A hard round with a 59 year old white belt
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- čas přidán 23. 11. 2023
- In this video I am rolling with Donnie. He is a new 59 year old white belt at the academy. This was an interesting roll to say the least! I try to coach him through out the round on the benefits or relaxing.
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This video is a great lesson for new white belts. I’m a 54 yr old white belt 3 months in and have been very aware of trying not to be that spastic white belt to protect myself and my partner. Gassing out quickly is part of the learning process too and learning when to breathe and recover. I still roll with other white belts who will agree to slow-roll or go 50% but then 30 seconds into the roll they’re looking to smash me lol. Thanks for the video and btw - I always appreciate a higher belt stopping during a roll to point something out or teach me in the moment - it’s invaluable.
Hey Christian! At your point in the journey spastic white belts can be especially dangerous to you! I wish more people would have stopped and taught me. That is why I am this way. Thank you for watching!
3 practices in. yep i’m the spastic white belt
The best advice I can give is try to not push the limits of your athletic ability even if it means getting subbed. Eventually you will find the answers in the techniques instead of your natural ability(which can only take you so far and leads to gassing out)@@jonaspina8769
Would you suggest private lessons for the mid 50’s out of shape newguy?
Yes after about 3 months. Just go to the beginner class if possible. You want to have a basic knowledge of what is going on before paying for a private in my opinion. In the mean time stay loose. Don't fight to the death. Don't tough out submissions. Just learn! @@irishcoffee5412
I’m a 51 year old black belt, and I’m only 150 lbs. I’m at a point in my life where I just am not willing to deal with larger white belts who spaz and cannot relax. Because I am “going easy” to let the white belt work, it’s a recipe for me getting injured. Right now the most important thing to me is being able to train tomorrow.
haha. I totally understand and respect to you sir. I agree with injury avoidance. At the same time I feel we should be able to handle the untrained. Since they move in ways that won't seem familiar or logical. Thank you for tuning in !
@@Jitsover50 Yes I agree with you. And I “can” handle the untrained and I have done so many many times, I’m just at the point now where the risk is no longer worth the reward. Being able to train every day is more than a hobby- it’s important for my mental health.
@@tommym321 I get it. I only go with wild and crazy guys on occasion.
55 y/o purple: This.
I hope he doesn't quit. Will be interesting to see him again in 6-8 months if he learns to control himself a bit more.
He had great heart and loves the art. The problem may be injury.
@er50 As you may know already, his injury frequency will be determined mostly on how aggressive he continues to train; specifically in Randori. As a usual tid-bit for new white belts who often are anxious and constantly concerned with not doing 'enough' during the roll; I give this advice often. Learn to settle your breathing; yes its a task that many people never thought about before, but its a valuable asset throughout the journey. Two, pay attention to not letting your shoulders, move much forward passed your knees (or hips too often, especially when kneeling); to accentuate that process, there are sweeps that can be shown to further explain why being off balance in that form is a force against you. Good luck to that gentleman, and hope he stays with the training; its a grand ride! Cool video, keep after it! Oss.
As a 59 year old white belt that is about 2 months in, this was really great! Thank you.
You are my target audience for this video. Ha. Thank you!
I'm a 92-year-old white belt. I want to become a blue belt soon
Loved watching this… I’m a 40 year old female purple belt that just started to coach and this helped me communicate to my students what is happening when we roll….and omg I can’t agree more about that effortless sweep comment! I could care less about submissions compared to an effortless sweep 🎉❤
Thank you Lydia and thank you for tuning in! I hope you watched my videos with purple belt Jen! Effortless sweeps for life! Respect@
I think its a good attitude. If subs are there cool, but I prefer getting sweeps and controlling people than getting taps. Not that I'm amazing or anything. Just a 40's blue belt. I like chill rolling.
Brings back memories. I started at a Gracie school at 59 and loved it. Went for 14 months before moving to a different country.
Can you find a school in your new country?
We just moved to another country 2 weeks ago but I think there is a school here
Thank you for these videos. I'm a 45 yo white belt and you are helping me learn. Most importantly helping remind me to STAY CALM!!! Luckily I have a lot of great people like you to roll with every class.
