Mad Max: The Story of Immortan Joe and his Rise and Fall
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Dive into the riveting story of Immortan Joe, the central antagonist from "Mad Max: Fury Road" and the upcoming prequel "Furiosa." This video explores Joe's transformation from a decorated Australian Army Colonel to a ruthless warlord ruling over the post-apocalyptic wasteland. Discover the complexities of his character, from his strategic brilliance and brutal leadership to his physical vulnerabilities and obsessive quest for a healthy heir. As we delve into Joe's rise to power, his harsh rule, and his ultimate downfall, we confront the blurred lines between villainy and leadership in a world where survival demands brutality. Join us as we unravel the multifaceted legacy of one of the most intriguing and provocative characters in the Mad Max franchise. - Zábava
I love how usually in other countries with apocalyptic themes its always gritty survival but with Australia its just "lets worship v8 car engine and believe in Valhalla" haha
😂fr tho
Moral of the story... If the apocalypse happens move to Australia💀
It's not post-apocalyptic fiction, it's just a documentary about how Australians handle any standard economic recession.
Hes a man and a military vet that wasn't going to happen against Charlize 😂
@@WalkerChristopher11 She's just a mary-sue though
Back to history, Immortan is like a King-priest of the Micenean age, while Dementus is a sort of Lord of the steppe (eg Attila), leading a horde of nomads.
That's a good analogy 👍
@@andreanatili8846 yeah I don't think Joe is even a villain he's actually almost like a Messiah.Without joe nobody would've survived the wasteland.He even keeps the decrepit diseased old folks alives who live in holes.They bring nothing to the table.they can't find they can't do anything they are just weak an old and joe for some reason keeps em alive even giving them water.Ifbjoevwas pure evil he would've killed all those people on the grounds of the citadel they only take up resources and do nothing in return.Wuthout joe the citadel would be destroyed gas town and bullet farm would all be destroyed
Dementus is a idiot poser
Dememtus, I would argue, was the better tactical and military leader, we don't get to see it but he is better in a lot of ways to joe and not in others, at least who Joe is at the time as we don't get to see Joe when he was taking and building up his group/ gang.
He would have made a great general for Joe / right-hand man / his succeser, but Joe is more well-rounded and better at resources management, it's almost unlucky they didn't team up to take out the place of abundance and then Joe would have seen his potential as his actual succeser, and the protector of his blood line and everything he's built and spent his life devoted to.
The place of abundance is a nice place, but in a world like that, it was too weak and silly to exist in the way it's shown in the show, it was only a matter of time before it was found and conquered, its unfortunate they whent the way they did but the citadel will likely be destroyed by other warlords later on as the much weaker people own it now, I just don't see it surviving in a world like that enless there population is just to massive for anyone to conquer.
Didn’t spot the symbolism there that’s good work.
Interestingly, the previously immortal Joe was a man who lived at an address in Sydney before the collapse of society and nuclear war began.
@@kocovgoce I don't think Joe is even a villain.He isn't cruel we never see him cruel to others he's like an anti hero.For example on the citadel grounds he has thousands of cannibals in holes who are all decrepit diseased old weak and serve no purpose to Joe.Like war boys his mechanics ECT are valuable to him.But these people who are walking corpses can't protect the citadel they are only more mouths to feed.Giving them water even though it's not enough but he still does trying to accommodate people who are useless so why does he keep these old people who can barely walk alive and even wasting resources on them .If he was evil all of these decrepit looking people living in these holes in the ground he would just have em killed but he doesn't.They do nothing but are more mouths to feed.They also aren't warriors fighting in road wars cause the can't.So he just always them to live while giving them just enough to survive.Thats not evil that's actually a decent leader.without joe all the hydroponics solar panels helping grow greens with ability to use and recycling water would stop causing deaths to everyone.Jo Joe is actually the Messiah he is the savior of the wasteland and doesn't kill unless provoked.He united both gas town and bullet farm causing a more prosperous wasteland until Dementus comes along and completely cause this perfect union into complete chaos.Dementus is the true villain.He also gathers healthy beautiful women to give him an heir to continue this reign on the the wasteland.He even out a chastity belt on her protecting her from being raped.He didn't just kidnap these women he puts them up in a luxurious 4 star condo with a hotub pools with plenty of entertainment.He didn't take them to sexually abuse them or hurt them.He needed a son and the woman agreed even the women after still birth was crying cause she didn't want to be booted out.But he needs a heir and there's nothing sexual about it.Joe is definitely the most misunderstood character he isn't even the villain.Dementus comes along and basically destroyed em everything
@@DouglasBull-rk6tv I also don't think Joe was capable of getting it on he was just too sick so they were probably infusing these women with his semen.
