Days Gone Review: Sony's MOST UNDERRATED Game
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- Days Gone Review | Available on PC, PS4, PS4 Pro, and on PS5 with 60fps.
In this review I'll make a case for a game that has made one hell of a comeback. Is Days Gone perfect? No. No game is. But, Days Gone is one of the most underrated games I've ever played. So, is Days Gone worth playing in 2023? Abso-frickin'-lutely! This review is based on my 100% playthrough on both PS4 and again on PS5.
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Content
0:00 Intro
3:40 Story
5:45 Gameplay
8:33 Crafting
9:07 Deacon
10:02 Motorcycle
11:05 Enemies
12:49 The Horde
14:09 Presentation
15:25 Completion
16:11 Launch, Reception, & Sales
17:29 Closing
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What do you think about Days Gone? Is it underrated?
I TOTALLY agree! Days Gone is AMAZING! I don't know what the critics were thinking!
@@gamingguru1137the great mysteries! 😊
Highly underrated! What happened was the critics were probably paid by other game names to rip days gone apart! In my opinion days gone Is one of the best games of all time! Still play it now on ps5.
Agreed. I enjoyed the game and I felt the story was fantastic. I don't know why this game was marred with bad reviews.
This game is extremely underrated. I have played it so many times, and I keep going back to it.
I'm not usually into single player games, but Days Gone was something unlike I haver ever experienced. This game will always remain in my heart as my favorite game.
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Same here ..... Not many games can beat the feeling of riding the bike down the beautiful world of days gone .... Everything in days gone be it the story ... The characters the atmosphere the gameplay, the music and sound design and the combat tugs at ur heart strings ..... Days gone is an experience like no other ....
Why do you like garbage let me guess your favorite movie is tenat and interstellar. Your favorite band is Nickelback.... Your such a loser.
@@idrisahmed2659🤝🏻
Totally agree with everything said here in this thread, God I love this game. It's the first game I went out of my way to get the platinum trophy, in new game +
Absolute masterpiece!!!
Bend studios got screwed by reviewers we need a sequel to this game!
100%!
Exactly!!!
I was so angry at the negative reviews because most were based on lies or misconceptions...it was blatantly obvious many of the negative reviewers had not played the whole game, let alone more than 5 to 10 hours...based on their complaints and "observations".
I have repeatedly said that Bend Studios deserves praise and accolades for Days Gone...and they were definitely screwed.
And we the gamers definitely deserve a sequel...the hidden ending left me very excited for the sequel, so I was very disappointed when it was announced there would not be a sequel.
They were didn't like the lack of diversity and male leads.
This is easily the most underrated game of all time. The game is amazing. The gameplay, the story and the world are excellent. It is one of my favorite games ever and I’ve been gaming for a long time.
Well said, I feel exactly the same way😊 also been gaming for a long time, it has a special place in my heart.
The story is kinda cringy, the acting is passable, the casting is kinda off, but for all it's faults, it's still one of my favourite games over my 30 years of gaming. Absolutely excellent
Most underrated game of all time? The story had many clichés and the characters weren't even half as great as in Gow or Horizon...
The map was good but after 15-20 hours it became boring and the side activities also became repetitive.
The game doesn't even had an Okay hand to hand combat...
@cs.a.745 It's all about opinions,in my opinion and that of many would completely disagree with you.
@@johngreenhorn8853 The story has many clichés... It's not an opinion.
If you like or hate the clichés that's an opinion. Big difference.
The characters weren't half as great as in Gow. That's also not just opinion. If you like these characters better that's an opinion. 😅
With the rest I agree.
I got my copy signed by Sam Witwer last year. It was great being able to tell him his voice kept me company during lockdown haha.
That's so cool! Jealous big time! 😎
Wow crazy man happy for you
Sam Witwer is a legend bro, I totally envy you right now😅
I didnt expect to enjoy the story as much as i did. So many twists. Definitely one of my favorite gakes of all time. And ive played A LOT of games
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Definitely a hidden gem, which is surprising considering how heavily it was marketed!
Story was a banger, but recently I've been 100 percenting it for the basic gameplay. I replayed it recently and was like man this gameplay is so slept on. Just so fun.
