Can You Complete the Pokedex Only Using Surprise Trade?
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How much of the Scarlet and Violet Pokedex can you complete ONLY by using Surprise Trade?
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It honestly feels like people now are being a lot more generous in surprise trades. It might be because it’s becoming easier to get shinies, which is in no way a bad thing, but I’ve noticed more non hacked shiny Pokémon, and just really good late game Pokémon being traded in this generation than in previous generations. It’s really nice to see people helping strangers out with filling out the Pokédex, even if it’s just because they have extras. I remember when people would just release the extra Pokémon and it always made younger me feel a little sad.
Definitely. I remember back in USUM, me taking time to get version exclusives, hidden ability pokémon, hard to get pokémon with low encounter chancr and whatnot to try out wondertrading and seeing what I'd get - and in 30ish trades, I got about a dozen wingulls, another half a dozen-dozen youngoos/rattata and whatever else you get on the first route, and the only 2 trades that weren't just early route garbage were a Mimikyu (not rare, but hey) and an Oranguru. I literally haven't touched the feature since then since it seemed like everyone is just trying to give as little as possible in hopes of getting something great. I definitely think the greater ease of shinies and especially max raids giving you ok-ish things you might not need while you're gathering shards or herba mystica definitely helps tilt the pool of pokémon towards "fun to get" instead of "complete garbage". Might even get tempted to try out surprise trade again.
I was shiny hunting for a Komala near release using Normal sandwiches, and ended up with three shiny male Oinkalogne. I only needed one so I Surprise Traded the other two away.
I traded away a shiny Falinks for a charizard named Kevin the other day. I just really wanted a charizard and was never gonna use the falinks. Lol
Where as in swsh you only ever got dreepys from the suprise trades
I go and catch a bunch of version exclusives in luxury balls and trade them out when I'm bored tbh
Have to say, as an older viewer, I am absolutely here for Mikey’s slow descent into a Markiplier-style madness. 10/10, keep it up dude.
Mikeyplier
Yes! The more yelling the better!
yea im 2 minutes in and this vid is top notch MandJTV content. Did my guy hire some new writers/editors????
Man's channeling some Dennis Reynolds energy and I'm here for it lol
@@budthatisblue6941 no it’s still Just katie
I like how people are being nice in surprise trades now. Especially after the greninja raid, legit non-hacked 6 IV hidden ability Froakies are flying all over the place.
All I've seen are the hacked ones. I've just been trading 5IV protean ones from all the breeding I've done but I'd like to be that nice when I get the chance
@@smudged4090 how do you tell if a Pokémon is hacked? And if you breed with them does it make ur Pokémon "invalid"?
@@KlTRA Usually hacks are pretty obvious. 6IV shiny hidden ability rare pokemon with a website name are commonplace with hacked pokemon. There are some more subtle ones, but generally hacked pokemon look too good to be true. As for "invalid" I've actually been capitalizing off of a hacked Ditto that was surprise traded to me. All of the offspring have been legitimate with my name and ID on it, so you should be fine.
@@smudged4090 Interesting. Thanks for the info m8.
@@smudged4090 Can you get banned for having hacked pokemon because I got surprised traded a 6IV shiny greninja, hisuian zoroark, and charizard all with website names
This has propably been said before, but Traumato is actually just german for Drowzee. "Traum" is german for "dream", so thats probably why it is namend that way.
The word for dream is part of the English word for trauma. There seems like there’s a connection there but maybe I’m tripping.
@@supreme_king_obama1158 English is just another Germanic based language and the word Trauma exists in both languages and means the same thing
Why do I feel like that haunter was from a person who thought they would get it back as a gengar but didn’t realise they were on surprise trade not a link trade.
Poor Peter
From my experience even regular trade Pokémon don’t get traded back
That or they selected it by accident due to the box sprites not being shiny.
Oh no
Imagine if they forgot their everstone
The melodrama on this channel is what I keep coming back for.
Melodramatic Mikey gives me life.
You can't get auspicious armor in Violet, true. But you CAN get armarouge in Tera Raids so... you could still get one.
While yes that's true, he never said anything about catching other pokemon, only evolving and breeding
I enjoyed this video. I saw the title and was like "Well Obviously the answer is yes." And then Mikey said that he didn't want to waste hours upon hours of his life randomly trading and I just laughed because yeah, that is EXACTLY how I wasted a summer when I got OmegaRuby to complete the dex. I can imagine completing the paldean dex is going to be time consuming this way.
...Omega Ruby has surprise trades?
@@damienearl8302 yes. Although I think it was called wonder trade
@@yukikitsune7366 Welp, if it has the same mechanics, I know what I'm doing next summer!
@@damienearl8302 some minor differences. like you can't do anything while waiting for your trade which is why it took me a whole summer to complete the dex. However because I do not care about whether or not the pokemon I get are hacked or not, I just found a twitch account that trades out hacks and you can try and match up with them to get what you want.
@@yukikitsune7366 For some reason, I can't connect to the internet with my DS, so...sad, but that's pretty cool to know!
I feel like only using Wonder/Surprise Trade would take an eternity in pretty much any game. I tried this in ORAS and I still haven't completed it to this day.
There's someone who did it with Two games already (XY and BDSP)
I used the GTS in USUM
Well I mean.. legendaries are probably never gonna just be randomly given away unless someone is doing a wonderlocke or, what I do, trading away all my mons before restarting a cartridge for some reason
i tried in omega saphrire and it took me 2 years.
@@rique3849 absol blogs
The “if you think you do, you don’t” is hilarious
during holidays, i've noticed a lot of legitimate shinies that people are giving away and it's honestly so sweet. people are a lot nicer with shinies these days. (i've also got accidentally sent shinies and it makes me feel bad)
that hacked ditto is actually incredibly valuable for masuda. if it’s the one i think it is it’s 6iv and italian.
this is a prime example of mikey's creativity and managiing to suprise us
Dont you mean "surprise" us 😉😉😉
Your right
literally
*Managing
@@Julia.Taunton-Clark99 🤓
One cannot describe the excitement I felt at learning you're getting into Dimension 20 as someone who's been watching it for years. I hope you enjoy it!
Yes! Dimension 20 is great! I saw a lot of it this last summer- I did not expect to hear about it here but that's cool
Literally the best show on the internet. Newest season is so good.
Never more has been so entertaining, happy everyone else is liking it.
What is that? And are there other groups?
@@kanevivi Dimension 20 is a Dungeons and Dragons show with 14 different campaigns that've been filmed over the years, with changing casts, settings, etc. It's peak content; pretty much all of em are comedians and even some celebrities that just have fun playing out a story. I think their Dimension 20 channel has at least the first episode of each season out, and some have even full seasons watchable for free here on CZcams. Super worth it!
This was actually really fun and fascinating as I had a similar experience. I wanted to start my playthrough with a shiny Sprigatito and bred with a Lechonk, surprise trading the breedjects. I got so many new 'mons, including a foreign Ditto, and got ~100 dex entries in 162 trades. Also, with the special raid pokemon, if you're like me and suck at doing raids, just wait a few hours after the raid starts and do some trades. I got 5 Froakie the day the Greninja raid started!
Dimension 20 is a definite win, Mikey seems like he’d definitely be a Brennan fan
It's like the CandyEvie videos where she surprise trades a thousand Magnemites! Now that you've had a taste, I'd love to see you react to one of those videos of hers
The speech about shiny gods in the 50 days video really made me think “woah this really has Brennan lee mulligan vibes” and thought nothing more of it, now I know you’ve started watching dimension 20 made it make sense!! It’s so cool knowing two of my fav creators/shows somehow intersect!!
Brennan Lee Mulligan is a genius and I aspire to have his skills
@@MandJTVPlays Yes he is. He changed the way I DM forever. Which campaign are you watching?
Some of Michael's epic rants make me think of Dave Mathew (from the Paper Mario Boss Music argument incident)
Agreed. It's realy fun to watch
Man I really wish Shiny Gengar and the rest of its evo line looked like it's mega. The white looks great on it
White, on a shadow? That's literally backwards. It should be black...
When referring to the "johtoian" Wooper or any Pokemon form that isn't the regional variant, we should be saying the "National Form"
Cause if you catch one in SInnoh, its not exactly Johtonian - it has nothing to do with Johto, but it is in that form nationally except for specific regions, which have the other form
Noted
If I hear "kantonian tauros" one more time Imma be mad
Nobody says that. The idea of "National" lost all weight when this series moved beyond Japanese regions. That's the whole reason why it was called the National Pokédex, you know.
@@gengarzilla1685 look i just want an official thing to call these og forms
If I had a nickel for every shiny tarountula mandjtv found, I'd have two nickels wich isn't alot but it's weird that it happened twice.
The first three full odds shinies I found during my playthrough all happened to be Maschiffs. The next two after that were back to back Litleos within barely ten minutes of each other.
@@DukeDarkshadow Omg you got 3 of them! Atleast they have a good shiny.
@@SomeAwesomeNameHere Yes it is I. Hello brother!
Came here to comment this lol
I’m actually surprised that the website trades have already been started. I didn’t think it would happen for a while. At least the Haunter/Gengar seems legit. Also congrats on the two shiny full odds tarountula.
You seem knowledgeable on the subject. What is so bad about a "website" shiny. And what is a "hacked shiny"?
@@mirage8476 I don’t know much about them myself, but I’ll do my best to explain. “Website or hacked shinies” to my understanding are Pokémon that come from websites that place them into the games through outside means such as modded consoles or computers. They often have perfect IV’s and natures and tend to be named a specific nickname after the website. Although they may not always be nicknamed that. Sometimes they’re easy to spot. Other times, they’re a lot better hidden. The reason these are bad are they were put into the game illegitimately and can sometimes be considered illegal. (Not like breaking the law illegal, but illegal in terms of competitive battling.) They are also considered illegal if they are shinies that cannot be normally obtained like the GEN 9 legends since those are shiny-locked in-game.
@@mirage8476 the main purpose of these website shinies is basically to scam young children. If anyone wanted to hack in Pokemon of their own, they easily could through PKHex. But kids that don't know how to hack will see these website shinies and think they could get more and end up getting scammed.
@@agentomecha634 thank you for helping me :)
6:47 didn’t expect mikey to go full kratos there
Dimension 20 is one of my favorite things to watch in general but especially when grinding in games so I'm so glad to hear you also enjoy it!
I love how he caught a lechonk and turned that into a tinkaton
The fact that I was watching dimension 20 right before this video and I’m pretty sure the exact campaign to being fantasy high is hilarious
"Spring Break! I believe in you!"
It’s Gorgug! Keep going!
It would be sick to see Mikey do a video about Dimension 20.
For levelling up, use a high pevel mon (if someone sends a paradox, it'll be around 60) for 3 and 4 star raids for candies.
If Mikey got a penny for every shiny tarontulas he got... he'd only have 2 pennies but it's kind of weird that it happened twice
i love how mikey can make up something ridiculous and still succeed
Ikr
Correction it’s usually random like how many charmanders he got
I feel like jack is gonna get so jealous bc you got the shiny ditto
Probably
😂
Yea
it's hacked though
No, it's a genesect!
“But I have limited time on this Earth and I don’t intend to spend countless hours waiting for a buffoon to trade away a Koraidon.” 🤣 🤣 😂 😭 💀
He would spend eternity, because Koraidon can't be surprise traded. Same with Miraidon.
Thank you for your patronage. Now I am going to go surprise trade for a bit to get some of the Scarlett Pokemon that I cannot get. Plus the starters!
My first 2 shinies were Lechonk. My third was me breeding charmanders with the Masuda method and it was like the 6th charmander I hatched and haven't had one since.
Congrats on the shinies!
Unfortunately that was my 2nd shiny and my only new shiny. My other 3 are ones I already have
I got Rotom and then skorupi 30 minutes later then 6 months later alpha chatot, all in PLA
my first 2 shinys in scarlet and violet were iron bundle and cetoddle, my third was a shiny slither wing that someone traded me and it seems to be legit (it doesn't have perfect ivs and it has a bad nature) and my fourth was a shiny frookie that I hatched
The second you mentioned Dimension 20 I got like so excited! Always have that on in the background, it's a great show.
Funnily enough I was debating on trying to make as much of a living dex through Wonder Trade as possible. Makes sense that it would take a LONG time and a LOT of trades, especially as you complete more of it
Great video! This brought back a lot of memories. I did something similar to this back in Pokemon X, where I traded away my breeding leftovers to try and get a living dex of unique trainer numbers (minus legendaries of course). I forget how far I got, maybe a little over halfway, before I got bored with it (and frustrated from getting a bajillion Zubats and Bunnebys).
Dimension 20 is incredible, glad to see more people talking about it!
Came here to say this!
Dimension 20 is sooooo good
@@timtamtube3683 I know
@@timtamtube3683 it really is
D20 is Jedi approved
Technically every non friend trade that gives you a good thing can be defined as a "surprise"
So yes regardless
Yep. Took far too long to complete the entries for the other game. Took a lot of Eiscue to get the Scarlet exclusives.
Sometimes I actually mass breed starters/trade evos/exclusives and surprise trade them to people in case they don’t have people to play with and/or don’t use Reddit or something to find them (also things like scorbunny and charmander in case people missed those events) just because I’ve been in their shoes just hoping and praying lol.
Yeah, I do that too.
I love this! I'm gonna start doing that too.
People who surprise trade pokemon with funny names are the backbone of this community
Maybe the reason Peter traded away that shiny Haunter was because he didn’t know it was shiny.
Peter is just on a quest to right the wrongs Mindy committed.
Doubtful. It shows their shinyness on the status screen, not just the sprite.
@@gengarzilla1685 Yeah but if you already don’t think it’s shiny and are just trading it away, you could either not notice or just not think to look in the first place, especially if you’re new to the game and don’t know that’s a thing
As soon as I saw the title I was like "oh God, he is doing a wonder trade gauntlet" then I heard the limit and was like "oh thank god he won't have to go through that torture"
I went up into 276 Pokémon in the dex with your method
So useful, I hope people can find this so interesting to fill up the dex
17:12 no Mikey, you ain't got 3 more Chanseys, you've got 3 more Lechonks.
14:11 Traumato is the german name for Drowzee so I don't think it got renamed to that
surprise trading is a great feature
Also agreed
I catch exclusives (usually paradoxes but not always) and surprise trade them away. I have an insane amount of money in this game from the amulet coin and catching gives exp so I figured why not. Hopefully they make someone happy.
I've been able to fill most of my Violet Pokedex by trades including the few that are Scarlet exclusives. There's still a bit more I need for completion but I'll continue to trade including a bunch of late stage pokemon to help others out.
Psst Mikey! You can absolutely breed a shiny Charmander; I caught the Charizard and Masuda method it with a Spanish Ditto ☺️
I've also caught a shiny Screaming Tail as well, so... As long as the Screaming tail is caught higher than level 40 something... It's legit, dude!
Sorry I meant Fluttermanr lol
He's well aware that charmander is in the game. He was referring to the fact the they are from a hacking website rather than from someone breeding it
Honest question: how can you tell?