@@DouglasBull-rk6tv but he was a creep and his brother was a pervert rapper (ist)...
@@FentaGeorgieson, not brother
Correction.
Technically Immortan Joe is a secondary antagonist in the prequel as the main antagonist is Dementus portrayed by Chris Hemsworth.
Dementus has the entire villain arc of the prequel movie.
joe shows up only when Dementus attempts conquest of Joe's fortress
Hemsworth was so good in that role, I forgot it was even him until after the movie was over and I was reminded
Calm down bro your autism is showing 😂😂😂
I think george miller should have made a inmorten joe origin story leading up to fury road, instead of furiosa
Yeah that woulda been awesome, it's such a interesting character, furiosa was a good character too, but not even close to Joe.
Aww yeah, that would have been much better. Joe is such a good character, he just oozes charisma.
Agreed 💯
no more prequels!!! Prequels by definition, are spoiled. You can show origin story inside main movie through narrations and flash backs
@@hersonissoswolf3699 Isn't Furiosa a prequel though.
What do you want to see than?
What a great character overview! I never knew he was a decorated war veteran. Thanks for sharing
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the overview. It's always interesting to learn more about character's backgrounds, especially when it's as impressive as Immortan Joe. Thanks for watching!
He started his career as a lieutenant in the vietnam war and later became a major in the oil war between saudi arabia and iran in 1975 since the nuclear war of 1984 would have the rank of colonel
The real question, did anyone thank him for his service? I bet he didn't even get a free meal and IHOP on Australians Veteran's Day. Kinda justifies everything else.
Bro we need an Immortan Joe Prequel Film or Game.
His character is perfect as a War hero turned Warlord.
Saw a great video once that breaks down how Immortan Joe is the good guy and Furiosa is the villain in Fury Road. It’s very convincing. An example is how Joe rations the water in order to conserve it, while as soon as Furiosa takes charge, she carelessly and wastefully releases it all at once.
What's the name of that video? It sounds pretty interesting, I want to watch it!
but it is clearly implied in the move that there is enough for everyone, but joe rationed it to keep the people under his thumb
@@meganoob12I mean sure there is enough for everyone but by not rationing it that enough for everyone will only last so long especially if more and more people keep coming. Also once it dries up you are far far worse off than you already were since that massive piece of life is now gone. Short term it’s incredible to let everyone have it but long term it’s the worst possible thing.
You are wrong peace between Joe and Dementus wasn't short lived..it was 15 years of peace before the 40 day war.
And because of that, that's why I think the fall of Dementus wasn't because of his leadership, But because the nature of his biker horde. All nomads at heart, they escaped with their lives during the apocalypse because other nomadic nature. Outdoor cats can't be indoor cats no matter how much they want to.
@@spaced86outthis and also dementus never really wanted stability. He thrived on chaos
"Do not my friends become addicted to water! It will take hold of you! And you will resent it's absence!" - Immortan Joe
@@imnotcreative2214 that was hilarious.when he said that while he has all the water he wants.
@@DouglasBull-rk6tv It could be just me but I didn't laugh at that scene. I did laugh when Nux took off the steering wheel and put it up in the air while flooring it in the middle of the desert.
1:33 wonder where they went? Other lands in the South Pacific?