First thank you for watching and the kind words. Comments such as yours always brighten my day! Whenever you feel yourself straining send your intentions in the opposite direction. It leads to a great deal of growth. To be considered a great training partner is the highest honor. Respect to you Matt!
im a 63 yo 1 month white belt, can relate to this guy! i actually am trying harder to relax and breath than worry too deeply about techniques since i know so little. and like this guy, on my first few rolls, i gassed out and worked way too hard. am getting better at relaxing and figure only 3-400 more submissions put on me and by then i might actually tap someone else. (another white belt i am sure) it was good that you were coaching him as you rolled, a couple guys have done that for me and it helped me a lot. great informational video!
Omg this is me in every roll. So helpful!
Glad it was helpful! This was all of us once for at east a few moments. ha
Thank you for your content. I’m an early 40’s beginner overcoming some serious health issues. This practice really is an art. Your poise and graciousness are obvious.
Anthony these videos teach me more than anything else on CZcams. ❤
Wow thank you George! And it show in your jiu-jitsu. It’s been great to see your growth in real time.
It is funny just how exhausting it is when you’re just starting out. Engaging muscles throughout your body that haven’t been used like that I guess. Not breathing properly, and just the overwhelming body heat is a killer to me!
I think the main problem for beginners is they try to lift another human being off with improper body mechanics. In 3-6 months you will develop the basic fitness required for effective Jiu-jitsu.
If you find heat too much of an issue.. switch to nogi.. much cooler.. and less stalling.
I have never found heat an issue. It could be a weight loss issue@@tomincanada
It gets easy fast I promise just keep showing up
@@Jitsover50no after 2-3 rolls & an hour drilling I remove my rash guard under my gi or go with my no gi partners, in the south it gets hot !
Always look forward to these - thank you.
how many other combat sports can you start when you're almost 60 years old? Good on this guy for humbling himself to come into an environment like this !
Yes! It takes a lot of bravery to get on the mat at 60!
love watching you roll, thanks for the footage!
You are welcome! Thank you for watching!
Just discovering this channel. It is gold. Thank you Coach
Wow! Thank you!
Very inspiring, great channel! I love how you roll calm and smooth and on the same time help and control explosive and aggressive opponents.
Thank you for watching. Staying calm and smooth is the key to efficient BJJ!
Great lessons for life in general! 👍
I enjoy these musings. Very creative thanks for sharing!!!
I was super ‘aggressive’ or keen after starting BJJ and got injured after 1 week!!! Took months off and now returned more humble, more chill and just technique hungry now. I know it is a long patient journey now.
I'm a 20 year old white belt and I love these videos. You give some great information and really help me to slow down and get more technical. I'm a pretty strong guy and I don't want to hurt anyone. I've slowed down a bunch and I got tapped way more often. Now I'm able to maintain positions and roll for ~7 5 minute rounds back to back no problem. Great stuff! Thanks a bunch, sir :D
This is great to hear! Yes getting tapped happens more after you stop using strength and speed. I didn't realize this until I was a seasoned blue belt. The key is to always do just enough. It helps you learn the nuances of the positions! Plus it's more efficient, effective and fun once you learn the responses.
This is a great video, you're going smooth, relaxed and being a valuable training partner. As the sport grows we need more supportive coaches and training partners as such.
Yea brother! Thank you!
i am lucky to learn this lesson from my coach Mike and a few people in the gym that don't even breath heavy after a roll with me. Great lesson to learn and thank you for teaching it!
Thank you! The answers are in the jiu jitsu!
I love this guy
Thanks for the video. I’m a 51 year old white belt and slowly learning. Fortunately my instructor and fellow students are great people.
Having good people all around you is a true blessing BUT let's change "slowly" learning to "quickly". The faster you learn, the safer you will be from injury. This requires studying CZcams videos. I think you are doing that already! Respect.
love the smother as an arm bar set up!
I have to look into that!
I really like your style. It's so important to give new guys a clear understanding of appropriate energy.
