Reaction to the Controversial Scene from The Chosen
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I also think a lot of people see God through human eyes and ideals. If there wasn't struggle, there wouldn't need to be faith.
Hebrews 4:15-16 (KJV) 15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as [we are, yet] without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
@@fernandomiranda9736 Satan dared to tempt Him. The world attempted to goad Him. He was not internally tempted by any such sin. It's not even a possibility.
@@CalebDekker Amen !
2 Corinthians 5:21 (KJV)
For he hath made him [to be] sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
I was just stating He put on the âLikenessâ of sinful flesh He had no sin to be clear! He understands what we go through is what I wanted to share!
Caleb Amen hey check out Brother Richard Jordan ! Pure Grace Messages!
@@fernandomiranda9736 Oh, okay. I misinterpreted the point you were making. I have heard other people use that scripture to say that Christ - in himself - was tempted. So, I wanted to clarify.
The Chosen got me to read the scripture for the first time ever.
You got yourself to read scripture lol
@AjReconciled Yes but the Chosen was the thing that God used to get me to read it.
That's the problem with Christians, I commented on Ruslan other video today my theory why more people are leaving Christ. It was in his video titled "you've heard the news but it's not what you think".
â@@FatalinvestingThat's fantastic news! I've felt the same way when I started watching the chosen probably about a year ago. I read the Bible more and my relationship with Christ has definitely strengthened.â€
Same. â€ïž
@@set_apart360 we made the choice to watch it but I know God is using The Chosen to draw people in.
I saw her with Toby Mac, and Gabe Real! One of the hardest concerts ive ever seen. Her voice is beautiful. Gabe is insane too. The 3 of them together blew my mind. I felt the holy Spirit moving in the building. I cried and cried multiple times
I think its just the no healing scene which is an issue for me, although I tried to amend to it recently... Yes, God can do what He wants to, but there is no record that Jesus said "no" to healing, especially to those who really believed in Him and possibly those who were close to Him.
I understand now that the Chosen is trying to relate these scenes with our daily struggles (to believers and also non believers) this is totally great, but when it comes to historical accounts and accuracy of Jesus, this issue is not mentioned, so deviating or adding more to the context seems like a mistake because we can't say for sure that Jesus said "no" to healing a believer in the scripture... since it is silent or not mentioned, we should let it remain that way.
And it seems like the Chosen tried to cram in these struggles into the historical accounts of Jesus.
I understand that the Chosen wants to add some stuff to the narrative but when it comes to Jesus and everything He does in scripture, nothing should be deviated too drastically from what He does which could contradict the actual accounts of Him we have today (His historicity).
If your goal is to show authentic Jesus based on scripture with slight deviations that's accurate to the context in scripture that is understandable, but deviating too drastically will make it seem that's a different Jesus. In other words, the show is fictional itself, making it more fictional will depict a different Jesus.
Thatâs the issue I have with it as well. I feel like itâs dangerous scripturallh to have Jesus do or jot down things that the Bible doesnât speak on. Thereâs a little more wiggle room with the disciples, so long as it still follows or doesnât contradict the historical accounts we have of them too. But I donât like the way some of these changes feel like putting words in Godâs mouth, so to speak. That being said, the chosen also never claims to be a replacement for the Bible and I hope it is just encouraging more people to read scripture and the true story behind it all.
Amen to that. I mean, this video says it perfectly towards the beginning, "create an authentic Jesus." The problem is that they are trying to "create...Jesus" and that is the reason I cannot bring myself to watch this show. Jesus is not a character in a story, He is our Savior and our source for His teachings and His words is in the Bible. Anything outside of the Bible is not Biblical. Having Jesus do things that the Bible doesn't talk about is just wrong to me.
Except Paul, one of the most prominent and well known Apostles, who begged God to take away his "thorn in the flesh" and God didn't because "God's grace is sufficient for Paul".
Technically speaking, Jesus did effectively "refuse" an immediate healing (John 11:3-21) when Lazarus's sisters give him early notice that Lazarus is sick. In fact, Jesus INTENTIONALLY waited two extra days so that Lazarus could die, so that He would raise him from the dead and showcase God's glory. The clear implication from the text is they asked in genuine faith, but Lazarus wasn't healed when they wanted....interesting, no?
