Luftwaffe Drilling and US M6 Survival Rifle
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Today we're looking at a pair of military survival rifles. One is a Luftwaffe M30 drilling - the most finely finished and luxurious survival rifle ever issued by a military force. The other is a US Air Force M6 survival gun - spartan and utilitarian - the polar opposite of the M30.
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Ah yes the drilling "survival" rifle. Good for Lions, Tigers, Bears, enemy infantry, light amoured cars and small tanks like the Stuart
Stephen Thomas I want to hunt lions. It would keep my mind off of the enemy forces looking for me.
That is, if you can find the right trigger in a hurry.
fmhummel+ when in doubt, pull them all.....something will go bang
Then you might still end up balsting a angry tigher with two barrels of birdshot. You can't shoot all three at once^^
If you have both barrels loaded with birdshot in tiger country you deserve to get nom'd on
greetings from germany, my boss had a M30 back in the days when I started at his gun shop. This is a great gun, the sights are really nice and the 9,3x74R is a good cartridge. The recoil isn't that bad and you can easily hit a human sized target at 300 yards. ok, the M30 isn't the best airplane rifle but it's still a great hunting rifle.
List inside the M30 box:
-operational manual
-back stock and lock
-barrel and handguard
-cleaning kit
-3 piece cleaning rod with rotating grip
-1 flask of gun oil
-tools
-2 cleaning brushes for shotgun barrel
-1 oiled brush for shotgun barrel
-2 cleaning brushes for rifled barrel
-1 oiled brush for rifled barrel
-I don't know the term, something to attach a cleaning pad to the cleaning rod for the rifled barrel
-sling
-birdshot 12 gauge
-slugs 12 gauge
-9,3x74R half jacket
It depends on the shape and how it attached the pad to the rod, if I could find a photo I would be able to do More than speculate.
Till then however, if it was a split road it could use a ring/collar threaded or not.
Clasps, if the cloth was to be skeward on a hook that closed.
If it had replaceable tips for the rod, one with a slot for a cloth, one that had metal brush ect. The its a Dewey Rod
The H- Mantel Bullet mentioned on the List of contents is'nt a Half Jacket as you stated. The Name H-Mantel referres to the H shape of the jacket. It has an lead core with an covered expanding hole an all covered up with an H shaped jacket. The construction is meant to fragmentate the front part of the bullet an the rear part to punch through in order to give deep penetration an even an exit wound.
“Easily hunt human sized target” - in no way troubling
Nobody's saying it's a bad gun. But it is a bad airplane survival gun.
>list of items in the m30 box
>no mention of the gun in the list
My grandfather had a friend who was in north Africa during the war and he had one of these but it was a pretty poor condition example, the barrel was even bent, but it's damage had a fun story behind it, the story goes him and some other soldiers were on the ground watching a distant dogfight between the RAF and Luftwaffe they noticed a smoking German plane with it's engine dead heading towards their direction and the pilot had bailed out above them, while they are watching this guy come down in the parachute contemplating how they are gonna possibly capture the pilot, suddenly that's when they hear a loud crash, a damn Luftwaffe Drilling had smashed straight through the little table they had been playing cards at earlier, somewhere in the chaos the gun had fallen from the plane, went straight through their card table and stuck like a dart in the ground underneath it.
(it's probably just a tall tale but still a fun story XD)
The trigger on the US M6 was designed that way, so it could be operated by some one who"s hand might have been hurt or when using winter weight gloves or mittens.
+James Hart its obvious now you said it thanks
+James Hart The style of trigger they used also allows the gun to fold up better. A normal trigger guard would stick out more than the "paddle" does.
Loading a round of .22 in winter weight gloves or mittens might make a good party game.
Makes perfect sense when you put it like that.
Makes sense
Can't help thinking that this may very well have been a personal decision of Hermann Göring as head of the Luftwaffe. He was a manic hunter and a crazy idea like this would fit his megalomaniac and morphinist mind very well.
I think your right, that gun should come with a funny hat with a feather on it and some morphine.
Derek Pritchard and a shittonn of medals
Hermann should have taken Udet's or even Richthofen's place in death first :( Hermann was a huge stain on a very proud arm of service.
Wuchtamsel i remember reading about a mountain range they flew all kinds of huge big game into for him to hunt
Definitely. That guy was all about style over substance.
