1:43 Little odd that he's treating what is clearly a Pietta replica that you can get on sale from a local Cabela's like it was some priceless museum relic.
As noted, the general consensus is that the Navy revolver gained its name from the roll engraving on the cylinder. Personally, I'm not so sure that was the reason. I'm thinking its possible that the naval battle scene came about as a sales encouragement because the Navy was interested in the gun. The roll engraving that Colt did on all his revolvers was done as an active deterrent to patent infringement. Very few potential infringers were capable of copying that roll engraving. So it was pretty easy for Colt to make potential buyers feel specially treated by engraving a scene that fit the initial purchasers. Regardless, that's a side issue. Nowadays, replicas are made in accordance to demand, and due to that demand, you will find 44 caliber Navys, and 36 caliber Armys among today's replicas. In actual practice, however, back in the 1800's, a Navy revolver was always a 36, and a Army revolver was always 44. The Remington 1858 model was a 44 also and carried the "Army" designation. Also, by way of FYI, the Colt 1862 Police revolver was a 36 caliber revolver built on their 31 caliber pocket gun frame (AKA 1849 or Wells Fargo). They did the same thing as with the 1860 Army and rebated the cylinder at the back - resulting in a 5 shot 36 caliber revolver. The 1862 Police should not be confused with the 1862 Metropolitan Police which was a full sized 1851 Navy with the Army barrel profile and was a 6 shot revolver.
The remingtons were certainly better than the colts that's for sure, but i would argue that the British adams revolvers and the French lefaucheux revolvers that were imported in smaller numbers by both sides in the war were the best revolvers available at the time
@@ronnyrono782 I have the same but a 44 what brand conversion cylinder did you buy? Mine was made in 2020 but I here some conversions have fitment issues I don't know what brand to buy?
@@kylianvanhoorn2859 I think Remington is best during war mainly because it's so ruggedly built. As a civilian I would go for the colt because it handled, felt so good in the hand. No weapon or bullet is the best answer to every situation as you know.
@@adonisdelacampa7057 I got the Taylor arms conversion. No dremel tools needed. The damn thing doesn't even have a cylinder ring. Which is amazing.( 240.00 $ ) Not cheap but with all the crazy crap going on it's worth every cent.
Sadly, no mention of the Colt Walker or Dragoon. Also known as "horse pistols". Because of their heavier weight, they were often strapped to the saddle. A cavalryman could carry 2-4 smaller, Colt or Remington pistols on their body and another 2 larger, Walker or Dragoon's on their horse. That's 36 rounds without reloading. Pretty impressive firepower against a single shot rifle.
+Slick Sixguns, Colt's official name for the "1851" .36 was "Revolving Belt Pistol". When the "Colt 1851 Navy" .36 first hit the market in September 1850, Colt originally was going to name the .36 the "Ranger". This was in honor of the Texas Ranger's successful use of the Colt Paterson .36 revolver. No one can be certain just how the name "Navy" evolved to describe .36 caliber revolvers, but it is likely that the Colt "1851" cylinder engraving commemorating the Texas Navy's victory over the Mexican Navy was the feature that the public picked up on in creating the generic name "Navy" revolver for 6-shot .36 caliber revolvers. "Navy Revolver" was a name created by the general public for 6-shot .36 revolvers, and the name was so established by the time Colt's patents expired in 1857, that Eli Whitney's 6-shot .36 revolver was named the Whitney Navy Revolver by Whitney when the gun first hit the market in late 1857. In late 1860, Remington also officially named their first 6-shot .36 revolver the "Remington-Beals Navy Revolver". The name "Colt 1851 Navy" was created by 20th Century Colt collectors; Colt collectors generally assign the date based on the first appearance in Colt Sales Flyers. So, although Colt's Revolving Belt Pistol of .36 caliber actually hit the market in September 1850, the first appearance in Colt Sales Flyers was January, 1851. This is how Colt's Revolving Belt Pistol became the "Colt 1851 Navy Revolver" to 20th Century Colt Collectors!