Thank you! Exactly!
You're a true purple belt sir, and your skill level is where it should be. Great coaching
Wow! Great instructional video. 😊
Thank you sir. Is this your first time viewing a video from my channel?
The sweep is an homage to Archimedes. The effortless lever. Well done.
One of my favorite quotes!
My experience has been you have to roll with them once and tap them 3 times before they really listen. After that, new white belts will listen.
Yes! I was thinking triangle!
I'm 54 and just started. I like the running commentary so I can follow what is going on to learn more efficiently.
Hey man! That is so awesome! Back when I started there weren't any 50 year olds beginning their journeys. Congrats and thank you! I hope the channel helps.
@@Jitsover50I started 18 months ago aged 52. I got my blue belt at Christmas. I was also told to chill and it improved my game. But this video still taught me. Thanks
One of the best for a new guy I've seen, thanks to both of you. I'm 4 weeks (59) in and this looks a lot like me.
That is what I love to hear. Just go easy and the answers will appear.
Nice to see older dudes roll. Great video TX
Im a 59 yr old 3 year white belt. Mat time teaches patience. I get injured very easy now ( two shoulder surgerys, 20 yr old lower back spine fusion and both knees needing fixed now. And bursitis flaring up every where. I still love to get into it) I like rolling with blue belts and above. I have no choice but to roll for what I call muscle memory. JMO
@@lude3645 thank you. Try and study up on deficiencies in your game. It makes the journey easier and limits injury. In my opinion.
Blows my mind how you tell people to relax and they are incapable of it. Even during drills they are using strength.
I was incapable of it once too. ha. It is something that some people require more time to develop.
Good job Donny keep at it
5:30 is the definitely the guard pass of someone new to bjj :)
As a 55 y/o blue belt I am very glad you try to give him a very important lesson: go easy! Like you said, to don't gass out, but also to not injure your partners. This strong, spazy way of fighting will often lead to injuries, on him or on his training partners. I recently fought a 23 y/o new white belt, who after the roll told me he came from the French legionary army force. All speed, hard, spassy fight, but after 2-3minutes completely gassed out, so easy mount and arm triangle. Same story, so well done to you!
Exactly David!! When they gas I always say you have to keep going! Lol
I'll be turning 50 next year and been in BJJ for about 9 months. It's going really well, I have professional fighting experience in boxing/kickboxing from my youth as well as black belts in other martial arts. Those dsicipliines have helped in my beginning BJJ only in the sense to take it slow, not be spastic and truly listen to the higher ranks/professors, etc. I survived my first marathon roll last week 19 rounds, first 6 were vs black belt instructors and it was rough but very informational. Got my first legitimate tap of a higher belt this week because of the tips I learned in the marathon. When you roll with 19 guys straight you sorta sink or swim. I mostly sank, but learned and only survived that crazy 19 round marathon because I took it slow and tried to stay calm and learn my body weight, etc and what my partner was giving me or not. BJJ really is a patient person's art otherwise? It won't work. Good vid.
Welcome to Jiu-jitsu! It is a tough to start later in life but you sound pretty qualified! 19 rounds sounds crazy. How long were the rounds? I prefer 8-10 minute rounds.
These are always fantastic videos! Many thanks for uploading them, enjoy the format. Recently returned to the mat after 8 year layoff at 50 now..but jiu jitsu was always cross training for me as I teach Wing Chun/Chinese Boxing..have to approach it very differently to when I first got on the mat in 1999. 🙏
Hey Paul! Thank you. You know I have a Wing Chun background? Shaolin as well.
@Jitsover50 ahh I didn't know that! Cool, I'm under Sifu Alan Orr (Chu Sau Lei Wing Chun) whose a BJJ black belt and big into cross training/mma etc also. Love grappling myself but have been hit and miss due to injuries in the past (groin tears and disc issues mainly) but always a workaround. Take care and keep these videos coming, really informative for me as an experienced white belt 🙏
@@paulblissett1674 im familiar with Alan Orr! I trained Wing Chun with Sifu Jose Grados in NYC. I also trained Shaolin under 3 different monks as well. Do you find Wing Chuns useful as I do for hand fighting in bjj?