There was definitely something suspicious going on with the reviews on this game. Every single person I’ve ever spoke to that has played this game absolutely loved but unfortunately like me they never played it until years later because of the reviews. I have and never will listen to ign and others again
When I was thinking of playing something after RDR2, I saw the ads for this game now & then on PS5. Zombies freak me out & I suck at quick time events, so I never thought I’d download it. Fast forward and not only did I try it, I got platinum on Normal, finished it again on Hard & just recently completed Survivor 2. I guess you could say I’m a little obsessed. Super fun game for sure!
That's awesome!
How is it compared to RDR2?
One of my favorite games of all time. They nailed everything, deserves a sequel!
100% agree!
They didn’t nail shit other than the hordes 😂
I cant believe its been 5 years since the release of this game.
It was such a good game. Slow start for sure, but very satisfying story in the middle to end. Plus gameplay was good too.
The song that plays when u hit the road, is everything. This game will always be my favourite
Yeah that part. Music is perfect
Perfection.
It's the only game I've ever played where quests didn't feel like a chore. I was genuinely dying to know what would happen next. The survival elements make the open world genuinely difficult to travel through especially if u lose ue bike
Same here. Everything just feel enjoyable. The side quests are even better than most games main mission.
Days gone is one of the greatest games ever played !! We deserve a 2 for sure
Days Gone is the best game that I almost missed. Now I don't put as much trust into reviews as I did before Days Gone was released.
Picked this up a couple weeks ago. Game is amazing. Randomly coming across a horde when you are out of bullets and gas is the worst, in the best way possible.
Days gone was the fist game where I never felt like it was getting reparative I never groaned or feared doing anything I’m the game sadly I’ll never experience anything like this I played a lot of single player games but this felt like dream with no flaws
I was one of those people that didn't like the game at all so I never finished. But I gave it a try again earlier this year and now I love it. Pretty upset it took me this long to realize what a good game this is.
I knew this game would be good. It is the only game I ever pre-ordered. And I don’t know why, but I did not have any bugs when I played this game day one on my PlayStation 4. It blows my mind because this game is way better than 99% of video games within the last 20 years and so many people just want to hate on it.
With the new update you can reset any part of the game once you beat it 100%. You can reset all hordes or ambush camps or infestations all at once or individually. I bkught the game in 2019 and ha e played it religiously since up until now and to see the progress is like watching a child grow. It never ends with playability and you can go about one camp or horde literally over a thousand ways. It is NEVER the same. The game doesnt say do it this way or that way it just says get it done and dont die. The most freestyle game ever made
I loved days gone on ps4 pro! On my ps5 i didn't know what love was! If this doesn't get a sequel it would be sonys biggest mistake!!!!
I don’t care what anybody says. It had an awesome story to it everything I experienced in the game is great. I played this game three times now completed it 100% done everything I’d really like to see days gone 2
Completed it thrice already, and is still my go to game when i want to relax and just roam around. i keep dreaming about a sequel.
Mee too!
I know the sequel was cancelled but it still did well. It has a cult following and is only getting more and more attention so we may get a sequel years down the road.
This was the game that prompted me to stop reading reviews from "big" review sites. It was clear that the reviewers only sampled a few hours of the game before trashing it. It remains one of best games I've played in the genre. It has the magic of being able to keep you on edge, because all it takes for to be thrown into a stressful (awesome) state of mind is making a mistake on your bike and knowing you might be swarmed. It never got old.
I think assholes that reviewed the game need a head check. I love it. It's one of my favourite games. I wish Bend Studio's would make a sequel to the game as well. I love the weather system in the game.
I was lucky enough to pick this game up on a steam sale without realizing it was the game with the zombie horde I saw the first E3 trailer for. So when I encountered my first horde it was jaw dropping.
That's awesome!
7:45 you can literally play combat however you want! Stealth, melee, explosives and traps and a million weapons, one of the best parts of this amazing game
Probably have permanent heart failure from getting the crap scared outta me every time a wolf jumped out at me outta nowhere.
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So many jump moments but for me the kid in the car boot ..damn.. I didn't open another boot for an hour... 🤣
One of my favorite games. Can't believe there's not going to a sequel.
I Played it on PC when it was released and it blew me away for the 140 odd hours I spent on my first playthrough.