63DW89A thanks for the info but as you stated it is likely due to the commemorative engraving that it is named the navy doesn’t necessarily mean fact. Also it was called the Colt Revolving Belt Pistol of Naval Caliber (that speaks for itself as to what Navy means.) Also if collectors came up the term navy supposedly, then how did they designate the Army if it originally came out with that title given that both were used for navy and army service.
@@SlickSixguns Colt's official name for the big .44 Walker and all Dragoon Models was "Revolving Holster Pistol". The entire series was sequentially serial-numbered from the first civilian Walker model of serial number 1001. The first 1000 Walker Colts were made for the U.S. Mounted Rifles, consisting of the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Dragoon Regiments. The military Walkers were serial-numbered in "Company, Number" format such as "A Company, 155; D Company, 126, etc up until 1000 were made, at which point the civilian serial number of 1001 began. It was common for the public to refer to the big .44's as "Dragoon Colts" because the large frame .44 Colts were initially made for the U.S. Dragoon regiments. Judging by frontier literature and combustible cartridge packets of the late 1850's into the 1860's, "Army revolver or Army Pistol" began to be used also for the Dragoon Colts, beginning in the late 1850's. Colt's cartridge packets always carried the official Colt name ("Revolving Holster Pistol, Revolving Belt Pistol, or Revolving Pocket Pistol), while other combustible cartridge manufacturers, were using "Army, Navy or Pocket revolver" on their cartridge packets. In the 1860's, while Colt's cartridge packets for the 1860 Army were marked, "New Model Revolving Holster Pistol", other combustible manufacturers were marking their packets "For Colt's New Model Army Pistol". So while we can't be sure about exactly how the "Army, Navy or Pocket revolver" names started, we can be certain that by the late 1850's, six-shot .36 revolvers by Colt, Whitney, Remington, Manhattan etc, were called "Navy Revolvers" by the general public, while all .44's regardless of frame size or manufacturer, were called "Army Revolvers" by the general public. Frustrating, yet fascinating at the same time!
63DW89A so I get what your saying where I have an issue with the video is the guy states that the navy is so named due to the engraving on the cylinder. judging by what you and I are both saying even if we disagree is that that Statement is simply not historically true
@@SlickSixguns No one can say for certain, but is most likely true that the Colt cylinder engraving led to the public reference to the 6-shot .36 revolver as a "Navy Revolver". The reason that this is likely true, is that before there were any large contracts to the military (Army or Navy) for .36 revolvers, the name "Navy Revolver" was already in general public usage. So long before the U.S. Navy contracted for Colt .36 revolvers, the public was already calling the .36's "Navy Revolvers". At that time, there were no other revolvers other than Colt, and Colt's .36 had the cylinder engraved with the Naval Battle scene. The big frame .44's were immediately called "Dragoon Colts" by the public because the first large frame .44 Colts were built especially for the U.S Dragoon regiments, almost 4 years before the Colt .36 was made. While the large frame Colt .44's were built at military request, Colt built the .36 (and the .31 Pocket Models) for the civilian market, as there was no military request for these caliber revolvers. U.S Ordnance was primarily interested in .44 cal revolvers. In 1860, when U.S Ordnance became aware of and very impressed with the new Remington-Beals Navy Revolver, the Chief of U.S Ordnance wrote to Remington asking if the company could make a .44 cal version. Remington could and would make a .44, but it would take almost a year for full production, so U.S Ordnance reluctantly agreed to buy the Remington-Beals Navy due to the Civil War likely starting at any time. As soon as Remington had .44 Army production up and running in 1862, U.S. Ordnance bought .44 Remingtons almost exclusively, and military purchase of the Remington .36 dropped to very, very few for the rest of the Civil War.
As far as I know it get it's nickname from Colt's original designation "Colt revolving belt pistol of Navy caliber" (.36 caliber). For some reason .36 vas referred to as Navy Caliber and .44 as Army Caliber. Remington's slightly scaled down version of the New Model Army in .36 was also referred to as Remington Navy and it has no engraving of a navy battle or anything like that on it.
