Is Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Still Good? - IMPLANTgames
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In today’s video I dive in and take a look to see if Sonic the Hedgehog 2 on the Sega Genesis is still good. Enjoy! - Hry
Before watching this video, HELL YEAH.
After watching this video, STILL HELL YEAH!!
Yip!
Fantastic review, man. You're getting really good at making these.
Thank you, I appreciate that :)
implantgames my dude you forgot to mention super sonic game play
the ideas are endless
I had no idea about that secret in Chemical plant. Nice review.
Thanks man!
I only found out about that shortcut last year! but when i went to try and find it recently in the excelent android port id completly forgotten where it was. Still to this day Sonic 2 is till suprising me with new routes, hidden rings, items and areas in a way that no othere game ever has
that chemical plant secret path blew my mind
Freddie Sandifer me too
I had never known that it was there and I have beaten Sonic 2 countless times.
I truly miss Implant and his excellent Genesis analysis videos. His "Is It Still Good" series featuring the Sonic and Disney analysis videos (particularly Toy Story) are what inspired me to fully fall in love with the console, thanks to his excellent editing and perfectly written criticisms.
I love this game. My brother and I would play this game all the time. Still remember when we beat it for the first time had 20+ lives and beat it with 2 left. We even taped it lol
Haha, that is awesome :D I know I did use a VCR to record footage once when I was young, but I don't remember what game or why I did it.
I am pleased to find someone else who really has paid attention to Sonic 2's shortcomings and considers the game to still be a fantastic experience, yet not the masterpiece that people would hype it up to be in years pass. As a kid you don't really pay as much attention to stuff like how a game is designed and how it guides players through while still providing a fair challenge...I love how in-depth and detailed these reviews are, too, looking into and explaining to viewers your observations not only on what factors in a game effect its overall quality and difficulty, like enemy placement and behavior, but also how well or sloppily said factors can be implemented in a game that may also make or break a game's enjoyability as well, and these are honestly some of the best review videos that really excel when it comes to that sort of thing. Again, real careful and observant points are made here, great job!!
Wtf? Ok. This game is still a masterpiece
@@raedvalenzuela5085 Agreed 200%
Fun fact: This is my 1st game I ever played. What a wonderful experience!
This was not the first game I ever played, but is the first Sonic game I've ever played. So good :)
My first games was Sonic 2, Roadrash and Altered beast...Im not sure which one i actually played 1st though... probaly Sonic 2
Same 😄
The Genesis games still hold up really well (minus Sonic 3D Blast). I still play 1, 2 and Sonic 3 and Knuckles every now and then.
What about DR roBoTniKS mEAn BEAN MacHINE
I love Sonic the Hedgehog 2. In particular, Knuckles the Echidna in Sonic the Hedgehog 2 is my favorite Sonic game of all time, and one of my favorite games of all time.
Brilliant, honest detailed review. It's amazing how many things that you take into account such as knuckles retaining rings after special stages or being able to avoid all water in aquatic ruin. Very good review.
Just found this channel and have been binge watching. I love your content man, keep it up!!
Glad to hear it, thanks! Just be careful, the further back you go through the library...
@@implantgames i hope you noticed that your speech pattern in this video is very weird. the last three words in almost every sentence is overpronounced like you're mocking a news reporter, but it's throughout the entire video. i sincerely hope you speak more naturally in your newer videos
Some good points about enemy placement and behavior here. However the monkey can be hit before throwing if you're fast, and the crab in MZ can be jumped on, it just has a strangely small hit box (you need to make sure to hit it past the center of the sprite). The former is why I want to see Sonic HD released on more platforms since the higher res helps in some cases.
The crab's hit-box seems to change back to normal when his claw is retracted, it's just a really strange enemy overall.
Looks like that was a glitch in the original game. It was fixed in the iOS/Android remake.
Just wait for Sonic Mania to make everyone forget about Lyric and other lackluster titles and respect the franchise once again.
Right on!
To be perfectly honest, I don't care for Mania too much. But I'm still gonna play it regardless.
Only to milk Mania 3 years later
A lot of people think this game is overrated, well let me tell them this, THIS IS THE GOLD AGE OF SONIC, OK? This was back when sonic was great, there were so many good classics like this, sonic 3 and knuckles, and sonic CD. Also I really like this game
Very cool that you talked about Knuckles and how he changes the game! Also I heard you say you use a framemeister which makes me dig these videos even more (I also use one and love it) anyway nice work on this one too!