"Captain, there's a British Cruiser tank platoon approaching quickly." ........."Hans,......get ze Drilling!"
9.3x74R is still pretty famous among hunters over here in germany, relative of mine used shoot with this caliber :D
Too bad you Germans hadn't held onto them, they would be pretty handy about now.
I still have my German Grandfather's 9.3x74R Mauser. It's great but ammo is hard to find in the states.
I believe that the German drilling, which was obviously an over-the-top selection for it's intended purpose, may have been Herman Goring's doing, as Commander of the Luftwaffe. He was an avid hunter and collector of only the finest in firearms, uniforms, and art. I cannot imagine that any of the Luftwaffe drillings were ever used by a downed pilot. A stocked Luger or C96 broomhandle would have made more sense from a practical standpoint. I guess when you are Der Fuhrer's right hand henchman and a showoff to boot, cost or practicality is not taken into consideration.
I would guess you're right there. This looks like something Hermann Goering would want in his fighter plane in case he decided to drop by one of his many hunting lodges. A .22 rifle is all a survival situation would call for. In any case, in built-up
Europe a gun like this would be a ludicrous choice and even in Ukraine or the Caucasus or the Balkans the last thing a downed pilot with enemies looking for him would do is fire a gunshot.
pinz2022 I doubt if many downed airmen in the European Theatre would have even fired defensive shots at enemy search parties, as it would have meant certain death. The best case scenerio for a downed German airman would be to be found by English or American military, and simply surrender to sit out the war in comfort as a POW. If downed in the East, his fate may not have been the same, especially if he was found by civilians.
J.L. Roberts In the Pacific, downed American pilots would have been better off to shoot as many Japanese soldiers, who had found, them as possible and not surrender alive. No Geneva Convention there.
I had the same thought. Half expected it to have his name on it.
@@pinz2022 22 is really not ideal for survival
To small so your aim has to be better
A cartridge collector had a box of USAF issued .22 Hornet, with a label marked "Not to be used against enemy personnel" presumably since the .22 Hornet had a soft point hunting bullet
Well it's the last firearm i'd like to take into battle anyway. I don't get why these survival rifles are so basic and crude. Why didn't they issue a bolt action rifle instead? A 30-06 would kill almost anything and being a bolt action it's quite simple to use and would work no matter the temperature / environment.
@@Nathan123DavisWeight, and how well does .308 work on rabbits. These weren't supposed to be hunting guns, but survival guns. So you use it on squirrels and rabbits, things one guy can eat quickly.
@@marcusborderlands6177 True. But I wonder how much heavier this would be in .30-30. Truly wonder, because I don't know as much about firearms as so many here do. It would certainly open up the variety of game. If you only come across deer and no rabbits...
@@donjones4719 it would make it a LOT heavier. .30-06 in any configuration needs a stout locking system, while 22 simply needs a small breech with a tiny locking mechanism holding it in place. remember, these were designed to help you survive for days, not weeks. once you go down, the air force would be on its way to save you, as you were worth a LOT to the military.
@@marcusborderlands6177 No doubt, and thanks for replying. But oops! I meant to say .30 M1 Carbine, not .30-30 Winchester. Would that increase the heft of the rifle a reasonably small, acceptable amount? Even for a period of a week or so, it expands your options.
That drilling gun looks amazing. A really high quality sporting gun. I'm sure a lot of these were liberated from their aircraft and used for their intended purpose.
Dan Morgan “liberated”
@@anthonyminarik1962 Strategic Transport of Equipment to Alternate Location. STEAL for short.
@@rogainegaming6924 exactly
@@rogainegaming6924 i am so gonna use that acronym
There are German archive photos of Luftwaffe aircrews on hunting trips and clay pigeon shoots in Norway / Denmark. Goering, the head of the Luftwaffe was an avid hunter with these type of drillings, so the M30 selection for service was understandable. Each M30 came with a quick detachable hunting telescope. The right shotgun barrel could be fitter with a .22 WMR adapter made by Kreighoff Sisapiippl; rifled barrel was approx 12 in. The 9.3x74Rmm chamber could also use the Walther .22LR adapter with approx 4 inch rifled barrel, Thanks, Greg
+Greg Summers Thanks, Greg
+Ty Cetto Hi Ty, i understand Ian's remarks but when you think about the Nazi intent on world domination the M30 was useful against lager game in Norway, Finland, Russian, eastern Europe, USA, etc. There was also a beautiful twist-off quick detachable scope. The 9.3x74Rmm is rated ofr African elephants. Kind regards, Greg
Greg Summers Hi Greg, I did enjoy your additional explanation and the more into details about the WWII I can get, the better. Thanks from Sunny Thailand!
