Too Much Nitrous!! 1600+HP 2JZ Teardown - Baltic Supra Engine
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- čas přidán 20. 10. 2022
- In todays video we teardown @BalticSupraRacing Nitrous 2JZ engine. Pedro is no stranger to pushing the limits. Today we find out what happened during his previous race that lead to blown engine. Find out what happened and what failed.
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I say this time and again. Put a deck chair in the corner of that engine room and some "refreshments" and I could sit and watch Jay build 2JZ's all day. 😎👍
My poor 2jz. We live and learn. Blessed to have Real St on board. Let’s go for 6’s
You'll get it amigo. But now that we're both here, you said you had just an 88mm, not an 88/108! What the hell bro?! 😂🤣 Overkill much? 😛 Definitely the 85/103 will be much better and with Jay and Geo proving it with 6.70s already, you know it's more than enough. 😎👍 Maybe even the 91mm front later on. 😈
Good Luck Race Fam
RACEEEEEEEE FAMMMMALEEEEEEEHHHHHH
what was your A/R on the 88/108?
@@A2J_Tim 1.28, going down to a 1.15 now
Always a learning experience.....Hands down one of the best channels on CZcams. Jay has a way of explaining things so it easy to understand.
LET'S GO JAY!!🏁
Baltic Supra is awesome....
These "fly on a wall" unscripted videos are the best. Just to hang around and learn more and more from Jay. Thanks again! Not that I'd ever be chasing more than 800 in my build is very interesting to hear what happens when you double that power!
Teacher Jay.... I had to wait until I got home to watch it on the Big Screen. RACE FAMBILY WAH GWAAN.
1st of the Race Family!!! 🏁🏁🏁
Cooking the oil is an ingenious idea. The benefits of it are ideal. Evaporation of extra fuel mixed in the oil 💡 and then it being warm before starting up for the next round 🔔 AWESOME!!! If y’all don’t know already MIR gets 🥶 and a lot of extra stress is put on these engines from the temperatures there.
New to geeking out/being a car enthusiast and Real st. channel is by far one of my favorites. Jay knows his engines and I enjoy listening and watch him be a Wizard 🔥🤘
LOVE these 2jz teardowns! would watch them reguarly with ease!
Jay is a guru ! What a mastermind. Thank you for sharing all these tips
some people would make you pay for seminars for the type of info he provides, i can listen to him explain stuff all day
My favorite phrase Jay said was “mechanical diarrhea” but it totally makes sense lol.
Good luck with the engine Jay. I'm holding thumbs for Baltic Supra's next event. Thanks for sharing.
Damn that’s rough. Racings expensive. Powers addictive. Good times.
One of the best vids I've seen lately. Great, very calmly explanation of what happened with this engine👍
i have an e92 335i drag car thats a wet sleeved darton n54 block with 12:1 compression, wiseco pistons and boostline rods, ported n53 head, 288/284 +12mm cams, inconel /titanium vales, ferrea springs, running on maxxecu, port injection only with a 250 shot of direct port wet nitrous. its setup for 9000rpm but limited to the 8500rpm. the first engine i built with this setup, the oil wasnt getting warm enough to cycle after staging or if the car wasnt warmed up for 10-15 minute. Racing pushing 30psi of boost and spraying goofy gas above 6000rpm was too much for the oem oiling system. i learned about those oil pan heaters the hard way myself. took a while to figure out wich oil to run, how to setup the pistons for said oil, and fuel etc. I highly recommend the oil pan heaters and an accusump system, would have saved me 10 grand.
It,a amazing to me. That I have been watching jay's tech tips for ever. But the learning never stops. Glad it can be fixed pedro awesome work jay
I wish there were more people like Jay over here in the UK. I want to do a streetable and reliable 1000bhp build and yet I'm confused by the many different options and routes to choose. Also in my area mechanics aren't very knowledgeable and I'm super fussy about who I let touch my cars. If I had the money I'd opt to ship to or buy from RealStreet for sure!