Thanks man! And yeah, the Framemeister is sort of amazing :) Have you picked up the OSSC yet? It's even more sharp, though the compatibility beyond 480p is a bit dicey.
I remember reading about the ossc way back but didn't realize it was available. I will check into it cause yeah sounds like it has like a 0 delay which is pretty awesome!
This is going to be random and maybe unwanted, but I just was feeling quite down today and super bored but then decided to watch some of your reviews again and have cheered up just like that.
And once again another fantastic job! I am curious if you're going to upload any more reviews since it's been several months since the Sonic game gear one, but I'll enjoy your other currently existing videos until then.
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 is most definitely a great game. There are several Sonic games I'd rather play, but I still really like this game.
great review. I'd love to see one of sonic CD
yea that's my personal fav as well
Sonic 2 was my introduction to the Sonic games when the family got the Genesis. I have played this game so many times back when I was a kid and I can still remember the special stages by heart and get all the 7 emeralds before meeting with Eggman for the 1st time at the end of Emerald Hills (not by sound test cheating mind you). When I realized this back then, now I truly understand the name of Emerald Hills. 7 Posts in the 2 acts and you got yourself Super Sonic... Love it.
Amazing review buddy, I love both Sonic 1 and 2 and THey are amazing games from my childhood.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
Me too.
4:51 Amazing close call there.
So much skill haha ;)
A 30 minute analysis of Sonic 2? Oh heck yes! Seeing this in my inbox made my night xD I really agree with most of your points here, it really is interesting to view the games from a modern lens
Glad to hear it and thanks for watching!
Your videos rock! Keep it up. :)
In my personal opinion no Sonic game has ever held a candle to the best Mario Bros titles, however, they were still pretty great for their time.
These days I find myself revisiting Mario a lot but never really picking Sonic back up. I think it's because with Mario 3 and Super Mario World I cannot think of a single stage I don't want to play, whereas with the Sonic games there's always some that make me go, "uuuuugh, I don't want to deal with that again right now."
It should be said that I was a big Sonic fan as a kid, despite being a Nintendo console owner. I didn't finally have my own Genesis until I was 15.
THAT said, I listen to the soundtracks ALL the time. Sonic 1-3(full) all have amazing music.
I remember as a kid really enjoying the special stages in this game, but these days I hate them. I think out of all the games, the special stages here are the worst. I commend you for your patience with the chaos emeralds.
I enjoyed the 2-player special stages as a kid. But as an adult, I find them tedious haha :) And yeah, collecting all 7 emeralds as a nightmare, specifically the 4th and the 7th, I failed dozens of times...
I still prefer the Sonic 2 half pipe. Sonic 1's special stage was boring and random and while the Blue spheres of Sonic 3 and S&K have a lot more depth to them, they are way too difficult and filled with some of the trolliest level design I have ever seen. The Half Pipe looks cool and you really need to memorize much less than blue spheres.
The remaster fixes some issues with special stages except it is still fairly difficult when playing with tails.
@@mikesannitti6042 for me,i like the S3&K special stages. They require timing,and skill. The S1 specials are random and almost nauseous,the S2 requires tooooo much memorization.
@@luisjogos821 I recall that i beat all the Mania blue spheres levels after a fair amount of effort. But then i tried the S3&K levels and they seemed like another level of bullshit lol. Also me and my brother were able to get super sonic in sonic 2 as adults in a 2 player game recently, so that feels more doable to me.
Great review and awesome video!
My all time fav sonic game ever! , second is S3+S&K tandem.
I played S2 A LOT with my brother, the 2P mode was the shit, still today is funny.
I recorded on my VCR when I finished the game, I almost cried, the tune in the ending it's so beatiful (Dreams come True - sweet dreams )
weird tip: I played in backward order (3-2-1), the S1 is the most hardest for me (because no spin dash).
Haha, yeah going back to S1 is weird without the spindash! Glad you enjoyed the video :)
I love how the footage looks it looks really good, nice and clean
Probably the best review of Sonic 2 that I've ever seen.. and that voice, like cream butter to my ears :D
Thanks man, appreciate that :)
I was kinda expecting someone to go like:
Implant: *Talks about the game being zones & acts*
Person: Do not cite the deep magic to me witch, I was there when it was written.
great review Implant Games! wonderful foilage! i'm guessing ur a classic simpsons fan!
