Sociopath Discusses Amber Heard VS Johnny Depp (Trial, Relationship, BPD & HPD)
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2022
- Here is my take a professionally diagnosed sociopath (ASPD) on the Amber Heard vs. Johnny Depp court battle. This is a unique perspective on the matter where I also discuss borderline and histrionic personality disorders and how it could have affected their relationship.
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I find it beyond appalling that you have gotten rape threats for any reason let alone for being honest and *VULNERABLE* to raise awareness on this topic.
More common than we are able to discuss often. There are almost zero pros of coming out with a mental health issue in this current online age it’s used to demonize. Small pockets of communities fixate on those who speak openly and it is rather obsessive. I can verify that this happens to other mental health creators through firsthand experience as well.
@@LiminalDoll if you are talking about yourself I want you to know that what you do is important and noble and that I appreciate you for doing it. If you are no talking about yourself I appreciate those people.
Why would people even give such a threat I'm appalled... death threats i can kiiiiiind of understand (i'm not saying it's ok just saying i can understand how or why someone would say that) but omg rape threats are just a different level of evil
@@hashtagmate hmmm... it's interesting how you determined which threat is worse than the other instead of thinking that both are extremely horrible threats that can cause harm to the potential victim. Rape is just as bad a murder. Neither should be used as a threat.
@@xxarianahiltonxx5116 I believe they feel that both are of course bad and terrible. But threats of a deviant sexual nature are of a different realm. Even murderers have deep hate for sexual sickos.
correction: johnny depp did not sue amber in the UK, he sued The Sun for calling him a wife beater.
Didn't watch the trial, so please bear with me when I ask: Why is everyone saying she lied when he lost his suit because The Sun "had evidence"?
@@BlaecOleander jd’s team was not permitted to scrutinize her evidence in the UK because she was a witness and not the defendant. Therefore she was able say whatever she wanted and not really be challenged. The judge took her at her word. He was quite impressed that she had given away her $7 million divorce settlement - but in the US that was revealed to be one of many many lies
Thank you for analyzing this trial. I'm a therapist who specializes in cluster B personality disorders, especially narcissism. I have to say, I don't think she has HPD. She may have some bpd traits for sure, that I do agree with. However I do believe she definitely has narcissistic personality traits, not HPD. Again, thank you for the video!
What's your opinion on someone who was clearly abused by this women and the world vilified him because of her lie. At the end of the day sometimes ppl with mental health issues can be straight up horrible bc of their behaviour and they have sense. The world just want give her behaviour a pass. She clearly thought out and applied actions to ruin a man's life. There was no sympathy for Johnny's abusive home life as a kid and how it lead to his addictions. It's not fair to chalk it up as 'okay she won't get help bc ppl don't like her.' It's messed up how they're enabling her violent behaviour.
@@BasedMarysMemoirs It's not idiotic at all. A Histrionic woman probably wouldn't have done the follow up interview looking fine. A Narcissist however wants any attention either good or bad, it's all supply.
I agree with you on the BPD. I believe she's a narcissist and a secondary psychopath. See Sam vaknin.
I agree 100%
Men and women have different behaviors and symptoms for the same disorders.
But she shat his bed
This is APD not Borderline, although she may have Borderline symptoms but deeper study needs be done.
Also these disorders are on a spectrum so there's usually a mix
Heard is a true sociopath. Listen to that clip where Johnny tells her to cut him or hurt him. He then threatens to hurt himself. The girl has such a strong expression of glee and excitement, it’s sad. She is super excited over dramatic or traumatic events, and she doesn’t care as long as she gets to play a role- whether it’s the good guy or the villain. She doesn’t believe it has any effect on her.
After suffering tremendously from a relationship with someone with NPD (I myself have BPD), I have been scared to listen to your videos but I realised you can be helpful with my healing process, knowing all of us with cluster B personality disorders can be toxic, abusive, but it doesn’t mean we cannot work on ourselves/go to therapy, etc. Even if we’re different. Thank you for your work. I wish more people with NPD/HPD got the help they need to avoid perpetrating trauma. 💖
Oh yeh
@@annbet3684 When you have trouble with them, what kind of disorder do you have by yourself?
im bipolar with psychotic features/schizoaffective and say what you want bpd people are always the most optimistic in hospital for some reason. hey it helps
Don't try to fix him or your relationship. Just leave him forever. You will be free and happy.
im really grateful you're here to bring up these discussions. i notice too often that people seek comfort in attributing abuse and violence to personality disorders so they can wipe their hands of the issue. Even if /only/ people with cluster B personality disorders were abusive or violent (which isnt the case anyway), shouldn't we be de-stigmatizing the disorders then and paving the clearest paths towards mental health resources instead of pushing people to the fringes of society until they end up harming someone or themselves? It just feels lazy & irresponsible to me. When "you need help" is an insult in your culture, you know the culture is kinda messed up.
Interesting that SHE had to be evaluated by a psychologist for the case but johnny didn't?
It's because SHE claimed PTSD, so it had to be verified
Its the same reason why kate moss testified. Je sabotaged herself by claiming she has ptsd so she brought it up herself. If she had not they would not be able to do that
@@TH0KH PTSD is not the same as Anti-Social Personality Disorders
@@TH0KH Yes. He was arguing defamation. She brought mental health into the discussion with her claims and as such, the court made her get diagnosed.
@@someonespecial581 it isnt, but it isn’t uncommon to have more than one diagnosis after a appointment for the issue you‘ve gone to the doctor in the first place
I have bpd and my heart sank when AHs diagnosis was mentioned in court. I'm so tired of bpd being totally misunderstood and demonized.
On one hand, I do get your point. But on the other hand, millions of people have been abused by pwBPD so there is a reason why this disorder is so stigmatized
Understood, BPD should not be demonised !! Though, I believe her diagnosis was used as evidence to support her different emotional states- especially how she responded in times of stress. As AH was saying she had no type of disorder or emotional 'instability'. Love 💜
I understand the sensitive nature of the diagnosis. I lived with a BPD msyelf who didn't want to tell me until 8 months in. It was the most mindf*cking wierd volitile ride I've ever been on. Then it all made sense. AH herself made the PTSD claim part of her counterclaim. It had to be verified. She was going for victim points citing PTSD, and thus her own claims required her being fully tested. There was also a reason for the diagnosis, it began to explain some of the behaviors. If the diagnosis wasn't part of the trial, her behavior of never letting him leave and the abandonment issues wouldn't never been understood in their proper context. AH citing PTSD is just like AH's use of being an IPV violence activist to suit her agenda. She disrespects both communities of people, by not honoring but using their badge of experience for whatever agenda she's pushing. It's awful. She reminds me of my ex, no remorse or empathy for suffering anyone went through. It's just powerful men and the system abusing her. Sorry, powerful men didn't call TMZ and push photo-ops for clout, she did.
I am right there with you ❤how old are you, do you mind if I ask? Reason being, I am 65 and my BPD is very much better than when I was younger. It took loads of therapy and work but I am good. I would love to compare notes. It’s rare to meet another person like me
I understand. But on the other hand having a bond or relationship or friendship with someone with BPD is really really hard and when you dont give them what they need they will actively try to ruin your life. I experienced this first hand and will never ever again get into a friendshi with someone who has borderline.
Your video made me realize that it's quite alarming that diagnoses are publicly announced in cases like these.
It is on a "need to know basis" in most work places! As in...its REALLY nobody's business if you can do your job well!