My great grandmother's grandfather was a cavalryman in the war, 29th Texas Cavalry(CSA) Company A. I wonder what kind of revolvers he used, and what happened to them.
@Chris Duke Pietta makes several of those now, and I believe they're going to be offering a Starr reproduction, I don't know if it'll be a single action or double action, or when it'll be coming out, their website only says Coming Soon.
No serious discussion of civil war arms can be had without a mention of the 1858 Remington New Model Army that was, without question, the toughest and most user friendly revolver of the civil war. Families were scrimping and saving and sometimes selling two colts or even an old musket for a Remington revolver because they were so hard to get in the first three years till the mass production tooling was completed. To start off, they were made one at a time. Their reputation of reliability against hang ups and jams quickly spread. Even after they finally got the Government contract from Colt they still were never anywhere near the numbers of Colt revolvers. That is why real authentic Civil War Remington revolvers are up for sale a lot less frequently, because there never were as many as there were Colts..
@@denisdegamon8224 I do believe that is partly true. The Remington was under a contract small but indeed a contract. When the Colt factory burned Remington made up for the shortage. Most all Remington revolvers were delivered towards the closing year or so of the war.
Yup and combustable paper cartridges were the main way the soldiers cartridges were supplied in pre bundled (6 rounds) by the Army Depots on both sides.
He calls percussion revolvers "muzzle loading." That's wrong. Does he not know where the muzzle of a firearm is located? You don't load percussion revolvers from the muzzle.
No Remington, Lemat, Starr, Spiller and Burr, Dance Brothers, Whitney, or any of the pocket pistols which are commonly seen being carried. You only mentioned like 15-20 percent of them...I personally, would re-title this..
Where are the Remington revolvers, the Starr revolvers, the Whitney revolver, the Adams, the LaMatt revolver, and the Lefaucheux, to name a few you did not mention?
I have been shooting Italian made reproduction cap-and-ball revolvers and longarms since 1965 when I bought my first ones, a .36 caliber 1851 Colt Navy and a .58 caliber 1863 Remington Zouave rifle. It is a crap shoot. Some are made good and some bad. In the early days there was little quality control. I am not sure what is happening today with that issue. It is too bad there is not an American gun manufacturer who would take on a project like this. Making these firearms again. I realize the prices would probably be high but I would be willing to pay for high quality reproductions of these military blackpowder guns.
Strange how the "expert" obviously doesnt know that paper cartriges were used in the civil war and that with these the loading process took about a minute, maybe a few seconds more.
I would LOVE to see someone shoot that Colt accurately out to 100 yards. That's just not true. The broadside of a barn, maybe. A man sized target, no. Even modern handguns are used at ranges of 25 yards or less. Nor were they routinely loaded with loose powder and ball. Paper cartridges with conical bullets were generally used.
This isn't true at all and a basic search will take you to people doing it. Heck my 36 cals I have no problem hitting a steel 12" silhouette target at 100 yards. But you are right about the paper cartridges.
It is true indeed that during the civil war era paper cartridges were used. However, I must disagree about accuracy. It is possible to be accurate with a black powder handgun, single shot or cap and ball revolver, out to decent ranges. I have seen several members of the black powder club make hits at 50 yards regularly. I've done so myself some times though I prefer to shoot at 25 yards with pistols. I usually only shoot out to 25 or 50 yards myself. At 25 my pietta replica 1851 colt is accurate, if I hold it steady. I usually shoot at a zeroxed pistol target on 8 1/2x11" paper with a black bulls eye 4-5 inches across. I can usually keep my shots with in that. And I have made hits on a smallish paper target (it was shaped like a woodchuck) out to 50 yards with my single shot kentucky pistol, whose grip is much less comfortable to me than my black powder revolver. This is shooting free hand, one handed. I am sure with practice I will be able to hit with the revolver out to 50 yards... I've only been shooting since the spring, so less than a year, fyi. Combat is a different circumstance, I am sure things are less steady and harder to aim with all the noise and movement than on a target range. But I have read that one of the reasons these old colts shoot high is they were 'zeroed' reportedly for 75 yards. I do not know if that is true or not but it makes sense. Our black powder range maxes out at 100 yards and I can cover that distance jogging fairly quickly. I imagine if the pistols were useless beyond 25 yards they would not have issued them to soldiers let alone cavalry who tend to operate out in the open.