Joe biden will give you money well as long as your not American
Pedro is back with American Express 😂 Pedro I really hope you got into the 6's after this rebuild 😄
Love the Pink Floyd poster. Nothing beats working in the shop listening to some Pink Floyd
Love the videos! So informative
Those last tips about the oil on that cooler temperature on Maryland was free 👌👍
Big money Pedro over here! RACE FAM!!!
U can tell Pedro is constantly thinking about racing .
What a shame! I wonder if having an egt warning could have helped avoid this.
I just want to say thank you Jay for helping out Pedro. Seeing Pedro going 6s in the WCF is going to be epic!
LETS GO BALTIC SUPRA RACING!
The EGT sensor would go from normal to dead in a nanosecond. Nitrous is a band-aid solution because of improper turbo selection. Fix the root cause and you don’t end up with a torched head.
@@TML34 the turbo size needed to run a 6 sec time will always have lag on our small engines. Nitrous will continue to be part of the equation just hopefully less of it with the changes I have made.
Yup, when tuning customers 60% of the guys lug their engines in daily driving below 1500rpm (obviously not happening here) and off the first datalog we see knocks all over the place. We try to educate our customers the Honda Jseries larger displacement engine (3.5 and especially 3.7) do not like lugging. We can pull enough timing to stop it but the car will be lethargic and many times it's on the customer to change their driving habits, which sometimes don't happen so we yank the timing. I'm just saying high loads at low RPM is not good, that's all I'm getting at
Great content guys.
Nothing like learning how to torch stuff in the pursuit of going fast.. love the head work a new category of flow..😂😂
Could listen to Jay all day! What a legend and guru! Where do I get one of those sump heaters by the way? I’m in the UK, gets cold here and it seems like a great idea.
or can you link us, im building a similar engine and would love to run one
*Pedro sprays nitrous*
Engine: "Too soon junior"
everytime i watch one of these videos i learn somthing new MEGA
Not a 2jz guy but like to watch the builds ...
Hi fresh air anti lag could work? Love to se some other source of anti lag to spool big turbos. Cheers great videos!
Jay is the freakin' man! ♡ this guy!
You have given us a wealth of knowledge through these videos Jay. Thank you.
Surprised they’re honing/repairing just one cylinder instead of starting over completely. Great video and build.
McLeod makes a line launch kit for manual transmissions you can stage up a manual just like an auto with a trans brake I’m sure Tilton has something similar too
Yeah.... I kinda figured that it was way too much...Boost. 💥💥💥. You should get Jay on board with you tuning this baby for the track. No disrespect for your tuner but Jay knows what too and not too in the aspect of racing this platform with huge power as you have. Either way it's a huge learning curve. Now go back and get what's yours. 🌟🌟🌟💯🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁😉
Yooo! Block heaters! Never thought of them as race car ish before!
Do you think that anti-lag would be best for the 108mm turbo vs the nitrous?
Wish i had the 2jz doctor build my 2 jz ge to q 2jz gte build your work is clean and best thank you sir
Great vid. Too bad companies like Dart/ World Products dont offer heavy duty cast blocks and heads for popular imports like they do with domestics.
Other companies do, I think platinum racing
Not sure if they are running a dump valve to let the converter get up to rpm but if not it would help drastically.
Jay mentions it at 13:30
Real st you need to make a shirt with a picture of a holy oil pan and parts and oil on the floor with mechanical dairria written under it that would be awsome
We use oil pan heaters in Australia for our methanol burnout cars
Bigger dont always mean better. great you learned
Would like to hear more info prepping a car in the lanes. Liked hearing what oil coolant temp should be.
Baltic Supra Racing ❤
Were there any other factors that affected "just" cylinder 2? Plugged or failed injector? Would be curios to know...........
Does a converter dump help ?
Are those pistons the 1600hp ones or 2000hp ones.
Dump Valve on Converter to help loosen it when stalling up?
2 JAY Z Dr. 💪💪💪
What do you think or have any experience on a Compound set up?
Did you have direct port nitrous?
It’s an addiction!!!
Why not sequential Turbos or Twin parallel smaller turbos? Maybe a supercharger to spool the Turbo...