Thank you!! I can say I've watched the Simpson's before I ever played Sonic, however I would not consider myself a super fan or anything. Did I make a reference?
He must be commenting on "foilage" that's supposed to be "foliage," but I don't know the Simpsons reference.
one of my favorite CZcams channels :D
Maybe Rich Evans and Jack need to see this
I've played this game for years and didn't know that you can control Knuckles. Great review.
Knuckles the Echidna in Sonic the Hedgehog 2 :)
Fun fact:
Wing fortress and sky chase were orrigininally supposed to be the 2 acts of "sky zone"
I very much enjoy these videos. Sonic 2 is one of my all time favorites and has a killer HD version on iOS right now. Hoping for Sonic 3 and K, or Sonic CD!
Sonic CD used to be on iOS, I know I purchased it on the Xbox 360 and absolutely love the improvements!
AMAZING review of one my favorite games of all timr
Very detailed! I can tell you played the hell out of the game. Still my favorite Sonic game, but Sonic CD is a close 2nd. I usually hit that last boss when he is walking too. You can hit him when his arm is at his side, not out in front. What abilities would you suggest tails have to make him play different? Maybe a short helicopter spin to give him a little float time on his jumps. Not too long though or it would be game-breaking. You may have repeated the line about "lost potential" by the way, unless my phone just messed up. I will go back and check.
Yeah, there is a repeated line... forgot to edit out a take and didn't notice while editing the audio or the video. Sloppy :D Tails flying would be an obvious edition, along with level design taking advantage of the capability of course. Something, anything! As for the final boss, I just can't get the rhythm down and attack him the fast way, I lack the skill and/or patience haha. Thanks for the comment!
Ironically people made a song and dance about the game being too easy when it was launched. I adored it. Days of my life in the game and I can still break a smile when I hear the music randomly.
The starfish things are actually pretty easy to avoid if you just pay attention...
I still play this pretty regularly on the Sega Classics Collection on Steam. I didn't didn't realize that version has no way to play as Knuckles as far as I know. Now I kind of wish I hadn't sold my original Genesis copies of the first four Sonic games.
Congratulations, the best analysis ever.
23:34-23:46
Why did you say that line twice?
It was two takes, and I didn't cut one out during the audio or video editing processes. I just didn't notice :(
I thought it was a glitch in the matrix
Yup, this be my favorite classic Sonic game. A shame Tails can't fly or swim (without a mod), but I like playing as him regardless. And the level design is inventive, without being a complete clusterbleep like in Sonic 3.
I'd to see a Mega Man/Sonic crossover game. Imagine Eggman and Wily working together?? Imagine a rebuilt, repurposed Mecha Sonic with some familiar Mega Man X parts.
I believe it's out their as a flash game
24:00 THAT marks the WORLD'S first ever DLC content!
oil ocean: too many ways to beat it and the sea horses can fly anywhere they want
metropolis: slicers and crab meats. all i needed to say
22:29 - 22:30 Also, when he puts his foot down while walking, provided you time it right, and don't release your jump button too early/trigger Sonic or Tails' variable jump height mechanics.
(As Knuckles though? With his lower height velocity ... IDK if this would work. I gotta try it)
This game destroyed my psychic and glass of my phone (that was chemical plant zone boss)
eww, the mobile version, touch screens and platforming don't go together, or touch screens and basically any kind of precision gaming, moral of the story is, buttons are better
Personally I don’t have an issue with the ‘cheapness’ of the enemy placements. Ultimately, 80s and 90s 2D games involve a lot of repetition and memorisation. A genuinely difficult game like Contra Hard Corps is unfair by design. You need to invest hours learning how to beat individual sections.
I grew up with this game and it is probably one of my favourite game too
I’m late to the comments. Really late. But this is a great retrospective, even now. Thank you!
The water section in chemical plant zone was he'll so thank god for that short cut
Sorry I meant to say hell
your wrong about death eeg, you can hit the robots belly when he shoots out his hands at you to also hurt him :P
@RockManLP yep, as long as the spike hit box isnt on it
First Sonic game I ever played. Also, Tails was the first character I ever played as (which is why he's my favorite).
There is one mistake here. When you jump into a goal post after an emerald attempt, your rings DO go back to zero, but every ring in the zone will respawn.
This is why it’s possible to get every chaos emerald in just Emerald Hill.