@@Jarod-vg9wq My guess would be the waters receded about 200 to 300 below the current sea level. There was a nuclear war at some point which would have put the Earth's climate back to the Ice Age.
You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become a villain
Wow, no shit? Did you come up with that? Its awesome.
@@HumungusO_onope not me... it's from metal gear solid,snake eater, big boss is the one who said it as well as his mentor the joy
Dark Knight
@@mikoxmas6122 Yes him too
In America your either a hero or they label you as a terrorist if you know too much..
Oddly, the biggest conundrum of the entire Furiosa film, one that bothered me the entire time, was how did Dementus get a LeMat Revolver in such pristine condition.
Why is everything in this movie in pristine condition.
In road warrior Max didn't have shells for his gun. Wez was using arrows and air pressured dart weapons . The 100 million whatever budget made them dramatically reboot the concept of the world , the sense of lack. The scarcity of stuff. Which now seems to be in abundance.
They are clean but not the originals in most cases, they are created with parts. The LeMat just stood out to me.
He definitely collected it as a Colonel.
@@kev30631 the timeline was rebooted in the comics, everything from MM1 to fury road happened within a single lifetime
@@anomalocaris7436 that my friend is crazy. You have anime inspired ripoffs that are coming up with better wider continuity. Look at fist of the Northstar. Vampire hunter D has that post apocalypse feel.
Madmax should be traveling to bizzare creative, different made up places that are dangerous and disconnected to his previous adventure. Or get him out of Australia.
Kind of like elder Mason from the Fallout universe if he was stuck on a Desert Island. Had good goals in the beginning but when even basic resources like food and water become a luxury, things turn even uglier in a heartbeat.
I really wish theyd have stretched out the timeline. Theres no way to have "Fury Road" within a time that could reasonably be our own. If Joe was a Colonel in the Australian Army that would have to be the case
This should be like 500.years from now. I think of MadMax as a folk hero whose story is told by word burgers. Mad Max is actually a bunch of different people but their exploits are all ascribed to a single semi-legendary folk hero a la Paul Bunyan or johnny Appleseed. That would explain how he was a cop in a functional state and a nomad in a totally transformed world
I like this idea a lot. Makes sense. And helps with recasting in the future.
@@EricWilkinson-e3b thank you😁. Yeah it's the only way it makes sense to me. I figure Immortan Joe can be like the 30th great grandson of the actual Joe that was the military hero in our time frame. But each one takes on the mantle of Joe, pretending they are the same "IMMORTAL" Joe. That would explain the obsession with having a healthy son to take up the name.
There was Max Rockatansky, probably the cop from the first movie. Not only was he a cop in an at least semi functional society but he was on vacation with his wife and kid. I don't think a vacationing society fits into the Fury Road world. But maybe someone found the jacket with an officer Max Rockatansky I.D. and that's how the legend began or the name was totally invnted or whatever, but there's like at least a couple hundred years there between original Mad Max and Fury Road. Oh and the more stories Told about this legendary Max, the greater the likelihood people will name their children Max, so the at least 3 or 4 versions of Max we've seen could have reasonably been named Max.
Because if I couldn't make sense of that shit in my head , I dont see how I could have gone on living🤔😁 This is the bullshit I'm thinking about when I should be putting my life together. By e now
@@EricWilkinson-e3b and yes it helps with recasting. The Word Burger (burgher?) Telling the tales of the first 3 pictured a Max that looked like Mel Gibson (going meta here but being Australian maybe the word burger saw an ancient magazine with an old picture of Mel and mentally modeled him on Gibson.....
This is how I have viewed mad max.
A bunch of stories that because of a lack of literatury means, is being told mouth to mouth around campfires and than they slowly merged into the story about this legendary road warrior.
@@bjorndevogel8339 I'm glad I'm not the only person who's leading the mad Max timeline rent space in their heads. Did you read about my meta idea because it's Mel Gibson in one movie and Tom Hardy and another movie that's because the different word burgers had seen ancient magazines one had seen a magazine that had Mel Gibson in it so he picture Max looking like Mel Gibson and another one had seen a magazine with Tom Hardy so he picture them looking like Tom Hardy that explains why this different actors playing it isn't that actually kind of a cool idea
Imortan Joe wasn't the bad guy, in fact, without him the citadel may be doomed and the last bastion of humanity will be wiped out. He was guarding and rationing the water in that spring, and you can see at the end of the movie that no one is going to ration it now.