@@animalia5554 the nickname will be that of the website rather than it's standard name or it's a shiny of a Pokemon that currently does not have it's shiny released like keldeo
@@TlocRevelc ahhh ok I getcha :)
I think the completionist completed this exact challenge on his channel and it is coming out today
Thank you Mikey I’m learning a lot more of Pokémon just watching your video’s it makes me even more excited to continue playing Pokémon
MandJtv: ooh, a gulpin. GULPIN DEEZ N-
editor:*cuts the clip*
Whoever surprise traded that shiny Haunter without an everstone is an absolute Chad of a person
For some reason I’ve got several Paradox Pokémon through Surprise Trade, but they’ve all been Brute Bonnet, except for a hacked shiny Iron Bundle whose OT name was a link to a website.
1:25 Well at least the camera didn't inexplicably cut out this time and we actually saw what's underneath Diglett. A chunk of earth with a dimensional portal inside.
I see this title and I think oh that's cool then I think again and I'm like hail no I can't do this. Props to you Mikey
My first full odds shiny in Violet was a LeChonk, which I found approximately 10 minutes into playing in the tutorial area. I was very excited lmao
Mikey is going to absolutely despise this
I got Lechonk as my second full odds shiny, just ambling around near Levincia! I love her dearly. Also had fletchling, fletchinder (!) and I bred an azumarill within five eggs which will never happen to me again haha
Same here, but in Scarlet! My first wild shiny ever in a main series pokemon game (not counting PLA)
@@charadreemurr4839 What because the color of Shiny Lechonk looks like Miltank how could you?!
@@dominicvega1678 I did not know about that more reason for the hatred then thanks
My first playthrough starting from launch day was a surprise trade nuzlocke that i further limited to just gen 9 pokemon, re-trading each catch till i got something new. By the end of the first box it took like 45 min of repeat re-trading for each catch, so lessened the limit to any non-repeat at that point. Still ended up in the repeat loop like a box and a half later, but by that point i had caught something in just about every location and about finished the story so nuzlocke was basically over anyway. Following that stricter ruleset, though factoring in the varied catches along the way for trade fodder, i also ended up with about 70-ish percent dex completion after evolution/breeding, it just took longer lol.
This kind of inspires me to just start going into Pokémon, getting Pokémon, & surprise trading good Pokémon so I can be like Santa.
been doing a bit of surprise trading myself to help with my dex, and i do feel like people are a lot more generous with their trades than in previous gens. i know i've been trying to trade out version exclusives from my game, including paradox pokemon, the fire tauros, armarouge, and of course some starters! and i've only received one hacked shiny so far, which i promptly released lol
This guy's not only a poketuber but a pokescientist, a realistic one
Honestly, I love it when you present stats on your video. 😊
Dimension 20 while surprise trading has literally been my entire vibe these past few weeks
Love the video and keep up the great work mikey
So I recently decided to try and beat scarlet only using surprise trade and as soon as I do, pm7 makes a video on that. Now Im half way through and Im wondering "I wonder how long it would take me to complete the pokedex this way" and then heres this video😂
I did a ton of surprise trades recently trying to get the starters, it was easier to get almost all the scarlet version exclusives than to use the link codes.
It's funny how he reads Traumato and goes like "yeah sum's up the BS I've had with it." While the "Traum" part actually means dream in German. 🤣
Peter might’ve traded you the haunter purposefully trying to get it to evolve. He thought might’ve thought you would trade it back.
He should have been using link trades for that. Must be a mistake.
Mikey saying he got into Dimension 20 made me ridiculously happy, not gonna lie 😂
I'm glad to see you get a full odds shiny, since I also got one, a Venonat that I found after getting demolished by the Grass gym leader.
Bidoof dod has blessed you. Hail yeah.
Getting legit shinies in random trades makes me so happy, so I’m glad you got the novel experience of Peter’s kindness. I’ve received (and released) a zillion illegitimate ones, but the two legit ones have my heart 💕
This makes me want to do a wonderlocke
2 uploads 1 weekend!
keep it up mikey 🥳
I 100% agree!
dude.. i, too, have been grinding up pokemon levels while watching dimension 20 recently! the unsleeping city is very good
8:22 the correct response to seeing a Tinkaton
Getting a shiny haunter that evolves into gengar is ultimate luck. I'd actually cry.
