Jamesy NFG “a minute and seventy seconds” is 2 minutes and 10 seconds...and he wanted to make it sound like less than 2 minutes...unfortunately it just sounded like over 2 minutes, depending on how keen one is to bullshit...
@@jamesynfg But Your Comment Was Pointless Itself, You Are Aware Of That? He Clearly Wanted Nothing To Do With 2 Minutes Bud, Couldn't Help Making It 2 Minutes Anyway....That Was My Point...Yours Was Just A Statement Saying That He Just Didn't Say "2 And A Half Minutes" Obviously...The Point Is He Fucked Himself Up And You Think He Did It On Purpose...
Travis Douglas love IT when you explain something to a black man and he says : yeah but thats the thing, and then says something complitly diffrent... black people Are just like women, they argue about everything Else then what the argument is about
"What do you mean everyone's stopped always and it's worked? The best never stopped, they didn't conform. Why should I stop just because you say stop. This is joe budden, not joe shcmo, I'll never stop I'll never conform" P.s: that was spoken in 3 different volumes and 4 different emotions switched up randomly in the middle of sentences.
This is the creative process in a nutshell. I love this video. You know there's love in the tracks when everyone is arguing diplomacy and direction over simply writing out verses and dictation - no matter what genre of music you're working with.
Honestly this is one of the greatest conversations I’ve ever heard. Both sides have great points but I side with joe saying true artists can do anything they want and create their own path
Shakeal I feel the same way. It was honest, no saltiness, no disrespect. Just 2 men butting heads as men should. If men always interacted like this, more stuff would get done.
Shakeal not really tho. It’s very rare you hear a verse that’s longer than a 16 get radio play. Maybe it’s pushed on its own if it’s the right record in the underground like... sixteen by Ross and Andre. Which is just a phenomenal record all the way around. But that’ 7 min record was NOT gonna get radio play. It would be cut in the middle like the 106 & park days lol. So I guess it depends on what Joel wanted to do with the record. And sense it was his record. The decision should’ve been his
Live From The Motherland I mean ya the final should be to joell. I think joe wanted to make sure he wasn’t sticking himself in a box cause he feels he has to. Gotta challenge ur people to be great and not always play the game.
I love the longer tracks, Joe has an ability to hold people's interest (Joell too) with 7-8minute joints. But theres nothing wrong with having a kind of formulaic verse/hook/verse/hook track every once in a while. It's necessary to mix it up so that the listener doesn't get bored (and the beat to Renegade is audio cocaine)
6:48 "You tell Joe to go right, he's always gonna go left. Tell him to write a 16, he goes and writes a 32. Cause that's what Joe does." Fam, with recent news these old videos hit different.
S Chochotte ehhh depends on the song. Joel is right sometimes you have to let the beat ride for the mood that your trying to push. Sometimes 16 is perfect sometimes it ain't like joe is saying.
but everyone else was playing by eminem type rules. tryna make 3 minute records, tryna make traditional radio acceptable shit. and it didn’t work. with all the rappers in slaughterhouse they coulda had classics on classics. they weren’t for the masses. we want raps from the rappers.
Damn wish it was still like this seeing these dudes go thru what they going thru now is sad...I just wanted to go back and see how it used to be...! RIP SLAUGHTERHOUSE!
Why joell look like he standing in the door to his room getting yelled at by his mom
Iron man shirt included
Lol
😂🤣👏
Lmaoo
son arguing with his wife trynna get ready for work
Buddens wakes up and argues with himself in the mirror to prepare himself for the day.
micahT - 😂😂😂
micahT - 😂😂😂😂😂
micahT - he really do waking up mad.....
Lmfao 😂
thats funny
Nobody ain't peep this some good ass quality for 08? LMAOOO
KyFinesse real shit
Facts! 😂
KyFinesse right it don't look like it was 10 years ago
😂😂😂
Fax kellerman.
Only Joe would say “a minute and 90 seconds” instead of “2 and a half minutes”
Jamesy NFG “a minute and seventy seconds” is 2 minutes and 10 seconds...and he wanted to make it sound like less than 2 minutes...unfortunately it just sounded like over 2 minutes, depending on how keen one is to bullshit...
King David The Lucid Fire and you typed this for what reason? Pointless ass reply.
Just Pointing Out That It Was A Bullshit Tactic For Arguing, Didn't Even Sound Slick...Why're You Butthurt?
King David The Lucid Fire nobody butt hurt lmao. All you did was extend what my original comment already said. Your reply was redundant.
