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I absolutely love videos like this that get fresh perspectives. The idea of Cassidy being Charlie's brother and game Sammy makes so much sense, I hope you tug on that string and see where else it can lead.
The thematic differences between Charlie and Cassidy in the game would be so much cooler if they were twins.
On a personal level I have very different interpretations of midnight motorist and Williams motivations, but that doesn't mean your theory doesn't have merit just because I prefer a different take on the story. However I do think you should address why Henry only mentions his daughter in his speech in pizzeria simulator. If he knows his son is still out there, why would he allow himself to die? Assuming that the old man consequences Easter egg in ultimate custom night is Henry speaking to Cassidy, how would interpretations of that scene change if they are father and son? And if there is a discrepancy there that can't be reconciled does that open up better evidence for other characters being OMC or the Fredbear character?
Anyway, instant subbed. Can't wait for more
I'm planning Questions answered video soon so I think I'll address some of these in that! Thanks for the sub and support.
*YO WHAT? bro my WHOLE TIME of watching people talk about fnaf not ONE PERSON EVER SAID anything about Henry having multiple kids and I'm actually mind blown because HOW did no one ever think "hm maybe these other kids play a role"*
Golden Freddy always being shown in the games as an astral projection, instead of a physical object (only shown as an "solid" physical object in UCN) hit me as a critical detail. Even in the first game; Golden Freddy functioned as a "true ghost" haunting the environment, while the other four were real objects under the possession of spirits. Two additional things, I think, from newer titles might shine more light on Golden Freddy and Cassidy; In FNAF AR there was a Golden Freddy that was "circus themed" by making it wrapped in chains and submerged in water. In curse of Dread Bear (Help Wanted 1 DLC) the yellow-bear Dread Bear emerges from the pond in the main hub menu walking in an "undead" or "zombie" fashion. In FNAF World, as a freddy pixel character you must drown yourself in a pond... I seriously wonder if everything points to Golden Freddy / Cassidy being physically trapped somewhere on the property (the farm-lot that seems to have the Afton house, Fall Fest, the Bunker, Fredbear's and then later the Pizzaplex) underwater.
@3:00 "Uhm, there has been a slight change of company policy, concerning you and the suits. Uhm, so. After learning of an unfortunate incident at the sister location involving multiple and simultaneous spring lock failures, the company has deemed the suits temporaily unfit for employees" [FNAF 3 - night 3].
Therefore would the early spring-lock failure involving Cassidy you have suggested be this event?
Phone Guy knew what William did and just changed company policy?
It's hard to place that call on a timeline but I'd more likely say that was William getting springlocked.
Especially since it's FNAF3, Williams our antagonist and Scott had only really planned for 3 games loosely at that stage.
@@FlyGlint5 It may not be too difficult. The change of policy would affect restaurant staff, not security guards. The suits were worn to entertain the customers.
In follow me there was raining falling from the ceiling, building maintenance was ignored. So no customers. Then by The Silver Eyes a shopping centre was built over it.
Therefore the policy change happened before the closure in 1987. Therefore William was springlocked early in the timeline?
@@FlyGlint5 maybe it could be william being springlocked but phone guy says it happened at a sister location/other restaurant from the one he's in (the mci freddy's/follow me freddy's) so idk if it could be william
there has to have been another springlock failure early in the timeline when phone guy recorded those tapes and it couldve been cassidy as this theory could suggest but personally i think it was just a fredbears employee. the employee's death/remains also could have been what the crying child saw to make him fear the suits, because if he saw his father kill charlotte out of costume that would make him afraid of his father which isnt the case. he also couldnt have seen the mci because i believe four of the mci victims are the children in fnaf 4's minigames meaning they were still alive. so i think an early springlock incident is very likely
The main thing I'm stuck on is what is Williams motive because a man who spent his entire life making Children's Entertainment doesn't all of a sudden shift to a serial killer randomly there has to be a reason
Me as well, that's why I'm leaning towards accidental.
Quite frankly William has always been unstable. In the novels, he is depicted as obsessive well before Elizabeth's death. While some people believe that the bite of 83 pushed him to insanity, given in both novel and movie continuity the bite didn't happen, that is unlikely.