I would love to convert an inline 6 Cummins diesel engine, to a petrol engine, like a 2JZ. I think that would be so cool.
@15:30 Are you guys talking Temperatures in Fahrenheit or Celsius ? Also is that for Race Engines only?
What would you consider good for Street/Race Application CLT & Oil Temps ?
I don't think 150-160 starting oil temp in Celsius would work very well :D
I personally get off track once water gets to 100C and oil is 110'ish max, although I know good oil can be pushed further (130s).
Fahrenheit brotha
@@BoostHunters since 100c is the boiling point of water, probably a good idea to shut things down. 😅
@@TML34 Whether you're mixing anti-freeze or running a higher pressure rad cap, you can increase the boiling point of your cooling system a fair bit, so 100C is fairly acceptable I would say.
How much nitrous did it take to blow it up? I'm asking so I don't make the same mistake. Big turbo/auto small ci car here.
@jay what about putting a procharger on the car wouldn't it spool quicker?.
its parasitic
I'm curious why you are not using compound turbo system like 4 cylinder guys?
because they're not at 1000hp per litre yet
My understanding is the 64/66 is the most recommended and praised "Goldilocks" turbo size on the 2JZ platform without requiring nitrous to spool. Jay, do you agree it "doesn't belong on a Supra"?
Jay thinks the 64/66 is a great everyday turbo. He has made as much as 1018whp with it on a Supra.
I’m the one who likes the larger more powerful turbos.
In my opinion if a person is running a turbo they don't need nos also because they're just asking for problems
recently I saw a cylinder head with something like a passage of flow between the two valves exhaust, admission, I think to avoid this phenomenon of deterioration
nothing like turning a cylinder into an oxy torch and melt it down . that cyl got more air or not enough fuel . do number 2 cyl usually go in 2j engines when you put a huge turbine on it and run certain boost levels . engines all have their quirks when you up the volumes of air . fluid dynamics do weird things when flows get pushed . or did you just have an injector not upto the task with the boost and nitrous were on full noise .
Why should a 64/66 not be on a supra? I was under the impression it a outstanding street turbo for less then 900whp...
Your correct, Jay believes it’s a great everyday turbo for 800-900 hp range. I’m the one who is it not a fan. I rather start with a 76/75 to achieve that same goal and have room to grow. Also more speaking to the eye under the hood lol
Lmfao the little 6466 “one that should not belong on a Supra” man a 6466 2J makes for a fun street car come on man
Shit was funny though 😂
DART 2JZ time
Why didnt he go to, "jesse'? he could of tune it for 6s with a nitrous fogger with a standalone fuel management system.
Its imbossible to have too much..
Sounds like a huge PITA for a few less tenths.
Gotta hit 6’s, BRO!! 😂
Correct!
Bruh wtf 😬
1600hp would only blow if u on pump gass lololol
20 min vid talking about damage but never show damage RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I am very poor and all I want to do is build my blown up g35. Will you guys please help me. I don’t want money. If any way possible will you guys please help me with parts. My dream is to make my first pass on a drag strip. I have never been on one or even seen one in person. But I watch and wait for every one of your videos and Cleetus McFarlands videos 1320video,KSR,pfi speed etc. I just want and dream to go fast but will never be able to afford it.
Toyota MKIV 2JZGTE > BMW MKV B58
Some of you guys have no common sense or what?
Obviously when he was comparing turbo choices he didn’t mean anything negative just that your “6466” is not in his ballpark of power range.
Like where is everyone’s brain Thats butthurt?
CZcams MUST pay well. This guy and his wife quit their full time job and went full time CZcams, sold their house, purchased high $$ motor home, full size trailer, the CJ5, multiple motors in the Supra with an EASY $400k+ in that Supra ...
I have a 6466 on my Supra. Thumbs down on this video.
you all should hate this man. hes the reason we are having reasons sourcing 2j parts and heads. this derp right here blowing up everything every other run. i hope this dude eats it and stops racing.
Imagine NHRA top fuel methanol engines parts get TOASTy after a run. 😭😭😭🪙🪙🪙🪙🪙🪙🪙🪙🧃🧃🧃💯