@@jamesynfg But Your Comment Was Pointless Itself, You Are Aware Of That? He Clearly Wanted Nothing To Do With 2 Minutes Bud, Couldn't Help Making It 2 Minutes Anyway....That Was My Point...Yours Was Just A Statement Saying That He Just Didn't Say "2 And A Half Minutes" Obviously...The Point Is He Fucked Himself Up And You Think He Did It On Purpose...
When sixteen ain’t enough.
bionik Cruz lol
bionik Cruz ooooooooh
Great record by the way
3 stacks
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Joe look like he jus came outta def jam vendetta
Travis Douglas On mothers thats the same outfit lmfaoo 😂😂
Hell naw lmfao y'all funny
The crew neck and everything LOL
Travis Douglas love IT when you explain something to a black man and he says : yeah but thats the thing, and then says something complitly diffrent... black people Are just like women, they argue about everything Else then what the argument is about
Travis Douglas w
Joe having a watch on each wrist is nasty lol
🤣😂🤣😂
Ricardo Hernandez Joe is really a sicko
🤮
Ricardo Hernandez 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was just about to write this lmao
recommended:
2009: nah
2010: nah
2011: nah
2012: nah
2013: nah
2014: nah
2015: nah
2017: nah
2018: nah
2019: nah
2020: yeah sure
My thoughts exactly, I almost didn't click just because why now? But did of course
word i mean i saw this back then but FINALLY LOL cuz joey is popping right now
I agree
Yeah the CZcams algo is messing up
Right! Like wtf?
Joe would argue with a damn stop sign. It's entertaining though 😂
Right Coast lmao
It would get emotional, inspirational, and intimidating all within 3 minutes.
IKR😂
Sign:stop
Joe:No you stop
"What do you mean everyone's stopped always and it's worked? The best never stopped, they didn't conform. Why should I stop just because you say stop. This is joe budden, not joe shcmo, I'll never stop I'll never conform"
P.s: that was spoken in 3 different volumes and 4 different emotions switched up randomly in the middle of sentences.
Cee Cee how bout we both stop, because we can only go from here
Being friends with Joe must be exhausting af!
I would rather deal with Joe than Dame Dash
Lamont T it would be just as irritating only difference is with joe you wouldn’t make no money 😂
Facts!!!
Lamont T oh hell nah!!!! Lol
U A niggas buy houses everyday b, ain’t nothing special.
This randomly popped up in my recommendations in 2020. 🤣
Baby Boy Keith Outta nowhere dude lol
Baby Boy Keith Because it’s dope 👊🏾
Same but I'm glad it did.. shit was hilarious!!!
Baby Boy Keith mine too
Same bruh and I can see how a group was a horrible idea for joe lol
This what we missing is real actual studio sessions
SummerTyme Fly facts.
SummerTyme Fly rt
Ppl watch everyday struggle and think he acts like that for more views but he’s been like this for years lmao
Anthony Ortiz this nigga so extra he was even extra in def jam vendetta
Joe bodden is a virgo.I understand him and virgo thinking completely. He analyzes on a whole different level.
supuu rehema that’s a fact
Anthony Ortiz Exactly
@@MakingHeavenByForce That part 😁
"You got your 32 already written?"
"No!"
*LMAO!!!!*
Crumb Bum that sums it all up
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, ...........
Lmao I wish they would've let us hear how many he had written
Crumb Bum lolol!
Jp Paullada DEADASS ☠️😂 if he would have been on 12 I would have lost it 😂😂😂😂
Meanwhile in New Jersey, Akademics is deciding on "Booty Talk 78" or "Big Round Asses" to put him to sleep...
John Green n impossibly video tapping himself giving a review
Great choices
Booty talk is classic material yo
AK: Lotion or dry ... also AK: Dryyy
BOOTY TALK 78 IS GOOD CINEMA...
You got your 32 ?
No
STOP THEN !! 😂😂😂
Even tho nobody has to have it written when you can just write it😂 still funnyfunny tho
Jermaine Williams lol
"Im 28, im Puerto Rican!" Lmaooo
What does that even mean..?
They sound like 20 yr old rappers on the come up lol
I feel both of em tho..
Joe been difficult out the womb 😂
J C they were in their late 20's I believe if this was 9-10 years ago
But Joe Is Nice
He was about 25 here so..
For real...Joe probably argued with the doctor over how long it took him to come out the wound...
@@gates4407 He wasn't 25 he was around 28 yrs old.
Joel got an iron man t shirt on and Joe got two watches......I'm done bro...
Nah cause ones on reg white people time....
