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  • Daryl Sawchuk, Visual Effects Supervisor for Method Studios and Animation Supervisor for Black Panther, gives WIRED an exclusive look at breakdowns of the digital Black Panther and Kilmonger suits, and the final fight scene of Marvel's mega-blockbuster.
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  • @hafezelachkar7810
    @hafezelachkar7810 Před 4 lety +631

    RIP the legend who even did his own stunts while battling cancer you wont be forgotten.

    • @elliast
      @elliast Před 4 lety +7

      Hafez Elachkar ong. RIP Chadwick Boseman, AKA King T’Chala. ✊🏿

    • @elliast
      @elliast Před 4 lety +2

      Nitin Shravan.S yessir

    • @kennethstermer3950
      @kennethstermer3950 Před 3 lety +1

      WAKANDA FOREVER!!!!

  • @RandomBlackGamer
    @RandomBlackGamer Před 6 lety +248

    Marvel's team are masters at roto-cg. It's crazy that characters like Spider-Man barely even have to wear practical costumes anymore.

  • @TheZoeBig
    @TheZoeBig Před 6 lety +3718

    The problem with CGI is that you only notice it when it's bad

    • @bdnotb6364
      @bdnotb6364 Před 5 lety +104

      Wow I never heard something accurate when it comes to cgi I 100% agree with u

    • @illuminazi9208
      @illuminazi9208 Před 5 lety +10

      That's SOO true

    • @kennethschaijk8698
      @kennethschaijk8698 Před 5 lety +43

      true, and black panther sucked black balls lol

    • @nadimkazi87
      @nadimkazi87 Před 5 lety +20

      *Just like Salt in food*

    • @NoisyRogue
      @NoisyRogue Před 5 lety +14

      Behizy guy don’t lie green lanterns was better than what this movie produced it the final fight looked like a Mobil phone everyone on the theater cringed because of it during the final fight

  • @SlytherStudios
    @SlytherStudios Před 6 lety +1777

    This was my favorite animated movie of the year! Maybe they'll make a live action version one day.

  • @penart8079
    @penart8079 Před 6 lety +2236

    Iron man 1 CGI still surprises me to this day

    • @sanjithtamballa
      @sanjithtamballa Před 6 lety +9

      pen art same!

    • @yaboij.j3423
      @yaboij.j3423 Před 6 lety +6

      Why

    • @fionali4453
      @fionali4453 Před 5 lety +181

      it was extremely realistic and it was also made in 2005. the arc reactor, suit, flying scenes over the desert, etc, were all very well done for CGI in that time

    • @babasxn
      @babasxn Před 5 lety +55

      Jon Favreau kinda sticked to practical effects rather than using CGI for everything.

    • @duckentity4515
      @duckentity4515 Před 5 lety +38

      @@fionali4453 The movie is form 2008 and was filmed in 2007

  • @MrGNugget
    @MrGNugget Před 6 lety +1368

    The CGI in that final battle was horrendous, but everything else was great. Shoutout to them for making Wakanda look like a real place

    • @dumebiafran1180
      @dumebiafran1180 Před 5 lety +33

      The name wakanda is a real village in Uganda.

    • @spencerleo5126
      @spencerleo5126 Před 5 lety +41

      @@dumebiafran1180 pretty sure it isnt full of skyscrapers

    • @dumebiafran1180
      @dumebiafran1180 Před 5 lety +12

      @@spencerleo5126 I know, I was talking about the name.

    • @ghostyy6081
      @ghostyy6081 Před 5 lety +46

      MrGNugget apperantly the ending scene was bad because the studio was running short on time and they had to finish it in 2 weeks so they had to make all the last fight scene in 2 weeks

    • @fariszeidan8495
      @fariszeidan8495 Před 5 lety +47

      @@ghostyy6081 Well actually, they had 6 weeks. But thats still a very short amount of time to animate a fight.

  • @BaltaBueno
    @BaltaBueno Před 6 lety +1663

    When a movie uses that much CGI, you might as well call it an animated movie lol
    And I agree with sam Olive: "TBH as good as the movie was, special effects and CGI wasn't the one of it's highlights."

    • @greekpanda907
      @greekpanda907 Před 6 lety +39

      Balta Bueno EX or they can call it what they want because your opinion is meaningless and insignificant

    • @jasonpeng5798
      @jasonpeng5798 Před 6 lety +36

      special effects made the entire movie. the plot wasnt great, acting was decent, but the CG made it special.

    • @josephine190
      @josephine190 Před 6 lety +43

      A lot of the movie was CGI you just noticed the bad CGI.

    • @Pico_de_Guile
      @Pico_de_Guile Před 6 lety +6

      I haven't seen the movie yet (I don't like movie theaters) but the cgi they highlight in this video is pretty bad. At 2:06 Chadwick Boseman's head wasn't properly aligned with the cgi body. You can see his head shifting right before it gets covered by his mask. 3:19 the suit cgi just looks really low budget. It reminds me of the power rangers show when they morph into their suits.

    • @IsaacH66
      @IsaacH66 Před 6 lety +12

      Greek Panda well then your opinion is meaningless and insignificant

  • @legomoviesstudios8822
    @legomoviesstudios8822 Před 6 lety +105

    "We ended up doing full CG replacements for the actors"
    well that explains why the actions scene sometimes looked like a video game

  • @hughdr10
    @hughdr10 Před 6 lety +18

    How can someone dislike this video? This is absolutely amazing and must’ve taken forever to get it just right. My hats off to the folks that spent many a sleepless nights to accomplish such amazing VFX. Thank you! 🙌🏾

  • @mattceccotti
    @mattceccotti Před 6 lety +18

    I had the pleasure of having Daryl as my animation supervisor on a previous movie and he’s awesome, both as a person and as a leader.