I think the thing to remember is that these diagnosed disorders being mentioned were diagnosed by a paid member of his team. I won't go into details as that's for another post suffice to say they actually have self-reported disorders from their past which are not these disorders, but the demonization and weaponisation of disorders and mental health by the court teams and by the general public has been horrible and really went to DEFCON 1 levels with this trial. I think its highly problematic that a team can have someone come in and diagnose anything then weaponise it for their case. That's very different to court appointed diagnosis for all parties.
Tbh I feel like the diagnosis wasn’t super necessary cuz I think she would have lost regardless of them sharing the diagnosis
It was only brought in because Amber claimed to have PTSD and was therefore subject to evaluations to prove/disprove the claim. Not really a way to get around it with this case, it had to come into trial
@@TH0KH Yup. Highly typical of the manipulation going on by team AH, claiming she's mistreated for having to submit to a diagnosis in a public trial. However, she invoked mental health claims, and if you going to assert them as part of your claim, you'll have to submit to testing. She didn't want that out there, it was pretty easy to avoid. More manipulation fodder for victim points when the adults in the room know exactly her diagnosis was publicly shared. She invoked it.
This was refreshingly fair. Both substance abuse and PDs are extremely stigmatized (understandably so) and these dark personality traits you outline need to also be understood from the inside out, not just media perception and expert opinions. Intimate partner violence is usually very complex and a lot of times, there isn't one abuser/perpetrator or "victim", but a toxic dynamic, where both people need to hold themselves accountable, even though one person more often than not is by far more responsible for instigating conflict, as we can see with this case, looking at information that has come to surface, under scrutiny.
I highly appreciate your channel as someone with BPD who has a father with potential ASPD. When I got my diagnosis, I did exactly what you said, I wanted to hide it all so even to this day I suppress my symptoms rather than treat them head on, especially when it comes to communicating my struggles to others. This has led to more self destructive impulses and lying constantly. The stigma surrounding personality disorders makes it incredibly difficult to reach out as it is, but this case is making it so much worse. I feel like this case was extremely damaging to have publicized to not only all people with personality disorders, but also to Johnny Depp and Amber Heard themselves. I am also neutral on this case, I feel like both sides have unresolved mental illnesses and substance use disorders. I just hope that they both are able to get the help they need to live better lives, I’m sure the media is making it incredibly hard for both of them to seek support.
The stigma should be there to protect ppl with empathy from unempathic bpd ppl ruining others.
@@D9Wx Many people with BPD are empaths, actually. Including myself. People with BPD do NOT lack empathy. You're thinking of antisocial personality disorder & narcissistic personality disorder. People with BPD feel EVERYTHING!
I have BPD too and I appreciate your mature insight. I’ll just say this… most people in prison have a cluster B personality disorder, and I’d put good money on most people in explosive lawsuits having it too, ESPECIALLY family court. This one just so happened to be televised. So there’s nothing really new here, and frankly movies have been made for ages about crazy women who have BPD, such as fatal attraction in the 80’s. So the stigma has already been stirred. Yes, the world would be a much nicer place if we bothered to teach about cluster B disorders instead of use sensationalism to mold people’s opinions, but the truth is, that doesn’t sell and most people don’t care. Until our culture around mental illness changes, and we offer real help to these people, and education around how to spot and treat abuse… it will continue to be stigmatized. This is why I don’t go around sharing my BPD diagnosis with ppl in my life. Besides, I am not a label. I let my actions do the talking, not my words. I also don’t want anyone to think that I use it to excuse toxic behavior. I don’t have that cushion to fall back on and that keeps me even more accountable. So what can we do? We can continue to share the truth online and represent the disorder the most honest way we can.
I definitely agree with you when you state that women are vilified by the media. This has happened historically and it’s not fair. As for saying that you have received death and rape threats, that is disgraceful. I love you Kanika, stay strong 💪💕
It's women like Amber Heard who have turned the media towards making women out to be Villians, women can be so ruthless, cold and unfeeling. Even killing their own pets and making them suffer.
Woah woah wait a minute, women are the ones villified? You mean the media that constantly labels men guilty until proven innocent?
Women got the #metoo thing all over Twitter and a lot of news places. Women get special days.
Men? What do we get? Oh yeah, that’s right. We get called wife beaters if the wife says we are. All Amber had to do for Johnny to get labeled a wife beater (temporarily thank goodness) was go to The Sun newspaper and just tell them he’s a wife beater.
You’ve got it way backwards. What do men have going for them in the media? The gender pay gap that never stops being talked about? About how women are so unfortunate and how men are paid more because men are bad? Oh yeah, that’s a real good label for us.
The constant attacking of men with no regard for their personal well being? Yeah, men totally winning in that department.
The constant bias of media when they literally come out and say “believe all women”
How is that vilification? The fact you say women are villified while there’s a large amount of people out there in the media who literally will believe a man is a rap*ist because a woman said he is is absurd.
That’s probably one of the worst takes I’ve seen in a LONG time
don’t be a villain then😂😂😂
Actually, in this case it was exactly the opposite. That was the problem. Depp was vilified and lost a job due to that. They did reach a settlement prior to that but A.H. wanted more.
The issue is that Amber isn't OPEN to admitting to having ANYTHING WRONG WITH HER! Having ANY illness shouldn't be an excuse to break laws, lie, and try to destroy others!
that’s part of her illness though
Well mental illness is somewhat of an excuse it is taken into consideration in court if someoen is genuinely considered mentally unwell but if it’s to a level that you can’t function in society without hurting people then you do still get sentenced but you live it out in a mental health facility and can’t get the death penalty. Etc
@@lunity1111 I think you can get the death penalty if you have NPD or ASpd.
@@birdlover6842 I think it just literally depends on your assessment right and probably to a point how good your lawyers are In proving you were not aware of your actions or something, can't remember the exact legal term.
Don't argue with these sophist animal's, you'd have better luck reasoning with a tiger not to attack you.
My clients talked about the trial when it was going on
Two of which were nurses and said that people with BPD are monsters. I was beyond disgusted that a nurse would say this. And I have many friends with BPD that I love very much and when I told them that they said "oh you must be getting abused"
Excuse me, what?
People that claim to be normal or empaths are the most judgemental. They are the ones that dehumanize people with cluster B's.
That’s awful!? I know several people who have been diagnosed with bpd and they are both lovely people.
She can have opinions. Have you ever heard people can have thoughts??
@@gregorygan2077People who work in healthcare should at the very least be informed about the very basic information regarding mental health because it can be absolutely detrimental to how they treat patients
An empath would never omg
“Clients”- whatever that means. So surely you set the record straight in a manner that would help de-stigmatize BPD?
Also- they are allowed to have their opinion based in their personal experience. I am a recovering BPD and my ex roommate also has it. She IS a monster. A complete lunatic. Many of us ARE. I was never a monster but def toxic AF. Anyone who claims otherwise is lying to themselves. It’s not a personality DISORDER for nothing. Doesn’t mean everyone with BPD is bad- but they are very very sick. And yes, many ARE bad (immoral, abusive, vengeful)
What I hated about this case was how it encouraged humiliating public breakups. I see people doing this on Instagram all the time. What does it say about the people who wanted to drag this into the public?
*Twitter
Johnny isn’t the one who dragged this into the public. Amber is when she filed that fraudulent protective order and then called tmz to the courthouse to come photograph her fake bruise. The entire world was talking about it. She proceeded to spend the next year going on tv to play victim. That’s why JD sued her. So, sorry that you don’t like it. Blame the right person tho. I am a recovering BPD myself and this was 100% ambers doing. And I enjoyed watching her receive her karma because I am also the victim of BPD.
@@kateashby3066That is a LIE. ALL OF IT.
Considering the evidence from both trials, I personally believe Amber Heard fabricated and even invented her claims against Johnny Depp. However, I don’t find the online harassment helpful. She’s been exposed & judged in a court of law, which is enough. I hope she and Johnny get the help they need.
His lack of a history, sure he's a narcist, that's sort of a given, but usually, even with substance abuse, you see a pattern of behavior. None of his former girlfriends, or hell stripers or one night stands have come out of the wood work to give a story. So either he is really really good at paying people off (which although is possible, I see as unlikely given his inability to control his spending as it is) or Herd is misrepresenting the nature of the altercations.
What if: she didn't fabricated or invented her claims, but just stated what she saw and felt at those specific moments. And yet was unaware of what she made others see and feel at the same time.
Which is why I didn't say lied. I said misrepresented. I should have added possibly unwittingly.
The abuse was 98-99.9% all from her.
@@practicallymedieval2027 yeah, this is very true . Most people can't wrap their head around this concept and take everything such abusive people say for face value..
Correction... JD did not take AH to court in the UK. He took Dan Wooten and the Sun newspaper. As such, his legal team were not allowed to grill AH since she only appeared as a witness. Nor was his evidence complete (I.e. The charity "donations" ) nor much of it allowed due to UK rules of evidence.
Thank you for letting me know! Appreciate all the facts coming in.
@@KanikaBatra i think you need to widen your focus to include the damage that Depp endured for 6 years and continues to endure post verdict. A verdict that vindicated him completely.
You should at least be familiar with the facts of the trial before offering an opinion.
Also, Depp has suffered as much as AH post trial in the media.
No one is lumping all people with personality disorders together.
Frankly Dr. Curry's diagnosis of HPD seems to fit Heard very well. You should listen to some of her behavior on the readily available audio.
Also, the bed poop incident was done at the end of the relationship so your point about AH not being capable of such an act seems moot.
You say AH could have been "helped" yet she denies having any personality disorders. You can't help someone who won't accept it.
Heard has an arrest for DV in 2009, yet you try to paint Depp as having "rage issues" because he trashed a hotel room 25 years ago.
Depp has rage issues yet AH is on audio saying "I didn't punch you, I hit you", trying to gaslight him into believing he wasn't assaulted. She then finally calls him a "f*cking baby" because he complains about being hit in the face. She admits to hitting him, unprovoked on audio and on the stand.
Only one of these two has a DV arrest and its not Depp. AH is on audio admitting she gets violent, cannot control her temper and "can't promise she won't get physical again" as well as "getting so mad she f*cking loses it".
Depp sent private texts to a friend. AH was never supposed to see them, yet you paint them as representative of his personality.
Dr. Anderson, their marriage therapist said AH considered it a "point of pride" to stop Depp from fleeing an argument by using violence. AH' s expert witness, Dr. Hughes admitted Depp was a victim of physical and emotional abuse.
There's quite a bit more but this is already too long. The jury reached a fair and just verdict.
The problem with false allegations like those of Heard's is that even tho he has been vindicated i doubt his career will ever fully recover.
Also, Depp sued the Sun Newspaper in the UK, and Heard was merely a witness. She didn't undergo discovery like a defendant would. Like she did in the US trial.
I think you vastly underestimate the damage false allegations can do, and are still doing after having been found to be lies.
This is a kind, compassionate, thoughtful post- good job Kanika
Kanika, I’m so glad you’re making consistent videos again!
❤️❤️❤️ more to come soon
From watching the trial I thought she had BPD with narcissistic tendencies as well. Awesome video.
The way she stomped off the stand and marched out if the courtroom when the judge asked her to HAVE A SEAT. The way she rushed to do an interview 5 seconds after the verdict. Girl is a poster child for narcissism.
I love your videos and how you explain these personality disorders because of your videos I started realizing that maybe I had NPD because you spoke of it in a neutral way not “oh narcissists are abusive manipulators” like I’ve seen many people do. Thank you for these videos and spreading awareness.
I have BPD and I also came to terms with that after watching dr Ramani on CZcams. Then I did my own research and sure enough I checked off every single box (you only need 5/9 boxes to qualify for the diagnosis). Since it isn’t curable but it IS treatable, and because it’s nearly impossible to find a dr that WILL treat it, I decided to just work on myself, on my own. You can find books on DBT, and work on it at your own pace. But first, if you haven’t already, do more research to confirm you have it. Best of luck 😊
I just started the video but I wanted to say THANK YOU Kanika for pointing something out! I was diagnosed with BPD without the trademark abandonment issues or s/h tendencies and I really think that when I brought up my research on ASPD to any of my mental health professionals, they invalidate and brush it off because I'm a woman. I had conduct issues growing up (although I was never diagnosed with conduct disorder or ODD as a child) and exhibit symptoms that lean much more towards ASPD with comorbid schizoaffective bipolar type than I do BPD and I have the right history and childhood for it. My father also would get furious if I cried or showed any strong emotion and had a total lack of empathy of any kind. Yet because I'm a woman, no, I could never have ASPD...*eye roll*
I had the same experience. I'm immediately dismissed when I bring it up. I was also told (by a professional) that it's "impossible" for someone with NPD to know they have NPD. Didn't even get past the initial interview with that one. The stigma not only affects people publicly, but also makes it even more difficult for us to seek treatment. I've been searching for years for someone who can at the very least entertain the idea. It's ridiculous how hard that is to find.
They might express different symptoms of ASPD but its very possible because women are taught to bottle up there emotions and deal with it so they do not appear irrational or crazy and as a result some of them start to lack empathy it's not anything to be proud of I actually did a test that said I had introverted personality disorder which is a step below ASPD.
It's just a more reserved kind of social anxiety mixed with paranoia if enough people traumatize you it won't matter what gender you are you can develop it over time its treatable but you have to keep seeking therapy for it and stay medicated.
from a fellow bipolar schizoaffective I noticed my emotions tend to flatten after a psychotic episode for a period. maybe thats also a factor. I never get bored, do have anxiety and am a bit sensitive in the emotional area but post psychosis I do find myself looking at aspd traits and going hmmmmm because its all flatline. not to invalidate I wasnt there but its something not many people who experience psychosis talk about
There's huge bias towards overdiagnosing women with bpd and under-diagnosing men, and the opposite regarding aspd
Isn’t it funny that so many ppl cry “don’t diagnose yourself!!”
But little do they understand that most drs MISdiagnose cluster B’s. To get properly diagnosed can take MANY years and seeing more than 1 doc. No thanks! I am finally capable of being brutally honest with myself- so I did a LOT of my own research, and if I don’t have BPD then no one does 😂. And I checked every single box on the criteria too. Happy to say I no longer do :)
Kanika!! So happy to hear your perspectives. Thank you for being you ❤
This is the best breakdown of the news coverage I've heard so far. The most helpful point is about separating a person's diagnosis from how they treat other people. Most people try to get along given whatever medical conditions they have. When two people get in a knock-down public fight on TV over how they have treated each other in a romantic relationship you can bet they both have contributed to the conflict in ways that cannot be blamed on a diagnosis. The emphasis should be on what people can control not on a diagnosis that is outside their control.
You come across so much warmer in your long form videos than you do in your shorts. I really enjoying your content please keep it coming out. Shorts and long form both
Thank you so much for discussing this! I’m also neutral on the case itself, but the testimony about Heard’s BPD made me worry about the added negative press about an already deeply stigmatized disorder, both by the average person and even mental health professionals.
When I received my diagnosis in 2014 it seemed world-ending, like I was officially irreparable (which is honestly a very borderline reaction lmao). The only points of reference I had were the film Girl Interrupted and the serial killer Aileen Wuornos, which certainly didn’t instil a lot of confidence in my recovery. And as a trans male with the disorder, I can kind of attest to how misogyny plays a role in the skewed perception of PDs - this is obviously anecdotal, but I’ve noticed a major difference in how others have treated me pre vs post transition with regards to my BPD.
That being said, I really appreciate that you mentioned the fact that BPD is treatable through therapy (particularly DBT) and meds!! When I was at rock bottom, DBT truly helped me turn my life around.
While PDs aren’t something to be “cured” per se, as of 2018 I’ve been able to manage my symptoms to the point where I no longer meet the diagnostic criteria. I’m now able to function “normally” (for lack of a better term).
If anything, the fact that I had to actively learn the skills taught through DBT allows me to deal with certain situations *more* effectively than neurotypicals, who are just kinda expected to already know all of those things.
So anyways, rambling aside: Folks with PDs are absolutely capable of leading fulfilling lives and maintaining healthy relationships. While a person’s diagnoses can sometimes be a contributing factor to toxic behaviour, PDs are never the sole cause. People with PDs are *not* inherently toxic or evil. It’s beyond frustrating that people like us seem to only ever be vilified in media…because like you said, it only hinders our willingness to seek help.
This is so inspiring! Thank you very much.
I'm curious about meds for BPD. I was diagnosed about 25 years ago, & other than DBT & antidepressant for my MDD, I've never been given anything to help treat my BPD. Sure would be great though!😃
@@WillSing4TP no mood stabilizers?!😳
@@zz-ic6vy Mood stabilizers don't do anything to me (except give me awful side effects). 🙃
Which meds address bpd symptoms?
👏👏👏 Thanks for a real perspective. I have been pretty disgusted with how social media has been treating this trial. This is the only commentary that has been palletable BY ANY MEANS to me! So nice to see people having real discussions here!!! 💯 The world has not all gone mad after all...imagine that 😜
EVERY one of Johnny's ex-girlfriends have come out defending him hardcore. This is what they said:
VANESSA PARADIS in 2016: “I have known Johnny for 25 years. We have been partners for 14 years and we raised our two children together. Through all these years I've known Johnny to be a kind, attentive, generous and non-violent person and father. And from my personal experience of many years, I can say he was never violent or abusive to me. I have see these outrageous statements that have been really distressing, and also caused damage to his career because unfortunately people have gone on believing these false facts.”
LORI ANNE ALLISON in 2016: “Johnny would never lay a hand on a woman and isn’t capable of hurting anyone. He’s a soft person.”
WINONA RYDER in 2016: “I cannot wrap my head around these accusations. He was never, never violent towards me. He was never, never abusive at all towards me. He has never been violent or abusive towards anybody I have seen. I truly and honestly only know him as a really good man - an incredibly loving, extremely caring guy who was so very protective of me and the people that he loves, and I felt so very, very safe with him. I do not want to call anyone a liar but from my experience of Johnny, it is impossible to believe that such horrific allegations are true. I find it extremely upsetting, knowing him as I do.”
KATE MOSS in 2012, also testified in this trial: “There’s nobody that’s ever really been able to take care of me. Johnny did for a while. I believed what he said. Like if I said, ‘What do I do?,’ he’d tell me. And that’s what I missed when I left. I really lost that gauge of somebody I could trust. Nightmare. Years and years of crying. Oh, the tears!”
SHERILYN FENN in 2017: "We were very young. I met him when I was 19 and he was 21. We dated for two and a half years when we were just starting out in the business. He was very sweet. He was my first love."
JENNIFER GREY in 2022: "From my experience with Johnny, I never had anything violent with him. Whatsoever. He was a rebound relationship for me, and if you're looking for a rebound relationship, 1989 Johnny was *chef's kiss.* He wiped out all my pain, like an etch-a-sketch."
"Believe all women." Well, after researching all the facts and also hearing what these women had to say, I believe Johnny.
They don't want to defend their logic using tangible evidence. Amber Heard clearly is the abuser from her domestic abuse charges on her wife.
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I haven't to believe all woman, i believe the facts and the shown evidences like photos, witnesses etc. doesn't fit the allegations .
But your comment really good stands for itself, like it^^
@@Diewolustigist hehe thank you!
I completely agree that you need accountability regardless of you struggles mentally. Many people have things that they deal with everyday, it’s not an excuse. It can be part of the reason, but it is YOUR responsibility to get help and try to manage. She was actively in therapy apparently and still did what she did. There is no excuse. There can be reasons and empathy, but it doesn’t excuse anything.
It also hurts the people who do seek treatment in order to not behave like this that everyone who has one disorder just “can’t help it” when that’s far from the truth and seriously harmful
Narcissists don’t go to therapy to get better (99% if then anyway). They go to complain about all the people in their lives and receive narcissistic supply via validation. That’s what Amber was doing. She basically wanted Dr Laurel to tell JD that everything was his fault. And as a narcissist- she believed that too. As soon as the therapist tells the narc that THEY need treatment, it’s gunna be a blow up. I’m extremely rare cases, the narc will listen and seek help, but only if they are in a lot of pain and desperate. BPD’s are similar. We are the other side of the coin if you will. We cannot accept responsibility because that validates our low self worth and we can’t come to terms with that. We do go to therapy much more than a NPD would but that doesn’t mean we are willing to get honest about ourselves to get better. You have ti be realllllly desperate, like I finally was.
Women who are victim's of Domestic Abuse will often be misperceived as "hysterical" or "highly strung" because they are utterly traumatised and suffering from ptsd from the abuse. They are hypervigilant, in fight or flight permanently and their whole internal emotional and physiology has been played with for so long that finding a calm centred space is a challenge until they've had treatment. I think Amber did incredibly well during the trial and was remarkable composed. The other Psychiatrist on the stand found no evidence of these personality disorders but did say that JD showed behaviour consistent with a diagnosis of NPD. Anyone who's gone through narcissitic abuse knows the devastation it causes - not least the fact that the abuser is so clever they ensure it remain covert and they manipulate to ensure that the victim's network starts to doubt their story.
I love your comment. This is so true
Absolutely spot on
I know a lot of musicians and was in the company of JD a few times , he is certainly not the Saint the Man o sphere groups try to paint him ! It was obvious he had a big Dr ug problem ,he was dead eyed , came across as sleazy and narcissistic and the company he kept were the same .
It's the vile Man o sphere groups who threaten women online in person , they hero worship abusive " men " and trash all women :( .
This is a brilliant video , thank you for highlighting how women are treated .
I don't get why she is continuing to do interviews and make statements that are STILL defamatory.
I respect your opinion on personality disorders and how that does not define who you are as a person, but in Amber's case, she may just be a bad person. She also lacks self awareness on how she comes off to others. It's complicated but I believe she is truly abusive and caused about >95% of it in Amber/Johnny's case.
She might be like me, a BPD impulsive subtype, which is basically 50% narcissism and 50% bpd. She doesn’t care if she smears herself aslong as he gets some of the dirt. I have been in relationships where I was willing to suffer MORE so that he could suffer a little too.