Aye watch ya mouth Iron man is the greatest
Put some respect on iron man name
Poopy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 good dope and Newport’s
Rapper shit lol
in da club was a minute and 70 seconds 😂 why not say 2 minutes and 10 seconds lol
it's funny cause it's 3:20 exactly like what the other guy was arguing for
I'm thinking probably because it makes it sound shorter to prove his point.
Why this pop up in my recommendations 😭😭😭
Young Joe is CRAAAZY
Same lol.
This is the creative process in a nutshell. I love this video. You know there's love in the tracks when everyone is arguing diplomacy and direction over simply writing out verses and dictation - no matter what genre of music you're working with.
Record ⏺️
5:52- Joe Budden: Pardon me for not being as dope and squeezing my entire ish
Joell Ortiz: You're pardoned
LOL!!!
Giovanni Garcia 😂😂😂
Yeah, I can see why Slaughterhouse didnt work out. Lmao.
But also why they were the best at this rap shit.
A minute 70 seconds lmao
Mymindtatted Already I heard that!
Honestly this is one of the greatest conversations I’ve ever heard. Both sides have great points but I side with joe saying true artists can do anything they want and create their own path
Shakeal I feel the same way. It was honest, no saltiness, no disrespect. Just 2 men butting heads as men should. If men always interacted like this, more stuff would get done.
But Joe was acting like he had it done already lol
MrEer218 EXACTLY!! That’s what got me when I realized dude ain’t even finish his 16 yet and arguing about doing a 32. Joe bugging 😂
Shakeal not really tho. It’s very rare you hear a verse that’s longer than a 16 get radio play. Maybe it’s pushed on its own if it’s the right record in the underground like... sixteen by Ross and Andre. Which is just a phenomenal record all the way around. But that’ 7 min record was NOT gonna get radio play. It would be cut in the middle like the 106 & park days lol. So I guess it depends on what Joel wanted to do with the record. And sense it was his record. The decision should’ve been his
Live From The Motherland I mean ya the final should be to joell. I think joe wanted to make sure he wasn’t sticking himself in a box cause he feels he has to. Gotta challenge ur people to be great and not always play the game.
im 28 im puerto rican i rhyme YO THATS IT lmao
crisisakagod 😂
crisisakagod
He aint LYING
Why youtube givin me this 11 years later 😂
14 years later and i just realized joe has a watch on both wrist lol
I love the longer tracks, Joe has an ability to hold people's interest (Joell too) with 7-8minute joints. But theres nothing wrong with having a kind of formulaic verse/hook/verse/hook track every once in a while. It's necessary to mix it up so that the listener doesn't get bored
(and the beat to Renegade is audio cocaine)
The song is Move On by Slaughterhouse. All four do 36
Joe was tryna argue his way into a remix on shake that jello
6:48
"You tell Joe to go right, he's always gonna go left. Tell him to write a 16, he goes and writes a 32. Cause that's what Joe does."
Fam, with recent news these old videos hit different.
Literally this is the shit we argue about when working on music and the same way.
the funny thing is that Joe ain't even have 16 yet XD
In da club is 3 minutes and 14 seconds lol
"In da club was only a minute and 90 seconds! Not even, a minute and 70 seconds!!" Fucking joe man😂 the funniest part is he dead ass serious
This is normal everyday brothers fight shit
Only thing change about Joe is the size of the shirts got smaller 😂
Joe be talking in circles lol
Why is this in my reccomended.
Lol i thought this was a flashback post didnt realize it was posted in 08 😭
“Creators create” 😂😂😂 joe was ahead of his time !!
His entire career
Joe arguing to make a 10 minute song vs a 3 minute song is definitely Joe
I can see exactly why Slaughterhouse didn’t work
Joe wears two watches because he wants everyone else to know what time it is.
"Internets", remember Joel use to say that.
dieselshug do your Googles
xcaluhbration thank you. Lol
Then Joel Ortiz started his verse “ I can’t fit it all in a 16” when he hopped on ‘Follow My Lead’ with Joe 😂
Joe's conversations are always low key arguments
Nothing low key about it
Joell look like an employee dealing with a crazy manager
This dude got 2 watches on. I'm done
Best comment here.
Joe ahead of the game now look at mfs
the rolex dont work.. he cant aford to fix it ,so he got the other one
Probably because he flew to another time zone
FOREAL LMFAO that 2 watch shit mad corny tho
It's fuckin 12 years later and Joe still makes that weird hissing noise chuckle lol
Joel looked like he already knew how this convo was gonna go and looked done before it started. lmao
Joel was 28 in this video 😂🤣😂
After hearing this, watching everyday struggle, and now the podcast lol it's official Joe Budden just likes to argue for the fun of it..
So you don’t think he has a point? He doesn’t want to just spit 16.
