Presumed Innocent - Rikers Island House of Detention for Men NYC
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
- A look at pretrial detention at the House of Detention for Men on Rikers Island NYC. Interviews with inmates, correction officers, judges and criminal justice officials as well as conditions at the jail. Produced in 1979
Imagine not having any official ruling on your case. Imagine sitting their for 3 years before you even see a judge..
Expose The System
Still happens til this day… the worst part about our “legal” system is if you’re charged with a BS misdemeanor that you didn’t do, they offer you a plea for probation or a continuation without a finding, most people take that because you can’t afford an attorney and if you take it to trial the jury can find you guilty and you’re doing crazy jail time especially if you have a criminal history. If you do have a criminal history and really didn’t do what they are charging you with, you’re automatically guilty in everyone’s eyes until you can prove without a doubt that you didn’t do it
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@@vladimirputinforUSA You see how these MF CO's treat humans in a cage then none of them should ever be allowed to have dogs or children and I doubt if there is a heaven , Judges , prosecutors , cops , lawyers are probably most all going to where it's hotter than anything one can imagine for many of them anyways . Hell cops are the biggest crime syndicate in America now , the blue line swine mafia
It's crazy that even though these guys are from the streets and are locked up they speak well and know how to communicate what they're think ..today most street dudes can't hold a conversation or Express themselves to save their own life ...
wayofthegun they not from the streets dumbass just cause they're black and have little money doesn't mean they're from the streets or are gang banging
wayofthegun education system was better then also
You must not know many people from the so called "urban" areas...folks I know speak very clearly and articulate...thats how they run "game"...not sure who you are talking about...maybe the youth
most guys I've been locked up with are very intelligent. they just choose the wrong paths in life
Most of them was working men taken in delibritly!!! Destroying families and funding the city.
$5,000 was a lot of money back then it's a lot of money now so could you imagine these guys trying to get $5,000 back then that's like saying that your bill was 10000 it's impossible for them to have got that money so they copped out took a plea deal this is how the system is set up they going to make money off of you regardless
So true,
To the young ones Out there, Please, Try Anyway you can, to Avoid Jail,
God Bless the Child
So true
People was actually much more respectful and spoke properly in the 70's Dam was still a mess nothing's changed but more human beings Dam
no ppl got whopped back then, now times have changed, and now the criminal is the head dude in charge, cops gotta kiss their butts if they want their families to eat and collect retirement!
58:31. That lady was telling the truth. Thats exactly why they take the family's of the inmates through so much inconvenience. They try to discourage them from koming see them. Its mental they try to destroy the family relationship.
Weirdo Karen , that’s when the video Ends its last seconds. Trying to make people go to the end Because you don’t like it and are racist is very messed up. If it’s separate you shouldn’t care. Reallly poor to try and make people end the video with that time stamp.
@@Bando-fx4mfsomeone actually thought you were being serious.
I cannot believe how relevant this still is today after learning of Kalief Browder’s heartbreaking story! This video is sadly an earlier version of Kalief’s experiences of modern day Rikers Island. This documentary identified the problems back then, 60’s/ early 70’s?? So how has this been allowed to continue into the 2018??!
Because its supposed to continue. Its by design. Welfare is slavery. Bringing people up and telling them that govt is the answer--Clintons and Obama--and this is what you get. The govt needs a permanent underclass. Make a person dependent on the govt and they are owned. All by design. People in govt live in castles while the people they are "helping" with handouts and social programs are living in squalor. People need to realize that THEY are the answer... NOT the scumbags in govt.
J E my nephew did time wit him in rikers n he had a knickname but I forgot it but it basically meant he was a troublemaker..he used to start trouble so he can be moved ...he was in the streets really doing stickups too
Not to mention Korea wise situation, same thing
Jail is one big bizz so is court
5:06 when shake downs where invented 💀😂😭🤯, they didn’t even have a name them. Officer 👮♀️, called it like 5 diff names in that bit of dialogue, he said “spot searches” “keep on toes search”. Wild times. Hope everyone in the video is safe today.