Hmmm I dunno they're both pretty bad. And he has been going downhill for quite some time before amber. I don't think a good person would "joke" about raping and burning his 20 years his junior wife's corpse. Or text his ex wife and brag about the marks her gave amber on their honeymoon.Or offer Marilyn Manson support and a place to hide from the police when he knows how he tortured and drugged Evan Rachel Wood for years since she was a teenager. Or get in trouble multiple times legally for hitting and throwing things at costars. Or joking about running over and killing "N-words". Its almost like he's an extremely rich international star and not a quirky fun little pirate like people want him to be. But hey. that's just me.
I’m confused as to how this woman who charmed Jd and Elon and so many others came off as so unlikable in court. Where was the charisma, the dazzle? She was so off putting, unrelatable, haughty
@@lilij1915 In one-on-one interactions, people like AH are able to find your weakness, find what you desire and emulate it for their own gain. They find ways to get you drop your guard. On the stand, AH was completely out of her element and unable gain the upper hand as she usually the one in control. The evidence here is the constant addressing of the jury. It was her attempt to manipulate the jury with eye contact (and mindf*ck Camille). AH was in a hostile environment and none of her usual tricks worked. Camille had the upper hand, and the control. That's why you saw the haughty, irritation and evasion trying at all costs to avoid being exposed. AH did all she could to blunt Camille's control while trying to coerce the jury through eye contact. Remember AH likes control and as long someone is controllable, she plays them like a fiddle. When you resist, those dark traits in addition to smears start.
I think what's important here is accountability. I watched the trial and I can only speak about what happened in the courtroom and what the outcome was. I agree with you personality disorders should not be used as an excuse to be verbally or physically abusive to another human being. From what I saw Amber was extremely volatile and didn't like it when JD would leave the room when things would escalate. This probably triggered her fears of abandonment when he did this. I also think lying and ruining someone's reputation by falsely accusing them as an abuser is defamation. I am happy the case was based on evidence and credible eye witness testimony. I also think what will help people with BPD & HPD is if they take accountability for their actions and learn to manage their disorder with therapy & medication. I honestly believe the onus is not just on the public to be more accepting of these ppl but people like Amber NEED to take responsibility for their actions otherwise a lot of the blowback and chaos comes down to being self inflicted. I agree with the jury's decision that Amber carried out defamatory acts with malice. Regardless of her personality disorder not only did she break the law but she also ruined another person's life and reputation for 6 years with heinous lies that were proven to be false in court. She still refuses to take responsibility.
Like he said his legacy is permanently marred by the accusations. He’s still not welcome in Hollywood
Mr. Depp doesn’t need hollyweird. It’s filled with sexual deviants.
Hi Kanika, I don't agree that Jonny was abusive with Amber. He was in abusive relationships with her and one other woman. They were abusive towards him and he took his rage out on the furniture and in man-to-man talk with his friend which probably was therapeutic. This is not the same as him being abusive. What he suffers from I believe is trauma, where in some of his relationships he relived the trauma with his mum. If he didn't have that trauma he would have walked away, but from a need to relive his experiences, and certain learned patterns from his childhood he stayed. I also believe Heard has a lot of money for PR as a Hollywood actress, also lobby groups invested a lot in making her look like a victim..For them, it is about money, to make her keep on looking like a victim. They planted the idea that she got backlash for being a woman. So I am under the impression that you have been under influence of those media. Watch more of the trial videos and coverage from layers and see. I was really curious about your opinion of her diagnosis through. I think the poo was being done in a belief that nobody would ever know, potentially to psychologically harm as much as possible. Just my take on the issue. To see Amber just makes me feel really sorry for people with her disorder, whatever it may be, it never makes me look down upon them. I am sure anybody would feel like that, if they think more deeply, and also admire those with the same disorders that manage better to handle their disorder.
The only people I know who defend Amber and claim she has been vilified as a woman are people who did not watch the actual trial
You expressed it so eloquently thank you for your thoughts. I wanted to add when you mentioned to seek help to not abuse your wife, I believe it was mentioned that he in some aspects but there was a lot of moments that JD was abused when it came to detoxifying himself she held back the drugs that a nurse provided him in case he needed them, in order to deal with that he had to take a shower in a extreme temperature to deal with the stress for not taking the meds. Causing JOhnny to have to deal with his issues with drug abuse alone. It's as if Amber was purposefully making it harder for him.
Do you think in your opinion it was manipulative? If she really did that. I feel there's a combination of manipulation and almost as if Amber wanted him to lose it, and hopefully hit her or something.
I can't analyse in a comment why, but from what I've watched in the media, I have clues that J.Depp might have been indeed the abuser in this relationship and A.Heard's reaction could have been what is called a "reactive abuse". I do believe that she has borderline pers.disorder traits that intensified the reactive abuse due to extreme levels of emotional pain, trauma bonding and fear of abandonment.
I'm neutral too about them cause we can never really know what was going on but in any case, I feel terribly sorry that ALL the blame went on her and Depp appears everywhere as a literal hero while we have evidence that he had been abusive too (videos where he humiliates her and breaks things around the house etc).
I understand what you're saying 100% and I do agree for the most part, we do need to help those with PD's and try to understand what's happening internally with them. But on the other hand I was a partner of a man who has bpd for 6 years. And he was abusive to me the entire time. I'm a hugely empathetic person and I went above and beyond to understand and help him in any way I could because I could see and sense his internal suffering and all I wanted to do was take that suffering away for him. It consumed him and it was heartbreaking to see. As an empath it eats you up inside seeing someone you love in so much emotional pain, I did everything in my power to soothe him but it wasn't enough. He expected me to be a perfect human being and when I wasn't, when I had needs that also needed to be met he couldn't understand that. He couldn't give me anything in return. Instead he continued to take what he wanted and needed and after a certain amount of time he knew he could do it. He went to therapy for 18 months and it didn't help him. He went to a psych ward and it didn't help him. It was the most horrific experience of my life. I basically gave up my life to make his better and it wasn't good enough.
So my point is... that while I understand we should offer support, some people are not ready or capable of having the mindset of seeing what you can see, they don't WANT to get better or they can't. They are inheritantly abusive and there's nothing that can change it not even an abundance of understanding and offers of help and support. It's all an internal process they need to undergo.
Unfortunately alot of people just don't have the insight (and I'm talking about people from all walks of life there not just those with PD, even neurotypical people often dont).
I am so sorry to hear what you have gone through. I will be doing a video on the toxic behaviour of people w CB disorders and I appreciate the input. I agree that a lot of us are low functioning and do not change with ease - it leaves a lot of abused people in the wake
@@KanikaBatrayou feel sorry? Girl make your mind up who u are 😂
@@LoraHari81she didn't say she felt sorry, she said she was sorry to hear it - it's cognitive empathy. not emotional empathy.
I’m sorry that happened. I have BPD and here’s the deal for me and I think almost all others- we will NOT seek help unless we have no other choice. I chose to live 31 years in a toxic and painful world that I created for myself because knew no other way and I was not CAPABLE to be brutally honest about the fact that I was the problem. So I drank a LOT and used substances to full that pain. It wasn’t until I hit a fork in the road where there were only 2 (different) paths I could continue down. 1) kill myself- something many of us do
2) get help.
What was NOT an option? Continuing in my current path. So I almost went route 1, but my puppy walked in on me, and he was/is my everything so I couldn’t go through with it. So I went with option 2.
Point is- we won’t get help until we have no other options left. And we almost always surround ourselves with enablers rather than ppl who will hold us accountable (you’d be the enabler in your situation). Codependents are our juice. And it’s not like we do this consciously. It just works out that way because empaths/codependents are willing to overlook red flags. Healthy minded folks see red flags and run. So we always end up in relationships with those who enable our behavior by putting up with it. So why WOULD we change? To help the BPD- people need to be brutally honest with them and let them suffer the consequences of their choices. Same goes for the alcoholic/addict.
@kateashby3066 yeah I can fully understand that. And I think that's what my ex will eventually end up coming to.
I'm not trying to cause an argument here but please just think about the way you explain that, I could be really wrong but it sounded as if you're blaming the partners for your behaviour. We "allow" it so it's our fault? I only looked past some behaviour at the start of the relationship because he assured me he would get help. I did start calling him out on everything he did, and all it did was cause him to begin punishing me. It was very abusive.
Enablers have their own issues yes, I will not disagree on that, but your behaviour is nobody else's fault, it's yours.
This was so well said. Thank you so much, Kanika.
Question: what are your thoughts on Amber’s team using her therapist notes to prove abuse? It did not come into trial because of heresay, and during the battle of the psychologists/psychiatrist, it was clear that therapist notes can be manipulated through self-report.
Some have pointed out that if her therapist did believe that she was in a dangerous situation, her therapist would have been mandated by law to alert authorities. According to Dr Kirk (Psychology in Seattle), therapists believe patients by default, and although they can start spotting distortions once they learn more about a person. There is also less incentive to manipulate one’s own therapist if one really just wanted to get better, but that incentive shoots up once it becomes relevant in a court case
Glad you weighed in on this given your unique perspective.
I really like your channel, I think once like over a decade ago I was diagnosed with BPD, but I still don't know whether I actually have it or not, if so it's mild. I know I've had my own struggles - still have struggles, but regardless of diagnosis or non diagnosis I think the important thing especially to me is to be the very best version of myself and love the people in my life as best as I can. I watched your channel because it showed up in my algorithm, and found it interesting, as it's very rare to see people with ASPD so candid about their condition when I think it's natural to want to hide it, but I appreciate your openness and I think you're one of the good people because you are trying your best to be the best version of yourself. There's good people and bad people everywhere with and without disorders, it comes down to each individual person and our choices. When I was in the MIDDLE of severe depression, I think I was either 19 or 20 and still getting use to the medication/treatments and coming to terms with things, my own dad told me not to talk about it too much with my friends especially this lovely person who was my mentor and really the only one I felt understood me at the time, my dad literally told me that people shy away from people with mental health issues, so that didn't feel great or help me at all. That being said the issue with Amber Heard and Johnny Depp is that they were a volatile couple drugs and alcohol abuse never fosters good and healthy relationships, add mental health disorders to the mix and I can see how there's problems, especially when un treated or newly treated. The problem with Amber Heard wasn't her HPD or BPD, it was her and not taking steps to be a better healthy person. And if Johnny Depp was treating her poorly while under the influence, she should have tried her best to get herself out of that situation, it's not like didn't have a support system based on what I saw at the trial, why didn't any of them step up and pull her out?
Taking personal responsibility for ones actions is not confined to certain personality types. It's connected to the values a child is raised with. True narcissists cannot in most cases face their own faults. It is akin to death for them.
Well said. Anyone wanna see a narcissist HAVE to face the music? It’s not pretty- go watch the Chris Watts sentencing. He only came clean about killing his family because they already had him pinned for it, but before that he lied and lied. And even when he did admit to it, he tried to say his wife killed their toddlers and he only killed her as a reaction to that 🙄. Then he changed his story like 5 times, because narcs always do- they tailor it so they look as good as possible. Anyway, watch him during that sentencing where he is fully exposed for the loser/monster he really is. He can’t look anyone in the eye and he’s shaking like an earthquake. Soon after this he couldn’t live with the shame so he tried to devise a new narc mask and magically became a hardcore born again Christian. He’s delusional enough to think he will get out one day and become a preacher man. He also wants his “best dad” badge back so he put up pics of the girls in his cell and tells everyone who will listen that he reads them stories every night 🙄. A narc cannot handle shame. It’s a sucky emotion for anyone but they CANNOT do it. It validates their low self worth and that is PAINFUL. I have BPD and it’s not too different for us. Only, the worst thing I ever did was I got fired for sleeping with a subordinate (this doesn’t sound that bad now but at the time I was MORTIFIED, I was also married so there’s that) , and I told my sister I wanted her to raise my unborn baby- which came from this affair because I was in no shape to do that myself and she couldn’t have kids, only to abort the baby soon after- thus destroying her world. Both of those things were VERY shameful for me to face. And the latter still is to a degree even though I’ve worked hard to rehabilitate myself and forgive myself for it. But I still didn’t annihilate my entire family Just so I could run off with my girlfriend. I can’t imagine doing that AND the entire world knows AND they hate you more than anything for it. I’m surprised he hasn’t off’d himself yet. I guess Becoming a born again Christian is his only other realistic option. That way he can live under this delusion of repentance and pretend to want to help others with his newfound knowledge of the Bible 🙄🤦🏻♀️
I think if you listened to one of their recorded arguments it would help you to see their dynamics and maybe go into more depth, I would love a video like that! Thanks for your videos, they're very educational.
Forget the case. You've made amazing progress! So unbiased and trying to get to the core of the matter with the few facts we have. Kudos.
Only problem is that she doesn’t believe she has these issues your saying. She accepts ptsd depression she won’t admit to abusing drugs but Depp has and he’s been diagnosed with depression and adhd but beyond that no info.
I like the beautiful fonts in the beginning & ending of your videos. Good coverage of the subject matter.
Love the look today 😍🧥and loving your channel. Thanks for your boldness and openness in discussing so many misunderstood concepts xx
Why couldn't someone like you be a part of this trial. I think your perspective is so open and so respectful of the two individuals who deep down inside are suffering from various problems. The trial outcome should have been neutral, both made mistakes that were proven in court, rewarding one or the other is unproductive for their healing. It would be like having two children that were damaging property doing drugs abusing one another, and then taking one of the child's belongings and giving them all to the other child. It was a messed up outcome. It was painful to watch that trial the jury was paid off I believe
Her lawyers interviewed and personally selected half of that jury. So blame her lawyers
Heard was ridiculous on the stand. The jury punished her for being such a dramatic liar
Intelligent, articulate, and so on point. Not to mention beautiful. I enjoyed your thoughtful insight, and your ability to remain neutral and focus on the facts. Amazing job Kanika.
Amber Heard did acknowledge to someone that the poop was supposed to be a prank.
Yes she said that to Kevin murphy
I think you summarized it well by saying that mixing substance abuse and personality disorders do not give a good outcome. Thanks for your video! Big hug from Kingston, Canada
The amount of insight you have and self reflection you have done is amazing. Truly. And using that information to help the community better understand? How fierce you are. Bravo 👏👏
thank you so much for encouraging people to seek better solutions and to be more objective.
I appreciate having your take on this. I think you would appreciate "Psychology In Seattle" and his videos on the topic, he's a very thoughtful person when it comes to the personality disorders. Admittedly though, it's a hours of videos about the trial at this point.
I feel totally the same way, women are villianized, bpd is even more stigmatized after this. Thank you for sharing this video, it is so important!
She was villainized for her abusive behaviour not all women.
@@emfarah3758 @Malin Exactly. She is being held accountable for abusing multiple spouses, and lying or obfuscating reality to collectively gaslight us all. Which she continues to do. People don't like people that do that. To cloak it in the sexism trope doesn't work with Amber Heard. This isn't women are so marginalized and ignored. To claim that misses the point. This was and has always been about behavior, manipulation, self-aggrandizement for self-promotion to gain cloud, and meanwhile punish JD for having enough and being done with her while sadistically enjoyed his suffering. She's being held accountable for heinous acts. That's far more different than women are stigmatized.