+Ty Cetto Ty I live in Mae Sai northern Thailand. Thank you for your kind remarks. This is a great this great channel. Kind regards, Greg
Greg Summers I got a house inBKK, working in Laem Chabang. PM me should you go to Bangkok, I'll buy you a cold beer!
If i were a luftwaffe pilot, I would have totally stolen that wonderful gun. I love Drillings, and that is a fantastic example.
Psiberzerker “oh? What happened to my drilling? Uhhhhh, I lost it.... yeah I lost it”
@@anthonyminarik1962 Engine was hit and I had to toss it out to reduce ballast… obviously!
if you were luftwaffe pilot after 1942 you really deserved anything you'd want...
At 4:12 it actually is a standard style of eagle. The eagle you normally see was mostly used by the wehrmacht, colored in silver, and by the kriegsmarine in gold. The style of eagle on this gun was the type of eagle standard for the luftwaffe.
Wow, i just realized that that strange rifle my grandfather has must be a M30 Drilling!
+jrw6137
I wasn't sure myself, so i took a closer look when i visited him.
Well, it had no svastikas but it's definitely the commercial version of the
M30. The stamp is from 1935, so it even predates the Luftwaffe drilling.
My gramps inherited it from his uncle together with a whole stash of
illegal firearms from questionable ww2 origin, this is the only item he
kept.
It misses the original case, but whatevs, it's just such a unique beauty!
Could be a krieghoff drilling. Very rare and expensive custom commissioned guns. The one i inherited has the family name and crest on it inlaid in gold. Spoils of war i guess.
As mentioned in other comments, the Drilling concept is and was before the nazis a very common German hunting rifle manunfactured by many manufacturers until today. So it's more like the m30 is the military version of a traditional hunting rifle.
@@GuyFierisShirt It happened shortly after Stalin died, that's 1953 or '54. He had merely been a young officer back then.
Now, the law obviously forbade possessing such a ridiculous amount of firearms (around a dozen pistols, said M 30, let alone the MG 42 with ammo for a battalion) even for servicemen. The sentences were harsh, think of decades in a gulag kind of harsh.
By his account he essentially had no choice but getting rid of everything, safe for a P.38 and the Drilling. He disassembled and dropped the rest piece by piece over several nights from a railway bridge into the river Don.
He didn't seem particularly bitter about it, saying that he only did what had to be done in order to protect his family, himself and by extension everyone he had been friends with.
He died this April, R.I.P. dearest old man
@@XmarkedSpot that's an amazing story, thanks for sharing. Hope you look after the rifle, knowing what it is.
There actually still were lions in North Africa during World War II, with the last ´verified´ (stressing the word) sighting and killing taking place during the war, and elephants can still be found in North Africa in Sudan. While you are right about other parts of Africa being their primary habitats, the point is that actual range of lions in Africa wasn't well known at the time (bear in mind that animal conservation and being able to keep a track of species like we can today didn't really exist back then), and since it was known that there were lions in North Africa (and elephants, which can still be found in North Africa) the drilling was meant to be able to take down anything. Moreover, when the drilling was conceived as being used primarily in the African theater the Germans didn't solely have North Africa in mind; had the Axis defeated the Allies in Egypt they would have certainly sought to reclaim Italy's colonies in East Africa.
I lived in Kenya from 1952 to 1967 and came across one of these rifles, which was much prized by one of the leading big game hunters at that time. The Germans surely knew there were was no large wild animals in the Sahara. If they had penetrated further south, then it would have been a different matter. Would someone please tell Ian there are no tigers in Africa.
Adrian Larkins
Did you manage to fire it?
Sam Russell No. I was only 13 at the time. I'm now 70. I remember it well because like most school boys of that era, I was a WW2 history enthusiast.
You are right if you are referring to the southern regions of North Africa, but lions, etc. were almost extinct in the Sahara. The chances of an encounter by a downed pilot were virtually nil.
uncletigger Very expensive placebo. I've actually held one of these guns. See my previous comment. They are top quality and heavy. Utterly ridiculous. If it was just for the placebo effect, a pistol or a service rifle would have done the trick.