Loved the bike loved the jobs for hire. Not so much in for the hordes. But everything is second to none. Story line was fantastic. The advertising should have included the moded bike. Jobs for hire. Best game ever. Love the outlaw biker colours the bike riding.
I just finished completing "Days Gone" and I will tell you it has some of the best plot driven narratives out there. Many twists and turns. You absolutely feel emotional compelled by the characters and want them to succeed. (Which I feel is a rarity on triple-A games of today) It is not a perfect game obviously - it can be a little grindy it you want to level up and complete all objectives. There are the "fetch quests" which unfortunately a staple in games today as well. (Ala Far Cry) I put a lot of hours in it and getting my character up to the challenge of finally taking on the Hordes was very rewarding. I am sure this will be on sale on Steam - it would be a shame to miss it.
Want some fun? Before shooting some zombies or taking out a nest. Look for a nearby dumpster to climb into. After shooting some of them run and jump into a dumpster. They get all pissed off and pound on the dumpster but can't open it. I like to do this with the big Breakers its hilarious. Jump out when clear and hit them again and hop back in the dumpster, good times.
Ah days gone. One of my top games last gen and still now.
Didnt buy it at launch, so have zero negativity about it.
I heard it had launch issues!!
Brilliant game!
Nah I played it at launch and it had really minor issues.
The only issues it had were a few big review site (ign, GameSpot?) that decided this was the game they burn to the ground.
That truly was the only problem the game had.
Thankfully I never listen to reviews and Days Gone just confirmed that for me.
I bought this game about four years ago. I played an hour and promptly stopped and forgot about it. I picked it up again last week on my PS4 (my PC went down) and I'm about 30 hours in. Totally immersed and entranced. Loving it.
Some of the negative reviewers definitely did not fully play the whole game, I really like the game!
I’ve loved this game since launch. Brought it on steam as well. First time I’ve never felt that the open world busy work was boring or a waste of time. The Nero story line kept me hooked for the hole game. My only issue is that the cult leader villain was half baked and didn’t really care about him. I feel like this was the start of the whole ‘don’t listen to offical reviewers’ movement games and movies are experiencing.
I never listen to the mainstream reviews. They generally are just flat out wrong
600 hours.. I still find this game extremely satisfying...
Wow that’s a lot of hours
I got my first Platinum Trophy from this game, ❤U Days Gone. Thanks for the memories.
No other game has ever come close to the sheer panic and exhilaration you get when facing a horde. Love it! In my opinion, it was the best game of the last gen.
This game is by far the ultimate premier zombie adventure that sets a new standard that makes all previous zombie games look pathetic and lackluster . I bought this about a month ago and I have spent all my free time with it . There absolutely should be another Days Gone in the making .
I replay this game every year or so. It’s easily in my top5s
I absolutely love this game! Gameplay is so much fun, I really liked the characters, and the world is great. Im like you…I skipped it at first because of the reviews…but months later I gave it a try and I’m always hoping one day a sequel will get announced. Def the best example of “don’t always listen to the reviews”.
One of my top 5 games of all time. While a sequel is unlikely, I am still hoping for one.
I have played on PC Days Gone, Horizon zero Dawn and I'm now middle witcher 3. HZD for me is average good, witcher 3 is great but Days Gone takes the crown
I dont care what anyone or any review says this game is awesome one of the best i have ever played o still play it from time to time beat the story close to 10 times
This game deserved better. I got it for free on PlayStation and it ended up being one of the best games on my ps5. I heard it didn’t run well on the ps4 but I can’t speak to that. Some elements are cliche, like the main character’s terrible name and heart of gold bad biker motif, and the lack of stakes regarding supporting characters. However it’s a fantastic fun game with a great gameplay loop. If nothing else it deserves a second look and I’d argue it deserves a sequel.
I'm currently playing it for the first time. It's a very solid game, way better than most post-apocalyptic games I've played.
I've been playing games for over 40 years and this is one of the best games of all times. Bad reviews come from kids with short attention spans.
Great review and impressions of the game, thanks! I'll definitely try and grab a copy of days gone
Awesome!
The gameplay, the story, the acting...enjoyed it all. One of the few times I disagreed with many of the critical reviews.
This game was super awesome! Finished it in 2024 on a ps5. Loved every minute, i usually take forever to finish a game, but this game had me hooked!
