My husband made sure that he follows the process. He sent the letter to my family without my knowledge behind my back because he wanted to have a surprise engagement party for me on my birthday, so I was engaged on a Sunday which was my birthday and a week later the delegates came to negotiate the process.
But some things she said don't apply to all cultures so be mindful when listening they are correct but does not apply to all cultures Some of the things mentioned here we as Xhosa people don't apply them
Mkhulu you are a rare stone and the host is an excellent driver of the conversation. I wish every person who listens to this can commit themselves in preserving ubuntu bethu.
This episode has helped me a lot preparing for my first ever Lobola negotiations, everything I needed to know I found here. You guys are doing a massive contribution to educaring the morden African people. We appreciate it 🙏
Never watched one person this much… never have I paused or skipped any part. Infact I rewatch all her videos. And bra Dave’s ability to keep conversations flowing so organically!! Yoh big up Bra Dave
I recently paid Lobola for my love but it put a strain on our relationship. We provisionally agreed on our brideprice range and her family that are unknown to me tripled the amount. The agreed range was 40 - 50k. Relationship context: Together for 5 years, 1 daughter of 3. Damages paid in line with tradition. Both qualified professionals but I'm already a multiple property owner, had recently bought a vehicle for my woman and she takes care of me whenever possible. I honour the privilege of being able to take care of her more. We are best friends but families nearly broke us apart. We are steadily recovering at this stage. I am a proud African man but at some stage I considered not going through with the process. These processes can be abused by families or even used to sabotage something great. It is discouraging.
I understand, me and my husband have been through this and we nearly broke up. Both families were not getting the fact that they are both tearing us apart. After lobola we called them and explained what they are doing and if they didn't want us to be together they must tell us so that we know what we do and stop the drama. Since then we are both happy and have been married for 4 years now.
It is very important to send abakhongi who can stand their ground when negotiating because once you face the problem you're mentioning it means they failed you.But indeed there are families who're very greedy nowadays.
I thank my wife for introducing me Radio2000 and by God's grace i got to know about THE KING. Since then my life is getting better im learning alot about our culture. Hola KING 🎉❤🎉
Yoh! Khelha Manjoro is a blessing, shame. I've learned sooooooooo much about myself, my family and how I need to do things just by listening to 3 of her interviews. Absolutely brilliant! Also, the questions that David asks are top tier! Love how simple you guys make this!
The lighting, camera and studio set up. Wow what an investment. The conversation fruitful and I love how both party's portray the story, makes it easy to understand and grab most important lessons. Thanks again King David
There's a layer of coherency that is being left out. This exchange idealises the parents / guardians, as though these people are not themselves falible humans who are either not respected by their children (for their own reasons) or worse, they are dubious themselves. So why can't the conversation be held within the context of modern problems? This idealism of what isn't our collective reality does not help us, because our lives are not the model of this idealised past (a past which is itself viewed with rosecoloured glasses).
We need a Khehla Manjoro channel....oohw such a gem ❤ thanks KingDavid for bringing her to us we really need such conversations we sure were lost kancane kancane we getting back on track 😊 🇸🇿
Her energy,the way she talks. I could go on and on. Thank you so much. Very informative for some of us who come from families who no longer practice culture. May God and your ancestors continue to bless you.
Conversations with Khehla Manjoro, so so humbling. This woman is erudite, in the African Spirituality, I mean our Wikipedia of "Isintu." That's a true healer, she is called indeed. Thank mkhulu, needed to hear this. 🙏🙏😊
This days lobola gets complicated from price we are treated as commodities, families treating us as slaves and elders taking sides in solving problems. It's really complicated
What a blessing Khehla Manjoro is, I have learned so so much from ALL episodes. Hands down, thank you King David for continuously bringing her to enhance our knowledge and way of thinking and doing.
This was indeed an eye opener, I am proud of myself for making sure that my Lobola Negotiations went well even though I don't have parents, But Ramogolo and Bo Malome, plaid a very important part in my ceremony. I pat myself in the back, one always needs to know who handles your lobola negotiations especially for a girl.
South African law makers did not really research or proper consult the traditional leaders on how indlu emnyama does umshado. The lady uyicacisa kahle🙌
I never really knew much about this subjects (culture & tradition ). I'm very thankful to you Ntate Mashabela and the masterclass Khehla Manjoro serves us everytime she's here💯 Keleboga gommenagane🙏🕯
The day we stop doing for people than ourselves our lives will start making sense eish sithanda ukulandela izinto esingazazi futhi ezingazidingi because we want to be relevant kunokwenza okuqondile.
This topic is complicated and thank you to your guest for untangling this subject. Thank you Kehla🙏🏽 May we also thank mothers who raised respectful sons.
I always feel so blessed that she chooses to share her wealth of knowledge with us. Amongst other things, it is her kind heart that will take her places. ❤️
In the olden days it was known how much is the lobola based on 1. She is still a virgin 2. She doesn't have children 3. She has one child. All these where known factors that determines the price or cows Now the issue of who gets presents, in the olden days it sed to recognise 5 people only who were important as 1. Father 2. Mother 3. Aunt 4. Uncle 5. Gogo.These were only people matters in getting present on lobola.
Aunt and Uncle from both sides of the family or only dad's family? Also, is it all the aunts and uncles or the eldest. And which Gogo, from mother's side or paternal side. Please school us.
Currently going through separation with the wife .. whatever Khehla said our people shouldn't do.. we did most of them. This is the professional help I needed - not the English one😂. