Final Fantasy VIII - The Castle | Reacting To Video Game Music!
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I always felt that FF8 was among the most experimental soundtracks of Uematsu's work. Although the majority of the songs you hear while playing do seem to have a running theme or matching style, the standout tracks that folks remember the most are so unique compared to the rest of the OST, and Uematsu's discography in general. Love it or hate it, you're definitely in for a ride.
8 is always a hard sell, however whatever anyone feels, no one can fault the music and skills of Nobuo Uematsu.
8 was superior to 7. Everyone was just a sephiroth simp.
this melody still gives me chills every time. I remember arriving to that place and the music started playing and I thought "cool", then arrived at the gates and the music shifted completely to that shift that still sends shivers down my spine. I froze at the gates. One of my absolute favourites in this game.
I will never forget the walk up with all the SeeD bodies and everything being so otherworldly
The Castle is VERY MUCH an environmental piece and it will absolutely make sense within context, but I feel more than anything after coming off the massive success of 7, everyone kinda knew they weren't going to be able to capture lightning in a bottle twice, so they just threw caution to the wind and as such 8 is one of the most experimental games both in terms of music, gameplay, and even story. It's such an outlier in virtually every sense of the the word for FF that it really sticks out because of that - in a good way imo.
8 and 13 are by far the 2 most divisive games. For 8, I hate the story and love the gameplay. The way the enemies level up as you level, how do doesn’t mean as much as the GFs and junctions and GF abilities, and the draw mechanic and summoning HP mechanic are all great twists on a then-dated battle system. But that GF memory story thing was crap.
VIII’s score is better than VII’s.
VI and VIII are Uematsu’s masterpieces. They easily transcend their games in scope, depth and emotion.
This is one of the greatest final dungeon pieces to ever be created. It’s intensely well thought out. The only thing maybe holding it back is the sound limitations of the PS at the time.
How Uematsu ever came up with VIII soundtrack with its wide variety of styles but also a very single minded them of Fithos Lusec Wecos Venosec is absolutely beyond me.
It is a work of art. It is a singular moment of pure unabashed brilliance.
@Alessandro Montrone Not to mention, Balamb Garden, Love Grows, so many others. A masterpiece of a soundtrack
@@BlakeAustin2011 of all story beats to dislike ff8 for, I have to admit I never expected someone to specifically single out the GF memory thing.
Is it because it's too much coincidence about the main cast (trying not to spoil) ? if so I could see it, but on the other hand FFs have often dabbled into the destiny topic and I see it this way.
@@nejaahalcyonall of the characters are coming back together after separate are standard trope for lot of games. However the memory lost by GF plot is being told from the beginning and throughout the story too. It is not the games fault of you aren't paying attention.
When you get to the castle, you'll understand why you would feel the way you felt listening to this lol
O.M.E.G.A. oof
I love how this track is terrifying, creepy, threatening and playful all at the same time…. It perfectly sums up the location and antagonist.
Oh boy, this part of the game on my 1st playthrough was nuts 😨
I literally just listened to this song yesterday because I was feeling nostalgic for the game! Glad you're gonna give it a try, ff8's music seriously was a jump in quality in my opinion. Not saying the previous ones are worse (nononono) but you can see Nobuo try more things while keeping the classic ff vibes. The organ part honestly reminds me of Dancing mad from ff6 :)
It's interesting that the organ reminds you of Dancing Mad, considering that the harpsichord/flute segments reminded me of Kefka's Theme.
This theme is so wicked. It goes from a Dancing Mad's 3rd movement-like introduction to a vampire castle theme and to a tick-tock part which seems to represent Ultimecia's supreme authority over time and like you said very Castlevania-like, also because in the location it plays in there are clock gears, exactly like in Dracula's Castle.
In addition, the percussion in that part has given me the same kind of ominous machinery vibe that you could hear in Ace Combat 4's "Megalith - Agnus Dei"
@Alessandro Montrone Thank you :) that's me in front of the Ponte degli Alpini in Bassano del Grappa (VI)
The Castle still has to be one of my fav locations and piece from FFVIII... Perfect.
For my fellow FFVIII players:
「Release which seal?」
[Item]
[Magic]
[GF]
[Draw]
[Command Ability]
[Limit Break]
[Resurrection]
👉 [Save]
If anyone is wondering why this song is ALL over the place, remember it's like in the future where a sorceress lives and she wants to compress time, the music reflects it very well.
This soundtrack is phenomenal. So weird and unique.
The castle within the compressed time
FFVIII has one of my absolute fav video game soundtracks, IF not my favorite, so I'm always happy to see you react to them :')
Never heard this before and his face tells my exact reaction from 2:35
One of the biggest improvements to come with FF8 was the incredibly high quality of its instrument samples. You mentioned in the Eyes of Me video that the quality of those vocal tracks were far better than FF7's One winged Angel, but the technical quality of the score was lifted up across the board. You can't really imagine a track like this coming before FF8.