I love the possibility of Cassidy being Henry's child. Amazing video, man! You got a sub
Thanks very much!
Honestly other than the Sammy of the games universe, being the one who restarted Fazbear Entertainment I believe this theory too, that Cassidy is essentially the games version of Sammy.
Easily could be!
It explains why it would be a "wound first inflicted" on Henry.
Interesting vid, right now the early pre Fredbear's Family Diner is definitely quite nebulous but it also feels like very soon the series is going to be exploring it and I'm pumped for that.
I hope so... but Scott might just leave it vague hahaha
So when do events take place in terms of year in this timeline? That seems to be the biggest point of contention to this theory I can think of. Most people place the MCI in 1985, but that would be after 1983, which seems to be the year that the Crying Child dies, and also most likely after Charlie dies, which most people place in either 82 or 83.
If you can work out the specific dates for events then you would have one of the most solid timelines to date, you have a very refreshing idea I'd love to see explored more.
The dates are actually totally ambiguous in every timeline, so using them as a base is incredibly dicey.
However, alot of people put the MCI in 1985 die to TSE. But the MCI in TSE actually takes place many years prior to the events so that's out.
Bite of 83 is the most concrete we have, so you have to take that and work backwards.
Honestly, I say that most of these events happen DURING 1983 (Bite of 83, FF Fire and MCI).
This is so well done in terms of what you did with Fall Fest and connecting it with the dirt pile in Midnight Motorist. I never thought of Cassidy being Henry's other child, but it makes a lot of sense. Great stuff!
Thank you! It makes sense to me! 😁
bro solves the fnaf lore in one video meanwhile matpat destroys his sanity
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The only loophole that strikes me is that Fallfest is presumably in fall and the MCI is in Summer. So it doesn't makes sense that Fallfest, MCI, then the Bite of 83 would happen out of season order. Fix that tidbit and I would love to hear more
Good pickup there.
The only thing I can lean into is checking the evidence for the MCI in summer. In my timeline, GF, MCI, Charlie and CC all take place within a few months.
I agree it all happening very quickly. I got the summer date from the articles in fnaf 1 stating the yellow suit was caught luring kids by camera in June. I am going off memory at the moment, so feel free to double check me
Curious, wonder when elizabeth died, and if cassidy died as a result of it like charly might've died as a result of crying child died. Manipulating henry 2 times to bring back 2 kids. But this could possibly mean henry didnt know his other kid was still around which is weird. The crying child being afraid of spring bonnie would explain something that seemed like an side thing, plush trap. If the crying child was afraid of bonnie all william would need to torment him would be a plush bonnie and maybe some nightmare gas, this way Mike and CC are nightmare victims and it explains the seperate rooms on the map
I'm interested in what you make of "later that night" in reference to MM in your timeline.
Right now I'm following IDs Fantasy logic that "later that night" is just after William has killed Charlie.
I’d like to offer two things
First something to support your argument: the FNAF world drowning ending shows two kids in the arms of a man (possibly in front of a screen). It is not definitive by any means, in fact some believe it is supposed to be Scott and his two real life kids who are supposedly very good at finding glitches and secrets. That being said I think comparing Scott to Henry is completely fair game.
However there are two pieces of pretty damning evidence. The first is the newspapers in FNAF 1. They explicitly say 5 children were linked to the MCI and lured into a back room.
The second is the question of Cassidy’s gender. I do believe there is plenty of evidence to support that Cassidy is a boy. The image of Cassidy, the stitchwraith story, golden Freddy’s gender, but I think it is overlooking two very important things. First the name Cassidy, which is commonly a girl’s name. Second, more damning, the fact that it is Princess Quest. Cassidy is presumably the Princess and being the most recent evidence, I have to side with that. You can certainly still argue that the silver eyes canonicity is separate, and considering Sammy is not really even in it he just changed the name, but to me it seems a bit like a far fetched overcomplication, especially considering the Silver Eyes and the survival logbook (where we got Cassidy’s name) only came out two years apart. It wasn’t like some big oversight or gap that needed to be filled because he didn’t know the concept would be expanded on.