    • @joshuajoe1419
      @joshuajoe1419 Před 2 lety +2

      Wanted to see if this was legit so searched you up on IMBd and If that list is accurate, impressive resume.

    • @mattceccotti
      @mattceccotti Před 2 lety +1

      @@joshuajoe1419 Thanks Joshua!

  • @ChrisKoelsch
    @ChrisKoelsch Před 6 lety +1429

    If CG is good you don't notice it. Sometimes it's good. Sometimes it's not. Either way it does make me slightly sad when I find out that almost nothing in a scene is real.

    • @martinn5626
      @martinn5626 Před 6 lety +60

      This 'n That Studio That's just normal in every kind of movies even Ikeas Catalogue is 80% cgi

    • @itsdogpaw
      @itsdogpaw Před 6 lety +6

      waterside Wakanda, MD

    • @abdul0basit123456789
      @abdul0basit123456789 Před 6 lety +3

      yeah bro nothing real.like 90 % movie is cg.

    • @npcimknot958
      @npcimknot958 Před 6 lety +5

      If you want to know amazing cgi. Wolf of wall street has some and you would never have known! Board walk empire..,etc

    • @Killm33
      @Killm33 Před 6 lety +29

      LOL People are definitely going overboard saying the cgi in Black panther is bad.

  • @nikee04jordan84
    @nikee04jordan84 Před 4 lety +46

    R.I.P CHADWICK😭 WE WILL MISS YOU, WAKANDA FOREVER!✊🏽💔

  • @reimaginedpictures
    @reimaginedpictures Před 6 lety +1251

    “I neva Freez”

    • @smoker3092
      @smoker3092 Před 6 lety +19

      G4RT except he was frozen when he was in coma

    • @JurgenCutters
      @JurgenCutters Před 6 lety +7

      Frrreeeeze. Do u no da way?

    • @AJT-
      @AJT- Před 6 lety +24

      JurgenCutters that is a dead meme dont say it again

    • @JurgenCutters
      @JurgenCutters Před 6 lety +2

      Plasma Dragon well, Black Panther started it..

    • @beangus3092
      @beangus3092 Před 6 lety +7

      JurgenCutters no it didnt...

  • @JamesSmith-uc8nt
    @JamesSmith-uc8nt Před 5 lety +286

    It was uneeded to animate his costume 90% of the time. He looked 1000x better in Civil War and that ending fight scene was unacceptable

    • @brettquinn9040
      @brettquinn9040 Před 5 lety +9

      Fax

    • @detroitfan9596
      @detroitfan9596 Před 4 lety +4

      DryAssChicken I agree. In civil war he had a real suit. I also wish the final fight between them was like Winter Soldier

    • @amanofreviews
      @amanofreviews Před 4 lety +18

      I wouldn’t say unacceptable but it looked weird, tho the choreography was really nice

    • @NomTom
      @NomTom Před 4 lety +3

      I mean, they said in this video why most of the suit was CGI

    • @ozkan576
      @ozkan576 Před 4 lety +1

      His Civil War costume was easily the best

  • @vandetta2894
    @vandetta2894 Před 6 lety +19

    Everyone watching: "Oh, cool! That's how they did that"
    Also Everyone: " I still dont understand what they're doing"

  • @tylergalinanes9515
    @tylergalinanes9515 Před 6 lety +288

    The CGI in the third act looked like two people made of rubber fighting in a PS2 cutscene.

    • @GoffCool
      @GoffCool Před 6 lety +17

      No PS3 cutscene.
      PS2 looks way way worse.

    • @tylergalinanes9515
      @tylergalinanes9515 Před 6 lety +9

      Goff Cool Yeah, that's fair.
      Edit: Not being sarcastic, I agree with you.

    • @GoffCool
      @GoffCool Před 6 lety +3

      Sweet. Glad we can agree on something. Have a nice day.

    • @tylergalinanes9515
      @tylergalinanes9515 Před 6 lety +2

      Goff Cool Same to you.

    • @ryanoco7
      @ryanoco7 Před 6 lety +3

      Tyler Galinanes blade 2 gummi physics

  • @slorr55
    @slorr55 Před 6 lety +2613

    This looks hard

    • @marqparks
      @marqparks Před 6 lety +197

      That's what she said.

    • @kardasdragon123
      @kardasdragon123 Před 6 lety +219

      As a 3D student, it is.

    • @whatwhatwhatwhat3953
      @whatwhatwhatwhat3953 Před 6 lety +81

      Yup, but the pay off earns millions of dollars for them

    • @abyssabyssabyss
      @abyssabyssabyss Před 6 lety +139

      Dame Dollar not really, animators don’t make too much compared to what others earn in the production of these movies earn.

    • @whatwhatwhatwhat3953
      @whatwhatwhatwhat3953 Před 6 lety +12

      coffee keeps me going oh what I was referring to the whole production and cast of the movie when I said that, not only animators. But I wouldn’t lie, I would expect that animators get atleast a million dollars.

  • @Forenzikproductions
    @Forenzikproductions Před 6 lety +1240

    WAYYY too much CGI in the movie, good movie but the best parts were without CGI like the fights at the waterfall

    • @Dizyland_
      @Dizyland_ Před 6 lety +336

      Youdo realize the WHOLE background for all the waterfall scenes is CGI right?

    • @Mcaden101
      @Mcaden101 Před 6 lety +48

      Dizyland r/woosh

    • @erads2185
      @erads2185 Před 6 lety +129

      Basically everything in the movie is CGI, Wakanda isn't a real place you know.

    • @rdp2639
      @rdp2639 Před 6 lety +63

      Oh Yeah? Tell that to the CG animated Raccoon whom got no backlash. Or the taking tree!

