All About Backpacking Stoves | ON Three
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- Jason Salyer and Alan Kay discuss everything you need to know about backpacking stoves. Although there are numerous stoves on the market, when it comes to backpacking this is what Jason and Alan recommend.
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Thanks for the intel
thank you for the video's!!
I'm a newbie (following your Channel for several months) - keep it coming.
Not sure how I missed this video. Good stuff.
I love your guys show
Always flick your Bic when you get the chance... great video guys!
Thank you for another awesome video! In the near future I would absolutely love to see some get home bag style stuff from Alan and Jason. I know Alan made one a few years back but I’d love to see if any new experiences changed some mindsets from those older videos on what to have with us during these very uncertain times. Thanks folks !!!
Hey basics are great, get these basics down pat and the rest will follow. Awesome video Men, thanks and Thumbs-up ~John
I love my Firebox Nano TI but wow! I think I might have to try that Vargo!
Thank you for the video.
I got one of those Bluu stoves. It has a push button ignition. It's pretty cool. It's a jetboil knockoff. Those portable biostove/generators seem pretty cool too.
It is so basic that you guys 👦 make it so good and simple, and that most important thing to me that its so simple and basic great job Amigos God bless you always and América
I primariy use two stoves: Firebox Titanium G2 stove and a MSR WhisperLite Universal stove. And with the WhisperLite, I mainly use regular unleaded gasoline!! And the fuel that I don't use goes in my truck!!
I use a little Swiss army esbit stove. The fuel tabs are cheap and lightweight and they'll burn sticks and twigs.
You should look into the gasification options they are nice even for very budget options
I carry both. Reason is if I just want to stop and have a cup of coffee or make some soup. I’ll light the gas stove. If it’s summer and I don’t want a big fire I’ll use the wood stove. It’s nice to have both options on you. But I agree with you for long term the wood stove is unbelievable
See ya on the next one
I love that Vargo Titamium stove. On Three did a good job on this video. I love their channel!
Jason and Alan are for real!
Thanks!!
speaking of revisiting here and there in your vid guys :) I am also one to explore making my own stoves etc for any dried timber leaves etc even charcoal or cube fuels here... I have been trying to develop a rocket stove type gasifying stove here :) so it should have the benefits of the rocket stove oxygen drawing effect also enabling the gasification efforts from any ( Carbon based )fuel being burned to also get the awesome Vortex effect from the reburning of the wood gas too :)
also designing a take down altoids sized wood fuel or cube fuel style stove :)
the "Rabbit Hole" runs very deep when U start getting into stoves hahaha
Thanks guys, there's so many options, that it can be over whelming for sure. The basics is what I need.
Might think about a fire box nano !
( comes in titanium - a little extra
but lighter ) they can run on almost
anything flammable - from wood to gas canister burner ( optional ) to charcoal to Swedish torch ( get the picture ?) It fits into a shirt pocket
( not too bad huh ?) ! It ALSO rous on a Trangia achol burner & solid fuel tabs ( w/optional plate fot it & has optional plate for burning pellets too )
I use a kelly kettle. Can't beat it, super light and I can boil 1.2L of water in a matter of minutes with just a few handfuls of sticks and it acts as a rocket stove that I can cook on and produces zero smoke
Just ordered a stove.
Fire box titanium nano w a Trangia is my go to. Esbit cubes for backup fuel and in bugout/get home bags. And can burn wood in when wanted or In emergency. Can even use a cat can stove or canister stove w it. These stoves can do it all.
I love the idea of a small stove. Lot better than building a large fire to just boil some water
What a nice video, my friend! Great backpacking equipment review! Enjoyed watching, very useful info. Cheers from Russia, man, and welcome to my channel about bushcraft tips and hacks! Kind regards, Yuriy!
Great job guys. One thing I like about the Billy can you used reminds me of the kit the Brits and Dutch use. The increased surface area will help it boil faster saving gas then the canteen cap (I use). I carry the pocket rocket and a trangia/firebox cook stove kit
I have a cannister stove but if we ever end up in a apocalypse situation it's not going to be a long term option so I wouldn't put it in my bag. A good made twig stove is the bushbox LF titanium. It's German made and it's built like a tank. It will last you for years although it is a bit on the heavy side. The hinged folding Lixada stove and the fire box titanium nano are also good options. Honestly if you don't want to carry the weight just dig a small hole in the ground deep enough the fire is not visable and circle the opening with rocks fill it with twigs and tinder and throw a dollar tree grate over the top. Pile your dirt over to the side to put it out fast. The twig backpacking stoves are more of a gimmick novelty item than anything you really don't need one ( although it's fun to have ) but you will need to carry a metal grate to stabilize your pot and pans if you plan to dig pit for your fire.