Yea I noticed that for sure
@@JessesAuditorium I've honestly wondered if the reason Final Fantasy 8's score is so disparate and varied across the board is because Uematsu was basically experimenting with all the new tools and sounds at his disposal. Anyway, enjoying the nostalgia trip -- enjoy your play through of FF8!
@@jsteimel You're probably right. FF8's engine allowed for loading samples on a track-by-track basis, wheras FF7 basically had to hold them all in memory at the same time.
@JessesAuditorium the game's system was amazing at the castle, so much ao that different parts of the song resonated different parts of the castle and I was like....".. I am in a Fun bounce house castle in Hell"
One of those songs that I've never listened to that closely, lots of cool elements here. I love how your channel let's me spend time with songs I've always slept on.
I really hope you enjoy FF8 dude, personally one of my fav final fantasy games!
They were Wilding on the FF VIII Soundtrack
Wow, never thought you'd come around to this one 🙂 awesome.
FamilyJules did an awesome metal version of this during a top 10 last dungeon songs.
You're inn for a treat 🤘
Love that version! And then Venus Lighthouse straight after, can't unhear it now.
though it has a lot of faults this will always be my fave final fantasy, the story and soundtrack just do it for me, I love the way the game enables you to play both low level playthrough but also has the early game super power levelling through cards, and then you get to that final dungeon and this music hits, the whole giant gothic castle setting and all the bosses just fantastic
One thing I noticed listening to this, was that " pipe clashing sound" heard on the song is the same thing you hear in the crater in FF7
so far, this has been my favorite.
your face during each change is CLASSIC. LMFAO.
im not a musician so i dont know how common this is, but i love how the bass notes of the organ feel like they are responding to the high throughout the song.
The era of music this is referencing did that quite a lot. I'm not sure *which* era it's referencing specifically, I think it's baroque? That's my gut instinct, but I could be wrong? However, counterpoint is kind of what you're thinking of, I think. It's the name for having two separate melodies at the same time that complement each other - very popular at the time, but doesn't see much use nowadays, likely due to the complexity of how it's written.
@@JetBalrog this is based off a fugue :)
@@michaelcollins8992 Oh that does not surprise me one bit :)
@@michaelcollins8992the very beginning is fugue-like, but nothing after that I don’t think
Great to see some ff8 love here. I hope someone donates another memorable song called Succession of Witches or the parade version, one of the most unique music in the game.
I'm so glad for this song, I was secretly expecting it would come up someday but not with a lot of hope, this is an underrated gem and if you play the game you'll see why tbh
This is one of my favorite tracks in the game
You almost need to hear the songs without knowing their titles. Unlike a lot of reaction tubers, you really go deep in your analyses and especially for this one the title played a part in how you took it in. How one would go about that I have no idea 😂
This score is so unique I still have to find a piece like that. And I searched it so much.
Once you hit the Castle and then the the very end of the game you get the grandness of this song. Its forecasting a fucking marathon of a final boss fight sequence. I absolutely love the beginning part.
FF7 was really experimental overall, especially with it's music, FF8 ramped everything up to 11 in terms of experimenting(least favorite to play but many of my favorite songs and characters), and then FF9 was basically a love letter to traditional JRPGs set in medieval times. The PS1 era of FF was wild man. If only I was born 2 or 3 years earlier, that way I could have appreciated them better as they released. I only got them afterwards, with the first FF game I got on launch or close to launch being 10-2 or Tactics Advance.
I think that you were kinda saying that jokingly, but that comment of the start sounding initially like a dead signal actually makes a ton of sense in context to the setting, and narrative of the antagonist ultimecia as we come to understand her motivations in the game. Wow.
o_O
@@JessesAuditorium Uh maybe that was too far of a stretch then again sorry lol
One of my top 3 favorite areas in a final fantasy game if not the first
Unfortunately I had to go to bed for work when these premieres were scheduled, I'm here for them now though lol.
Like everyone else has said - this piece of music really needs to be played along side the game. The joyful start as you arrive at the final dungeon and you're like - ok this isn't too bad - but then that organ kicks in and you see the titular Castle all torn to bits and floating through time and it just makes you freeze like....oh no.....
The song being all over the place also ties in with the fact that you're drifting though different time zones and areas
The man with the machine gun 🔥
I had a dream one time with this music and a dark Castle. That was something...
I'll be honest, ff8 and 15 are the ones I vibe with the most musically. I'm also huge Castlevania fan and artistically, this FF has the closest vibe to it out of all FF games.
I'm into Gothic art and also progressive music. FF8 has plenty of most and The Extreme is my favorite ff last boss track, not One Winged Angel.
Every time I hear this song 🎵 I go to the darkest parts in my mind
this one always remids me of Dancing Mad a little bit
You should hear the final boss theme that incorporates these chords. You can tell how these scores helped make 9's ost so good too.
7's "The nightmare's" beginning is close tho. czcams.com/video/4nfDoh9kzJA/video.htmlsi=_WgmR3merVwjQL_X
Man, I need to do an FF8 playthrough sometime. I've only ever seen the entire game, just once, way back when it first came out. Every time I'd try to start another playthrough, I either get stuck on a puzzle, or I get a game over because I forgot to switch GFs before a boss fight, or something stupid and end up getting discouraged. One of these days I need to just knuckle down and do it.
around 3:25 i had the sudden realization "OH, it's like clocks ticking! because time compression!" (maybe i'm just filling it in with my imagination but still that's the vibe)
happy you're gonna play this game. the theme of this track is hidden, it's a recurrent theme in many tracks of this game. nobuo uematsu is something else.
Best end game location out of all FF in my opinion, epic
You should try Lunatic Pandora from this game. It's really overwhelming.
This encapsulates the essence of mystery, looming danger, dominance, and an eldrich darkness thats almost blasphemous
I can almost hear multiple "castle" and endgame themes from multiple sources of media (mostly in final fantasy such as a reminiscent theming from Dancing Mad, Castle Pandemonium, and Chaos Shrine)
It's a bit ironic that you observed that this feels very different from FFVII. There's a track on the FFVIII OST that is called Premonition and it is used in conjunction with a character originally intended for FFVII. Premonition very noticeably borrows from the leitmotif of the FFVII Main Theme. I'm curious to see if you'll notice it when you get to the first point in the game where it plays.
Everything in FF8 up to this point is very modern and unique, so this is one of the more striking songs in the ost to contrast with the setting. Going from cities and such, traveling through time to find a villain living in a medieval castle. A lot in FF8 subverts the classic Final Fantasy tropes, at least with setting. EXCEPT for this finale dungeon.
One of the greatest final dungeon theme songs.
"Bizzare, Strange, Dark, Gothic." Just wait till you actually see the place this song is played in. Everything will make sense.
Will the FF8 stream VODs be uploaded here eventually? It's not viewable on Twitch :(
Half the songs do have a theme using julia's eyes on me sprinkled within, see if you can find it in the songs, its in many of them.
2:15 4:29 these few bars were always my fave
Every time i hear this, i instantly think of The Tyrano Castle from Chrono Trigger
Where can I listen to your music, Sir?
You’re gonna play FF8? Good luck with the card/junction system. 😁
This song ist amazing. We need to think that when Squall and the others are in the castle, at the beginning you don't have anything ...you can just attack🤣 and after that you defite every monster you can choose one by one the abilities that you want to have again...so this piece of music tells you already from beginn...ok guys....we have a problem 🤣
I can't even imagine what you are thinking listening to this song with no context haha.
FF 8 is the absolute best. Fishermans Horizon is still awesome in my book.
I remember the first time I heard this (being the first of my friends to get this far in the game) at first I thought something had happened that caused the game to play the wrong song. Then the organ nation attacked.
To be fair FF8's disks were REALLY prone to having game breaking faults with the slightest scratch. I think I went through 3 or 4 sets of disks in 10 years and I wasn't even that rough with them.
If you're playing the original and not remastered, i'm not sure if it still works or stands but i used the roses and wine mod to make the music the original, as otherwise things will sound... different.
Music-wise I think you really need context for this.. And even with that it wont be enough. You need to look at the enviroment I guess. The confused look @2:35 though!
FF8 is literally the "my chemical romance" poster you see at the beginning of FF7. something to think about
you shouldve listened to sucession of witches too
So for the parts that don't match they actually match more to the other witch pieces Nobou composed for FF8 like Succession of Witches, in my opinion, placed to remind you of why you are in a castle that time no longer applies to.
Vou should hear some Shin Megami Tensei (especially shin megami tensei 1 and shin megami tensei: if) music. Their soundtrack are really good!
Did you listen the "Man with a machinegun" yet? It's like it's not even from the same story. Which makes perfect sense once you play the game.
Fun fact: All ff8 music was performed by a live orchestra. Ff8 is my personal favorite I'm so happy I'm going to get to see someone experience this jewel live.
Is there a link to the live performance somewhere?
Yeah, no. Aside from a few of the big tracks like Liberi Fatali which are fully orchestrated, the soundtrack is all sequenced.
The Very Definitely Final Dungeon of the game...
Your comments about the emotions that the song is trying to evoke are far more accurate than you know.
When you get to that part of the game, you'll see why.
It's very different from 7. Everything. Yet it excuses FF ( unlike 12 13 and 15. 14 and 11 doesn't count)
One of my favorite FFVII OST 🎉