    • @daneoman1000
      @daneoman1000 Před 6 lety +13

      The waterfall fight had a tonne of CGI

  • @arthurduarte5212
    @arthurduarte5212 Před 5 lety +393

    Much of the cgi of black panther was exaggerated, the killmonger and t challa fight scene locked like video game

    • @supme7558
      @supme7558 Před 5 lety +5

      Way way worse i cringe just thinking about it baaarf

    • @axillucks4532
      @axillucks4532 Před 5 lety +3

      This is the fault of CGI

    • @ayeitzdj
      @ayeitzdj Před 5 lety +20

      Majority of the people hating on cgi are white

    • @jugjivan
      @jugjivan Před 5 lety +5

      That scene was rushed into the film and was done because the original scene that was mostly SFX failed to meet film standards while the CGI scene was an improvement despite it's flaws.

    • @beckscamscambeck6389
      @beckscamscambeck6389 Před 5 lety +6

      χσνєятιмєχ wtf Does race have to do with anything u fuckhead racist

  • @dejaelexiao551
    @dejaelexiao551 Před 6 lety +9

    I don’t think people truly see how amazing this is and how much time and effort these people take to build these up, I honestly applaud anybody behind this, of. It’s not gonna look totally real because it’s NOT but it’s still nothing short of amazing.., Hats off too them the people who don’t get glorified or seen 🤞🏿

  • @EpicBeard815
    @EpicBeard815 Před 6 lety +842

    "We ended up doing full CG replacements for the actors"
    Yeah. We could tell.

    • @DracoSafarius
      @DracoSafarius Před 6 lety +77

      It wasn't as good as it could be is what's wrong. It looks good, yes, but it's easy to tell where full CG is. I can almost always tell which scenes have full CG Iron Man armor layered over RDJ's body, and it pulls you out of the movie.

    • @insectumvolant9649
      @insectumvolant9649 Před 6 lety +19

      Cartonz Proz marvel movies don’t usually do that. It shows how much this was just a political piece of crap

    • @hackfraudfilms
      @hackfraudfilms Před 6 lety +26

      I couldn’t.

    • @Toaster-jr5eo
      @Toaster-jr5eo Před 6 lety +17

      Meesa Bombad Warrior It may have been a reason to mainly have black characters, but it was still great. They didn't focus on the fact that they weren't white males *cough cough Ghostbusters*.

    • @oluwasegunsamuel6196
      @oluwasegunsamuel6196 Před 6 lety +11

      Draco Safarius isn't that the same with many fiction movies I mean we can all tell which is CGI. Why using that to discredit this movie

  • @Janthdanl
    @Janthdanl Před 6 lety +1028

    The train fight scene cgi was awful, everything else was pretty amazing though, those rhinos were dope

    • @xmanxtreme1195
      @xmanxtreme1195 Před 6 lety +20

      Janthdanl you have a very bad taste of movies then my friend.

    • @StaySqueezy12
      @StaySqueezy12 Před 6 lety +154

      Xman Xtreme Given that a lot more people liked it than disliked it, id say you have the bad taste.

    • @santiagodelagarza2849
      @santiagodelagarza2849 Před 6 lety +90

      SSTWELVE those rhinos were really badly made. And economic success does not equals a good movie. Ever heard of the Transformers saga? Fast and Furious?

    • @hudsonhintze
      @hudsonhintze Před 6 lety +97

      Yeah like the movie itself was good but it is true that the CGI was definitely bad. All of the professional reviews mentioned the bad CG

    • @briansmith2328
      @briansmith2328 Před 6 lety +34

      a - muse - me I think you mean financial success. The movie was positively received by critics and audiences alike. But I do agree that the CGI in the train scene and the Rhinos was really poor. But the movie was still amazing in my opinion.

  • @General0006RBX
    @General0006RBX Před 6 lety +898

    CGI was below usual Marvel standards in my opinion.

    • @competitive_sock
      @competitive_sock Před 6 lety +186

      GenStudios sometimes I think the older iron man suits look way better than the full cg ones in Infinity War ugh

    • @hastalavista3814
      @hastalavista3814 Před 6 lety +34

      Mister Bushido iron man always was cgi

    • @farazahmed7
      @farazahmed7 Před 6 lety +64

      el Papacito not before Disney bought Marvel. Ironman 1 suit was a physical one

    • @ConnorEllisMusic
      @ConnorEllisMusic Před 6 lety +97

      No it wasn't. They made a physical suit of the Mark 2 for lighting reference but what you see in the film is CG.

    • @orijimi
      @orijimi Před 6 lety +50

      Yeah, all of the heroes with skin tight suits in Marvel's movies have been weirdly unconvincing. For instance, Spider-Man's appearance in Civil War was remarkably bad. Ant-Man was somehow done better, though. And I feel like (at least for its time) Tobey Maguire's CGI Spider-Man was way more convincing, particularly in the face.

  • @henryfrith2671
    @henryfrith2671 Před 5 lety +169

    when you have beautiful practical suits why don't you use them and build the scenes around the suits instead of giving my eyes an aneurysm. it would have cost less as well.

    • @spdcrzy
      @spdcrzy Před 5 lety +11

      Because they break. Vibranium doesn't exist in the real world. Not yet, anyways.

  • @DrAdnan
    @DrAdnan Před 6 lety +1

    Black Panther is one of those movies that is so good it just keeps getting better the more you learn about it.

  • @walternate2914
    @walternate2914 Před 6 lety +55

    Guy should have spent some more time on those rhinos, the final fight between Black Panther and Kill Monger, and background at the challenge pool.

    • @JohnSmith-pe6wo
      @JohnSmith-pe6wo Před 6 lety

      Andrew Wadsworth why

    • @walternate2914
      @walternate2914 Před 6 lety +8

      Because it lacked weight/was noticeably CGI. Rest of the movie was great.