@Jitsover50 ahh many years ago I invited Jose Grados to the UK to hold a seminar but we couldn't get enough to commit to make it worthwhile. Cool. Yes, the Wing Chun we do has a big body structure element and awareness of clinch etc so it does carryover to some degree in terms of efficiency and elbows in, breathing focus etc but the ground is a different beast as you know. Loving exploring it again anyway 👊
@@paulblissett1674 I meant more specifically for grip fighting awareness. You will see it often in my videos! Plus the structural sound elbow in arm position.
Great vid, i started jui jistu this time last year, 39 then 40 now, im very strong physically i have always been into powerlfting, and not in bad cardio shape could be better but the biggest thing i struggled with was staying relaxed during rolls and also i kept holding my breath and gassed out bad a couple of times, i would do breathing exersises and stuff before traning but as soon as we start rolling bang fight or flight kicks in, getting better now and relaxing and learning theres no rush and pick my spots to breath, fan from the uk 🇬🇧
Greetings Paul!! Relaxing is key! You could be a triathlete but tension can only be held for a short amount of time before exhaustion! I am thankful for my subscribers in the UK! Respect to you Paul! where are you training sir?
Yeah relaxation is a skill in itself, i think being a bigger fella leads towards me gassing quick aswell i carry a bit of muscle mass 5.11 106kg, i get told not to use so much strength or should be more flexible but hey u use what u have i wont tell the skinny kid not to be so fast or flexible 😉, soi have 2 main schools close by, a checkmat that ive not trianed at yet its actually at the gym i use and havering jui jitsu academy, a couple of black belts from these have got splinter academy's and i use one of those at the moment, look forward to more vids mate i find the live rolls helpfull compared to technical vids as techniques dont work so well on live game opponents 😂
This 59 yo man reminds me so much of Branko Cikatic, a guy Mark Kerr fought at Pride FC 2, late 1990s. Cikatic foughtfor his very life, like at gun point, he had fire in his eyes, and a knife in his teeth.
And you, the purple belt, the silent killer. I try to roll as a silent grappler. You said something that really pleased me, a good technical sweep is better than a sub.
I thought we couldn't think this way in BJJ. Well, let me go ahead and tell you about what I fee is better than submission: Lot of my sparring I earn verbal submissions, like I defend so well they get tired of trying since it does work.
Another thing I do vs better upperbelts, I just defend each and every moves and technique they offer me. The feeling I get is undescribable, like your brain on drug, I kid you not. It feel like they're just going through the motion of a telegraphed choregraphic movie scene on me.
Agreed! In tomorrow’s video I just defend the first 5 minutes by not letting my partner get gripd
Hi Anthony. I appreciate the videos. Just curious, what camera do you use? I film with a gopro but it's typically very grainy, yours is nice and sharp.
The go pro is too wide IMO. I own 2 of them. I use a Sony A7iii. The link is in my Bio. I also use a decent lens. I shoot everything in 4k. You could by the Sony A6500 if you don't want to spend a lot of guacamole. ha
Thanks for the videos. I am following everyday. Volkan ‐ 46yo ‐ whitebelt ‐ Turkey
Very instructional. Hard for newbs to get the right balance between giving up and being overly aggressive without technique or experience. Good for you to try to address that balance as he is inadvertantly a danger, especially to other white belts. Better to roll calm and be subbed 20x. He'll learn quicker.
Gassing out as a white belt is all true. too much muscle with no technique learned can really be frustrating for the older white belt. Been there done that. Keep rolling! OSS! Can you do content on rolling with frozen shoulder?
I have injured both shoulders. My advice on rolling with a frozen shoulder is not to. lol
Yep. Every time.
Blue belt here. I have to comment on the sweeps feeling better than submission. I am the same way ❤. I love sweeps lol. Its all I am currently going for. I average about 8 sweeps per open mat. My glory moment is I managed to land 4 sweeps on a brown belt in one 5min roll. Hitting a sweep is so much fun. It involves so many mechanics and seeing them slowly topple over is so rewarding. Great content 🙏
We are of similar minds! The mechanics amaze me. Plus there are endless combinations. Applying principles on the fly under pressure. Respect sir!