S Chochotte ehhh depends on the song. Joel is right sometimes you have to let the beat ride for the mood that your trying to push. Sometimes 16 is perfect sometimes it ain't like joe is saying.
Lmao for both these niggas to end up on the same group 😂😂😂. Joe and Joel lmao the the funniest
I do see Joe's point, he's just trying to get the best out of Joel. Also I wish renegade was way longer.
Ortiz look like a dad that tired of his highschool sons pranks 😂
"But the canvas'll limit you,
You can't go beyond what there's no limit to"
Truth be told I could have watched this all day this was entertaining and I could do some research off this lol
I feel you Chase.
Y
Cardi B jump on this
You can tell their friendship is real no phony shit
It doesn't seem like it to me
Its definitely a real friendship because me and my niggas argue like this all the time 30 mins later we back coo
How you feeling on this now?
Crack BEAT. BEATS THAT DRIVE. A LIST.
A LIST. A SECRET. A PROJECT.BL A MIXTAPE NAME AND COVER.
Joe is a free thinker I respect that normal people always think a free thinker is a difficult person
They are not mutually exclusive - a lot of free thinking smart people are incredibly difficult
This why Joe ain't know Em album was dropping lmao
Wearing 2 watches is crazy 😂😂😂
Man I love Joe
Yo, you got your 32? Joe: no! 😂😂😂😂 All that damn arguing and you not done.
Joe you deserve a nasty award for both of those watches
I really miss having these arguments with the homies in the stu man...
Rise and Fall of Slaughterhouse
Truth always comes out eventually
Joel is so frustrated. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
“A minute and 90 seconds” ... 😂
Joe talking bout 50 cent InDAClub was only a min a sum change. When it’s clearly over 3 mins long 😂
Joe was on the internet before the breakfast club got big
Internets! Lmao
Lol @ Joe Budden's speaking voice, it's so deep and I'm rolling.
*Same* 💯 percent
Internets *we here*
It’s interesting to see them have the literal definition of creative differences. Entertaining too
I just noticed this year's later why is Joey wearing two watches 🤣🤣
He think he cool😂😂
This nigga said a minute and 90 seconds
what song is this they made
Yo, Joe straight up fought with Joell over what became my favorite Slaughterhouse song. Move On is classic
Fast forward 3 years.. joe still argue the same like on everyday struggle hahaha thaaa man! Haha
Nate Wells 9 years
Max Zip woah? That long ago.. i didnt know slaughter how was live way back then. Damn. I stand corrected.
How the fuck could this have been 3 years ago when it was posted 9 years ago lol
Daniel Rivera bro relax. I said i was wrong.
@@2ntnun This was before Slaughterhouse. they did a song called slaughterhouse.years later they decided to come together as a group with that name.
I gotta feeling being in a group with Joe wasnt any fun lol
but everyone else was playing by eminem type rules. tryna make 3 minute records, tryna make traditional radio acceptable shit. and it didn’t work. with all the rappers in slaughterhouse they coulda had classics on classics. they weren’t for the masses. we want raps from the rappers.
Not if you like rapping Joel said he was cap
A lot of gems 💎 on this video. 2022 we’re still learning.
Joe arguing so he can make his standard 6 min songs. Lol
My Guy droppin mad gems
“Let’s work” is more relevant now than ever.
Joe wearing 2 watches....I see what he means when he says " he goes all out"
Damn wish it was still like this seeing these dudes go thru what they going thru now is sad...I just wanted to go back and see how it used to be...! RIP SLAUGHTERHOUSE!
The double watch is absolutely EGREGIOUS
Great artist create they own formula 🙏🙏🙏
I now understand why Mal said ofc Joe would like the 7min song on PARTYMOBILE
Move On is a dope ass track.
“In da club” was damn near 3:20 lol
You mean a minute and 140 seconds.
Joel just ain't wanna write another verse. Packed all he had to say on this joint in 16 bars.
7:20 Joe starts moving his hands like hes on GTA San Andreas lmao
Nnamdi Keshi 😂😂😂
Joe wanted more than 16 bars while he only had 10 bars written
He probably realized he wouldn’t finish what he wanted to say on 16 so he stopped to discuss it.
S Chochotte
Kendrick would’ve done it with np
Death I don't understand your point
Death kendrick have numerous songs where he goes past 16 bars. And have you heard the song they were debating about
S Chochotte
And Kendrick also had plenty song that were written in just 16 bars & slaps.
Joe acting like he already written a 32 hit song bars.
Joe loves to argue and I’m here for it
2 watches is crazy 😅
Move on was a pure classic
Joe right about everything except the Renegade beat