  • @_mew
    @_mew Před 6 lety +29

    I wish they had used a mix of practical effects and CGI because it looked so weird during the last fight

    • @DracoSafarius
      @DracoSafarius Před 6 lety +2

      Practical with CGI touch ups is almost always a better look, unless animators go balls to the wall to make it match real life quality.

  • @the_selchies
    @the_selchies Před 6 lety +179

    Why does Black Panther even need to be animated? I can understand some scenes where he’s jumping or getting knocked back but when he’s just walking or running? I hope they improve on the sequel.

    • @theotherside931
      @theotherside931 Před 6 lety +2

      The Selchies There won't be a sequel.

    • @katherinejennings7304
      @katherinejennings7304 Před 6 lety +77

      This film made a billion dollars there will definitely be a sequel, use your brain frank

    • @jennyms1998
      @jennyms1998 Před 6 lety +9

      yeah true, I think its kinda sad how much people rely on CGI these days ...

    • @katherinejennings7304
      @katherinejennings7304 Před 6 lety +23

      Johnny Boy You are so out of line and ignorant ,check yourself. I don't know why or who told you it was ok to say the N word but its not. You're disgusting and Im reporting you.

    • @sodalight84
      @sodalight84 Před 6 lety +5

      A lot of it needs to be replaced because its difficult to create a costume that looks as technologically advanced as wakandan tech. Seams and wrinkles is a big issue. Also, his suit stores kinetic energy which is difficult to visually show that in real life.

  • @showtime5910
    @showtime5910 Před 6 lety +579

    Anybody else who isn’t bugged by the CGI?

  • @salt6787
    @salt6787 Před 6 lety +32

    I just realised Kilmonger changed his hair further in the movie,so like who did his hair in Wakanda? 😂😂😂

    • @rokaanalzeer
      @rokaanalzeer Před 5 lety +9

      SALT hey when you’re about to take over the world, you gotta look good!

    • @RoyaltoonzHD
      @RoyaltoonzHD Před 5 lety +6

      Well, I guess Erik had one of th e servants cornrow his dreadlocks for hin

    • @delphimichaels164
      @delphimichaels164 Před 4 lety +3

      He was king for a bit so he had resources.

  • @lonewolfgamingplus379
    @lonewolfgamingplus379 Před 6 lety +716

    The CGI looks (in my opinion) so bad here, it looks like PS3 game. I really wanted a Creed style final battle between T'challa and Killmonger in where they both have Black Panther suits and they engage in a fist fight like true warriors not this overblown, CGI mess. Don't care about Disney coming in and saying "that's too bloody, too violence" because shooting people and seeing a building blow up in Civil War is okay with them.

    • @JohnSmith-pe6wo
      @JohnSmith-pe6wo Před 6 lety +4

      Lennie Binale not and you do no that ps3 graphics are awesome?

    • @Minecraftlover581
      @Minecraftlover581 Před 6 lety +62

      You try and do the CGI then...

    • @lonewolfgamingplus379
      @lonewolfgamingplus379 Před 6 lety +34

      hunter holevas Oh no you should. At least try a 3D model i really want to see what you can do.

    • @lonewolfgamingplus379
      @lonewolfgamingplus379 Před 6 lety +2

      T. Stamp Agree. My stepdad even admits that too. And he doesn't even watch CBM's daily as i do.

    • @joefresh9675
      @joefresh9675 Před 6 lety +78

      You don't have to be able to make CGI yourself to see that it's not up to scratch. Other movies of the year looked a lot better in that respect. He's making no comment about the overall film, there's no need to take it personally.

  • @Lensbreak
    @Lensbreak Před 6 lety +25

    1:35 why do they have a block with some fire on it? what is it for? as reference of the scale of the fire?

    • @ThatWarioGiant
      @ThatWarioGiant Před 6 lety +1

      Lensbreak Studios yes

    • @rohanimations
      @rohanimations Před 4 lety +6

      I’m two years late to replying but my guess would be lighting reference for the digital fire and maybe wind direction?

    • @mothspaces
      @mothspaces Před 3 lety

      We don't question things

  • @ratedE
    @ratedE Před 6 lety +36

    Tbh I don’t think the CGI on most vehicle scenes were done correctly with shadows and textures :) but great film overall

    • @venim3404
      @venim3404 Před 6 lety +1

      Exactly movie was great overall but the terrible cgi kinda ruined the flow of the movie

    • @j.moon98
      @j.moon98 Před 6 lety

      I love the movie but I agree with you especially with the Space Bugatti at the last scene.

  • @isaacgrenierd.l.681
    @isaacgrenierd.l.681 Před 6 lety +5

    2:44 when your classmates hear you got chewing-gums

  • @ferdyhoshigakitube
    @ferdyhoshigakitube Před 6 lety +33

    If you watch Black Panther then watch civil war. You can see in civil war all the BP movement looks more believable.
    Dont get me wrong this CG is remarkable, some scene i cant really see the difference. But i just prefer BP movement in civil war.

    • @user-gk7nr6vn7g
      @user-gk7nr6vn7g Před 6 lety +4

      See, what you said is your opinion, which is cool. Everyone else is assuming things they know nothing about.

    • @winnywinnarts
      @winnywinnarts Před 5 lety +6

      DNTwtch THSchnnl um what are you talking about? The movements in black panther are very stiff and unrealistic, while in CW, it wasn’t, as they didn’t use CGI.

    • @user-gk7nr6vn7g
      @user-gk7nr6vn7g Před 5 lety +2

      @@winnywinnarts I'm saying that that's not true. The Russo Brothers' cut-y style allowed for it not to be so obvious, but in all the movies Black Panther has been in, his suit is CGI almost 100% of the time. Check out some of the VFX breakdowns for Civil War and Black Panther to see what I mean.