You wouldn't be able to move even on horseback. At over 3 lbs each, eight of them would be over 24 lbs not counting the lead bullets. LeMatt's were quite a bit heavier than belt model Colts or Remingtons. Yeah, I did get your humor, just saying.
I have no idea why that nerd with the long hair is wearing white gloves like hes trying to preserve that replica from italy in his hands.. look at the gun its brand new.. even has the pietta stamping on the barrel lol
1:43 Little odd that he's treating what is clearly a Pietta replica that you can get on sale from a local Cabela's like it was some priceless museum relic.
Thats funny, I was thinking the same thing as you. The pistol looked brand new.
As noted, the general consensus is that the Navy revolver gained its name from the roll engraving on the cylinder. Personally, I'm not so sure that was the reason. I'm thinking its possible that the naval battle scene came about as a sales encouragement because the Navy was interested in the gun. The roll engraving that Colt did on all his revolvers was done as an active deterrent to patent infringement. Very few potential infringers were capable of copying that roll engraving. So it was pretty easy for Colt to make potential buyers feel specially treated by engraving a scene that fit the initial purchasers. Regardless, that's a side issue. Nowadays, replicas are made in accordance to demand, and due to that demand, you will find 44 caliber Navys, and 36 caliber Armys among today's replicas. In actual practice, however, back in the 1800's, a Navy revolver was always a 36, and a Army revolver was always 44. The Remington 1858 model was a 44 also and carried the "Army" designation.
Also, by way of FYI, the Colt 1862 Police revolver was a 36 caliber revolver built on their 31 caliber pocket gun frame (AKA 1849 or Wells Fargo). They did the same thing as with the 1860 Army and rebated the cylinder at the back - resulting in a 5 shot 36 caliber revolver. The 1862 Police should not be confused with the 1862 Metropolitan Police which was a full sized 1851 Navy with the Army barrel profile and was a 6 shot revolver.
I wish you had talked about the different firearms instead of just two.
I am a Fan of Remington 1858 revolver, this was and is the best revoler of the cap and ball times
The remingtons were certainly better than the colts that's for sure, but i would argue that the British adams revolvers and the French lefaucheux revolvers that were imported in smaller numbers by both sides in the war were the best revolvers available at the time
I have a Piata 36 caliber Remington revolver. I converted it to shoot 38 specials and I love it
@@ronnyrono782 I have the same but a 44 what brand conversion cylinder did you buy? Mine was made in 2020 but I here some conversions have fitment issues I don't know what brand to buy?
@@kylianvanhoorn2859 I think Remington is best during war mainly because it's so ruggedly built. As a civilian I would go for the colt because it handled, felt so good in the hand. No weapon or bullet is the best answer to every situation as you know.
@@adonisdelacampa7057 I got the Taylor arms conversion. No dremel tools needed. The damn thing doesn't even have a cylinder ring. Which is amazing.( 240.00 $ )
Not cheap but with all the
crazy crap going on it's worth every cent.
So nothing about the Remington? The very best revolver of the time. Or the La Mat 9 shot with a extra shot gun chamber.
John Dean Very disappointing to only cover Colt revolvers.
I agree completely
Agreed
The LeMat sucked ass tho
There are other revolvers out other other than colt?
Sadly, no mention of the Colt Walker or Dragoon. Also known as "horse pistols". Because of their heavier weight, they were often strapped to the saddle. A cavalryman could carry 2-4 smaller, Colt or Remington pistols on their body and another 2 larger, Walker or Dragoon's on their horse. That's 36 rounds without reloading. Pretty impressive firepower against a single shot rifle.
The navy term is associated with the caliber of the revolver not the engraving on the cylinder.