Hahaha new people are innocent is a brilliant line, I am laughing so hard.
Haha.
I surf alot of bjj. Yours is the best at explaining. Voice over works great. I am a 66yr old blue belt
Wow thank you!
I started the voice over because I was testing a mic for my video business. Crazy how that took off
@@Jitsover50 What city is the school in. Would love to drop in someday!
I'm in New York but it isn't my school. Meaning I am not the owner. If you are going to drop in make sure you call ahead sir. @@ronboehme3362
I’m a 47 year old power lifter with 8 months into JJ.
Watching this fostered some much needed self awareness.
In buddhism they say "Know yourself so that others may know you".
What is that sweep called at 3:17? I've never seen it before.
I'm not sure the name but I use different variations of it quite often. If I can get my right hook in I can sweep partners over if their arm is occupied. I usually just us it as an escape to spin and get back to guard BUT Donnies left arm was occupied underneath me. So it was basically something I improvised on the spot.
Nice 👍🏼 - looked like he was trying for a Stepover Choke a few times, but his grip was on the wrong side of the collar…
yes! Exactly. I love that choke btw
@@Jitsover50 me, too, I’m a 56 year old 3 stripe purple in martial arts since 1987 - we’re brothas from another motha - learned that choke from a book, Saulo’s Jiu Jitsu University!
I need to find a school like this....I'm about to be 50 and definitely don't care to roll with young alphas! I know nothing about Jiu Jitsu...but dang, it looks fun. Great video.
Thank you Gino! It is a lot of fun for sure. Find a school with as many older students as possible. Though there are many young students who roll in a safe and controlled manner.
As a 58-year-old purple belt. I've learned over the years that by taking it easy when rolling, you learn a lot more, you see a lot more so when the time comes to roll harder your technique is better and you have a higher success rate.
Good stuff bro
Thank you!
22 year old former wrestler who recently started jiu jitsu. Strained a muscle in my rib almost immediately 😂 goes to show everyone could benefit from slowing down a bit
I am sorry to hear about your rib. Mine are all screwed up as well. Back from when I was a younger knucklehead. lol. n Learn to defend the knee on belly position. It really helps
He looks strong.
Oh yeah.
This is Good. I am 58. Now starting 5th month important info.
Thank you! Welcome to jiu-jitsu
Excellent roll. What can I do to get out of mount sir? Blue belts always stay more time on me, when i do a sweap they recover in seconds and to me it takes a lot? ...could it be my age 35 years old? My time of training 2 months? Or should i learn a better technique?
if you have only trained two months its only natural that blue belts can stay on top of you. If they couldn't, their techniques would be worthless too you know! just keep showing up and trying
Your age is fine. I started BJJ at 36. Search CZcams for mount escapes. I like to bump with my hip and turn on my side while bringing in my knee. Try and never lay flat on your back as. principle.
@@Jitsover50 thanks
@@robbespel8393 nice comment Thanks
Donny!
Spazz!
I can identify with Donny. As a 53 year old white belt most all of the upper belts that I rolled with have commented that I am strong. From your video I see that this might not have been a compliment so much as a critique that I should be focusing on technique instead of strength. The trouble is, as a white belt, I have no technique. I can't see anything coming and I don't have a game plan.
I totally understand about not knowing any technique. This is where you take agency over your jiu-jitsu and watch videos to develop. That way you can slowly start applying techniques and using less strength. Just rolling isn't enough. It takes mental engagement and tons of study
Yeah, new white belts are a mixed bag, but I totally understand the perceived aggression. They have no idea what they're doing, no understanding of how to position themselves or even how to start passing/sweeping/submitting, etc, and they're just reacting instinctively. They all calm down over time once they become more comfortable :)
Ahhh this takes me back
I see so many things I did and still do.