    • @saulloll8547
      @saulloll8547 Před 5 lety +1

      @@user-gk7nr6vn7g they actually used the actor (not sure if stunt) with a crappy BP suit and just traced with CGI so that's why CW had more believable movement.

  • @roberttaylor9259
    @roberttaylor9259 Před 6 lety +15

    I get most CGI but it baffles me why they feel the need to resize the heads of the actors to make them look smaller when the helmets are on. I know bobblehead effect but still after you notice it, its almost unseeable.

  • @JockMcBile
    @JockMcBile Před 6 lety +24

    While I loved BP, there were multiple scenes where the CGI looked pretty fake. I think this Effects House, was overwhelmed after Marvel decided to go with CGI suits for BP and Killmonger.

  • @wolfpack3689
    @wolfpack3689 Před 6 lety +10

    That's really cool
    "Wakanda Forever!"

  • @marquionyt
    @marquionyt Před 4 lety +5

    *Rest In Peace Chadwick.*

  • @gpoop23
    @gpoop23 Před 6 lety +5

    4:11 "That involves a lot of photography of them both with and without their suits on."
    Go on...

  • @Xshot12
    @Xshot12 Před 6 lety +7

    I love all the people saying “the cgi was terrible” like why don’t you do cgi with hundreds of small pieces and see how it turns out.. not everything turns out perfect and with all the cgi they had to do they can’t get every detail like other movies. You come here and say they do a terrible job at their passion. How would you feel if someone did that to you.

    • @Shazasterforever1
      @Shazasterforever1 Před 6 lety +3

      Surge I would take there criticism and try to add improvements in myself instead of sitting here whining about it on the internet.

    • @ThatWarioGiant
      @ThatWarioGiant Před 6 lety +2

      Shazasterman saying “the cgi was trash” is not criticism that is just insult

    • @Xshot12
      @Xshot12 Před 6 lety +1

      WarioGiant exactly

  • @WalrusisintheMatrix
    @WalrusisintheMatrix Před 6 lety +467

    IMO the visuals in BP dragged me out of the experience. Firstly, when you draw so much attention to the CGI with these unrealistic camera movements, like the exploding car shot and the climax on Wakanda, it's hard not to notice.
    The worst part for me is how disingenuous the landscapes feel--it's pretty hard to get taken in by these beautiful African landscapes and actors commenting "wow it looks so beautiful" when I know in the back of my mind it's all just been filmed in a studio in Atlanta. Obviously there's not a lot the VFX artists can do about that... I just wonder if it would be so much to ask for Marvel with their huge bucks to actually send their actors to a real location for once. The Norway scene in Thor 3 had similar issues.

    • @iTzKneecap
      @iTzKneecap Před 6 lety +48

      Walrus is in the Matrix
      In defense of Ragnarok that entire scene in Norway was supposed to take place in an NYC back alley (as shown in the trailer) but they changed it in post-production. Could've been better still.

    • @WalrusisintheMatrix
      @WalrusisintheMatrix Před 6 lety +53

      I heard that too. I'm not blaming the post production team, they always do a great job. But I just think filmmakers have gotten kinda lazy in relying on VFX teams to pick up the pieces, and as a result, sometimes the films are worse off for it. Landscapes seem to be one of the hardest things to get right, cause they're deceptively simple.

    • @eeweka1
      @eeweka1 Před 6 lety +3

      Walrus is in the Matrix as a fan of the movie, I totally agree with you.

    • @jameslamb7197
      @jameslamb7197 Před 6 lety +8

      I thought the same. It really bugged me more than it should have but the CGI used for fight scenes were really off.

    • @rachkate76
      @rachkate76 Před 6 lety +1

      Walrus is in the Matrix Finally someone said it.

  • @dhevamitradoshanmugasuntha7979

    Now, coming back to this video, I realized why a lot of the fights with tchalla had to be fully CG sometimes... and it makes me sad... rest in power King Chadwick Boseman🖤🌹

  • @eddiemeggs4018
    @eddiemeggs4018 Před 4 lety +3

    1:25 The audience already knew he was alive.

  • @koni00004
    @koni00004 Před 6 lety +3

    Wow, really admire the dedication and effort these guys put to bring this film to life. Great job👏👏👏

  • @shaanraza1
    @shaanraza1 Před 6 lety +257

    And they say DC uses a lot of CGI.... Cgi is necessary in superhero movies...

    • @shaanraza1
      @shaanraza1 Před 6 lety +59

      I meant the 2 universes... MCU and DCEU genius!! Understand the comment first, KID!

    • @alexisogbemudia5458
      @alexisogbemudia5458 Před 6 lety +52

      SHAAN thought it was pretty obvious you meant dceu but not everyone is smart

    • @communityEsc
      @communityEsc Před 6 lety

      It is VERY necessary, wtf do you mean?

    • @communityEsc
      @communityEsc Před 6 lety +1

      Also yes DC (DCEU) does use a lot of CGI. Take a look at many of their recent villains.

    • @shaanraza1
      @shaanraza1 Před 6 lety +2

      As expected, starting doing mother father... Haha.. so manly of you UFC MAN :D :D

  • @seasong7655
    @seasong7655 Před 6 lety +663

    WHAT ADOOOOSE

    • @NickMeister77
      @NickMeister77 Před 6 lety +17

      They are my crocs!

    • @joshou3759
      @joshou3759 Před 6 lety +31

      Three years later:
      Shuri: do u no de wae

    • @toiletsponge
      @toiletsponge Před 6 lety +6

      Kill me

    • @snitchbug
      @snitchbug Před 6 lety +9

      Those are my T’Chanclas!