With all the garbage games out there, this one right here stood out.
Im finally replay it on PS5. I loved the Game at Release even with all the Problems like Stuttering in big Areas etc.
But now on a big LG OLED , Dolby Atmos and smooth 60fps it feels so good! I could not get into the Game at first, but now after the first Horde, better Weapons and Bike Upgrades im really hooked again.🤟👍
Days gone did something that many games struggle to do in my opinion.
It was fun
I played it and yea the story isnt neccesarly original, but as far as the world and gameplay. It was well built. Driving around and finding hoards was so much fun.
Sony never fully went in on this game and its like they wanted it to fail. And the fact that it sold as well as it did shows that a sequel couldve made the same impact as uncharted 2 did. Very pissed and hope we one day see this game make a return
I am having such a blast playing this game. As soon as I started the game I decided to play it slowly, not just rushing into the main story and trying to finish it quick but rather be completely in the role of Deacon. Not rushing saying that anyway I will restart at the last saving point but rather really trying to get out of situation as if my life depended on it lol. For example, if it happens that I really need a gas can to go on and the circumstances are really bad, I still trying to figure out how can I get it, it may take 1 hour, 2 hours, I don't care.
I went into a lot of crazy scenarios that just happens live, random things that are constantly unfolding in the open world, and the feeling of being able to get out of these unexpected situations is just crazy.
I don't know for city people, but as a guy who really go walking in the woods and traveled in British Columbia and Oregon in real life, the landscape and the feel of the environment is absolutely stunning, it's so realistic and well made. The ground, the flowers, the trees, the bike sounds, the gunfights action, you can tell it's made with heart and dedication. Of course you have to get over the bad timing of the narration versus the actual action and few bugs like that, but playing this game is a great experience.
Exactly. I played it the same way. Had no idea what this game was. Nor watched any reviews. Was just looking for something to play because RDR2O went down the drain. Saw this on my PS Plus and I’m a fiend for zombie games.
And well 400 plus hrs and a platinum trophy later….
If you do the challenges in the menu, you earn patches that appear on your cut during the story.
One of THE most sinfully underrated games ever made. You accurately described the battles with the hordes, butt clenching. The farm horde and the horde that you have to battle to gain the napalm molotov damn near made me quit the game. But when my then 16 year old son mocked me for giving up on it, calling the battles easy, I went back with new determination and finished the game, which had one of the most unexpected twists I've played in a game. A sequel to this game is a MUST HAVE!!!!!!
I totally relate to that story about your son! I’m currently playing through God of War Ragnarok and my boy (15) is relentless if I’m stuck on a boss - making me want to power through even more! 😁
While playing Ragnarok, I actually put it down for at least a whole year, because of how large it was. I found it daunting, because each world kept opening up to more and more side missions. Great game, but can sometimes overstay it's welcome 😅
There aren't too many things that scare me in games (or movies) but the hordes in DG were truly terrifying!
I bought a PS5 just for GoWR anddddd thisssss Days Gone. High up on the list was Horizon Zero Dawn 1 & 2, Bloodborne and The Last of Us 1 & 2. I’m a Xbox Player but originally a PlayStation guy.
I absolutely loved Days Gone. After playing it I checked reviews and such and was appalled at ppl who apparently never played the game more what seemed like a few short hours. My one friend I’ve gotten him so close to playing this. I think he’s almost there. 🤪
Keep ya fingers crossed that it happens. I adored this game. Whilst I did play it after the bug fixes and whatnot I’ve only bumped into mayyyyyybe a half a dozen glitches. But small ones such as a dead freakier hanging in the air as if he was climbing something and died. So they were minuscule. But the games amazing and pretty damned pretty.
By far the on of the best game I ever played.
Zander Reese's music that you hear in the Lost Lake gazebo is worth a mention also. I'm probably on my 5th time through (not in a row) and only just discovered the "reset jobs" option. You can go have all the fun without doing a Newgame+ and going back through the story.
Good call! Yesterday is a fantastic track! i love that you can play through 5 times and still find new ways to have fun in the game!
Straight to the point and mentioning every important detail. Thx.