Can someone have BPD AND NDP? Or does my ex with “bpd” actually just have NDP and doctors won’t tell her that? Cause I do have BPD and she sounds more like a narcissist then then BPD if I had to pick one but I could also very much see her having both if that’s even possible.
Yes Uncle Ye is an example
Great commentary. Thanks for your insight. I found it to be quite substantive and easy of comprehend.
I appreciate your channel for what it is, thank you for the education on personality disorders.
I came to the trial fully neutral. I have a history of being abused. If I leaned to either side, it was hers. I watched every second of the trial multiple times.
It isn’t quite accurate to say he sued her before. Depp took The Sun to court in the UK. They won only because they were able to say they had a source, AH. That covers their liability.
From a legal standpoint in America, based on the facts of the case, she should have won. However, her attorneys had a strategy she refused to follow.
Fact: she wrote the op Ed and paid a price. Accurate.
The problem is the information in the Op Ed was a lie at least in part.
I speculate Depp knows full well AH has been abused in the past and only wished to clear his part of her history. He did, after all, drop the $10 million to $1 million. Additionally, he claims he has no intention of going after the money.
I’m not trying to attack anyone or excuse anyone. Two people know what happened in their relationship, and like all of us, they see it through their own personal lenses.
I really appreciate your focus on the implications of many people -- myself included -- jumping online to spew diagnoses so flippantly. Its actually totally innapropriate & awful. It comes from trying to figure out the world, but its really so acutely self-serving & can cause so much confusion/harm. Though online sources also help people so much. Demystifying bad behaviour & issues so you know whats going on.
To be honest, Depp has all the characteristics of a covert narc. Love bombing, relationship jumping, triangulation, impression management, ruining special occasions, employing flying monkeys (the masses) , playing the victim, among many others.
I would love to see you and Dr Ramani have a conversation ^_____^ Both of yall are awesome
Nice angle ! That was really really good ! ❤
This is instantly what i knew was going to happen when this became popular. I was just not able to articulate it. So thank you for doing that for me. It's beautiful to hear someone align with me on this
Finally! I recommended that you review this!!! Thank you!!! ❤❤❤❤
haven't seen your vids in a while but the lighting/set up looks great here.
We don't care if the abuser is a man or a woman. Both are disgusting af. I hate violence.
I want to thank you. You maybe doing this as a way to get more attention due to your personality type. However, these videos are helpful. For those who have to deal with sociopaths and psychopaths it's helpful to understand from the voice of one on how to protect themselves emotionally. We love who we love.... and sometimes we do fall in love with sociopaths and psychopaths... everyone.. be mindful of what you are dealing with. It will save you a lot of pain.
(I am hoping people don't start getting ideas that they are also sociopaths or psychopaths because it's cool or due to mirroring though - it's important for them to actually find out what they have, if they have any personality disorder. If they are wondering if they are... then they probably aren't.)
Fantastic comments to both sides. I love not excusing abusive behavior but you are completely right. Having a disorder and the stigmas around it do make life and treatment that much harder. Shame is an underrated motivator to people's life.
I have a hard time figuring out whose the victim, when covert and reactive abuse get involved, and personality disorders get involved things get hazy fast
People with BPD are often chronic bullshiters,
pwbpd are often perpetrators of domestic violence
pwbpd are also often victims of domestic violence
6:56 Kanika, thank you for this. This needs to be shouted from the rooftops.
I'm so glad someone else viewed the situation this way. I have made the same comments and shared similar opinions.
I love this channel. It’s been really helpful.
Glad to see you still doing videos 💯💯💯
Great break down 👍
Great vlog, very insightful. I hope AH gets the help she needs, she’s a mother now. Nothing is black & white in life. The people around her are enablers though. She needs to turn her life around.
Just got your book I can’t wait 🎉❤
Love the intro!
This is brilliantly stated. I wish I found your channel sooner!
You're amazing!! I enjoy your intelligent thoughts so much!!
my take on this: i believe it probably was mutually toxic, as they don't seem to be particularly nice to each other in their interactions, but not mutually abusive, and i believe amber was physically violent with johnny and johnny wasn't physically violent with her. for me, my distaste for amber has a lot to do with feeling betrayed: because i did originally not question her allegations and distanced myself from media with johnny in it. then to hear the recordings where she admits to hitting him and hurting him and all the evidence of the trial i was angry at how i had been made to unknowingly contribute to her abuse of johnny? i don't think he deserved what happened to him and i was complacent in allowing it to happen, and that's why i'm so angry and upset about the whole thing. ultimately though, i do hope amber is able to recover and do better in the future.
Emotional abuse displayed by JD can lead to reactive abuse displayed by AH. You're not wrong to feel like you were not given all the information but abuse is rarely clear cut. JD was actually the instigator, as older men pursuing younger women out of their league tend to be. Think about how he was comfortable leaving his kids over lust (in the form of a woman he met doing her job) and let your guilt fade away.
@@NekoAnjiru sophist
@@NekoAnjiru regarding him leaving his relationship i actually believe that is due to strong moral conviction on his part? he has famously said that if you're in love with two people you should go with the second, because if you truly loved the first you would not fall for someone else.
@@NekoAnjiru additionally, i followed enough of the trial to not believe that. the reports i saw or heard of, in terms of johnny instigating anything, was to do with amber escalating the situation and johnny trying to leave before she got violent, which, even though that triggered her and pissed her off, is something i fully believe is within his right to do. to leave a situation that he feels will be dangerous to him. ultimately: in court she said he beat her on multiple occasions, which she lied about, and that is disgusting to me. i am sorry that she's been demonised beyond redemption in media, but don't mistake that for believing she wasn't the abuser and sole abuser in the relationship.
@@NekoAnjiru emotional "abuse" doesn't justify her physical abuse. Punching him in the face, etc. Plus its clear from the hours of audio that AH considered Depp trying to separate when they were arguing as "abusing her".
You don't get to decide what you think is abuse and then become physically violent because your partner is trying to run from you before he is hit again.
I love you!!! ❤️💕😘 I have BPD and love how you explained all of this! Thanks love ❤️
Very insightful
Hey Kanika always love your videos bc you are smart as hell 😊. I am bpd and I did watch some of the trial especially the part where she was also diagnosed with BPD and HPD but what caught my attention was that said therapist denied that AH had PTSD which precludes the BPD diagnoses so once I heard that I basically just put her in the NPD category. But just like you mentioned without both her and Johnny being clean and sober it's next to impossible to properly diagnose the both of them, that's why I love your logic it's never clouded. And I am so sick and tired of people getting dragged as evil being in the cluster b disorders! It's heartbreaking, you and I know full well the hell people go through in childhood to become so dysregulated and disordered! It's not like we choose this path in purpose bc it's cool or feels good bc it's seriously no joke. 😢❤️ (Same with Will and Jada Smith, if course she is cast as the evil villain and Will the long-suffering partner which I know for a fact is a serious untruth! And most of us who grew up in Hollywood and/or is in the industry know exactly what's going down. Those in the know understand that the money, power and fame these people have set these lives extremely apart in such a way normal people couldn't imagine. That's why people in the cluster b show up on such a spectrum; it's very layerd and nuanced as cluster b's seek fame bc they are massively intelligent and talented.)