Question for that vargo or others similar to it like the lixada etc, do you notice a decent heat output towards you? Say you wanted a way to keep warm without a massive fire near your shelter, if you had to sleep with that near you in a tarp/poncho shelter, do you think that would provide enough heat to keep you going? I ordered a few lixadas mainly for the same reasons you chose the vargo for, but i also like the idea of having a mini fire i could keep near by with small stuff and having a low signature, maybe if i could bring a lightweight metal tray to put under it to catch ash etc, could even use it inside a small tent if i maintained a ventilation for smoke etc
What about esbit cubes? Comes with the little pot holder or can use little rocks to cut more weight.
The MSR Reactor is the best but bulky, limited to it's own pots, and $250. Stoves with a concave bowl shaped burner are very good in the wind like the MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe or Soto Windmaster. The $15 BRS lasts forever but hates the wind. Canister fuel, alcohol, solid fuel, or a wood burning stove all work. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
For my needs, the easiest by far is Sterno cans. They're cheap and can be bought in bulk online. By placing them inside of your home stove, you retain the heat much better, taking only one half of can for about 2 hours to cook 2 quarts of beans, rice and flour (1/2 cup each).
You can replicate the heat retention in the wild simply by building a foil windshield around it, or better yet digging a fire hole. 💡
When it's out you can stuff with toilet paper etc and pour alcohol on to start afresh. Even straight alcohol works. Yes that's weight on the run, but right now rubbing alcohol is easy to get and cheap. 🔥
I agree. I pick those up on the clearance rack at the grocery store.
Make your own. Its SUPER simple, even Biden could do it ( with Adult supervision)
You can order the cans and chemical off Amazon, get a ethanol permit, make your own for pennies.
@@bonnieswenson9925 I was thinking about that. I've tried using laundry lint and hand sanitizer plus more alcohol, it kinda works. I made a few penny stoves and they work pretty well.
Be careful to not inhale any of the exhaust from burning rubbing alcohol. Remember that it's wood alcohol, and it evaporates faster than the fire can consume it, so you have isopropyl vapor! Boy does it go straight to the blood stream fast when it's inhaled! It's like totally toxic dudes! You will get sick from it post haste, and only from a couple whifs. That's an only outdoor fuel, with no living creatures downwind. In the immediate vicinity.
Circle back to where?? I hear this a lot lately and never seems to really work
Pleasantly surprised with the titanium Weber
Amazing
I've been using a solo stove and I really like it. Its a tad bulky but no bigger than that fuel bottle, and I use a pot that nests with it. Always easy to find a few small bits of wood for fuel. Have you guys ever tried a solo, or have any thoughts on them?
We love the Solo Stove. Video has already been done. Should be posted soon. Thanks!
"Basic" my ass. Those little stoves get you food AND water. Can't call 'em loud compared to cutting and busting firewood. No smoke signal, and no unwanted folks smelling fire a mile downwind. Hot tea when times are good, and a well fed well concealed individual when times aren't good.
I LOVE what these knotheads call basic. If i'm well hydrated, got some food in my belly, got a warm dry place to nap, and a loaded mag or two i'm MORE than good. That's high class living.
I knew the camera guy sound like Alan Kay.
I carry both. The butane canisters i use are the 230g ones that are skinner and taller. They pack better and will last for a long time. To me speed and potentially no smoke is paramount.
I made a rocket stove frfom a metal can for free, and it works just as well as the titanium stove. I pack things in the tove so it doesn't waste much room, and it's just a little heavier- but it was free!
Who are the 5 idiots that gave this a thumbs down? How can you not like to gather honest information on a topic? Well done guys.
That's what I ultimately decided on for my go bag. Mines an Emberlit and a little bigger. The idea behind it was to have something that would allow me to build a smallish fire in places that I wouldn't otherwise be able to. Inside a building or shelter. Any abandoned home will have furniture or kitchen cabinets that can easily be broken down.
That's an original MSR pocket rocket. They dont make that model anymore and imo it's much sturdier than the newer ones. I have one of those and a bushbox in my pack.
What are your thoughts about refillable alcohol stoves? Like the kind people make out of beer cans. I bought a titanium one that does really well with a small draught of isopropyl or ethanol.
Can't beat he British army stove. We have won wars with it. You can't ask for more than that.
What about the esbit stoves?