It's 2023 and it's STILL like that.. This world is crazy.. Tisk tisk.
not in new york or california and look at the mess they have going on with the revolving door of stupidity
i have respect for any person who did time at rikers
Thank you I kept myself out of trouble and ended up becoming a night watch suicide aid I did a year and half in rikers before they sentenced me to that and got paroled out of greene
Very interesting and shocking piece of documentary.
Very important.
This seems like a propaganda piece to highlight the humane ways that Riker's employees treated inmates. The opening roll call scene in which someone/whomever--he-was, addresses CO's before a shift and expresses sympathy for the recent suicide was false & fake. That was pure performance for the cameras. I doubt much has changed.
Nothing has changed only got worse, my man.
Pulled this up to what it looked like around the time sid vicious was there.
I think he got gang raped in a gp cell block, before going to a hospital block were he was gang raped again.
Back in the 70's Rykers Island was a hellhole.
How different the times, typewriters, finger ink....
Different? I was on Rikers Island in 2015 and they were still using ink!
Crazycraigy not much has changed.
That notorious jail is finally being closed down. I remember the kid Kalief Browder accused of stealing a backpack was sent there at the age of 16 for 3 years while being held in solitary confinement for 2 years. He was never convicted of any type of crime during his stay. But he was beaten by inmates as well as guards and even attempted suicide more than once while incarcerated. He killed himself at the age of 22 never able to get over that injustice. And there are many more tragic stories from that hell hole called Rikers Island...
LongLiveBrowder
closing it down won't change things except cost more money. the court system needs to be reformed - rikers shouldn't close. Kalief shouldn't have been there so long because he should have had a speedy trial. wasting tax paying money by building 5 new jails spread out all around the city won't fix that.
Closing it down won't be a good thing... unless you're a developer. It will cost Billions to build/expand 5 new jails. Like all major NYC construction projects it will be a closed bid club, and will almost surely go overschedule AND overbudget (by design). Furthermore, a scumbag developer will get the land on Rikers Island for pennies on the dollar, get a shitload of unnecessary tax breaks, and build a bunch of high rise condos and a luxury resort... the new facilities will be just as wild... there will just be less inamtes at each one. They can spend a hell of a lot less money AND have a more effective solution by renovating the existing facilities and spend more money on training and programs for the inmates AND staff... but politicians aren't interested (most of em anyway) in fixing a problem if it doesn't involve making the donors and special interest groups that got them elected wealthier than they already are.
No it's not closing that's bullshit.
This Jail is currently open 2022.
Godbless the Unjustly Imprisoned..
If innocent ,then why the detention. Their treated unfairly before trial. That is so wrong. Our money goes to the state for these people being locked up. That is also unfair.
Exactly.
I have a feeling this was sugar coated and not telling the whole story.
This is an excellent post. This was my first training facility C71.
1979 Population 2000.
2018 population 10,000.
“Last night we had a suicide” aka last night we choked an inmate to death
It's a big business...inmates = profits. US Prison Industrial Complex where citizens are targeted as a commodity for profits. Prophets or profits?
1979 crime rates were incredibly high in NYC but they had only 2k people in jail. In 2019 crime rates are at historic lows but there’s more people in jail.
What do you prefer, 1979 NYC that was a war zone or 2019 NYC which is safe even in the projects
@@AndrewHorezga www.globalresearch.ca/the-prison-industry-in-the-united-states-big-business-or-a-new-form-of-slavery/8289 At least 37 states have legalized the contracting of prison labor by private corporations that mount their operations inside state prisons. The list of such companies contains the cream of U.S. corporate society: IBM, Boeing, Motorola, Microsoft, AT&T, Wireless, Texas Instrument, Dell, Compaq, Honeywell, Hewlett-Packard, Nortel, Lucent Technologies, 3Com, Intel, Northern Telecom, TWA, Nordstrom’s, Revlon, Macy’s, Pierre Cardin, Target Stores, and many more. All of these businesses are excited about the economic boom generation by prison labor. Just between 1980 and 1994, profits went up from $392 million to $1.31 billion. Inmates in state penitentiaries generally receive the minimum wage for their work, but not all; in Colorado, they get about $2 per hour, well under the minimum.