It has occurred to me this might well have been a direct order from Goering. He was a fanatical hunter and was the self appointed Reich Master of the Hunt. When his beloved pilots were going to Africa, I can imagine him in a morphine induced haze saying,
"My pilots must be protected when they come down. Issue them with the best game rifles"
This is pure conjecture but it has a strong ring of probability.
My grandad lived in Germany after the war ended and he used to own one of these. He gave it away before he returned to England, he always regretted that!
Why the the government would have took it any way.
Could have disassembled is and send it home piece by piece.
I have actually shot one of these Drillings before, although it was the commercial version and a bit more embellished. My next-door neighbor is a dentist who happens to be a hobbiest safari hunter, and he inherited one of these from his father. It was in this exact same chambering too. These guns are amazingly accurate, we shot the rifled barrel at 100 yards and it was holding insanely tight groups. It's a light recoiling round for how large it is, I thought it kicked like a .308.
Having a pair of shotgun barrels mounted above it with all the weight that involves isn't exactly going to hurt when it comes to recoil reduction or return to battery.
You'd be suprised, those guns really only weigh about 7lbs. The lack of a magazine or a complex action keeps them pretty light.
***** Perhaps, & point taken - but the weight of the SxS shotgun setup would appear to be where it does most good, directly over the rifle barrel, where it ought to help control muzzle "rise".
jsm666
9.3 is still a fairly popular European caliber. It's known for it's knockdown power despite being a reasonably low pressure cartridge. Think of it as a European 45/70. It doesn't have to knock you on your ass to do the job on the other end..
Your dentist inherited a Drilling? Oh the irony......... ;-)
typical german war design, overcomplicated and probably expensive as hell to manufacture. fantastic piece of engineering though.
like the FG42.
The Drilling was and to some extend still is THE German hunting weapon.
It was probably a very obvious choice for them to resort to that kind of weapon.
As for the price, well, an aeroplane is an incredible expensive piece of equiptment.
It's crew consists of well and expensively trained valuable people.
Who cares about the cost of a gun that will probably only be issued once for every plane and does not increase significantly the overall system cost?
Later in the war material and manufacturing machine time were very valuable ressources, so they could no longer justify that kind of gear I guess.
Still nice and very typical German hunting gun.
YOU SUCK!!!
get rekt kid
As usual
“You want a shotgun or rifle for your soldiers if they fall behind enemy lines?”
Yes
The M6 trigger was made that way so you could use it with gloves on. Also the barrel selector lever on the hammer has a safe position in the middle where it would not fire either barrel.
When my grandfather went to work in Germany for a couple of years, he lived with a war veteran (brilliantly kind guy towards an immigrant despite being a Nazi) that was also a hunting fanatic. They used to go hunting together and my grandpa always told me that he had a beautiful gun with three barrels that was named “Triklin”. I now understand that this is the gun he was referring to but his friends heavy Bavarian accent made him miss-hear its name.
Saddest part is that when the gun’s owner died, he gave all of his guns + a napoleonic era sword to my grandfather. My grandfather was not in Germany at that time and when he went back to claim what was left to him, he found the whole house looted by his friend’s greedy relatives.
I miss your opening sequence, Ian. That music gets me going every time.
Coming back to older videos like this is really interesting when you see how reserved Ian was on camera vs now
Makes you wonder if after withdrawn from service if Germany officers didn't snatch up the drilling M30's. Plus what a trophy if you were the first Allied troops on a crash site in WW2. Great video
Those Nazis loved to piss away money on expensive unnecessary weapons. That Drillings is a beautiful gun and the auto flip up rear sight is super cool, my jaw dropped when you said 9.3x74r! Talk about overkill to the max. I can't believe that this was issued, or even considered. How did they ever get approval for that? They should have added custom ingraving with the pilots initials and gold inlays while they were wasting money on this. This is one of many reasons they lost the war.
Its paltry compared to the cost of the aircraft, and you need a lot less than frontline troops would.
Göring happened.
For real, when Germany realized that the war would not be short. Major overhauls were done to the war industry, and departments with massive political power and little to no oversight were suddenly thoroughly investigated by the government. The issues stemmed from the fact that each branch of the military had significant control over their respective assigned production facilities. In essence, Göring was hoarding precious and rare metals for largely insignificant aircraft parts for no good reasons.