Not to mention (Mark 6:5-6) in Nazareth where Jesus's healing/miracles are impeded because of the people's lack of faith. And as such, Jesus "refuses" to do things that otherwise would have been done in differing circumstances. And considering Jesus is united with The Father, don't even get me started on the OT. Either way, this notion of Jesus "always" healing or "never refusing" a healing is not found within Scripture -- irrespective of the reason. Conceptually, it works.
Personally, I theorize Dallas & co. are using Jesus' actions with Lazarus as a precursor to what will eventually happen with Ramah (resurrection in a future season). All of the doubts, questioning Jesus, all of it included just for a glorious reunion between Thomas and his lover. But either way, I think its' justified within Scripture both literally & theologically.
â@@yusuke5124I agree. It's not out of character for Jesus to say no to a few folks.
Just saw episodes 4 threw 6 tonight. Can't wait to see 7 n 8. Realy good
Agreed! Episodes 4-6 were much stronger than 1-3 in my opinion
They were great ..but idk John the Baptist ...the layout that happened with the first 3 episodes set the fone for the next 3 â@@yusuke5124
I love her! Such a beautiful voice from God
Who is this?
@@ashleychristine-ld3yj Terrian - A Christian Singer & Artist
For those saying blasphemy as Jesus never refused to heal anybody in his earthly ministry, is there a bible passage or church tradition covering that? If so can you give the reference that would be helpful. I've seen comments below that any lack of healing now is due to the person's lack of faith, I'm guessing you're very young people who haven't yet experienced serious life ending illnesses in friends or family members who were faith filled Christians to the end who've died. Those kind of comments can lead to people losing faith in God altogether when life hits hard.
Christians are born of the word it says in Peter. If itâs in the Word then itâs our inheritance as believers and children of God. There are many promises for healing in scripture. Life is real and it hurts when the enemy/sin/sickness touch us on a personal level, but the Word of God remains faithful and true. I find that incredibly Hope filled and powerful that God always wants to heal us. I find it much more disturbing if weâre having faith in a God who chooses based on his mysterious sovereign will who gets healed and who doesnât. Thatâs not what the early church believed, they trusted in Gods unchanging character as a good Father. Simply put, Jesus was the image of the invisible God and we have no record of him ever saying no to healing. So I go with that rather than human experiences. đ
â@@stewart_92That's not what scripture says. Just look at Paul who prayed for his thorn in his flesh to be removed, and God said no. I find it more comforting to know that God can heal anything, and when He chooses not to it's for our good, even when we don't understand.
@@shockthetoast well said.
@@shockthetoastwe donât know what the âthornâ was. People just assume it was something physical. If you look at the context around the word âthornâ and how it was used in the Old Testament itâs referring to people and more so a burden than it was being physically ill
@@kyeshaap2474 The Greek for the word 'thorn' in 2 Corinthians 12:7 is "ÏÎșÏλοÏ" (skolops) and it can refer to a sharp/painful physical ailment such as a stake, splinter, etc. Now granted, you could just as easily read it metaphorically, but the language is very telling & still emphasizes the importance of God's sovereignty. God is not obligated to remove trials and remedy situations on our personal wishes, although He can, as He sees all & knows all.
Iâm so glad you had this conversation with Terrian, spot on. Itâs hard as a Christian to not have God heal someone the way you wanted him to but thatâs when I look to Godâs sovereign plan thatâs not for me to understand
I think it was a mistake to create that scene. We already saw similar concepts when Jesus did not heal little James and when Eden lost her baby. I don't think that scene was necessary nor helpful, and I think it actually takes away from the real reasons for St. Thomas's doubts about the resurrection.
Agreed
I don't know, just guessing here, Dallas and The Chosen writers are pretty clever in tying previous episodes with future episodes, i.e. in Season 2 episode 3 the disciples are sitting around the campfire and Simon declares he will never forgive Matthew, and then we see in Season 4 Simon forgives Matthew. PERHAPS when Jesus is resurrected, we know from Scripture that tombs are opened and the dead come back to life, that maybe Dallas is planning on having Remah also rise at Jesus' resurrection?????