Well now you could find the best responses
As a 54 yo white belt that’s about to get his 3rd stripe, this is exactly the type of ego driven white belt that one needs to stay away from while rolling. Instead of rolling to learn, in a more relaxed and playful fashion, these low JJ IQ “hard chargers” roll to win at all costs. Rolling with proverbial apes like this seems to just produce injuries, hence it is wise to stay away from them, until they become more civilized 😅. It’s almost as if these types need to be “broken in” by skilled higher belts such as yourself before they can become good rolling partners. Thank you for your very informative videos. I really appreciate your channel.
Thank you for watching and commenting! He just needed to be tamed a bit! He is much better now and I consider him a friend.
@@Jitsover50 thank you for the response and that’s good to hear 👍🏼
Old judo guy here but new to bjj. This aggressive behavior seems to be common to all those new to combat sports. I’ve always assumed 2/3 of it was ego and 1/3 lack of coordination. Something universal in our brains.
I think it comes from peoples mental image of what a fight is based on movies. Combined with primordial self protection and lack of coordination. haha.
Really enjoyable watch, I do question just how much good this will do in a real altercation with a genuinely powerful opponent droping elbows to the face? Like Mike Tyson once said, “we all have a plan until we get punched in the face” it seems the environment is so controlled that any variable might through these skilled bjj guys off, I may be wrong! And mean no disrespect as I think your a great athlete and sportsman/fighter , I think getting some random guys who have never trained to spaz out and stink the joint out could actually benifit the bjj guys if it’s agreed the most dangerous subs for injury are not to be used and just trying to set things up rather then the ego boosting subs. Or 80% of guys will suffer shock from thinking they have everything in order but when the rule book goes out the window are suprised by how ill prepared they are ? Btw I think your a great guy and excellent , skilled operator, your a purple belt and even you said yourself against some spaz in a street fight it didn’t all go to plan, now imagine a young , fit guy with some striking skills, students should be wise to understand this like yourself.
Having said all this I would love to have your skill set on the ground! Thanks for your content it’s brilliant and inspiring stuff!! And ignore the muppets saying wait to after rolling to give advice, what aload of trash, you taking care and talking while rolling is exceptional tuition , Take care
There is no perfect martial art when it comes to street fighting. Each martial art is a tool in your toolbox. Maybe BJJ won’t be the perfect tool for every situation. But you’ll be a hell of a lot better off knowing how to handle yourself if you’re attacked. And yes, it’s “controlled.” It has to be, or no one would realistically be able to train it while having other jobs and responsibilities. What I think separates BJJ from other martial arts is 1. You are trying to execute moves on someone who is fully resisting you, so you get a realistic idea of whether the moves work, and 2. It gives you the power to control someone without hurting them. And that is a skill that you will find to be way more needed in your life, because the fantasy people have of dispatching a would be mugger is just a silly fantasy. But your idiot friend who insists on driving home drunk and won’t take no for an answer? Now you have a tool to deal with that situation.
Yeah the spastic phase is inevitable and something most people grow out of (by blue belt in the worst case scenario!). We all went through it and as soon as we start understanding technique, you let it go.
50 year old new white belt here. I still struggle with not going full speed as at this level its all you have, and I feel like danger from being subbed is everywhere. Your natural instinct is to try and suvive nevermind subbing anyone. I really have to concentrate on slowing down and breathing, especially when under someone's weight.
Frames are key especially under someone's weight!
11:47 lol
The most frustrating thing about these guys is when they’ve finally run out of gas and your opportunities for stack begin to open up, they tap from exhaustion.
Yep! lol
Watching old boys rolling about the mat is much better than watching the Jets 🤦🏼♂️😢
The Jets have been a source of frustration since my father generation. haha
aint that a fact
white belts going balls out is my biggest problem right now. I try to be really chill but people are just ripping stuff on me and I dont have the skills to defend that without effort yet.
Yes it is a problem until a certain skill level is attained. That usually comes by purple. Now I feel I can roll with any new person and not get injured. No matter how insane they are. lol. Just try and learn to simply fend them off. You hear me use this term. It requires positioning and efficient frames. You may not submit them but you will stay safe.