From mid 1942, German military production skyrocketed. No longer were variants of existing vehicles issued on a near monthly basis, already finished equipment were forbidden from entering the factory to update to a newer variant except when deemed critical, metals were no longer given a finish except when deemed absolutely necessary and firms were forced to share industry techniques and secrets with every single firm deemed vital to war industry. Furthermore, the cost of military equipment was strictly enforced to be fixed. As opposed to the government paying whatever the vehicle actually cost to produce + a premium.
The M30 Luftwaffe drilling gun was only produced between 1941 and 1942. Presumably, it was quickly discontinued when Albert Speer assumed the office of Armament Minister.
"I can't believe that this was issued, or even considered. How did they ever get approval for that? "
The Chief of the Luftwaffe Hermann Göring was a passionatet Hunter... maybe this is your answer why the give Pilots Guns like this one ;-)
Hermann Goring, that is all.
The Nazis sees themselves as the elite of the elites, and wealth is what elites like to have and likes to spend with. So they see themselves spending money on fancy and wasteful stuff as ways to prop up their elite status.
that eagle standing on the swastika, i believe is the Luftwaffe Eagle.
PKx ANC1ENT Yes, that is correct.
Forgotten Weapons love ur videos, man. i turn 21 on the 29th, and you convinced me to get the replica FG42! i just wish it wasnt 5k. but im a huge history buff, and it seems totally worth it! lol. keep up the good work!
+Forgotten Weapons , if I may ask. what clip is the ballistic gel from?
+Marcus Swisher his ross mk3 ep
Jeremy de Jonge ,ty appreciate it
Do they have any Soviet cosmonaut survival guns for sale?
Sadly, no.
Forgotten Weapons damn. I saw one at the Stafford air and space museum. The curator at the museum allowed me to hold the gun. It was really cool to get to hold a gun that's been to space.
What? Really? What did they need guns in space for?
Roger Wilson thegoodshephard1
Nothing, but they might need them when they landed back on earth. Early capsule landings weren't super precise and the Soviets landed theirs in Siberia so the crew might end up spending a couple of days in the wilderness before the groundcrew arrived.
WTF! Can't hit Russia from space, that's the new "Couldn't piss on the side of a barn."
I really like your old theme song! Even though I have just discovered your channel and I appreciate how much better your videos have become over the years - damn that is one slick tune. It perfect captures your tone and message of your channel.
Keep up the great work Ian!
Trust me, the M6 is not a forgotten weapon. Highly sought after in the outdoorsman circle
Sure, but when was the last time you saw an Air Force issue one?
Forgotten Weapons A rarity no doubt, but far from being out of the back of our minds lol.
I hadn't heard of the M6 till this video.
@@ForgottenWeapons besides that, even if I wanted one for actual use, I wouldn't want to use a pricey, historical AF model.
@bert smith Ian even mentioned it in the video, the reproductions for the civilian market have a longer barrel, 18.5 inches instead of 14.5 inches.
Makes sense, the head of the German Air Force Goering was a avid hunter.
This gun set up is his favorite type of gun to go out into the woods with, so he has basically issued it his boys until the war effort demanded common in arms orders.
Ooooh, an M30 Drilling! I'm getting all jelly here right now...
Great info as always.
Interesting information.
I love playing some battlefield rounds and then coming to this CZcams channel to hear all of the info about the guns I was just using :)
I wish they had locker in bf5
A great Liam Neeson film could made about him crashing and then surviving waves of enemies with just the M6 and his sidearm using the M6 to take impossibly long shots and such
By long shots do you mean 30m. ?
Man, that M30 drilling is pretty awesome.
Id love to see a Russian (Soviet) TP82 survival weapon. The history of it is amazing.
This M30 is utterly ludicrous, but I really REALLY want it.
Mac Brown don’t we all?
Wow this came up at my YT wall,, so cool this old style vids with the intro song 🎯
So much owed by so many to so few.
This is the 2nd time I am actually coming back to a video of yours because I looked a gun up instead of just watching it on release.So to say, your video collection starts to fullfill it's work as an archive.
I love how the Nazis took their informtion about Africa from intensive considered studies of Mowglis adventures in the Jungle book...
Or, more likely in my opinion, the entire project was someone's pet project to make luxury guns.
Adventurous wealthy people went to and visited north africa, I doubt the decision was truly out of honest lack of knowledge, rather corruption seems more likely.