    • @jarg8
      @jarg8 Před 6 lety +16

      seasong literally the worst, most embarrassing joke in the entire film.

  • @savedeion749
    @savedeion749 Před 6 lety +871

    Worst part of the movie was the CGI, that tunnel fight was atrocious.

    • @maxnovikov1537
      @maxnovikov1537 Před 6 lety +27

      Just Deion you cant do much better can you?

    • @savedeion749
      @savedeion749 Před 6 lety +76

      Actually I can, just ask your mom

    • @yesicollectwarhammerfiguri9473
      @yesicollectwarhammerfiguri9473 Před 6 lety +160

      Max Playz saying someone cant criticize something just because said person cant do better is invalid

    • @darthjoc
      @darthjoc Před 6 lety +31

      Yes. It was terrible. The live action fights look cool and i love the choreography in the waterfall scenes. But when the black panther is in costume its terrible. Especially seeing how good it looked in civil war. His movements especially feel like theres no weight to them. Theyre supposed to have catlike movements but they end up feeiling weightless. Such a shame cuz its a really good movie.

    • @eldritchagent9625
      @eldritchagent9625 Před 6 lety +8

      Marvel Films aren’t known for their groundbreaking CGI and Camerawork.
      They’re known for their groundbreaking ambition and character development.
      The story here and how it connects with the overall greater universe is what makes the film so great.

  • @TwoWheelAussie
    @TwoWheelAussie Před 6 lety +33

    Jesus! Imagine how boring movies would be without editing or animation effects

  • @vermilion4447
    @vermilion4447 Před 4 lety

    This visual artists are the one who brightens the movie in our hearts

  • @StoneOcean
    @StoneOcean Před 6 lety +79

    The only thing I did not like with this film was the end animations. Looked to plastic and fake for a big budget movie. Otherwise it was okey :)

  • @lauranschultz629
    @lauranschultz629 Před 6 lety +8

    Its so awesome that they can make this!

  • @ShakiraNae
    @ShakiraNae Před 6 lety +419

    This was sooooooo dope

  • @owentbreen
    @owentbreen Před 6 lety +1

    i feel like in a movie like this, no actor can be nominated best actor

  • @jhpk
    @jhpk Před 5 lety +18

    The overall CGI was great I think, just the last battle in some cave with trains were suck.

  • @mathiasvoorhees6232
    @mathiasvoorhees6232 Před 5 lety +32

    I'm guessing the last battle was made by the same people behind Resident Evil 1.

  • @CaughtInTheLoop
    @CaughtInTheLoop Před 5 lety +11

    So this is how they messed up the VFX in the third act. Interesting!

    • @danny-mb3pe
      @danny-mb3pe Před 4 lety

      The didn't have much time to render

  • @rafaugm
    @rafaugm Před 6 lety +390

    Below average CGI and way too much of it, it was quite noticeable while watching the film.

    • @JohnSmith-pe6wo
      @JohnSmith-pe6wo Před 6 lety +1

      rafaugm not

    • @MrParanoia
      @MrParanoia Před 6 lety +35

      Well considering most of the movie takes place in that fantasy place where Black Panther and the tribe live and the fancy high tech they have you would need a lot of CGI, I don't know what else they could've done without much CGI but if you got a idea how they could've worked around it I'm all ears

    • @mun123keet
      @mun123keet Před 6 lety +30

      RatchyGames The CGI for Wakanda was great. It is only when you get to the final fight scene in the movie as though as their budget ran out for better CGI.

    • @Jazz-ob3xy
      @Jazz-ob3xy Před 6 lety +6

      RatchyGames game of thrones, fantasy world but better cgi. I didn’t mind the black panther cgi but definitely could’ve been toned down a bit

    • @OneTwentyOver80
      @OneTwentyOver80 Před 6 lety +1

      RatchyGames did you watch the video?

  • @Jessica.000
    @Jessica.000 Před 6 lety +1

    The visual effects for this movie was on a whole another level😍💞🔥🔥🔥

  • @scorpion4031
    @scorpion4031 Před 3 lety

    Watching this one year after the passing of Chadwick Boseman certainly hits different, You will be missed. Rest In Peace Chadwick

  • @alexman378
    @alexman378 Před 5 lety +3

    The effects of the specific company are usually stellar. My only explanation was that they used most of their members in Infinity War, and they were left with the bare minimum to finish this film.

  • @ZDEyE
    @ZDEyE Před 6 lety +556

    I am disappointed in the Infinity War... Where was the Rhinos???

    • @nithinprasad2921
      @nithinprasad2921 Před 6 lety +73

      ZDEyE no border tribe , no w'akabi ...so no rhino , makes sense now?

    • @Gartard0r
      @Gartard0r Před 6 lety +56

      rhino now facing extinction #saveearth

    • @alienboi8397
      @alienboi8397 Před 6 lety +12

      did you really wanna see animals die?? of course theyre fake but it would've been still sad

    • @communityEsc
      @communityEsc Před 6 lety +25

      I mean, those were pretty poorly animated tbh.

    • @MRLONG758
      @MRLONG758 Před 6 lety +15

      Nithin Prasad there was a border tribe in infinity war. Who do you think the guys with the cloth shields standing behind t'challa was?

  • @CB_here
    @CB_here Před 5 lety +53

    The cgi was pretty good until the train fight, that was pretty bad

  • @chukanyanwu796
    @chukanyanwu796 Před 6 lety

    You guys are the true heroes of the movies , because that doesn’t look easy

  • @TexelGuy
    @TexelGuy Před 6 lety

    The killmonger suit forming CGI was amazing.

  • @sancheezzzy2712
    @sancheezzzy2712 Před 6 lety +344

    Going to be honest but the CGI for this film was lowkey trash. Especially the suits for Black Panther.