IMO....No white belt should be rolling yet like this. Maybe positional sparing but no full steam ahead.
Yeah I think I have to agree with you.
Sometimes us old guys feel like we have something to prove lol
haha I understand.
im a 62 yr old white belt and i am a lot like this guy. I truly see the error of this aggression in JuJitsu thru this video.
If you record your rolls there is so much you can learn. I’m glad this video helped your journey
The problem is they have no experience of any other martial arts at all. They think it’s a fight to the death when you’re kindly showing them techniques. To us with experience it seems that they’re completely mental. I remember though after years of Karate and becoming an instructor in the 90’s then moving into other Jiu Jitsu related MA’s. I was stiff but never a ‘lost soul’ case like this guy. But I had to go to Tibetan Monastery to chill a bit. When I came out I found I could do JJ etc properly with gentle flow taking action with leverage and skill not fear or muscle.
I’d much rather someone be aggressive and engage than someone who avoids engaging because they don’t want to get submitted. I always think why come to a jiu jitsu class if you don’t want to engage in jiu jitsu, getting submitted is part of the journey
Yes engaging is key! Just see where it goes
the problem is they have no idea what they doing and injure themselves and their partner accidentally
This is true but there is a skill to develop in not getting injured against the untrained. If we always avoid them we won't develop that aspect@@abncde
You should be careful to not give guys like these a heart attack
Agreed. Usually when someone becomes exhausted they take their foot off the gas but not in Donnie’s case.
Yeah, I’m a 43 yr old no-gi purple belt. We get a lot of older gentleman doing this. I even had a 22 yr old kid go freaking death match on me a month ago. I was 14 weeks out of knee surgery. I had to ramp it up on him. I caught this kid in a guard arm bar. This kid didn’t tap. His arm was 10 degrees or so hyperextended. He literally were going to let his arm break. I finally had to tap for him and disengaged with him.
Yes I’ve done the same. If they don’t tap I’ll let go and just keep pressure.
@@Jitsover50 Some of these new white belt kids from 20-26 and these older guys from 45-55 go nuts, a lot. Something about those ages. It’s like the younger group is going to show how tough they are by almost purposely trying to hurt themselves and others, and this older group is having delusions of their 20’s. I’m not a very large guy. I am 5’5”, 170lbs. These individuals are 5’10”+ at 200-225. They use every ounce of strength and weight to “win”. I always have to explain to them that if one of us taps, we just start over until the 5 minute round is finished. There really isn’t a “winner” so stop going after me like it’s a death match street fight.
It’s funny just around the corner from blue at 51. Trying to quit being that guy.
It takes time. I stopped using muscle after I was a blue belt for 2 years.
If this is life at 50 I don’t even want it
May your wish come true
Fix the merch link. That ain't it.
Thank you! Fixed!
If he only has had six classes and in one of them, he broke a rib, the six classes must have been over a long period of time - since he had to heal before rolling again.
Yes he only waited a couple of weeks. I wait 4-6 weeks with my injuries
Stealing the ankle pick from collar
Unfortunately, no matter the age, gender, race, physical abilities, there's alot of aggressive folks out there that need to experience the techniques and skill versus pure muscle and aggression.
He deserves credit for being aggressive and athletic because in a Real street fight he will still be effective but BJJ will just make the fight more controlled and easier.
Agreed. Well said. Thank you for watching.
That guy was not doing anything wrong. You want him to just let you win? Would you be happy then?
When did I say he did anything wrong?
25 years and still a purple belt? bro you should tell us your story
I started bjj 15 years ago and I’m currently a brown belt. Before that I did Kung fu for 10 years
@@Jitsover50 Okay here's why the issue with white belts and those new to grappling arts vs striking arts. Simply when someone only taps, white belts thinking well I was not injured or knocked out, where's striking yes you go easy but if they keep on coming after you, you're forced to step-up the contact or just sway-out the way of what they are doing. Day one on starting grappling they have to be told majority of the strength will hinder you're progress because you have to problem solve using technique, weight distribution, energy conservation etc I can see you tried to explain this, but this guy set himself up for learning the hard way.