Navy=.36 cal
Army=.44 cal
+Slick Sixguns, Colt's official name for the "1851" .36 was "Revolving Belt Pistol". When the "Colt 1851 Navy" .36 first hit the market in September 1850, Colt originally was going to name the .36 the "Ranger". This was in honor of the Texas Ranger's successful use of the Colt Paterson .36 revolver.
No one can be certain just how the name "Navy" evolved to describe .36 caliber revolvers, but it is likely that the Colt "1851" cylinder engraving commemorating the Texas Navy's victory over the Mexican Navy was the feature that the public picked up on in creating the generic name "Navy" revolver for 6-shot .36 caliber revolvers. "Navy Revolver" was a name created by the general public for 6-shot .36 revolvers, and the name was so established by the time Colt's patents expired in 1857, that Eli Whitney's 6-shot .36 revolver was named the Whitney Navy Revolver by Whitney when the gun first hit the market in late 1857. In late 1860, Remington also officially named their first 6-shot .36 revolver the "Remington-Beals Navy Revolver".
The name "Colt 1851 Navy" was created by 20th Century Colt collectors; Colt collectors generally assign the date based on the first appearance in Colt Sales Flyers. So, although Colt's Revolving Belt Pistol of .36 caliber actually hit the market in September 1850, the first appearance in Colt Sales Flyers was January, 1851. This is how Colt's Revolving Belt Pistol became the "Colt 1851 Navy Revolver" to 20th Century Colt Collectors!
63DW89A thanks for the info but as you stated it is likely due to the commemorative engraving that it is named the navy doesn’t necessarily mean fact. Also it was called the Colt Revolving Belt Pistol of Naval Caliber (that speaks for itself as to what Navy means.) Also if collectors came up the term navy supposedly, then how did they designate the Army if it originally came out with that title given that both were used for navy and army service.
@@SlickSixguns Colt's official name for the big .44 Walker and all Dragoon Models was "Revolving Holster Pistol". The entire series was sequentially serial-numbered from the first civilian Walker model of serial number 1001. The first 1000 Walker Colts were made for the U.S. Mounted Rifles, consisting of the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Dragoon Regiments. The military Walkers were serial-numbered in "Company, Number" format such as "A Company, 155; D Company, 126, etc up until 1000 were made, at which point the civilian serial number of 1001 began. It was common for the public to refer to the big .44's as "Dragoon Colts" because the large frame .44 Colts were initially made for the U.S. Dragoon regiments. Judging by frontier literature and combustible cartridge packets of the late 1850's into the 1860's, "Army revolver or Army Pistol" began to be used also for the Dragoon Colts, beginning in the late 1850's. Colt's cartridge packets always carried the official Colt name ("Revolving Holster Pistol, Revolving Belt Pistol, or Revolving Pocket Pistol), while other combustible cartridge manufacturers, were using "Army, Navy or Pocket revolver" on their cartridge packets. In the 1860's, while Colt's cartridge packets for the 1860 Army were marked, "New Model Revolving Holster Pistol", other combustible manufacturers were marking their packets "For Colt's New Model Army Pistol". So while we can't be sure about exactly how the "Army, Navy or Pocket revolver" names started, we can be certain that by the late 1850's, six-shot .36 revolvers by Colt, Whitney, Remington, Manhattan etc, were called "Navy Revolvers" by the general public, while all .44's regardless of frame size or manufacturer, were called "Army Revolvers" by the general public. Frustrating, yet fascinating at the same time!