@@stevereason6931 yooo I didnât even think of that that could be possible
So appreciate this honest conversation...it's exactly what we want.
Hey I'm a fan of The Chosen! I watched episodes 1-6 but not 7 and 8 yet which i'm looking forward too! But i also have film ideas that I would love to share with you if you are available :) I'm an aspiring film director and it would be my dream job because I really want to tell stories
Iâm glad that the show tackles the reality that God doesnât always choose to heal someone. Thereâs no reason to assume that the disciples would have been immune to suffering loss even with Jesus present, because God just doesnât heal everyone. Thatâs hard to grapple with as a Christian. Knowing that He can do anything, but doesnât always choose to. But not understanding why doesnât change the fact that Heâs still our God of comfort and peace, and that He loves us. Theyâre handling all this really well so far.
Yahusha chooses not to heal? Where in scripture does Yahusha refuse to heal anyone?
The church does not believe in healing so they do not see healing.
@@jannaswanson271 Maybe read 2 Corinthians 12:7-10. Paul had some bodily affliction which he asked the Lord take from him 3 times, but God refused, because the testimony of Godâs goodness and power was greater as a result of Paul being infirm, yet still having the power of God manifested through him.
If you want an example from the gospels, take the people at the pool of Bethesda. When Jesus healed the paralytic there, He didnât heal anyone else, and there were many people there who had come for a chance to be healed by the water. If you want to make it about asking for healing, the paralytic He healed in that case didnât ask for healing. In fact, the opposite was true; Jesus asked HIM if he wanted to be healed.
There was also the time that Jesusâ own friend, Lazarus, died. In that case, He purposely put off going to see Lazarus when he was sick and only went after he had died. While not in the text, I donât see any way that Mary and Martha would not have been beseeching God before Jesus came to save their brother BEFORE he died. And sure, Jesus raised him from death, but he still didnât heal his own friend while he was sick.
The point is that God doesnât always choose to heal someone when they ask. Itâs not a matter of not having enough faith; in fact thereâs a precedent in the gospels for that: That instance where a paralyticâs friends broke through the roof of a house to get their friend close to Jesus. Jesus doesnât remark upon the paralyticâs faith, but that of his friends. For all we know, the paralytic himself may have doubted whether heâd be healed or not, but Jesus still healed him. So at the very least, itâs not necessarily up to the individualâs faith in Godâs ability to heal that determines whether He will heal or not. And any belief that purports that we can compel God to heal just by having enough faith is unbiblical. Conversely, thereâs plenty of biblical support for the fact that God doesnât always decide to heal or save someone from earthly peril. At this point, itâs a matter of whether youâre willing to accept that His ways and thoughts are higher than yours, and that Heâs still good even if He chooses not to do what you ask. It seems to me that believing and trusting that He has good reasons for not healing takes more faith than the school of thought that purports that God isnât compelled to move unless you believe hard enough. It actually seems to me that the reason why anyone would believe the latter is because they couldnât accept that God is still good even when He chooses not to heal. Thatâs a faith issue, as well as an issue with oneâs conception of who God is. If you canât cope with the reality that God says ânoâ sometimes, you might have to check your heart against what Scripture actually says.
@@micahmartin7759 â Paul asked for healing, expected healing but was told why his request was refused.
Lazarus was allowed to die to show the glory of Yahuah. If he had remained dead there would be no glory.
He didn't heal every person within His vicinity but He healed the ones who came to Him, the ones who asked.
Yahusha healed, His disciples healed. We are told in Mark 16 that healing will follow those who believe.
When the Apostles started following Yahusha they would say He was the Son of God yet wonder at how the wind and the waves obeyed Him.
The church is stuck where the Apostles were. The Apostles moved beyond, I wonder if most of the manmade church will.
