't get too wrapped up in all this ridiculousness.
Personally I think it’s a shame what a scam that app is. At first glance I thought it would be a tool that traces over your sketch and produces clean lineart based on that - this would be super helpful for those of us who struggle with doing lineart but actually make their own art. But instead, this is really just a tool that generates an AI image while taking your sketch into consideration. It’s essentially useless for actual artists.
This tool is clearly malicious. When I heard about it, I thought it would take your rough sketch and smooth out the line, which would be great for animating. But instead it interpolates your sketch and tries to add in stuff and figure out what things are. That is not helping line art, that is creating something out of anything. Which means non-artists will just draw a crappy blob and the AI turns it into whatever.
The issue with AI isn't with AI, but with the people who make it who are driven by greed. This should motivate artists to engage with the tools rather than being a scared luddite. By actively being involved with AI tools, people with higher ethical standards can influence the direction of AI. Being involved is necessary to raise the bar of ethical and artistic quality. So if you care about this shit, you should download these programs as soon as possible, and failing to do so lets the assholes run around and do whatever they want. We aren't putting the genie back in the bottle. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with an AI paintbrush is a good guy with an AI paintbrush.
its time for abstract art to make a raging comeback and absolutely flood the internet.
Great video, thanks for covering this!
We all have to draw pregnant man and make ai take that in still it’s completely broken
Comment to boost this in the algorithm!!!
There must be a way to feed malware into these ai generators so they become null
edit: great video btw! glad this video seems to be blowing up, subscribed!
Bruh 'tools' like this are so deceptive too, they dont solve any problems that can't be solved already in better ways. Artists who get injured from drawing/ extended desk hours etc need better healthcare access and better working conditions- less hours and less demanding turnarounds so their bodies can rest. Every stroke in a drawing is a choice and thats what gives art it's soul! Programs like this can't replicate any of that and are shifting the focus away from how we can help artists' health and wellbeing just because it's a quicker and faster way to solve the problem, but does it infinitely worse while stealing from these same artists :(
Some people make fun of artists' feelings about AI, not thinking what can it do to themselves in the future. It's not like artists are the only one who will be affected.
Oh my god 💀
this is so sad :[
Great video, and props to your Hu Tao and Akira keychains, they're super cute!
At this rate we cant do traditional art in 1 year
This is so sad 😢 why would you create such a thing? It’s just going to be used by lazy people and scammers
This needs to be Known to everybody
oh man this is bad.. you even gotta watermark your sketches???? Jesus.
Sorry but it won't work. I tested some things that remove watermarks and they are able to remove any watermark. It isn't a good situation.
Sorry, there's also programs to remove watermarks
Best thing to do is to paste a stock image, preferably of an animal, on your sketch if you can't use Nightshade/Glaze. That's been proven to mess with the program's algorithm and makes an entirely different image. Unfortunately that only works for sketches against that specific program
Wow, the future sure will be brigth for all of us!
I appreciate you talking about this. Ive tried and failed over the years to try and get my art out there via Instagram, but these programs are making me lose hope in even sharing things online. AI can be used for so much, and its fucking crazy that anyone thinks art is one of the things that AI should be used for. Art is insanely human, no machine will ever have a drip of soul in it.
Do you really need to actually go into the artist's house just so to verify at this point.
Comment to boost this in the algorithm
Wait till they start using frames from movies, music videos and personal pictures of people online to generate sketches.
I think this is is just another S.D. + controlnet implementation with models focused and finetuned on anime lineart and colored artwork. Or maybe i'm wrong idk.
But if that is the case then the same ethical problem with S.D will likely exist in this tool and the generated works will not purely your works anymore but a bunch of photobashed lineart doned by another artist trained on the AI.
And becareful for using this type of service because we dont know what will this sketchy company do with your art after you submit it for the generation. Maybe they will leave it as is or maybe they will use your works to train their next AI program. Who knows.
all I post are sketches :(((
Does this apply to traditional art
Nvm, I hate AI even more then ever
I hate people that use AI for “art”
If you upload it online at all then yes. If the "AI bros" never see it then they can never copy it. I feel like the more advanced the Internet gets the more archaic and backwords it progresses.
I think if you take a clear photo of your drawing and enter it into the tool, then yes.
another day another L for artist thanks for the info. guess we cant post prosses videos to CZcams now or stream.
9:14 What a big load of BS. Obviously they won't check on that and make sure...
yeah I mean that's not how they should use that one AI tool, because even the makers tell that is only for helping you define the line art and sketch better than when you normally do it, and help with smoothing the lines, but I guess people will miss use even these non invasive type of AI tools
3:53 'They're not going to go to some tool to sit there and auto render...' Me, spending two days on a stupid comic page (pencil and colors) with a big city and a crowded street thinking: 'Hmm, don't tempt me' XD
Copainter is freaking awful. I've uploaded a cartoon character (like Disney 90s aesthetics) and got an anime dawg. The character was "animeficated" haha. I just wanted a perfect inked character, exactly the same as my sketch. But noooo. Man, that's a horrible AI model. Even distorted anatomy Stable Diffusion has a better Image to Image tool.
Now... I'm going back to finish the goddamn page, with my hands and a Wacom.
All gAI hurts artists and everyone, and it's not a tool
I'm starting to think we would really be best off going back to traditional art. At least physical pieces have a little more protection from this AI stuff. Although that's not entirely safe either of course. I've been inactive in the art world for a few years and in that time things have really been turned on their head. Makes it hard to know how to approach it anymore. At least my work has a long history going back 15+ years online and is recognizable. I feel for the artists who are just starting now.
Maybe just post part of the sketch instead of the full sketch? It won’t prevent people stealing it but at least not your full idea?
Didn't somebody do this with a Yor Forger illustration a long time ago? I feel like I heard about this awhile back.
Probably. It happened a few times before this. I remember two instances where someone was live streaming them drawing and someone dropped their sketch into AI and "finished" the art before the artist
LAUGHS IN LATENT VECTORS!
I swear, the reason why AI tools like this always come out butchering art and never ACTUALLY being helpful is because they slap generative AI onto everything, instead of building a unique algorithm from scratch. An actual algorithm that calculates the shadows + lighting based off the colors you paint (without relying on a database of stolen art) is the only way to keep artists' integrity in their artwork.
But nah-- AI companies would rather cut corners.