And in privately-run prisons, they receive as little as 17 cents per hour for a maximum of six hours a day, the equivalent of $20 per month. The highest-paying private prison is CCA in Tennessee, where prisoners receive 50 cents per hour for what they call “highly skilled positions.” At those rates, it is no surprise that inmates find the pay in federal prisons to be very generous. There, they can earn $1.25 an hour and work eight hours a day, and sometimes overtime. They can send home $200-$300 per month.
Thanks to prison labor, the United States is once again an attractive location for investment in work that was designed for Third World labor markets. A company that operated a maquiladora (assembly plant in Mexico near the border) closed down its operations there and relocated to San Quentin State Prison in California. In Texas, a factory fired its 150 workers and contracted the services of prisoner-workers from the private Lockhart Texas prison, where circuit boards are assembled for companies like IBM and Compaq.
Your numbers are off. That 2000 was not for the entire island.
@@mrniceguy7168 you are correct... though it was more than 2000 on the whole island.
Ive been to prison 4 times about 16 years all together n when the guy said u can do crime but dt get caught that couldn't have been said any better 👍
When he said marco i was waiting for someone to say polo😂
Most of those people are less criminals than politicians, judges, or cops.
Poverty is a bitch.
Soo sad , I hope today that the entire staff in the correctional system are wearing body cameras so the world could see how these staff members are treating the inmates
At 9:36 one of the prisoners gets something from his shoe and hides it in his mouth.
Damn, good eye! Dude acted so sketchy when they asked em to open his mouth too, I'm surprised they couldn't tell something was up then and there w/ how sketchy that went.
They all look and sound a lot older and more mature than their modern day counterparts
I have respect for anyone who did time and paid for their crimes. It's very hard sometimes to get thru life. People make decisions that they normally wouldn't. Sometimes the fact that you can't help the people you love is overwhelming.
I have more respect for prime that aren’t criminals
Most of those people are less criminals than politicians, judges, or cops.
Probably the wrist jail in America...if u did time there & survived I salute u
All inmates back then was black and Spanish crazy history
11:20 The dems dream comes true. Welfare is slavery. Make everyone helpless and dependent and you own them. keep those govt handouts going baby. Its sure to "help".
No! You have it all wrong! The Dems are THE political power holders who CARE about these people! The problem is the Democrats are being blocked from instituting more of these policies of welfare and government handouts, by the EVIL, RACIST, WHITEY. If only they could just give them more food stamps, place even higher incentives for women to have children out of wedlock/single mother families, more food stamp, more Section 8 housing, and more welfare, oh and MOST importantly, all White people get rid of, then EVERYTHING would be fixed. There would be no more problems, and everything would be all perfect.
The scary part is that is how so many of these people unironically think. It's only a matter of time before things come to a breaking point. It will happen sooner than later; mark my words.
H.d.m....fam real shit .yo.factz....P3LEE.B.X.PITO .brook.ave. you become a man that I was young kid when I was your age. Young and I became a f****** man facts real quick real quick
still the same problems today
My Little League Filed was up the street from Rikers entrance. Used to walk to the ball field and would see those Green Busses transporting to Rikers. Occasionally the guys would whistle at my mother…..this is in the mid 70’s.
The black gentleman in the thumbnail of this video, is he the same fellow from the Vietnam vets documentary?
That's when Rikers Island was real it wasn't no joke there early 70's in the 80's it was very dangerous there
Vinny Ricks still dangerous
Still a nightmare in 2017 i did a few weeks
Vinny Ricks and early 90s also that's why hdm is closed down
90s was the worst bloods n Latin kings war
Today is the same it's always been!!! Trust me I know!!!