Did you ever get a galarian Meowth from OT Phoenix? I got a Lechonk with OT Mikey a few days ago, but it's a very common name so I didn't consider the possibility until this video came up.
Michael: I will catch more than 400 lechonk!
The shines that did not spawn (or not included in the video): am I a joke to you.
Man feeling kinda cool that I got my full odds shiny before him
It was a mareep- I was trying to find a female eevee for breeding- ampharos’s shiny is so cool
13:54 ahh yes drugs
The shiny chArmander wasn’t hacked cause they could’ve bred the Charizard from the seven star raid a while ago and got some shinies with the Mesaad method
Uh, no, that's definitely hacked.
@@gengarzilla1685 it's definitely possible to breed down the six iv mighty Charizard for a shiny Charmander with at least five perfect ivs dude
It was hacked. While theoretically possible to be legit, its OT was a name that, when googled, brought up a website/bot specifically trading out shinies (which means they're generated)
@@MandJTVPlays is this the real Mandjtv plays cause YOUR SO UNLUCKY CHILD
@@MandJTVPlays Also castform should have a thunder form I mean like THUNDER IS WAY TOO COMMON yet castform doesn’t have a thunder form
I give away my whole team and any interesting extras I've found before i reset my file for a new playthrough. My first shiny was a Garados I named Blue. He's out there floating around in surprise trade now. 😂
My first somewhat full odds shiny was a Fidough. I did kinda look for it, some would say hunt, but without any shiny charm or outbreak or sandwich to raise the odds. Just... intensely checking a zone where it spawned.
“Hi, my name is Mikey, but you can call me Sceptile”
Love this comment
Keep up the good work Mikey
nothin like a good mandjtv video to chill and watch
The fact you didn't get 20 froakies is the most shocking thing to me. I got five in a row just trading them back and forth before I got anything that wasn't froakie
You can see mikey slowly going insane in this video and I love it
I am so happy you like Dimension 20
I like catching good Pokemon and surprise trading them away on the off chance that they go to someone who needs them for their dex, or just wants one. Fully embracing the "surprise" part of the trade. XD
Me with no friends and one switch,
"I sure hope so!"
I'm glad people are trading more diverse and dificult to get pokemon. I usually catch a bunch of area zero mons to both train my mons and surprise trade the duplicate version exclusives. Hopefully it makes someone's day
I actually did a wonder trade bingo with a friend today, and to both our surprise neither of us ended up with a Paradox Mon, since they seem to be fairly common based on similar vids I've seen here. I did end up picking up a Website Shiny, though... And my friend and I ended up matching for a trade, which was hilarious given the odds of that happening.
I once caught a box full of Iron Hands, picked out the best one to train, and sent out the rest to people. I hope it helped someone complete their dex. The only paradox I ever got, that I couldn't catch myself was Sandy Shocks. The rest, I all had to ask for, to complete my dex...
Peter either never noticed it was shiny when he got it (that line’s shiny is not obvious and it can be easy to miss the sparkles if you’re distracted) or he already had one and thought he would make someone’s day.
Probably the latter. I have a shiny Haunter and I will definitely trade it away once I can transfer my shiny Gengar over from Home.
Mom: what are you doing?
Me: oH nothing, just watching 20 mins of Michael saying "oooooh"
Fun fact: if you got a pokémon via surprise trade it as a really small change of having the once in a lifetime mark
Seems like a really fun video. Can’t wait to watch!
Surprised you didn’t get tarontula earlier, I get tons of route 1 Pokémon when I surprise trade
I suspect that Peter caught a shiny gastly, didn't want it for whatever reason, and went "hey, you know what would be REALLY funny"
Love how mikey was first like: how many wonder trades would it take to complete the pokedex?, to: I am having an existential crisis.
Good idea, love your content mikey!