@@jannaswanson271 Question for you: Do you not think that itâs possible that God not healing when we ask Him should not be taken as a âno,â and that itâs because of the testimony of people like Paul in this passage that we can know why He may not always choose to heal? Or what about the testimony of Job, whom God allowed to suffer without ever telling him why he was allowed to suffer so greatly? Jobâs testimony seems to tell us that itâs not given to us to know every, if any, of the reasons why God may allow us to suffer. Like God said through Isaiah, âMy thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways My ways.â Not everything He does is going to make sense to us. I believe that this must include how some of us are allowed to suffer, while He heals and delivers others.
How about if we focus on preaching the way the bible says, instead of us trying to come up with the our new ways?
And what is the new way?? I don't understand
The Bible is not enough
@@ThePennySavers it is, actually. If you donât think so, you should read it more
@@raphaelfeneje486 people talk about âartâ when the chosen is not very accurate to the Scriptures in some things. Or people want to trick others into going to a movie, etc. Humans have a tendency to think they know better than God and try to do different things rather than just do what He says
@@LeonC0704 Can you answer my question?? Where in the Bible does it say art is Demonic???
Ruslan, where can we find the full live with you and Terrian? Would love to hear your whole conversation
After watching Episodes 4-6 in the theaters, my perspective on Episode 3âs ending changed for the positive. At first it was mostly just shock, and then it transformed into anger & questioning. However, after more thought, I think where theyâre heading with this is entirely plausible for how Thomas is depicted in the gospels, and âifâ they end up resurrecting her later (as hinted by Dallas), which would be foreshadowed by Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead after ALLOWING him to die - this will be a very impactful, yet bold writing decision which highlights the difficulties of what it means to follow Jesus. Even if you still donât personally like the decision, which is totally fair, I would just advise patience guys. đđœ And ironically, my biggest issues with Episode 3 has nothing to do with Thomas & Ramah đ
That scene with Thomas was not authentic Jesus. In John 18, Jesus thanks the Father he did not lose any of his disciples. Keeping them safe was utmost for Jesus. Jesus looked helpless and he just leaves Kafni angry and distraught. Why waste so much time on an unbiblical story when there is so much rich and true material in the Gospels??
To be fair, that portion of the prayer in John 17 is specifically referring to the 12 disciples/apostles -- which is only reiterated by the specificity in v:20-23 which applies to ALL who come to believe in His name. With that in mind, we know for a fact that God allows painful things to happen to His followers for His purposes. So yes, Jesus did keep them "safe" -- but that doesn't necessarily mean they were impervious to difficult trials, nor would it imply a contradiction in Jesus's character if He doesn't instantaneously heal someone. Which we know for a fact He has done in Scripture.
I think that if someone died and Jesus chose not to save them un such a manner that this show has presented then that would have been documented. I'm sick of the this show uts disgusting and so obviously anti Jesus and so many people are running to it as Gospel and won't even open the Bible it self and come to know The real Jesus Christ. Not this image they want. 2 commandant issue all through this filth. God bless these poor people.
@@ashleychristine-ld3yj A few things:
1. If people believe that The Chosen, a fictional historical drama, actually âisâ or meant to replace The Bible, thatâs their problem.
2. Scripture has recorded Jesus & The Father doing things âlikeâ this before, (I mean itâs virtually the exact same scenario with Lazarus) and the theology matches well. So itâs entirely plausible from a literary/artistic lens.
3. Obviously whatâs depicted in The Chosen, particularly the extra-biblical content isnât necessarily historical fact, so if someone opts to believe thatâs true, ahead of whatâs described in the gospels, again, thatâs their problem.
4. What about the people who DO come to know Christ from this show? Who have been greatly impacted by it & henceforth decided to finally open their Bibles to know more of The Word?
5. Youâre evidently hurt so I pray for you. đđœ
@yusuke5124 the director proudly were a shirt saying get used to different. Different what you might ask? A different Jesus.
@yusuke5124 Lazarus died for the Glory of God. For that exact moment. This was not trival it was pre ordained. And therefore relevent.
The Chosen has decided to have their Jesus be unfaithful. The only people he refuses to heal are those closest to him.
My Yahusha would not do that.
Yes, I was good until that scene (mostly) but it occurred to me when the Jesus character looks up. He, chose submission in light of his abilities. That was powerful
Something else I see as foreshadowing⊠I hope that the show doesnât make Judas out to be âtrying to do the right thingâ and duped into betraying Jesus. I see the build up right now and hope it doesnât make Judasâ decision empathetic.