Agreed. The Citadel would be ransacked and ruined once the Wretched had free reign. The only way it would survive is if someone stood up and took control like Joe did.
Without the stewardship of Immortan Joe, the Citadel will crumble. It was no bigger than Bartertown if the Immortan couldn’t raise an heir to the throne.
Yeah it's very hard to be a moral leader during the literal apocalypse when the world is dying or pretty much dead
Joe made the best in an impossible situation
I highly disagree.
A) He was a bad guy. He forced women to become his sex slaves. Held back all of the water and food to feed his inner circle. And, he transformed himself into a God-king and built an army of gullible young men.
B) Calling the citadel a bastion of humanity is a bit of a stretch. It was a bastion for Joe and his inner circle. The humans living at the base of the citadel (the crowds at the start of Fury road) were eating cadavers and living in miserable conditions. They looked like shambling corpses despite living right beneath it.
C) Immortan Joe wasn't smart with his water dispersion. He just opened the valves, forcing the people fight for the right to drink water. Also, since no one had proper tools to harvest the water, most of it was wasted on the ground.
D) "no one is going to ration it now" The scene shows how Furiosa wants share the water and food with the people living down below, not just the royalty who live high in the citadel. Everyone seems to be well fed and Immortan wasn't rationing anything up there. Immortan produced enough water and food to feed both Gas Town and the Bullet Farm. This indicates that the citadel is capable of producing a ton of surplus.
Also, don't forget the Vuvalini seeds that Furiosa brought back. This help the citadel flourish even more.
I get that Joe is a cool character and he managed to accomplish a lot in the world of Fury Road, but he's not a "good" guy.
Sounds like the justifications of tyrants given ever since time immemorial.
Frankly, I'd love to see HBO and George Miller redevelop this genre into a Game of Thrones-style TV series called The Wasteland. The collapse of civilisation from the Story of Imortan Joe would be epic on a streaming series even if they did it for 3-5 seasons.
That would be sick
That would be great
Immortan Joe is not even a villain, as the Furiosa movie further elaborated. He was the only Warlord that kept order throughout the entire mess and led the masses. Dementus went insane due to his own stupidity, and Bullet Farm follows Joe. If it wasn't for Furiosa and her stupid girlbossing, Immortan would rule as he should in Valhalla on earth. Shiny and Chrome.
@@Jigsaw0097 lmao girl bossing.And his wives were living in luxury I never understood
We need imortan joe prequel how he manage to control the wasteland!
Say what you will about Joe. His system worked, he obviously loved his children and for the most part kept to himself, just defending gas town, the bullet farm and the citadel
He also fought in the frontlines with his army
The Wasteland movie needs to have more of Immortan Joe's origin story in it alongside the details of how Mad Max became involved with the events of Fury Road.
Would be cool if Joes Cult of the V8 was based on Maxs V8 Interceptor.
You failed to mention that Joe was played by the same actor that played Toecutter in the first movie.
You know old wise man use to say, die like a hero or live longer as a villain
Dementus gave Wolf Creek and Joker vibes! Phenomenal acting and script!!!
Christopher Nolan Batman: ‘You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain…’
Joe’s origin story could have made an even better prequel than Furiosa.
"Safeguard your personal information" and it's paired up with a bunch of AI slop. Powerful.
Usualy i always imagine how i would be waaaay mightier than the villians in movies but i have respect for joe
He is way too good st his job to waste him to my blade
I would try to make an aliance
If it fails i would still honor him as one of top my trophies
The bulletfarmer is such a funny guy
He is my favorite
It's always fun to imagine being mightier than the villains in movies, but some characters just earn your respect, like Joe
@@PulsaStartENyou done a video on the bullet farmer?