    • @nathanbruce1992
      @nathanbruce1992 Před 6 lety +24

      Sancheezy: was it this bad in Captain America: Civil War? I remember it being wayyyy better

    • @sancheezzzy2712
      @sancheezzzy2712 Před 6 lety +34

      Nathan Bruce civil war had better CGI than BP but I still disliked the CGI in civil war hence having a full on CGI airport, CGI spiderman, CGI Black Panther. I like having real costumes but it’s whatever.

    • @nolan1734
      @nolan1734 Před 6 lety +9

      Spiderman actually wasn't CGI, they only edited in the eyes.; it just looked heavily CGI because of the lighting.

    • @psychdraws6462
      @psychdraws6462 Před 6 lety +15

      Marvel was saving money for infinity war. You can see how good the cgi was in infinity war

    • @THEK1NGSCLAN
      @THEK1NGSCLAN Před 6 lety +8

      Cgi in Civil War was great, Infinity War as well

  • @haroonfarhang159
    @haroonfarhang159 Před 6 lety +300

    Ps2 graphics at 3:11
    Literally the worst CGI in MCU

    • @JohnSmith-pe6wo
      @JohnSmith-pe6wo Před 6 lety +3

      HA-R00N FA-HA wrongo

    • @maxim196
      @maxim196 Před 6 lety +50

      find me a ps2 game that looks as good i dare you

    • @ColecionaveisGT
      @ColecionaveisGT Před 6 lety +60

      Final Fantasy on ps2 has cutscenes that look better than that.

    • @kevensdesrosiers
      @kevensdesrosiers Před 6 lety +24

      Final Fantasty Cinematics and Cutscenes look better than some movies tbh

    • @ColecionaveisGT
      @ColecionaveisGT Před 6 lety +16

      Goulactic dared internet people so he had it coming.

  • @vivekrserleena
    @vivekrserleena Před 4 lety +5

    cgi people: we ended up putting full on cgi replacement.
    audience : yeah we noticed

  • @miss42310
    @miss42310 Před 6 lety

    My favorite scenes were killmonger's clothes tearing off and suit under and most fight scenes ...I was so excited the second time I went to watch...still love it when I see it...

  • @ericliuzzz
    @ericliuzzz Před 5 lety

    The difference between good artist and artist not that good is whether they make the artwork come to life.
    Good job!

  • @eniayoayoola1442
    @eniayoayoola1442 Před 6 lety +4

    What he said at 9:07 really sticks with me. Imagine pouring hundreds of hours developing CGI movie scenes only to see the movie fail 😬

    • @eniayoayoola1442
      @eniayoayoola1442 Před 6 lety +1

      Donte S
      I meant movies in general. Black Panther did very well 😀

  • @bruceU
    @bruceU Před 6 lety +65

    some of the cg in this looked really bad. like videogame render bad. studios need to try to do as much physically as possible

    • @PrabhablyAGoodYouTuber
      @PrabhablyAGoodYouTuber Před 5 lety +2

      Either the CGI looks video-game level bad or video-games has improved incredibly in graphical fidelity over the past several years.

    • @VanSanProductions
      @VanSanProductions Před 5 lety +5

      @@PrabhablyAGoodCZcamsr well there is a photorealistic expectation with modern big budget movies. with games we still can ignore a lot of things because it's a game. I think we are still 10-20 years off truly photorealistic gaming.
      I do think some CG can look bad because we don't have anything to relate to. Impossible camera movements and physical things that don't exist in real life can make CGI look bad even if the CG itself is well done.

    • @shivam.mishra7300
      @shivam.mishra7300 Před 5 lety

      What is more expensive CG or really doing,

    • @justrandom5012
      @justrandom5012 Před 5 lety

      do it better

    • @tripplec03
      @tripplec03 Před 5 lety

      @@justrandom5012 I'd like to see you do it better

  • @TheVivi13
    @TheVivi13 Před 6 lety +7

    Huh, the only CGI that I found really obvious while watching it were the Rhinos. They did a fantastic job by making everything look so real.

  • @user-lc8rt2no9b
    @user-lc8rt2no9b Před 6 lety

    1:53, my boy black panther got you with the circle game

  • @More-Space-In-Ear
    @More-Space-In-Ear Před 5 lety +2

    It’s come a long way since my time in computer graphics....it’s really a case of guessing if it’s real or not, it’s that good at deceiving our eyes....long live the graphics pen!!👍🏼😊

  • @louismahon6834
    @louismahon6834 Před 5 lety +4

    no-one:
    black panther: It's okay, if most things are CGI, nobody will notice when we get tired and make entire scenes CG animated.

  • @roentgen822
    @roentgen822 Před 6 lety +193

    Just came for the comments to see if anyone else thought the CG was trash.

    • @CakeMonsTv
      @CakeMonsTv Před 6 lety +13

      It wasnt all trash. 3d compositing is some scenes felt cheap and old time like people didnt fit into the scene. Like those fights on waterfalls

    • @gu5k7y
      @gu5k7y Před 6 lety

      Same

    • @armaanibrahim
      @armaanibrahim Před 5 lety +1

      R u a dc fan

    • @justrandom5012
      @justrandom5012 Před 5 lety

      yeah so dumb XD

    •  Před 4 lety +1

      Naah,If u can make it better,say its trush

  • @ShivamSPatel-is-on-fire
    @ShivamSPatel-is-on-fire Před 6 lety +23

    All these people saying everything looked like trash, I bet they couldn't do even a tenth of what the animators did. Second, they say it's all bad, but don't say how they can make it better. What's the point of criticism if you can't provide a reason for it? CGI hating seems like the cool thing to do these days it seems. Any comic book movie needs to have some level of CGI.