Can we please take a moment to appreciate how much Kanika is 🌟GLOWING 🌟
ETA: the way you speak with such clarity and bring facts while making your content engaging is fabulous. I hope you find time to reflect and be proud of yourself. X
Love this video of yours!
I really appreciate your videos so much. You are incredibly likable.
The information you are able to give as insight is golden. Thank you so much for your videos-I have shared them with one of my best friends because they are so terrific.
*I used to work in the restaurant next to where Amber lived with her family so, she came in often for coffee | cup of soup | with her family and you are 100% on your insightful assessment as I *(to be clear, I only observed her as a regular customer), saw. I saw a young lady *(she was 15-19?). She was very quiet, very polite, sometimes make up but often no make up. She dressed very normal/casual, spoke quietly and did smile/laugh at funnies. She was never a bother, never a problem, incredibly beautiful-just naturally really really pretty. Sat straight up in a booth-no slouching. Just a very quiet and sweet girl. Her family had some energy when they came in. Her mom sort of organized dinner-there were several younger siblings-they were never ever an issue. They were never rude! Never mean or obnoxious. I don’t remember the parents drinking excessively, if at all. Just a nice family who was trying to support their daughter’s career by living in the very very trendy trailer park on Barton springs, as a family. You know, it seems they could have just sent her off to do her thing and let her live on her own but they didn’t…they lived as a family unit-my guess is, as an older teen, living in a trailer, with your siblings *presumably one toilet and close sleeping quarters, would make one bitchy or poopy but she was not, at all, ever as far as I personally saw.
Anyway, that’s my add to Ms Amber. I took her as a nice, quiet actress and her family as supporting her in her journey. My judgement of course could be off for a myriad of reasons but I have been saying this for years now because I believe who I saw, were really nice people.
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Ha-I just saw I have commented on this before, well, still feel same way I guess. Ha ha.
Again, thank you for your hard work, I really appreciate you.
Wow those are some interesting observations. Fame seems to have interesting effects on people. She had no one vouching for her kindness or good character during the trial. Not one person that I remember. It probably would have been helpful
To be honest, this channel is the last place I'd expect to get Rick Rolled. 😆
Girl I LOVE how life gave you lemons but you made lemonade!!!
Kudos to you for standing up for mental health.
Ofc topic but like you look so good 🔥
that bit at the very end is true, it was really good
But do you really think 12 hours is enough to make those kind of diagnoses?? I’m not suggesting that I have a side either. But I do have a problem with the 12 hours in one day versus years of medical records that she has that don’t diagnose BPD or HPD. And I definitely have a problem with these diagnoses being weaponized.
Edited for clarification.
I’m confused about this too
From the perspective of a mental health professional I hear you and agree. The med records she has are not psychiatric because she was not seeking mental health treatment or presenting with a mental health crisis and therefore she didn’t get any psychiatric assessments or get admitted to any inpatient or outpatient mental health care. This means all those years of med records don’t count for much towards diagnosing her mental health. Here, her mental health came into question and she was assessed and diagnosed after what in outpatient care (most typical mental health care) would be 12 sessions with a client, each session being one hour and typically that would happen across 12 weeks (maybe 6 if biweekly or 24 if every other week). That’s why it can feel strange and fast for a diagnosis, even though it’s the same amount of time. They just did the 12 hours all in one go for the purpose of respecting the courts time. In reality though for outpatient, clinicians make a diagnosis after one session, one hour, not because they want to, but because they HAVE to because of insurance purposes. Your first session will not get covered by insurance, and therefore will not get paid, if there is no diagnostic code to give the insurance. We can change the code later after more assessment and therapy, which in reality occur together because as therapy goes on you are uncovering new things to assess and consider for diagnosis, and you are also reassessing to record progress and see what’s working or not. The 12 weeks/12 session aspect comes from the fact the in mental health care treatment plans are typically 12 weeks, where you are assessing, treating, and reassessing. I ALWAYS explain this to my clients and tell them that I am not fond of the first session diagnosis policy or practice. This also has always been explained to me anytime I have been a client myself. I also always inform people about the nature of diagnostic labels themselves, in that they are just there as a tool to help us understand, talk about, and work through the challenges. It’s more of a means to an end (just getting better), than the end all be all. I hope this explanation helps and makes sense!
@@JessieInTheSky09 Thank you for your reply. Yes, what I have a problem with is the fact that it was one 12 hour long assessment over the course of one day instead of separate 1 hour sessions that accumulated into 12 hours over a period of time. Since this is evidence, I feel like the bar should be set way higher than the bar that is set for insurance companies. And the insurance companies just need to find a way to conduct business in an ethical manner. That’s all I can say about the insurance companies. I apologize for the poor grammar. I just woke up from a nap. Have a great day!
Edit: I edited my original comment for clarification. I understand why you assumed that I thought that it was 12 separate sessions.
I'm with you, I think if there has been long term therapy...which in this case there was spanning many years then that should stand rather than a 12 hour diagnosis from someone who was employed by an opposing legal team.
I think important things to note are that she was a forensic psychologist working on behalf of her client which was Depp. She didn't specialize in dealing with and assessing IPV, DV, Trauma or Substance Abuse Disorders. Personally for me this could pose a problem. I would never want to present with one thing and then see someone who's focus is something else that doesn't encapsulate specialisation in those areas. For me I wouldn't want to see someone anxiety or depression based who doesn't specialise in OCD because there may be OCD factors overlooked. The same with seeing someone to diagnose Cluster B's who don't look for Trauma or Autism Spectrum Disorders, OCPD, or Substance Abuse issues in a case involving behaviours that could align with those things and further to that who knows there is a history of Bipolar disorder but isn't putting forth that diagnosis. We know she knew of the bipolar as it was self reported to DRs and nurses and she accidentally said it on the stand instead of BPD in one instance.
Dang girl, very objective and insightful!
I love all your videos 💖
I was waiting for your opinion on this
Omg! Why is the Goomba in the fire now!? 😆
His name is Bucky & he always just moves around 😂
Kanika, I know it sounds weird but can you do a video on "how to dress /style yourself in certain way to attract people"? It would be very helpful.
Your minimal makeup really brings out your features. Very pretty.
It's nice to see a neutral take on this, there aren't many out there.
I think that we have to balance the reality in which ppl with all sorts of personality disorders really do need a push from society and support to go and get help, but also we can't resolve them of any personal responsibility just because of the disorder. They at least have the responsibility to seek help, if not to control their behaviour. So it really does depend on the media and society but it also very much depends on the individual as well
I think they had a toxic relationship. It’s obvious that substance abuse played a huge role in their relationship, therefore I can’t blame her entirely for her behavior given that he was supplying her with endless amounts of drugs. It’s really easy to point the finger at her and make her look crazy… but I’m not entirely sure she’d have behaved that way if there weren’t so many drugs involved.
Help cannot be just GIVEN, it has to be ASKED FOR. Amber Heard had these issues all her life but instead of seeking support she chose to do nothing about it and escalate the situation (to put it mildly). That is 100% her fault. I also highly doubt that all ppl suffering from BPD go around trying to ruin other ppl's lifes like she did.
Amber Heard is not hated by so many ppl because some doctor suspects her of having BPD but because of the stuff she did. Simple as that imo.
Temperaments we are born with but how we deal with them, THATS our character.
That suit is spectacular.
After i started getting to known more about cluster B disorders i finally realize that she is clear example of a narcissist that herself just empty and only one thing she had was publicity and how she made people see her and as far as it was crushed she went down in a second in everyones eyes. What a fait