1:52 is that superman's logo on the truck?
yep.
We need another mad max film with tom hardy. The rock could play captain mcafee from the original movie, now being held prisoner by lord humungous and his raiders
What i rly like is the fact that joe even transformed bis weaknesses to Symbols of Terror and strengh
Good biography and analysis of Immortan Joe. He’s a complex villain.
I want a Joe mini series... Just don't make him an anti hero, let's go full evil.
Yes!
Wow this was crazy, great work!
I actually assumed that Immortal Joe was the Toecutter, who survived the crash wth Mad Max and was mutilated.
And here the rest of us thought he was just some Biker gang leader from the 80's.
Or at least that's how he was depicted in Mad Max.
1:00 you're telling me this is the same guy who named his son "Rictus Erectus".
Immortan Joe for President ☝️💯❤️
Some country instead got a Senile Decaying Joe
‘You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain…’
Maybe they should make a movie about him.
the Nokia circuit board is a weird choice of trophy... Cellphones did not exist yet in the Mad Max world when it all fell.
Immortan Joe, Dementus, Auntie Entity, the Humongus - Australia has a knack for producing strong leaders.
We need Joe, the world needs him.
Trump #2024
@@user-do8zu2oy4n
Australia joe gets the job done, he gives to his people.
True we need him joe
@@user-do8zu2oy4nF no
He was perfect in everyway
Omg, my father is Joseph Moore, it all makes so much sense now 😂
it was fear of loosing the empire he created by himself, as no competent ruler could be dedicated by him.
His system was the problem, there should be a trial of rulership every 5 year and those who win can take controll. This system ensure that always the best traits go over and creates a mankind to lead.
too much competition in the hiearchy can be a problem in scenarios like this with few resources. Hereditary rulership with rasied dedicated rulers provides more stability.
To puck out the ones that might survive would be a skill..
So exactly what happens when a former Australian soldier already holds the blueprint for the high ground when the world finally does fall? And just who will that be? Inhospitable environment. Rough neighborhood...
So basically this means that Fury Road and Furiosa are earlier than the the second and third movies and Beyond Thunderdome is the last movie in the chronology
What happened to scrotus then
Do a video on Selene from the Underworld Franchise please.
God damn mate, brilliant documentary, thank you👏🏼.
One of the world's longest ad in a video that I have come across.😅
The power of media manipulation has made Joe the hero and Max the villain I’m impressed 😅
A immortal Joe movie would have been better
I want to see the movie where they go from today to the begining of fury road. Actually a trilogy would be better
How did the harpoon kill him if it was only attached to his mask? He put it on early in the film so why didn't it just come off instead of taking his jaw with it?
Interesting. Like many people in the world of Mad Max absolute power corrupted many.
I love how they never explain you Immortan Joe background story, and a simple view he looks like a basic villain obsessed with his harem of young sex slaves, but if you pay attention you see the clues that tell a deeper story, his body obviously affected by radiation the fact that a man with a harem only have 3 sons and all of them are "genetic absurdities" his desperation when Splendid die with his son a child "perfect in every way" the medals on his armor, that weird mixture of old mythology and modern world to create a cult following where the war boys think he touched the sun with his hands and give cult to cars he understands the importance of a system of belief to give legitimacy to his regime guarantee following and minimize possible rebellions, maybe a prequel about the fights of Immortan to take the citadel and found his empire would be great
What a fantastic character break-down. Since we have now seen a movie/character history of Furiosa herself, is it possible to do the same with Immortan Joe I wonder? 🤔 Or is that pushing things too far with the series... Epic series of movies either way!
Growing up is realizing that Immortan Joe wasn't the villain. Furiosa was.
based Joe, all he wanted was to get his family back together
Damn been on Madmax bible lately thanks for this
Order is oppression. Chaos is freedom.
9:54 The White "Horse-Man" of the Apocalypse
Wonder what that chip board on his chest goes to.
Do Dementus next: 💪 🗿
Rest in peace, Hugh Keays-Byrne.