As other stated, large game was still observed in northern Africa at that time. Further, why would you presume the Germans would be satisfied with just North Africa. I assume there were intents to take it all.
@@calebsmith418 The Sdkfz 234 is proof of that. It was born Schwere Panzerspähwagen Tropish and was intended to be used in the newly conquered german colonies in africa, that's also why it's equipped with a diesel engine even though the whole german army used gasoline because diesel gives more range.
My granddad has a similar gun, he once fired a rifle shot after a snipe because he confused the safety and 'mode' selector.
uncletigger
Not to my knowledge no, but it would have been hard to confirm if you didn't witness the impact itself seeing as a small bird such as a snipe would be nearly atomized from a hit with a .30-06.
uncletigger
I do love a good hunting story. Hell, it's half the reason I go hunting now and then,
I appreciate him pointing out how curiously ridiculous this weapon is. Makes me wonder what the real purpose of it was...
I just friggin love the M30 Drilling. I have later made Sauer & Sohn in the same calibers. It is by far my most used hunting rifle, drillings for the win!
4:15 It’s not the standard eagle because this is a Luftwaffe gun, not an Army weapon. The air force had its own eagle. This is the pattern we see here, with the Eagle diving
Would love a re-review of the drilling in higher quality.
I like watching your camera skills evolve. You educating us has a well, which is good because you don't need to. It's obvious your interest in what you give us is absolutely pure technical. Thanks.
The drilling was probably my favorite shotgun ever in a battlefield game and was awesome in bf5. The gun used I think buckshot in the shotgun barrels able to drop a guy at a decent distance for a shotgun in that game and the rifle barrel was as deadly as a sniper rifle meaning with enough aim skill you could 1 shot somebody in the head at the same distances of the sniper rifles or more commonly out of range of the shotgun shells but still easy to see with iron sights.
I would love to hear an account of a downed crewman actually using one in combat. Or one being used as a last ditch weapon at the end of the war or something. I really wonder if any were ever used.
Out of the 2 I think I would pick the German one, it came with more ammo and allowed me to hunt big game, 22 what is that going to do and you only had 9 shots worst case scenario.
If you got shot down in the north africa dessert what big game are you talking about?And trust me you don't want to lug that monstrous thing in 120 deg heat while you wounder around looking for water.
A little translation for the contents that used to be in the box:
1 Manual and instructions
1 butstock with receiver
1 triplet of barrels with handguard
1 cleaning kit containing:
a) 3 piece cleaning rod with adjustable grip
b) 1 small bottle of cleaning oil
c) miscellaneous cleaning patches
d) 2 cleaning brushes for the shotgun barrels
e) 1 lubrication brush for the shotgun barrels
f) 2 cleaning brushes for the rifle barrel
g) 1 lubrication brush for the rifle barrel
h) 1 adaptor to attach a cleaning patch to the cleaning rod
1 rifle sling
25 shotgun shells 12 gauge 2,5 inch number 3 shot
20 Brenneke shotgun slugs 2,5 inch
20 9,3x74mmR hollow-point rifle cartridges
I learn something every time I watch one of these fascinating videos. Keep up the great work.
WOW!! This is what you want to find in a scruffy box left to you by your grandfather!
The Drilling is still a common hunting gun in germany. But i can't really believe, that they ordered this Drilling for defending against animals. I think this was really for hunting food or maybe to pretend that you are a hunter, when getting to allied forces. On the box it said H-Mantel, which is a typical hunting cartridge. You certainly wouldn't try a gunfight, with such a weapon. Sauer & Sohn is the other half of Sig Sauer btw, but they basically just produce hunting rifle (Sauer 202, 303 for instance), which is to be known as the smoothest bolt action out there (at least in europe. Nice video as always, thanks!
maybe Herrman Göring had an influence in the introduction of this gun, as you might know he was the head of the German air force, as well as the Reichsjägermeister (don't know how to excatly translate it: chief of all hunters??). In fact he was a passioned hunter. I think that he, as a lover of fine hunting guns, had a big influence in the introduction of this high quality rifle. He actually did something similar, when it was decided that Krieghoff should produce the FG 42 (Krieghoff was until that time producing hunting rifles as well as some P08s).