    • @Ayoul
      @Ayoul Před 5 lety +10

      1. That's a fallacy. You can criticize without being able to do better.
      2. It's better to just say it's bad or how it was bad than to assume how it should be fixed when they are not professionals.
      This movie had objectively some of the worst CG in recent MCU movies.

    • @juicypear3044
      @juicypear3044 Před 5 lety +1

      You no need to be good to criticize lol. You can criticize as a audience as the movie is made for us to watch and we have our opinions...

  • @DavidSaintloth
    @DavidSaintloth Před 6 lety

    Even as a software engineer this stuff is absolutely incredible.

  • @Racheldivaa
    @Racheldivaa Před 6 lety +1

    Love this!!! Movie production teams should get more recognition like this

  • @shadyrabbit007
    @shadyrabbit007 Před 6 lety +35

    Some of the visuals were bad tho

  • @Marcos94h
    @Marcos94h Před 6 lety +84

    When LOTR was released more than 15 years ago, with worse cgi but still much more believable and immersive...

    • @modarnwarfare2rull
      @modarnwarfare2rull Před 6 lety +23

      It honestly had better CGI.

    • @letsdraw8062
      @letsdraw8062 Před 6 lety +5

      Only at times. LOTR had lots of ugly cgi and the greenscreen is almost always noticable

    • @modarnwarfare2rull
      @modarnwarfare2rull Před 6 lety +24

      The worst CGI in LOTR is better than whatever was the train fight.

    • @lucasferreira028
      @lucasferreira028 Před 6 lety +10

      isn't it funny?even 1993 Jurassic park is much more real than Black Panther...Ok,Jurassic Park had the best visuals ever for me,but still

    • @MrGister9999
      @MrGister9999 Před 5 lety +1

      Derp Herp lmao that was one scene. The whole movie had tons of CGI it's obvious that they ran out of money.

  • @cookiecrumbulls
    @cookiecrumbulls Před 5 lety +3

    This video changes the way I see these movie has it is one of my favourite. I did not think this much CGI needed to be in this movie. Of course most movies have CGI and “movie magic” but this movie almost every scene was made out of CGI, I will still love this movie, they just should of died down the CGI a bit, it’s a ‘Live-Action’ movie and an animated movie. Just hope the second one has a little less.

  • @IR0NWAR
    @IR0NWAR Před 6 lety +1

    The special effects in this movie where overkill especially the subway scene, it looked more like a video game than anything

  • @ojeinoway6968
    @ojeinoway6968 Před 6 lety

    The waterfall fight between T'Challa and Killmonger was waaayyyy better than their final fight on the train tracks

  • @devandevan1403
    @devandevan1403 Před 5 lety +5

    Now I know exactly who to blame. Thanks wired.

  • @Nick-cy2tn
    @Nick-cy2tn Před 6 lety +192

    The CG budget for this movie was $58

    • @professorsir2308
      @professorsir2308 Před 6 lety +7

      Nick no only 4 dollars

    • @GhostscoperHD
      @GhostscoperHD Před 5 lety +21

      Yet the movie made more than you could in 348 lifetimes.

    • @shallowsparks3978
      @shallowsparks3978 Před 5 lety

      As if you are making that kind of money on a regular basis.

    • @ryanmadej6694
      @ryanmadej6694 Před 5 lety

      Oh just shut up aquaman was made less than 40 million dollar less than bp and still its one the greatest visual effects ever made

    • @spencerleo5126
      @spencerleo5126 Před 5 lety +2

      @@ryanmadej6694 i think he was kidding... he was making fun of how bad the cgi was for such an expensive movie. and honestly i thought aquaman wasn't bad cgi, but some of the big cgi scenes really looked like a 2010 videogame.\

  • @youhavenvrfeltawomanstouch9599

    whose here after his death

  • @JumperWC
    @JumperWC Před 6 lety

    Black Panther was one of the best movies in YEARS!!!

  • @SuperDuperWTFteam
    @SuperDuperWTFteam Před 5 lety

    This was the best Animated movie Marvel has done. Hats off!!

  • @minorking1121
    @minorking1121 Před 6 lety +48

    What a weird topic for a video when the CGI has been one of the main criticisms of the film. Drawing more attention to it is bizarre. Those Rhinos...yikes.

  • @salehsiddiqi4363
    @salehsiddiqi4363 Před 6 lety +5

    Respect.

  • @NorwayChallenge
    @NorwayChallenge Před 5 lety +6

    As much as I liked the movie, it depnded way too much on CGI and you can tell that certain parts were'nt given the time or budget to look good.

  • @wolfpaw4151
    @wolfpaw4151 Před 4 lety

    I watch black panther when I miss him the news just left me speechless 😶

  • @puschymultimedia
    @puschymultimedia Před 6 lety

    Visual Effects in Black Panther are incredible... good job Daryl Sawchuk

  • @wagerekairari393
    @wagerekairari393 Před 6 lety +36

    Terrible CG Imagery in Black Panther. Took the shine off what was otherwise a fantastic film.

  • @hypertendencies_
    @hypertendencies_ Před 5 lety +5

    Remember when Marvel released the clip of the final fight and everyone just assumed the CGI would get better?
    Oh boy where they wrong.

  • @perk3543
    @perk3543 Před 6 lety +3

    I have a cousin in Canada who worked on both the visual affects on Black panther and Infinity war

  • @ericreeves5893
    @ericreeves5893 Před 6 lety +1

    Folks want to hate black panther!! I see these blogs and a bunch of negative comments. Not hard to figure out why!! If you don't have nothing nice to say just don't say nothing!! This movie still topped some of the best animated movies in sales so who cares!!

  • @Protypemd
    @Protypemd Před 5 lety

    very good, I realize a fault in 7:37 left there are rocks with grass the scene cuts and back and the grass disappears and only the most visible stones remain