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Your video was recommended to me and I totally agree with you on this, I'm glad i decided to ignore the reviews, it just looked to much like my kind of game so i bought it within the first week of it being out and fell in love, i would save videos for my wife to update her on the story and call her into the room when i would take on a horde. They did a great job with the game. Oh and i subbed and liked.
A man after my own heart! Thanks for the sub! 🤜🤛
You don’t understand how much it infuriates me How IGN and Metacritic got away with lying and sabotaging Days Gone and Any chance of a DLC or sequel…. Dude it fucking drives me mad…. Because Days Gone is by far the best PlayStation exclusive and my all time favourite, Ghost of Tsushima is very close in 2nd place
One of the best games I've ever played
What happened, in short, it's that kids only want shooter games, preferably first person shitters. Everything else in a game is lost to them. Just kill, kill, kill, players, NPC's, doesn't matter. Dennis Hopper's character in Waterworld " Don't just stand there...KILL SOMETHING..."
Days Gone has almost everything great. In depth story, environment, the ragged clothing fits the post apocalypse setting,the people look tired and messed up overall, it's rainy weather, muddy swamps and dirt roads, which as a dirt bike rider myself have lived it, drama, stealth, bit of strategy when dealing with human enemies, the weapons have different sounds and a million other little things. The guy who wrote it, wrote it more like a novel, a movie, which is exactly right with the 3rd person view. Movies are in 3rd person.
The challenges are lots of fun and very challenging make sure to not miss out after you finish the game.
I agree. hope they make a 2nd one.
Me too! 😁
@@gamingguru1137I would love that!
I too played this game during the pandemic lol. One of the few game I finish from start to finish.
Only thing I would have liked to see changed is that you’re able to change your clothes / hat / hairstyle like RDR2
Yes!
Only thing the game was missing was character customization. Mods fixed that though.
Yeah, that would've been great!
Im on my 1st playthrough on hard mode. what a masterpiece of a game
As many other aspects of pop culture, the puppet masters who control entertainment media push forward what agrees and promotes their agenda, and outcast and downgrade what doesnt. This game is a masterpiece, and having the reviews it got just shows even videogames cant escape their gaslighting
It’s just a game.
More like the mass of bugs, performance issues and other problems early on were what triggered the very average reviews. Most people like myself who loved it played it much later with all those fixed.
@@MrYazboAnd more like reviewers attempt to clean the way for woke tlou2. 😉
When I first played it I wasn’t a fan not only that but was it buggy but to me it played out like “The Last of Us WITH Bikers”
I played it maybe about 2 years ago and lemme tell ya I don’t know what crud covered glasses I had on but MANNNNN I was wrong the games an underrated gem.
Cannot believe it’s been half a decade since this came out.
Definitely the closest to an immersive, thrilling, post apocalyptic open world survival game with horror aspects & with somewhat of a believable resource/looting system while delivering the feeling of an actually active world that we’ve got so far. Very, very underrated indeed. IMO this game certainly set a benchmark for how games in this niche & genre could/should be done. A couple of tweaks, enhancements & improvements and this would be a timeless masterpiece. Sure do hope one day we will get something very similar, if not a part 2.
One of the best games ive played in a LONG while. the story, environment, characters and everything in-between was just so well crafted. All while I was searching for the bad game that I always heard about. The only thing that could have ever been done differently for the game is to have a PC enhanced edition. All in all what a hell of a story and a RIDE!
As I was taking down a camp two days ago, the words Syphon Filter popped into my head. Then a day later I watched this video and realized the reason.
Excellent video! I drive through OR weekly, and I see a lot of the locations from the game. The developers put a lot of love and effort into Days Gone. It's an underrated masterpiece, in my opinion.
P.S.
The clip of the Reacher getting inside the O'Leary Mountain Safehouse looks familiar. 🤔😅
OMG that’s too funny! 😅 Well, nice to meet you, fellow Days Gone enthusiast! It’s cool that you’re able to see how much work Bend Studio put into the environment first hand!
The best £14.99 i ever spent,i got it in 2021 and had hardly any issues and definitely one of the best games ive played i would PERSONALLY put it on a par with the last of us,obviously a lot of gamers would disagree but we all have our own opinions.
I love both games but I don't think Days Gone has gotten nearly enough credit for being so good!