Nasen affe
Yap i knew that, Görings Matador is still in a museum in Munich. But the Krieghoff story is knew to me. But makes sense, since Krieghoff didn't invented this weapon. Danke für die Info ;)
Nasen affe
Yap i knew that, Görings Matador is still in a museum in Munich. But the Krieghoff story is knew to me. But makes sense, since Krieghoff didn't invented this weapon. Danke für die Info ;)
I really love that design. A weapon designed to let you kill anything you could conceivably meet and catch your dinner afterwards. And, as a bonus, you look fabulous while doing it (the pigeon stamped on the barrel ruins the look a bit).
Back in the 70's I knew an old boy who kept an M6 in his jeep. It was the same M6 he used when he was shot down in the pacific, or so he said. He had been shot down, but the one he had might have just fallen in his gear one day... I knew a CW4 who served in Vietnam who had a WWII era that he liberated, new in the box, from North Vietnamese troops.
When we are talking about a complete airplane, does the price of a Drilling per crew really matter?
Ask yourself, what gun would you prefer if being stranded in African wildlife? Ever seen a cape buffalo or a hippo, not talking about leopards, lions and elephants at all? Yeah, try the hornet and good luck!
I've tried the Hornet, and thanks for the luck.
There are no Hippos, Elephants and Lions north of Sahara desert.
that M30 is awesome
Always find survival guns of a special interest. Thanks for posting this video.
Those were both very cool. I really like the M6 it seems like a really practical emergency gun to stash
If you want the latest version of the m6 check out the CHIAPPA ARMS CO. They were the ones making them last.
Interestingly (or not depending on your point of view) the ammunition for these survival rifles was hollowpoint .22 hornet and came in boxes with warnings on telling you that they were solely for hunting food or defending against animal attact and do not engage the enemy, this obviously is because shotguns and hollowpoints are banned under international convention from battlefield use. Not that the viet-cong cared and more worryingly neither do the yanks...
charles shipman I've read that in a survival and evasion situation you do not want to engage the enemy because to do so will get you killed and your nifty under powered single shot will end up as war booty in some slope's hut. If you shot a civilian it would just encourage the others to hunt you down or turn you in when they may otherwise look the other way.
+charles shipman Shotguns were never banned, hollowpoints were under the Saint Petersburg Declaration. The German army protested against the trench sweeper shotgun in WW1, but the Allies ignored it because it was, and still is, legal to use a shotgun against the enemy in wartime. You are correct about the hollow point ammunition though.
lol alot of people have no idea whats allowed in war there's a work around for almost every " Ban " on the books. Any weapons that say can only be used on enemy equipment and not personnel well body armor, a rifle hell even boots are enemy equipment you weren't shooting at personnel you were aiming at the equipment .
Should of sent this to Michael condrey and the clowns at sledgehammer games
Yes
Fun Fact: the crossed cannons and bomb is not actually owned by Springfield, it is the Emblem of the U.S. Army Ordinance Corps, Springfield adopted it due to their close ties to the U.S. military
My absolute most totally favorite non-suppressed weapon in the “sniper elite” series. By the way great video as usual
It's a Luftwaffe Eagle
That Drilling is magnificent! Beautiful gun with very cool historic appeal! The flip up sight is one of the neatest little intricate gun features I recall seeing!
What do you suppose one is worth? How about its case?
It would be neat to shoot a few times, may be hard on your wallet to fire the 9.3x74R!
Ian, your casual, deliberate, well enunciated, well-informed delivery is always a welcome alternative to all the rock-em, sock-em other "gun sites". One piece of trivia, and a good example of how- WHEN pressed, and if they want to, our US Gov't CAN save money !
Anyone else notice at 8:08, how they saved a couple of bucks on a punch by NOT stamping the decimal on either the .22 caliber or '.410 'gauge' rear sight? ;-).
Apparently the M6 had that trigger because during the cold war the most likely crash site was in cold weather, and it allows one to fire with mittens.
what are those sounds in every video in the background at RIA? sounds like sport fencing or throwing metal baskets to each other. What's that noise, Ian?
Balázs Török using a camera microphone instead of a lapel mic
I WANT A DRILLING SO BAD
I miss the old intro, I have the new production TPS M6 and it’s such a fun little rifle.
Very cool, Ian!
Did the survival kit also come with some aged scotch?
Morro i think they gave some high quality cognac
GUYS haven't all of you learned? this guy never respond to more then one comment.
Never.
Never say never, I see 2 Ian's comments under this video :D
You know this actually makes kind of sense for the savanna lands and deserts of North Africa . The shot gun gives you plenty of small to horse size food (shell assortment) the rifle gives you range and a little anti material usage also.