And, I thought the scene where Mary was dolling out advice and Roumie was venting was a bit odd.
Again, Iâm just not as comfy with adding words or âartâ to what Jesus said as I am with adding a backstory to the disciplesâ lives.
Idk how thatâs a controversy thatâs just a fact of life. God has his complex reasonings for not healing people at certain times
1 corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I set aside childish ways. Now we see but a dim reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
Yo...the Chosen has been such a good series to encourage diving into scripture and reconnecting with Jesus. Also, it's so relatable. I think that sometimes we can read the Bible with outside-looking-in kind of goggles and don't realize that these were real people who had real experiences that we can relate to today. Tbh, I cried a lot watching in theaters with that scene because I just lost a loved one not long ago. The navigating through loss and grief is real and I'm glad that they showed that.
We should NEVER change Scripture to make it more "relatable". We are to align ourselves with Scripture, not align Scripture to us.
I agree we can't read the scriptures from other perspectives even the so called study bibles can mislead us. We have to read it without any predetermined narratives.
This chosen series is just more white washed/Christian false narrative. I didn't watch it, the actors portraying biblical characters are totally wrong... It's just more intellectual dishonesty.
How can the Son of The Most High be pale skin when pale skin was a curse amongst Isrealites and still is.. He healed others but needed sunscreen/artificial intelligence himself????
Anything other than the truth is an idol.
@@jannaswanson271 I agree. Also, I never said that I wanted to change scripture so that I could relate to it better. If that's what you got from my post, you're mistaken. I was relating to the experiences depicted in the series, especially of losing a loved one. I know that the Chosen is an inspired work of the Inspired Work and not a replacement. That's why I said that it encourages me to dive into or read scripture and connect with God through prayer. I hope that you have a better understanding of what I was saying. Then again, if you keep searching for a problem, you'll eventually find one anyway. Grace and peace to you.
@@daniebelle23 We stopped watching The Chosen after Ramah was killed and their Jesus refused to help her. That is NOT Yahusha. Seems like the people who trust in their Jesus in The Chosen are the ones He refuses to help.
I think they wrote that in because so many people in the church today do not see healing or miracles so they figure that Yahusha is not faithful. It makes me shudder!
Sometimes God says no. The fact it is not written in scripture does not mean he ever said no. They were writing of all of His miracles to show He is indeed the Son of God. I think it shows that when He says no He still loves us, He is still our comforter, He is just saying no, or sometimes wait. Of course we want it to be yes all time. But His ways are not our ways, His thoughts not our thoughts, as it says in Isaiah.
Making 'extra' biblical narration of Jesus is another way of creating 'another' Christ according to our own image .
You realize not everything Christ said was recorded in the Bible? And this show never claims or intends to replace scripture. There's alot of problems for Christians in the world. A popular show depicting Christ in a positive light is not one of them.
Hey @Bless God Studios, if you could reach out to Dallas Jenkins for me I have film project ideas that I would love to pitch to him. They would be connected to The Chosen so I would like to have his consent and approval and guidance as a film director đ
I love her music shes good i really love her song i think we all just need jesus
Iâm sorry. We donât know why he doesnât heal at times today. But in the Bible, everyone that came to him was healed. That is not an âauthenticâ Jesus
Matthew 8:13
Then Jesus said to the centurion, âGo your way; and as you have believed, so let it be done for you.â And his servant was healed that same hour.
John 9:1-5
And His disciples asked Him, saying, âRabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?â Jesus answered, âNeither this man nor his parents sinned, but that the works of God should be revealed in him.
@@shayalynn ??
Jesus told us to heal the sick. I think thatâs the thing Christians donât want to think about
The gospels do not record everything that Jesus did or didn't do. The end of John's gospel makes that quite clear. Just because the New Testament does not say that Jesus refused to heal someone does not mean it did not happen.