63DW89A so I get what your saying where I have an issue with the video is the guy states that the navy is so named due to the engraving on the cylinder. judging by what you and I are both saying even if we disagree is that that Statement is simply not historically true
@@SlickSixguns No one can say for certain, but is most likely true that the Colt cylinder engraving led to the public reference to the 6-shot .36 revolver as a "Navy Revolver". The reason that this is likely true, is that before there were any large contracts to the military (Army or Navy) for .36 revolvers, the name "Navy Revolver" was already in general public usage. So long before the U.S. Navy contracted for Colt .36 revolvers, the public was already calling the .36's "Navy Revolvers". At that time, there were no other revolvers other than Colt, and Colt's .36 had the cylinder engraved with the Naval Battle scene. The big frame .44's were immediately called "Dragoon Colts" by the public because the first large frame .44 Colts were built especially for the U.S Dragoon regiments, almost 4 years before the Colt .36 was made. While the large frame Colt .44's were built at military request, Colt built the .36 (and the .31 Pocket Models) for the civilian market, as there was no military request for these caliber revolvers. U.S Ordnance was primarily interested in .44 cal revolvers. In 1860, when U.S Ordnance became aware of and very impressed with the new Remington-Beals Navy Revolver, the Chief of U.S Ordnance wrote to Remington asking if the company could make a .44 cal version. Remington could and would make a .44, but it would take almost a year for full production, so U.S Ordnance reluctantly agreed to buy the Remington-Beals Navy due to the Civil War likely starting at any time. As soon as Remington had .44 Army production up and running in 1862, U.S. Ordnance bought .44 Remingtons almost exclusively, and military purchase of the Remington .36 dropped to very, very few for the rest of the Civil War.
As far as I know it get it's nickname from Colt's original designation "Colt revolving belt pistol of Navy caliber" (.36 caliber). For some reason .36 vas referred to as Navy Caliber and .44 as Army Caliber. Remington's slightly scaled down version of the New Model Army in .36 was also referred to as Remington Navy and it has no engraving of a navy battle or anything like that on it.
My great grandmother's grandfather was a cavalryman in the war, 29th Texas Cavalry(CSA) Company A. I wonder what kind of revolvers he used, and what happened to them.
@Chris Duke Pietta makes several of those now, and I believe they're going to be offering a Starr reproduction, I don't know if it'll be a single action or double action, or when it'll be coming out, their website only says Coming Soon.
Probably used an adams or Starrs revolver because the British supplied the csa
No serious discussion of civil war arms can be had without a mention of the 1858 Remington New Model Army that was, without question, the toughest and most user friendly revolver of the civil war. Families were scrimping and saving and sometimes selling two colts or even an old musket for a Remington revolver because they were so hard to get in the first three years till the mass production tooling was completed. To start off, they were made one at a time. Their reputation of reliability against hang ups and jams quickly spread. Even after they finally got the Government contract from Colt they still were never anywhere near the numbers of Colt revolvers. That is why real authentic Civil War Remington revolvers are up for sale a lot less frequently, because there never were as many as there were Colts..
Yup. The only reason Remington got an Army contract in1863 was because the Colt factory burned down and the Remingtons were alot cheaper.
@@denisdegamon8224 I do believe that is partly true. The Remington was under a contract small but indeed a contract. When the Colt factory burned Remington made up for the shortage. Most all Remington revolvers were delivered towards the closing year or so of the war.
Short and clear. Thank you🎉
These were called "pistols" at the time. Also, "Revolving pistols."
I love my Navy its pne of my favorites.
Thumb up for the documentary.
Question: did the Civil War armies really use pre-made cotton or paper cartridges to load these revolvers? Was their use widespread?
yes
Yup and combustable paper cartridges were the main way the soldiers cartridges were supplied in pre bundled (6 rounds) by the Army Depots on both sides.
Amazing!
Great video
Do more medal of honor videos
He calls percussion revolvers "muzzle loading." That's wrong. Does he not know where the muzzle of a firearm is located? You don't load percussion revolvers from the muzzle.
colt army model 1860, "accurate up to 100 yards". Absolutely RIDICULOUS. Stop smoking crack.🙄
No Remington, Lemat, Starr, Spiller and Burr, Dance Brothers, Whitney, or any of the pocket pistols which are commonly seen being carried. You only mentioned like 15-20 percent of them...I personally, would re-title this..
What about the Remington revolvers and the other handguns that were used?
Where are the Remington revolvers, the Starr revolvers, the Whitney revolver, the Adams, the LaMatt revolver, and the Lefaucheux, to name a few you did not mention?
This gun was key to Col. John Mosby's partisan rangers.
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Ohh yeahhh
I guess changing the percussion caps. Wasn't needed
You rule so hard for this
Epic vídeo
what about remington, starr, baumont adams, tranter etc?