Squaw Wood. Yay!!
Yep, that's what we called it in Boy Scouts in the early 70"s in GA.
That Vargo looks a good stable shape too. I hate having a pot teetering on a tall, narrow stove.
Where did you get that twig stove menny thanls
I'm pretty basic. Hungry thirsty tired every day, several times. I love my MSR XGK, which boils ice fast. White gas is very hot, compact, many btu's. The Snow Peak 2L pot has a vargo ti stove folded inside it. The vargo stove also focuses a candle or tuna can alcohol burner under your pot. Burning twigs when you can stretches bottle fuels, making the combo better. Nice review, thanks.
PaleoHikerMD has a lot of videos on stoves. you guys should do a collab
That’s an MSR Pocket Rocket. I have a couple of those in different packs and I carry several of the smaller fuel canisters in each pack. I know is a little added weight but I make up for it by eliminating some other non survival comfort items. I also have one of other titanium stoves in each pack as a back up.
Such an individual choice... and your needs and environment dictate your carry.
I carry a stainless folding twig stove, and a pop can stove with a small bottle of alcohol.
The weight is not significant, and there's a redundancy. If there is a shortage of twigs you can still boil water.
I can drip alcohol on my wood tinder too, if it needs an accelerant. The alcohol stove could be replaced with the gas stove as a individual preference.
The Vargo titanium stove has to be the worst stove I have. I really wanted to like it and over the past 8 years I've come back to it several times to see if I was too hasty in dismissing it but every time I find it useless. It is too flimsy for most types of pots and it will burn the ground more than any other stove as the gap between the ground and the Ash plate is too small.
What brand/kind are those pants you guys wear with the cargos in the front of the pant ??
Tru-Spec I believe. There was an old video on them
It’s True Spec Expedition pants. They’re awesome!
Sadly you did put ask / provide a subject to leave a comment. So I am just going to pick your favorite yogurt …… and Go……..
Raspberry. Duh!
😂 I love that flavor
I don't like the idea of having to carry fuel with me, it's extra weight and what do you do when you run out?
Jason always carries multiple fire starters. He is also very skilled with the bow drill and other primitive fire starting methods.
Whelp now I'm batoning with my head.
So what knife are you using at the beginning?
Dozier Tusk
@@ONThree awesome, thanks for letting me know 👍🏻
two way wood or fuel tabs basic is all you need anything you can use for backpacking you can use at home in an emergency this is common sense
No tater tots in those pockets?
Resupply is a major topic for either post collapse scenarios or travel in remote or lower infrastructure (third world) areas. MSR makes a Multifuel Stove that will run on a number of fuels from "white gas" (aka Colman Stove fuel) to automobile gasoline. This can make finding fuel a more frequent occurrence.
What are often referred to as "biofuels", aka wood and other natural combustibles, are far more widely available than liquid special purpose fuels. The problem with these is that not all cooking containers, folding stoves, etc, are compatible with them, such as aluminum. Stainless steel and titanium are the best all around choices with the widest range of uses. Titanium (Ti) is lighter weight but more expensive.
Often in a post collapse scenario, it would be better not to announce your presence if you are traveling alone or in a small group. If you are not careful using wood for fuel, it will produce a significant amount of smoke pointing to your location. Anyone "living in the woods", including homesteads and farms (I usually lump them together as farmsteads) will immediately be interested in smoke and investigate. This is a survival mechanism that sets off internal alarms, whether it is the possibility of a forest fire or a new human presence in their area.
Be aware in a post collapse scenario that you and yours are not the only ones that might be hunting, trapping, fishing, and foraging for sustenance. People already living in an area will be ready and willing to defend their territory. Every food item you harvest is one less for them and their family, clan, tribe, etc. Unless you are looking to join them and can provide a significant benefit through your addition, then you are an unwelcome additional drain on already scarce resources. Reading the book _One Second After_ by William R.Forsthen can give one a good idea of the post collapse mindset, as well as a look at the real challenges (horrors) of an infrastructure collapse.
Some people think they are experts in a day
Illegal to make a fire of natural material is relevant... Relevant to any law personnel nearby or not,the same as fishing for food without a license,or taking a deer for sustenance out of season or sans a permit..
All these items for sale... I like no haul, no purchase, just hole in the dirt Dakota fire or on site rocket stove fab. Too many creaters selling gadgets and fuels... totally nessesary
Great content... but, how many ticks and chiggers are in those woods...??? I don't think I would be laying directly on the ground...
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Unfortunately they are all made in China even the one that you’re using just my two cents