@@kwebb121765 no but what it does tell us is that the Bible could not record all the miracles because there were too many. The one time someone comes for a miracle and it doesnât happen is the disciples not being able to cast a demon out, and Jesus does it and says why they couldnât. It also tells us He couldnât do many miracles in His hometown because of their unbelief. It never infers whatsoever that someone would come to Him and he refuses to heal. Not even once.
Aw snaps Terrian..
My Buddy DallasâŠ..đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
I really like this young lady ? Us white people need to come together with our black Brothers & Sisters in Holy Christ Messiah âïžâĄïžđđđđâŒïžIT'S NOT ABOUT BLACK OR WHITE IT'S ABOUT JESUS OR NO JESUS
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We have to come together with ALL people. Without the blood of Jesus, we are all deserving of hell. God sees NO color. God sees the position of our hearts. God bless â€
There is no black or white in the kingdom of God , we are all one in Christ Jesus.
Born in 95... I literally never see white Christians refusing others.
I will say, I have been stared out of a few black churches.
@@SeanWintersthatâs your experience others have experience the opposite. Evil people everywhere regardless of skin color.
Yet in the Old Testament Yahuah did work through one nation and Yahusha was born into that nation. They are the natural branches and it is NOT modern Israel.
You should have her back for 7-9âŠomgoodness the Thomas heartbreak is overwhelming
I won't watch The Chosen because It doesn't feel right to make an image of Jesus and we have scripture that is not changed like a director can producing a show. It's also more suspicious that the guy acting as Jesus isn't even a Christian and neither are the directors and writers.
I feel like that scene breaks the character of Jesus. Isn't Jesus supposed to be an example for us? Is there any other place in the Bible where Jesus refuses to heal somebody? Jesus teaches us to be the good Samaritan.
Respectfully, I heavily disagree with you there Justin. In the gospels, Jesus refuses to heal Lazarus, and allows him to die despite getting a notice that he was sick multiple days earlier & Jesus INTENTIONALLY chooses to stay where heâs at so that the death would occur. Now granted, Jesus resurrected Lazarus from the dead later for His glory, but letâs not act as if itâs an impossibility for Jesus to ânot heal people.â And similarly, I believe Ramah will (eventually) get resurrected from the dead in a future season.
@@yusuke5124 I think her being resurrected would fix my problem with it.
But I think Jesus was showing us how the Father works with the resurrection of Lazarus. I just think they are treating the Father and Son as exactly the same.
I also think Jesus not being anywhere near the situation would have fixed it also.
Jesus couldnât do that many miracles when he came home
@@JustinSwell Well I respect the fact that you're open to adjusting your interpretation of the scene depending on how it goes đđœ, but after some reflection I personally find the scene a very accurate depiction of what happens in reality with many Christians. I don't believe it necessarily contradicts anything we find about Jesus' character in the gospels -- because to assert otherwise I believe carries some VERY heavy implications about God that I don't see how anyone could be comfortable with.
I relate it to when Jesus visited the towns and didn't heal anyone for whatever reason, lack of faith in the town, etc. And also, the Bible says people were disgruntled about it.
If "bad" things, i.e. trials, injuries, death, etc. did not happen to the faithful then everyone would become a believer. People would believe for the benefits and not as a result of faith. It is the trials that test and strengthen our faith. Hebrews 11:6 "And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him." And Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen."
Is that Terrian
Yes
Its our choice is why we aren't healed....
Itâs honestly just blasphemy. Jesus never refused to heal anyone plain and simple. Just cause in our experience we think âI prayed and God didnât answerâ doesnât mean we prayed with the faith Jesus called us to pray with. We have the commision as disciples to heal the sick and raise the dead. If it doesnât happen then we humble ourselves and grow in our faith, not question or wonder why God didnât choose to heal. He is Healer, period. Not for someday when he returns, for now.
Paul prayed for the thorn in his flesh to be healed, and God said no. 2 Corinthians 12:8-9 say 'Three times I pleaded with the Lord about this, that it should leave me. But he said to me, âMy grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.â Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me.'
@@shockthetoast what did God promise Paul would experience? What suffering was promised by God to Paul. Iâd encourage to look it up (hint, it wasnât sickness)
Matthew 13:58..."And he did not do many mighty works there, because of their unbelief."