The Engineer of Remingtons 1858. Later worked for Colt. And was the inventor who invented Colts .1873 Colt Peace Maker !
This man is linked to the man who shot lincoln
I have been shooting Italian made reproduction cap-and-ball revolvers and longarms since 1965 when I bought my first ones, a .36 caliber 1851 Colt Navy and a .58 caliber 1863 Remington Zouave rifle. It is a crap shoot. Some are made good and some bad. In the early days there was little quality control. I am not sure what is happening today with that issue. It is too bad there is not an American gun manufacturer who would take on a project like this. Making these firearms again. I realize the prices would probably be high but I would be willing to pay for high quality reproductions of these military blackpowder guns.
Strange how the "expert" obviously doesnt know that paper cartriges were used in the civil war and that with these the loading process took about a minute, maybe a few seconds more.
Why you wearing gloves on a umberti
LOL
Black powder matters! 🇺🇸
No Adams revolvers?
Deep voice and fancy music that's all.
Bloody bill and six of his men had32 pistols on them
2 revolvers, both colts, from The Civil war"s plethora of examples? Pitiful as a treats on the subject
This is a rather ratchet documentary…talked about 1 revolver.
Bullocks
Manhattan navy series 3
I would LOVE to see someone shoot that Colt accurately out to 100 yards. That's just not true. The broadside of a barn, maybe. A man sized target, no. Even modern handguns are used at ranges of 25 yards or less. Nor were they routinely loaded with loose powder and ball. Paper cartridges with conical bullets were generally used.
This isn't true at all and a basic search will take you to people doing it. Heck my 36 cals I have no problem hitting a steel 12" silhouette target at 100 yards. But you are right about the paper cartridges.
@@Stopsign32v Love to see a video of you doing that.
It Is a "poor" mechanic that "blames" his TOOLS!! I can routinely HIT 8" steel plate @ 50 yds with .22LR pistol!!
It is true indeed that during the civil war era paper cartridges were used. However, I must disagree about accuracy. It is possible to be accurate with a black powder handgun, single shot or cap and ball revolver, out to decent ranges. I have seen several members of the black powder club make hits at 50 yards regularly. I've done so myself some times though I prefer to shoot at 25 yards with pistols. I usually only shoot out to 25 or 50 yards myself. At 25 my pietta replica 1851 colt is accurate, if I hold it steady. I usually shoot at a zeroxed pistol target on 8 1/2x11" paper with a black bulls eye 4-5 inches across. I can usually keep my shots with in that. And I have made hits on a smallish paper target (it was shaped like a woodchuck) out to 50 yards with my single shot kentucky pistol, whose grip is much less comfortable to me than my black powder revolver. This is shooting free hand, one handed. I am sure with practice I will be able to hit with the revolver out to 50 yards... I've only been shooting since the spring, so less than a year, fyi.
Combat is a different circumstance, I am sure things are less steady and harder to aim with all the noise and movement than on a target range. But I have read that one of the reasons these old colts shoot high is they were 'zeroed' reportedly for 75 yards. I do not know if that is true or not but it makes sense. Our black powder range maxes out at 100 yards and I can cover that distance jogging fairly quickly. I imagine if the pistols were useless beyond 25 yards they would not have issued them to soldiers let alone cavalry who tend to operate out in the open.
Give me a horse and 8 loaded lamants before a charge
You wouldn't be able to move even on horseback. At over 3 lbs each, eight of them would be over 24 lbs not counting the lead bullets.
LeMatt's were quite a bit heavier than belt model Colts or Remingtons.
Yeah, I did get your humor, just saying.
@@denisdegamon8224 you obviously haven't heard of rebel cav carrying multiple pistols.
@@denisdegamon8224 look up bloody bill. Each man had multiple pistols
@@enlightenedwarrior7119Nobody...but NOBODY...carried 8 loaded LeMats into battle back then. Sorry fella.
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I have no idea why that nerd with the long hair is wearing white gloves like hes trying to preserve that replica from italy in his hands.. look at the gun its brand new.. even has the pietta stamping on the barrel lol