I wonder where these cats are today
I'm sure everyone in this video are likely in there 80s or 90s by now or have passed away
In the System thee actors change but the role stays the same... Because the more things change the more things stay the same.. Try and stay free..
this was filmed way back when, I'm thinking maybe 1979, 1980
Where Are All The White Women At!
79
Read the description 79
It took avout 40 yrs after this video was filmed for BAIL REFORM! ✊️
What an evil system, the poor man has no chance.
@21:25 That officer’s voice sounds a lot like Morgan Freeman to me. Anyone else?
100%
No he doesn’t
R.I.P.
Judge "Cut 'em Loose" Bruce Wright
Rock On!!!
Jesus, I was in this building in the late eighty's early ninetys, HDM is haunted from all the souls that got took from men who we're waiting to go to court.
Don't break the law. BUT, I agree the court systems are fudged. Especially for child support and drug charges
Lmao dude you sound stupid. How in the same breath can you consciously say the dumb shit you just said
PREEMOiv great job backing up your response. How does stating facts sound stupid. Take a sec and read both statements and let me know which one really sounds immature and stupid.
Shut tfu, whatever happen to innocent until proven guilty. The police, judges, and the crooked court systems are the ones breaking the law.
I was in the queens house of detention back in 1991, what was nice is phone calls was free, I believe in rikers it was free also probably all of the detention centers it was free, well they have all closed
so if you get busted in any of the 5 boroughs you go to rikers, Bloomberg closed them all to save money.
The boat in Hunts Point too.
Staten Island heads got shipped to Brooklyn house
Yeah one free local and out of state use to trade my local for out of state calls 1993 18 yrs old c74. Karl Kani Jean shorts with the metal plate. If you know you know.
The woman at 39:57 has a crazy 1970’s accent. Wild how accents just fade in and out of style like that. Respectfully, she’s really pretty.
A guy steals $50 gets sent to Rikers
A guy steals $50 million gets sent to Club Fed,how does that work???
Never again fuck that I learned my lesson
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This is inhumane. Makes these people worse and then they let them out.
what a disrespectful way they shaking them down like that...
I know! Just chucking their stuff on the floor in the block. How could they do that? Does that still happen?
Once you're in jail you live by the jail code no snitching mind your business always have your your eyes open when you're walking on the gallery no looking into people's cells unless they call you always have your flat head on you or fiberglass keep your gard up and remember don't drop the soap😱
anybody with experience knows its more sniches in jail than in the streets, move along
Don't complain if you did the crime. You reap what you sow.
You’ll be behind bars soon enough
Research the history of Mr. Riker who founded this place.. it's absolutely disgusting
HDM might have been hell on Earth
Damn they been violating since back in the 60's and 70s. You know this video is old as shit. Jail was worst then though.
What a nightmare
Back In The 70s 80s Everybody Were Fiends. Smh
All custies back then
The voice sounds like Geraldo Rivera interviewing
Not a cell phone in sight! Just people living life to the fullest with absolute zero worries or problems. I was born in the wrong decade, life was so easy back here
Some of the CO's bigger criminals than any of the inmates
minute 24;14 homie snitching hard, keep it on the hush. Dont blow it up
How about not getting arrested. What about people with no money having to replace there stolen goods.
Is Rikers island a black place to live without any white people. Can I go?
Just becauses people's are streets people's don't mean theye are stupid theye smart talented and humans but just had too struggle harder then some stop judging others until you walk in their shoes
Back in this era the third tier was closed cause dudes would throw other dudes of the tier , also alot of hangings from that tier. They closed the third tier in middle to late eightys.
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The more things change, the more they stay the same 🤢
Who Is The Head Muckety - Muck
17:25… that wig is outrageous
Lived in NYC my hole life was in the HDM I 1977- 1978- 1979. HDM house of detention for men oh yes baby.
No one here even mentions the victims.
Most crimes were victimless.
5:06 when shake downs where invented 💀😂😭🤯, they didn’t even have a name them. Officer 👮♀️, called it like 5 diff names in that bit of dialogue, he said “spot searches” “keep on toes search”. Wild times. Hope everyone in the video is safe today.