@@randomytchan doesnât mean he didnât will to, it just means people didnât flock to him in droves like other places. He still healed the sick there
@@shockthetoastThe thorn in the side is always used in scripture to mean persecution, not physical affliction/disease. Use the law of first mention and youâll see that.
That episode was heretical on so many levels. Directly contradicts so much scripture.
Which one
Yup
Well there you have it. Canât watch the show. HealingLight has spoken
How does what happened to Ramah contradict Scripture? And which Scriptures in particular?
@@yusuke5124 because Jesus never refused to heal someone, in fact he promised healing
I can't watch it because the character playing Jesus is a Catholic and the Catholic Church teaches Unum Sanctum, no salvation outside the catholic church which means no Christian or any person that we were told was saved in the New Testament was saved..
Have you seen the Passion of the Christ?
@smcs A very long time ago before I knew anything about catholicism. I know, he is a Catholic and if he adheres to their teachings he would believe that over half of those who saw it are going to hell because they won't accept as equal to scripture teachings that Jesus never taught and won't submit their mind and will to the pope
another question I have is what about Jesus earthly dad Joseph, he didnât heal him also? Questions are good to think aboutâŠ.love your content!
It was not his time to do miracles yet
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Ruslan: Yeah, so tell me about season 4 episode 3
Me: ima stop you there, my good sir đ„Č
Agenda agenda agenda smh
Didn't even watch that episode and I got sad fr
Is The Chosen really that good????
For some reason my comment was deleted (by CZcams?) so I'm trying to post once more.
I believe "embellishing" for a TV show isn't a good thing.
It reminds me of the bible verse Rev 22:18-19: "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll."
You don't need to add ANYTHING to a television show based on Jesus that isn't in the bible. One of my favorite scenes was of Jesus and the bleeding woman, that is a good example of something from the bible that hits hard. It was well done. The scene where Jesus calls Peter onto the water, while good, made me uncomfortable. It kept flashing to Peters wife and her giving birth (this isn't biblically accurate) and it made me very uncomfortable.
Having said this, God can use ALL things for His glory. One huge positive that can come out of this TV show is it can bring people to open up the word of God more and read about it for themselves. We should be careful though, as Christians, what we encourage in our secular world.
Its funny though, how this "embellishing " has brought many to Christ and has brought many back to Christ, and has brought many back to reading the Word instead of just taking a preachers word for it!? You should look at the fruit.......
@@kmbn1967 That is literally along the lines of what I said in my last paragraph.
This scene is not Biblically accurate. Jesus has never refused to heal anyone in the Bible.
True, except for the times when he doesnât heal, because the people donât have faith.
@@brandonquan9127Jesus told us to heal. He never tells âhe will healâ, he always used terms that people âwill be healedâ. Itâs through our faith. If people donât get healed itâs not because Jesus says no
Respectfully, thatâs false, as Jesus refused to immediately heal Lazarus & instead intentionally allowed him to die (John 11:3-21), now granted, Jesus eventually ended up raising Lazarus from the dead - but to assert that Jesus never ârefused a healingâ is false. You also have to keep in mind the times when Jesus refused to heal people when the peopleâs faith were lacking. Also, keeping in mind the implications of Jesus walking amongst the sick & healing ONE particular person? (Now granted, it doesnât explicitly state that but one could reasonably infer that.) And, in the context of the Ramah scene, I believe Jesusâ words to Thomas imply that He will eventually resurrect Ramah as well, and the Lazarus sequence will be a foreshadowing to that.
Jesus does heal people & offer restoration, but Heâs never healed âeveryoneâ who asks for reasons only He would know. That message is true even today, which is partly what the show writers are going for.
@@stewart_92people âcanâ be healed through an increase in faith, yes, that idea is corroborated by Scripture. However, there are also people who havenât been healed or did not get what they desired despite having faith that it âwould happen.â There are times when God will say âNoâ, for one reason or another. I feel like the issue of healing is much more nuanced than some of yâall make it out to be, honestly.
@@yusuke5124 our highest authority is Jesus words. He said if we have faith the mountain moves. Biblical faith is evidenced by the mountain moving. We have to really be humble and die to our pride that would refuse to ever let the problem be on our end. Weâre all growing from faith to faith, none of us have arrived yet
What about Jesus giving them His blessing in marriage?