@adamscottgames I kind of agree and disagree if you know what I mean I think most people who actually took the time to get into the game loved it and it does get a lot of love from what i can see,I think the reviews when it came out ( some of them justified) definitely did not help,as I say I got it in 2021 and think by then most of the problems that they had at launch had been ironed out and I experienced very few glitches,would love a sequel but it appears that ain't gonna happen,unless the proposed movie of the first game comes to fruition that could help fingers,crossed.
I remember the cutscenes had some very weird cuts. Apart from that, the game was great.
I never understood why the game was received so badly by many. I really enjoyed the game and the story! It’s sad that the bad critiques made a sequel difficult
One of the best games I ever played, big excellent sf story, excellent bike maintenance and fuel system as we are feeding horse in RDR2, beautiful large detailed map, one of the best straight romances we ever played, especially when they meet again in military camp, who doesn't have his own wife can't imagine feeling, (don't try find a woman first). We can't wait second part, brave straight in harmony with natural laws. Many reviewers don't finish even half of a game, cheaters, we ignore IGN after that injustice
Its annoying that other games far inferior to this game get endless sequels but Days Gone gets no sequel and mainly due to negative reviews made by people who had never even played it. Even 5 years or so later, for me it is still the best, most exciting game ever made. A sequel is constantly being talked about and I really hope it happens. I would buy it in a heartbeat. Great video by the way.
Thanks! 🤜🤛
Great review!!!
I played Days Gone day one on my PS4 Pro because I had pre-ordered the collector's edition...and I loved it!!!
I even got the platinum...and I've even double dipped by buying it on Steam too.
Days Gone is another amazing must play PlayStation game that I highly recommend to others.
Thanks! Yeah, I sing this game's praises to anyone who'll listen!
I`ve just finished this game and I dont know how I`m going to replace Boozer, Rikki and Iron Mike and the Freakers and wild dogs trying to kill me in my life. The storey is fantastic, animation and gameplay are amazing and the world is rich, gorgeous and believable. This was escapism into that world and I want more. We DEMAND a sequel !!! You cant leave me on the cliff to hang on forever O`Brian!
If anyone has played Mad Max, the relationship Max has with his car is very similar to Decon and his bike, both a pivotal mechanic to the game play. This game is a masterpiece and its criminal how there won’t be a sequel!
I have that game on my list. Looks like another underrated gem!
@@adamscottgames definitely! I think days gone certainly took inspiration from it, unfortunately the story is very bland but the game play alone keeps you playing! If you have played the first batman games the combat is the same as that, very refined!
Its wayyyy underrated. Great review also. I'd add that free roaming is so good in Days Gone. I love that you can meet a bear and with a bit of risk and luck guide him into a hoard or a bandit camp and just watch the carnage. All the npcs will interact with each other when they meet and with unpredictable outcomes that you can take advantage. The bugs are years ago fixed
On my 4th run over the years now and I can say that the people who don’t experience this game because of ign and others giving it low score need experience it themself and then rate it themself n see how bad some of these ratings are as this game is amazing
I need a second game. Hell I’d take a novel, a comic series, ANY THING
Subscribed for the title of this video alone!
Nice! 🤜🤛
I'm really enjoying this game; especially when you chance upon a hoard and you have literally hundreds of the things chasing you. It's the only open world survival horror game that I'm aware of.
Love this game. Has some pacing issues but it's fantastic. Would love a sequel.
I'm playing this for the 1st time ever on my PS5, I am enjoying it so damn much that I have decided to go for the platinum trophy. I cannot put this game down. 10/10 for me.
Awesome! It's a super fun platinum to get!
Sony should tie each of its post apocalyptic games with a few easter eggs.
Excellent video. I have now subscribed.
Awesome, thanks! 🤜🤛
Great video man! Well done!
Awesome thanks! 🤜🤛
Favourite Game Ever...... so sad it never got a sequel
This is my favorite game I absolutely love it. I hope we get says gone 2 I really hope we do.
This is one of the best games I've ever played, loved it , love the story the music the open world ,taking on hordes, thoroughly enjoyed it
One of the best!
Fantastic video, dude!
Thanks! 🤜🤛 BTW - your name is rad!
Thank you for showing this game so much love! Of course TLOU gets remade and remastered 100 times but Days Gone can’t get a sequel 💔😡
Even small story spoilers should have been avoided. No other complaint. ✌