Reminds me of darth malgus
If only these aussies knew about the coastal cities and left the middle of the continent.
Pretty sure the cities fell first..
The comics say that he left the city with his deserters because the electricity and water was shut off
You do good work. Good videos
Like your content! Great.
The most interesting villian since darth vader
4th? What about beyond Thunderdome?
thunderdome was third.
just pretend that move didnt exist
According the picture, he is shown with 4 stars on this shoulder tabs, but that is a uS system, not commonwealth. The equivalent rank, uS 4 start general, in Australia, is simply, general and the insignia for that rank, bears no resemblance to the pic at 1:00. Of course, this makes the image wrong on 2 counts. The rank badges themselves, and the fact that Imortan Joe was a colonel, not a general.
NOTE: In Australia, a general is overall chief of the defense force, a rank Joe clearly never attained before the fall. Had Australia survived as a functioning society, he no doubt would have attained the rank of general, either 1 star, or higher.
This was a great video
I like this video, but a feel like vomiting every time you use an AI images, like you did during the advertisement segment.
news flash, even the voice is AI.
??? I mean, its not bad art
8:15 that cod peice has 2 holstered pistols in it, now thats pretty cool little detail.
Do Dr.Dementus next u thoroughly Expounded On the Immortan Joe ,Dr.Dementus needs such a expertise of Biography under your Surpervision,Cheers
Prequel and rise
So basically the mad Max Darth Vader
How do I find the comic series?
Mad max comic full read
He's not a vilaim at all. In the world they live in how the fuck would furiosa for ecample control the whole citadel and the other 2 fortresses withouy various levels of violence ?
Indeed, its the same with Negan from TWD
I strongly believe that his portration was inspired from LIBRARIANS from Warhammer 40k
Hey Joe🎶...
I thought the discussion was about the morality of joe's exisistential existance.
Wasn't gas town in the first one? Or one of the others with Mel Gibson?
It doesnt make any Sense that Joe would have to force Women, they would throw them selfes willingly at him for the luxury Lifestyle he provides.
The next movie should be how it all started
Dwindling resources and nuclear war to sum it up
Not sure why possible are insane and believe in stuff like Valhalla or worshiping a literal car engine but that's the gist of it
But I'm pretty sure the first mad max movie already touched on this, it's basically set during a time when the world is just about to fall but not quite yet
A movie on the actual fall of the world would be amazing
Hughmugess is Joe? Imagine if madmax son survived?
Slow down the video at 0.25x and mute video. Feels like reading a comic book.
Never seen the series because it just seems too silly…but Dementus? Scrotus? Erectus? 😂😅I’ve got so many questions, starting with why?
One question why didn’t he evacuate with what left of his man and military high command and the rest of the military or what left of them evacuate to New Zealand or Tasmania and i see no reason to turn him into a bad guy he could rebuild and save the world with what left of military command?
There was no high command
@@anomalocaris7436 you got a far point there but he still he could have pulled out and evacuated with his man
Might no longer have been possible, air and sea travel were probably gone, high command had likely run off to some bunker or sanctuary and ordered units to hold their positions where they either deserted or got wiped out. Looks like when Joe finally abandoned Sydney they were on bikes, probably because they didn't have enough fuel to run their heavy equipment much less ships or planes.
@@lordfrostwind3151 far point of the heavy equipment but i don’t think the ocean is gone It just sounds to stupid and he could have tried to save Sydney or go to the high command bunker or sanctuary to figure out a plan to save the world instead of coming a bad guy for no reason
Joe's charisma 100%🤷🏻♀️🤣🤣🤣
Using pictures generated by a neural network on an equal basis with drawings by real artists is an activity for lazy and attention-grabbing content makers. What a disgrace
How long did the citadel last with the new leadership? Anywhere we can find that info?
Was this written by an AI?
Apparently he de aged after his army career lol. Makes no sense
So far from the original concept
Crazy max killed these guys
this is a immortan joe propaganda piece. nice try
Why do you exist? Nice try
Hugs