Nothing Changed on Rikers Island
Shit is sickening shit brings me right back their....
Thought that was Eddie Murphy in the thumbnail
Man i agree i been there inhumane
Well American history proved most black men was Innocent while incarcerated and thats a fact.
Been in there.
This must been in the late 70s 80s
Mugshot said 78
Dude at 23:00 snitched 🤭🤦🏽♂️
It takes one to know one
Wow! 1979! I had no idea they made this! Must be PBS - WNYC or WNET. (Ha! I was right!)
21:25 officer sounds like Morgan freeman
I’m a British Pakistani and I was locked up on rikers island back when n 1993
10:04 I didn’t think you could show stuff like that on CZcams?
Me- ffwds to 10:04
Grow up...
Man, This documentary brings back memories. I worked HDM as a C.O for a year (75-76). Ran the shit out of 5 block. Was in a constant state of what i called 'subdued rage" though. 300 foot cell blocks. There were two sides A & B. Each with 120 cells. There were also no bathrooms for the officers. Doubling up, we usually ran a block census of 300-400. No radios ,mace, nightsticks. Just my supreme (25 yr old) managerial skills.(lol) Captains would love to come into my block because the inmates wouldn't harass the shit out of them. NYC was a real shit hole in those days. One million people on welfare, burned out neighborhoods that resembled Berlin in 1945, and a city more broke than the Octomom. I remember( Dep) Lenihan. Tough and fair. One time when i was first assigned there the inmates (think it was 6 block. were refusing to lock in over some B.S This was a regular occurrence in late 05' due to the recent riot. He came into the block and heard them out. Then basically told them to lock the fuck in or else. They did. I also remember the Captain who wore his hat at a rakish angle. We used to call him Hollywood. He was Dep Baines (RIP) right hand man.
Great to hear from you and get a real insight to the situation at that time. Many people have no idea. Certainly remember Hollywood. A real character and we had to deal with him everyday we were out there. Take care
LouSabater you should write a book about your experience.
what building is this with floors of cells?
danny Dell hdm the whole doc is on 1 building
Jesus Christ you must’ve seen some real SH*T in those days!!! Why’d you quit?
HDM ! GLADIATOR SCHOOL !
Who Is The Head Muckety-Muck
Hay Black Watch Your Back!
Coxsackie is known as 'Gladiator School' b/c there used to be a ton of young dudes there,IDK how it is now.
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jesus look how thin everybody was back then!
Ah, Cut em loose Bruce ( Judge Bruce Wright).
They are not searching very well man
Who Is The Head Muckety -Muck
Word Up Cherry Coke
Look like Judge Bruce Wright.
DC has to be the worst job ever.
P3LEE.B.X.PITO brook Ave.red eyes
Cru....k.a.r.fam...1418.....
Damn that d.a. had the I'll jew-fro
Yo mod 4 what's brackin
Everything they planned has workedthe music industry and jails are nothing but a huge profit
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LION Oh Boi.
You gotta have crime dog in your dna to do that job … Time to go to work and bother people 😵💫
Turn em loose Bruce Wright !! Rip
I had an open case and came down from upstate. They housed me in obcc. I was there while I was fighting my case. This time I had max class due to being sentenced. They put me in the worst house with the most gangs. I got along fine but we would be locked down 7 days straight
This broght me back to my two urs i did in hdm until i went to war with the Latin kings in HDM 8 block in September 22 1994 at 9 am was the last time i was in the building HDM was only the strong survived dead serious if you were weak in anyway you did not want to go to hdm cause you would lose 💯 polo the billy aka frank Luciano 1992-1994 i was in hdm 1a bing to 5 block bing 2 block a side to 4 block 7 block aside and then to 8 block where i got hit up and had my war with the kings alone the only spanish blood at the time in a block full of kings and netas polo the billy aka frank Luciano
25:00 the C O resembles a Puerto Rican Nicky Barnes