@@Anthony-wr2zl Hello my fellow Anthony. You summed it up well! I think in the very early stages for some people t is all but impossible to even comprehend this concept. BUT yes we should still try and explain it to them so they can avoid injury and injuring others
Man you tried to go for a gogoplata against an aggressive white belt at that weight who only knows how to either tense up or explode out...
That is a knee pop waiting to happen for you.
Agreed! Fortunately I’m very flexible with that knee. Thank you for watching!
Good teachers are not common.
Agreed. Or you could be good at demonstrating sound technique but not know how to run a class or school.
@@Jitsover50 So true. If there are any techniques you might want my perspective on, please let me know.
@@danielmccarthy9065 how do you approach the knee shield?
@@Jitsover50 I can do a video. I am quite proficient eating knee shield for dinner. It all starts with attacking the arm on the knee shield side. You also never lean into the leg but drive the hip into their shin. I will see if I can video it tomorrow. I am flying to Boston Monday to work and train with Marcos Tinoco.
@@danielmccarthy9065 very cool. Send my regards. He was my main coach at MGA academy.
I hate rolling with brand new white belts.
I used to hate it. Now I get a kick out of it. Such expansive movements. So innocent. Like cradling a baby.
lol, yeah, maybe when I get better, I’ll enjoy it more. I usually just spend the entire round protecting my face and trying not to get injured 😂
haha. I understand. Did you see how close his kicking feet came to my face? Yet we have to develop reactions to the untrained. Especially since that is who you will probably end up fighting.@@jrizzy626
Once a week or so I throw a brand new white belt in the mix. It's a good way to remind yourself how chaotic real altercations can be. ..and being a 5 8 155lb Blu belt 44 y o I need them....lol
That is exactly what it looked like, you were baby sitting a big adult.
This show how amazing jiu jitsu techniques are. I love how you narrate your beautiful techniques.
This man is such a great shape for his age tho, I hope he understands sustainability that if you can’t continue training, it doesn’t matter how good of shape you are in.
Oof. BJJ is super hard on the body; injuries are super common. Definitely not a good sport for a 59 year old beginner.
Agreed! I began at 36 and felt too old at the time! lol. If he slows down, with the proper treatment, he can become proficient. His partners need to be able to hold back their need to match his intensity. At the same time he has to learn to slow down and feel everything.
I mean, it all depends on how smart you are with it. Being mindful about your training, choosing partners wisely, fighting the urge to let your ego get involved.
@@tommym321 True, but have you ever known one single BJJ practitioner who was not nursing at least one injury on a pretty regular basis?
@@NealBrewer That’s true, but I can say the same about guys my age who are still playing basketball pretty regularly.
@@tommym321 Sure except for the fact that young men who practice BJJ are constantly nursing injuries, indicating that an older man would fare far worse, especially since he is just now starting to roll.
It is not good to converse while training. You can teach afterwards.
Whatever dude
As a white belt, i find it very helpful when higher belts guide me while rolling
Same@@sipowicz942
Talk less train more.
Just cause you’re talking doesn’t mean you’re not working. Not every roll has to 1000%. He’s trying to let the beginner work and learn.
way too much talking. that is not helpful during rolling, do that afterwards.
I'll do whatever I want.
respectfully disagree. those brief talks are very valuable. i enjoyed the video.
Wierd how many people will say this as though it's a fact. I can't imagine any other sport where someone would say a more experienced person giving advice during training is a bad thing. @@Jitsover50
My biggest issue with sparring with people like this is they always end up kicking me in the balls and i'm just like broooo
Problem is most people never get adrenaline exposure or conditioning, they live basically normal, uneventful, lives. Guys who have occupations, trained in other combat sports, or had colorful up bringings, that provided the fight or flight experience, usually... Dont get so spastic.
Dude is going 100% while learning... lol I hate people like this. Just relax. You're trying to LEARN.
I haven’t seen him at the academy in months. I fear he may have injured himself.