Will the cast of the Chosen celebrate Pride month?
Hope not because there were leaked images of their set with a pride flag on one of the chairs (like the director chairs or something, I am not a chair expertđ ).
â@@McSmurfysession 2 episode 2 title Two by Two a character says "love is love". I'm pretty sure something will happen
@@ThePennySavers Yikes, that's why whenever I hear people love the show or even see a new season coming out, it annoys me to the point that I just don't want it to have been made ever.
@@McSmurfyit was on the personal (not production-provided) equipment of one of the cameramen, who is not Christian. Dallas has stated that they open-hired and did not discriminate based on religion where cast and production staff are concerned-only writers and contextual advisors are exclusively Christian.
He also said they donât walk through and actively âpoliceâ everything that every staff member is carrying or wearing. A very zealous viewer happened to spy this 4â or so flag on the cameramanâs personal item during a behind-the-scenes real and decided to screenshot it and blow up their socials with the image.
@rivendells_shona I see, so it's probably out of context and people just want to make trouble? I still feel that personally I'll stick to the Bible itself and no representation of Jesus, as I've heard many think of the character playing as Jesus when they pray (that's troubling). It also doesn't sit right with me that that guy is a catholic and was seen praying to a dead guy to find peace (not right that they want to deliver the message about Jesus without fully believing everything He taught or is).
lol am I the only one that wasnât sad during that scene? I think it was interesting tying it in but I also can see how it deters away from the Bible as far as how things happened. Watching the Chosen is far better than majority of the shows that are out now glorifying sin.
Thank God Thomas was not married. The use of God's people that he can use anyone as long as that person seeks ye the Kingdom of God first which supersedes a marriage band.
I still find it slimy this is in theaters only right now. No updates on streaming launch either
Why? You can either support it (it takes tens of millions to shoot this series) by going to theaters or wait til itâs streaming. Its no different than anything else that hits theaters đ«
@@BlessGodStudios the difference is, its 3 increments of 3 hour sessions over a course of a whole month. Very VERY different from going to see a 2 hour movie 1 time
I stopped watching it. I think its a form of entertainment blended with the story of Christ and the Gospel. The scene they are talking about is that Biblical? Where he doesn't heal Thomas.
Just not interested in the chosen. Doesnât pique my interest. I look at chosen like I look at Christian rap and CCM. Just not for me đđ€·đœââïž
Idk just started watching the chosen, seems pretty accurate to me so far aside from the ethnicity of everyone including Jesus. Like Jesus was born in Northern Africa haha. We have went from blonde blue eyed Jesus, to Jesus still white, he is just tan. It is not that this fact necessarily changes the message itâs just interesting how we depict Jesus in pretty much all media
Most of the Chosen is not biblically accurate. Even Dallas Jenkins says 95% of the show is fiction.
They say it doesn't matter what Jesus looked like, but why does he look the same in all motion pictures? I want to watch the series but its hard getting passed its whitewashing
He actually has Egyptian syro-Lebanese background. That doesnât seem stereotypical white. Also, lots of the actors are of middle eastern background.
Jews are fair-skinned so it makes sense for Jesus to have fair skin. Many middle-easterns have fair skin as well, but probably Jews the most out of Semitic people because they always frowned upon mixing with other peoples. The only reason why some Semetic people are brown skinned is because they are mixed with Arabs who don't have as much of an issue with racial mixing and are themselves largely of Egyptian descent. The concept of Semitic people being a brown people is American-centric nonsense.
That's one issue. When people think Christ. They see the actor. It violates the 2nd commandment. It is a graven image. Jesus was nothing special to look at.
@@rogervincent2092 wouldnât the graven images have to do with worshipping those images as if theyâre idols? Youâre also calling a human being who is an actor portraying a biblical character a graven image. Atenta humans made in the image and likeness of God?
So I'm guessing you're part of the " they " that get bothered by skin color they portray Jesus based on your statement. Whenever you get to met Jesus if his skin shade is not to your liking will you turn your back and reject him?