I really want to believe this timeline, especially with how well it fits the princess quest grave thing, but I just don’t know.
Alot of my theories take "themes" from the books, as opposed to direct translations. So things like gender and names I tend to ignore somewhat.
I made a Short also saying how if Cassidy is the princess and Henry is speculated to be OMC / King... that would make them father and child once again. Interesting... haha
@@FlyGlint5 do you have any work around for the FNAF 1 newspapers?
after a lot of thinking , watching almost every theory about it,there channel fnaf theorist(CathuresLabs) i feels it come the closet, what is exactly its going on with william in fnaf
1-one thing big point of it, is that william afton agony is kinda alive and its corrupting everything around of it,fnaf 3 is about cassidy torment william, but this doesn't work at all, because his own mind its pure agony, there nothing cassidy could do to william, in the end is william is the gives intructions for happiest day, glitch bonnie we see in minigames of fnaf 3 that gives cake for the kids, and trying to hide from the puppet view, why he giving cakes and setting a party for the ghost kids?
2-its simply he trying to make them follow him again into his madness, these kids are trapped and can't rest it, there nothing for them after killing william afton, but they are unable move on, the only avaliable person that can give any puporse for them is william, i mean henry literally ran away for decades letting the ghost kids trapped there by themself with william afton all that time, when henry return to end the tragedy and free all the kids souls, its likely only one ghost kid is actually willling folowing william afton, is the same one resposible for trapping the others
3-there a question who actually Freadbear,Nightmare,Nightmarionne?, i am feel everything is going to tie up into a one answer eventually
I like some of what you say, the agony manifests is different ways though and i think William is more of a catalyst for the events as opposed to a direct driving force.
Honestly, i love your timeline it makes somuch sence
Thanks so much! I'm trying to upload more so stay tuned. 😀
So, I agree that Cassidy, be them a boy or a girl is irrelevant, was the first victim, but it makes no sense for me that she was springlocked. Like, what is Williams motivation? There is none.
I think he was on his drive home from his shift at freddys, took a stop at J.R.'s and then drove Cassidy over. Having to choose between taking Cassidy to the ER and facing the CONSEQUENCES of his actions, he grabs the shovel from the trunk of his car and beats them until they look like they were springlocked. He drives back to Fredbears, which is closed at this time and puts Cassidy into Fredbear.
Fredbear starts acting weird so Henry takes him to Parts and Services, as usual, CC is there with him, and the mangled body drops out of Fredbears stomach. This is the wound inflicted on Henry because he thinks his creation did this, prompting him to create the security puppet, and the thing CC sees in the shadows that makes him so scared of Fredbear, also explains the stomache teeth on nightmare.
Perfect moment for William to swoop in and play the hero and get rid of the body. He burys it near his hime where nobody will ever find it.
Fredbear is still behaving weirdly, especially when William is around, which leads to him finding out about ghost, remnant and all of this stuff. I think at this point he started working on the ideo of the Funtimes and his own Chain of "Chicas Party World" however...
Cassidy takes her revenge on William by lethaly wounding CC and taking his spirit into Fredbear after he dies in the hospital. At this point Cassidy is in controll of the endo, and CC attaches to the suit.
With all he knows, William builds Funtime Freddy at his workshop to recreate the whole thing. If you look at the schematics of Funtime Freddy, you can see that there is a children body inside of Funtime Freddy, but nothing to grab and drag them in, like Baby has. Is the Kid supposed to climb in by itself? No, it was always Williams plan to but his sons corpse into FF.
However, CC's soul is attached to the Fredbear Suit, so FF could not be possessed, by him, right? Kinda, I think, much like in the books, William poured all his agony over the loss of his son into the animatronic and probably the corpse, too. So FF came to life, but in a twisted way, and not for long. He needs more energy and the best way to get that is to melt down the Fredbear Endo and inject it into FF to power him up for a while.
Thats why there is only the empty suit in the games and the Endo is never seen anywhere.
After that, William startes working on Baby, in my headcanon ist because Funtime Freddy tells him to, because he wants a playmate. I mean if you're stuck in a metal body for eternity, thats the least William could do for his son, right?