Exactly. It just means you'll be spending the better part of an hour in Emerald Hill. Knuckles makes this considerable shorter.
my favorite game of all time
My favorite Sonic of all time of course!. :)
I remember as a kid, I could play the whole game without taking a hit. I thought I was the best player ever. Then I found out as an adult that you could become Super Sonic. I always skipped the special stages cause I hated them and considered them optional. Turns out I've never even properly finished the game.
I feel like the mantises, crabs, and monkeys are all poorly implemented or placed enemies, but I've never had the problems with the octopuses, seahorses, or starfish that you've had.
But largely I do agree with this video. It's a fantastic game with a few notable flaws.
Any great clement would tell you that Sonic the Hedgehog 2 is the greatest game of all time
I'm not sure if it's the best, but it is certainly my favorite :)
Been playing sonic 2 since I was 1 still kicks ass today
played this game as a kid, was frustratingly hard i never beat it so cant say i have any fond memories of this game
Fun Fact about my experience with Sonic 2 and how it shaped my self-expectations when playing today:
Because I have played this game over and over for 24 years, I feel no shame in telling other seasoned Sonic 2 players that we all have no one else to blame when we die from a stupid mistake.
If you've played this game enough times, even though no one can play perfectly, you have no excuse for dying from poor judgment.
I still play it semi regularly. It's still great
It's a game I like to come back to every couple of years. One of my first true loves :)
implantgames I feel the same way as far as one of my first true loves. Wouldn't change a thing. Even the extreme slow down in 2 player Mystic Cave Zone lol
if you overclocking the Genesis, the lags are gone ;)
I actually did a co-op run through getting all 7 chaos emeralds for the first time this summer. I got the game for my 7th birthday. I'm 31 now. I was very proud of myself (and my brother, playing co-op) that we finally did this.
Sonic 2 is awesome as it improves the basic formula from Sonic 1 on the Mega Drive/Genesis and really gives him more spin boost to fly through the levels.
I would also consider that the only possible flaw with Sonic 2 was that there was no save system to save your game.
When you ran out of lives, you have to start from the start again or at least know the cheat codes to get back to the level you were before.
Sonic 3 fixed that issue with the Save System and in all due fairness, that is the only flaw that Sonic 2 has in what is a wonderful game and really deserves to be up there with the original Super Mario Bros series from the NES era.
How did you manage to survive at 4:51
Sonic 2 will always be good. It's timeless, so this question never need be asked.
but in my opinion,the special stagea sucks. It's too much trial and error,and Super Sonic isn't even permanent. Thank God it's a side,optional quest
I just played it and it was still good
:D
i love the newer sonics too, lots of criticisms given to them can be also given to other amazing games
But the old2d ones were the most consistent, therefore the bar's high for later ones as well imo
*It still exciting and fun to play even today!! Music is fantastic too! You can connect to Sonic and Knuckles cartridge to play a New character any body can pick up and play this! It never gets old! You hook it up to a hi-if and hear the rings behind you in glorious surround sound! It’s that amazing!* ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️
Hell yeah, it is. My favorite Sonic game.
You can get extra lives in Casino Night.You can get up to 7 or more lives at time.You do this by using the slot machine. I agree with you on the point of poor enemy placement.
23:38min: "a missed opportunity here" ;-)
Great review man, 30min flew by! Sonic 1 is one of my favorite games ever. Sonic 2 never clicked with me.. I really don't like the color-use compared to Sonic 1; it doesn't have the smooth "natural" look, way to many colorswaps with assets as well (weird digitized trees in the pinball zone, ugly "transparency").
Would love to see your review of Sonic 3!
Good eye! Also glad to here 30 minutes flew by :) I'm still torn on which game I prefer, Sonic 1 or 2. I feel Sonic 2 is the superior game, but not necessarily my favorite, and I'm not sure why that is. As for Sonic 3, will get there in 2017, no doubt!
Well I learned something new. And I been playing this game since it came out
Fuck yes it is!!! It's my favorite. Hoping like hell Data Disc puts it out on vinyl. Love the soundtrack.
Oh man, I would love these to be released on vinyl, that would be amazing :)
in my opinion it's the greatest game of all time!!!!!!!!!! I have never played anything else that makes me still to this day feel as wonderful as this game does, it's in all 2nd to none 😊🥰💯😋💗💗💗💗💗
Sonic 2 is the best sonic game and really the best one but I love the 1st Sonic much better.