Shotguns are a very good weapon for aircrew survival.
Of course this firearm is insane for what it was for.
But if I was flying across Canada , Alaska or any number of jungles and tundra I would feel fortunate to have this with me when the plane went down..
What a hoot! This Old Jaeger certainly appreciates your presentation of the Suhler. Waidmannsdanke!
What do pilots these days carry? Just regular pistols?
Ace Of Blazes Swedish pilots use glock 19s but i dont know about other army's like the us and british
Spartan Nick R192 Interesting. So they only use a pistol? I would have thought they would have a carbine shoved into the bottom of their seat of nearby to grab before they hop out but eh. If you get shot down in a fighter to start with, chances are you'd be lucky to survive the way down or the initial downing.
Ace Of Blazes i think its a bit weird do to that the police have ak5d's which are extremely short ak5's but we are the same country that nationalism is a taboo the only way to have a gun is basically a hunting license which means you have a maximum of 4 rifles/shotguns if you don't "have a valid reason" and it has to be a non military design if it was made after 1942 have a maximum of 5 rounds and have no tactical attachments like a pistol grip (yes you can get pistols and ar15's if you have a ispc license but they are basically impossible to get so good luck getting more than a bolt action if you dont want a browning bar semi auto
Spartan Nick R192 The fuck kind of weird gun laws are those?!
Ace Of Blazes swedens gun laws which stinks ass
The US m6 should have been made to shoot .22 .419 45 acp and 45 long cold as the .410 should be able to handle all those like my S&W Governor. That would have made a cool zombie gun.
If I was stranded in the middle of nowhere I`d feel much happier with the M3,you can`t have too much gun.
I have a drilling at home and use it for hunting. It is not a WW2 piece, but still, german old school drilling nontheless. It's a very high quality gun with a complex system of features.
4:08 DEMONETIZED
*BattleField V intensifies*
Ian, you're the freaking man...
I have an M6 looking survival rifle in my attic! It must be everywhere if I happen to have one, passed down to me from my father who also forgot about the thing. I think it looks really interesting. I never took it to the range, I should make sure it's running well and take it for a spin.
I love your channel because it's full of interesting guns that you don't get from any other fire arm channel that repeatedly runs the AR, AK, and Mosin/Kar./Springfield circuit. I love what you're doing sir, keep it up.
"Ya, ve vas just hunting and we saw und plane crash, ya. Pay no attention to us. Ve go on our vay now"
Who else is here because of Battlefield 5
Both of those guns are really cool.:D
$2,250 for an aluminum box!!! I honestly love that drilling though. It's beautiful.
Germany wins.
If your not first your last.
al-u-min-E-um
+Myles Quinn You can't even break up a word the right way so shut the **** up, please.
you got the idea....
+Myles Quinn potato -- potato
+tman008 yet your speaking English
Myles Quinn Myles, people from the north of England have vastly different pronunciation to those in the south of England. east west also. The Southern Irish pronunciation of the England language is considered my many philologists as one of the best. While Oxford university researched the american accent recently and concluded that it is closer to the actual British accent of the 16th /17th century. Indeed the modern British accent has evolved radically over the past couple of centuries. Australians pronounce things differently and indeed in the standardized BBC English the pronunciation of R is dropped when preceded by a vowel... known as the rhotic rule.
What should all this tell you Myles? Indeed what should it tell you about the pronunciation of words like aluminium in the North american vernacular? I should hope the answer is pretty obvious
I am not even a gun nut, but your videos just rock and you seem to be a really cool dude. Keep it going!
thanks for the videos. I really enjoy hearing about the history and mechanics of the oldies.
fyi, the white background of the table made it hard to see much detail. the black you use in other vids works much better.
thanks again!
That m3 is beautiful, first time I ever heard of it.
Cool fact about this video, Ian's suggestion that the drilling was based on a misguided belief that lions lived in north Africa is actually listed on the wikipedia page for the drilling
Loved the video
I've recently began seeing these drilling guns everywhere, one sold at my local auction for around $2000
Cool gun's. What a difference in mind set.
Man, this is an old video. LOL You were just a kid! You haven't changed much physically, but I bet you know a whole lot more now than you knew then!
So this gun must have gone for an incredible amount of money! It's beautifully made!
Another great video.