Sadly, Baby kills Elizabeth instead of a random Kid like William planned and he snaps.
Enraged and drunk he drives to Fredbears and kills Charlie by pure accident, because she just happens to be outside.
Now, after both of his children are robots and in need of Remnant to keep running, the MCI happens. He kills the children just to melt down the endos to keep his children "alive"
But thats just a theory.
I'm leaning towards Cassidys death being kind of an accident and William hiding the body maybe. Not sure.
@@FlyGlint5 I mean she could have climbed into freddy herself, kids are curious after all.
This is a really interesting theory. One problem for me though is if I was Henry and one of my kids died, i would not be leaving the other one unattended. I know he made the security puppet, but thats not enough. He would not be letting Charlie out of his sight
In my head canon, Henry soundness find out William did it until he discovers the sister location data and press it all together. Until then he thinks cassidy was lost in the fire.
This is a phenomenal theory.
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
Alright this is a great theory but it has massive flaws, the guy in the fredbear suit is henry emily, william had no motivation to kill, the grave is also known as the crying childs body
Yes Henry is in the freadbear and William in spring bonnie... I'm not sure what you mean because I mentioned that in the theory??
I'm leaning towards William maybe accidently killing Cassidy and hiding his body, hence his vengeful nature.
Lastly, I don't think the dirt mound is ever confirmed or even commonly speculated as CC's?? Most people believe it's CC breaking out of the room if anything.
this man has a nice voice defo needs more subs
Was considering reading the books afraid it'll tank the channel 😂
try some things out if it goes bad then go back to what worked@@FlyGlint5
This is a great theory I disagree with some things otherwise this is a great
The new Matpat award goes to you. Love the videos
Thanks very much! I don't think I can take that title but I appreciate it!!!
@@FlyGlint5 np :)
Why d I feel like we should summon Animguy?! I need answers!!!
Why would william kill cassidy for no reason?
That we don't know yet, but the same can be applied to theories about Suzie, Charlie, anyone...
Imo it makes the most sense for it to either be an accident or an impulsive act of rage.
@@FlyGlint5 i always thought the mci was a indirect way for him to take out the anger he held for Michael, I think that if cassidy was the first it would've had to have been an accident because there's no real reason outside of "evil man does evil thing because he's evil"
Bro, forgot about spring foxy💀
We only deal with canon on this channel, not fanon
Hey Glint, Cassidy is a girl. Just a heads up.
Lol I'm aware that's the common belief. I just got mixed up with Freadbear and Andrew from the novels.
Also, just to be picky, Cassidys gender is never actually confirmed anywhere so who knows! 😂
I could’ve sworn Cassidy is said to be a boy considering what the voicelines in ucn say. For example withered chica says “I have seen HIM. The one you shouldn’t have killed”
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If I had a chocolate factory I'd give it to you
@@FlyGlint5Willy wonka reference
@@Sassy_Mavvy_the_1stno shit
I had a similar thought after ryetoasts ar theory, but with the drowning motif for Cassidy at fallfest; but this makes a lot of sense and ties in goldy more, and the fire.
I do need to flesh out Cassidys death details more.
I choked on my water when I heard you call Cassidy a him. Why exactly do you think Cassidy is a boy? Just wondering
There are a few reasons Cassidy is often assumed to be a boy. If I’m correct the picture used for Cassidy in UCN is actually Scott’s son. Additionally, golden Freddy is thought to be a male character so people often make the connection there. Also, in Fazbear Frights, the stitchwraith story, which is generally thought to be a comparison to Cassidy and the crying child both possessing Golden Freddy, both children are boys.
However it is more likely Cassidy is a girl I feel. Although it doesn’t matter too much, Cassidy is usually a girl’s name and Cassidy is thought to be the Princess in Princess quest, which gender is clear there.
Oh I don't subscribe either way. I have no idea of Cassidys gender. Any slip of the tounge calling Cassidy a boy outright was just my brain conflating them with the animatronic Fredbear and Andrew from the novels. 😂
Way too dramatic 💀
does it really matter? its a fictional character
@masky6140 no, not really. I just assumed everyone thought Cassidy was a girl since I've never seen anyone else with that opinion.