I suspect many folks share those same sentiments.
Name one Mario tune that you'd listen to on its own, i'll wait. Chemical plant and Mystic cave shit all over anything Mario has ever produced.
I feel like the classic Sonic games have been the victim of some revisionism due to the "quality" of more recent games tarring the reputation of the series. Sonic Mania helped alleviate that somewhat. The original Genesis games are all still great titles. The first game shows its age more than the others but at the time of its release it was unlike any other platformer and it spawned a fleet of clones from competing companies for a reason.
Whats your favourite sonic game implantgames. Mine is sonic the hedgehog 2(with knuckles but i actually think the remaster for mobiles is the best once you get used used to controls on touch screen) if i chose a 3D only choice then i would probably choose either colours,generations or heroes.
To be honest, at Metropolis Zone act 2 I once ran in the beginning and when I noticed it, it was too late because I then fell in the lava and died. It didn't feel like what you said to me. 10:58
I thought I remembered Tails following you everywhere in this! Used to be a bit annoying. Was that a different Sonic?
You can toggle to just Sonic which I prefer. Tails really gets in the way in the special stages.
I'm sure Silver Metal Sonic is now called Robo Sonic since that's what he is called in Lego Dimensions if that's his canon name
Not going to stop us old farts from calling him Silver Sonic.
The game is amazing considering it was their second try and it’s crammed into 40 MB. I still revisit the game and it will be 30 years old in late September.
Born in 2003 and I own a genisis (Bought on my own terms), I love these games!
Haha, right on man :)
My favorite game of the trilogy! Controls feel so much better and the visuals and music of this game were marvelous (no offense to the other 3 games). It’s also really nice to have a better chance to get chaos emeralds instead of the pressure of getting 50 rings. 8.5/10
horizontal springs,as sonic goes vertical... jokes aside love the vid
I don't get nostalgia from Sonic games...mainly because...*I'M ELEVEN YEARS OLD* but I still love sonic games.
my favorite game of all time. anyone who already doesn't like sonic, and are gonna find the next target to slander, they're gonna look at the title alone and say sonic 2 was never good
I’m pretty sure knuckles has the same acceleration as sonic and tails. His jump is shorter but that’s his only added limitation afaik.
I never struggled with those starfish enemies in metropolis like that. Never liked oil ocean though.
Great video! But I gotta say, Sonic 2 is my least favourite main series 16-bit sonic. I feel the level design is too streamlined when compared to Sonic 1 and not as varied as Sonic 3+Knuckles
At this point, I am not really certain which of the classics is my favorite and least favorite anymore haha!
implantgames hehe :P
Personally i think its my favourite. It is faster in comparison to 1 and 3+k while still keeping the platforming well and not turning into outright boost. I think its balanced.
Jupiter James-Reynolds I agree. Sonic 2 is a phenomenal game. It's definitely my favorite of the trilogy.
This game is a timeless masterpiece
i still really love this game, i still play this on the genesis
will you review sonic 4 ???
I doubt it.
"However" *gets a recees ad*
Ive played it so many times that the levels are getting a little boring, but it's still fun. The most boring to me is Emerald Hill and Wing Fortress.
I would agree on Wing Fortress. Emerald Hill seems to be one of the levels with the most paths and opportunities to abuse the physics.
implantgames i just go through it so many times that its boring
but the music in emerald hill zone is great....
You didn't get the Miles Per Hour pun? :P
Sonic 2 was my first game on the Mega Drive and I did love it, but I just felt sonic 3 was superior in almost every way. S2 just felt like quantity over quality. S3 felt refined. Yeah it wasn't that long and not very difficult, but the levels were all very distinct and had more character. Plus the music! Need I say more
My 3rd favourite Sonic game.
Don't leave me hanging, what are 1 and 2?
Ah, I think you will be surprised...
1. Sonic Unleashed
2. Sonic Colours
Pretty sure that's a very unpopular opinion.
And if you're curious...
4. Sonic 3 & Knuckles
5. Sonic Adventure 1
6. Sonic Lost World
7. Sonic Generations
8. Sonic Adventure 2
9. Sonic Rush
10. Sonic Advance
Unleashed is very underrated. I really need to finish that one as I enjoy it quite a bit! Colors is my favorite, no doubt about it, such a lovely game!
+ThePreciseClimber why people hate unleashed???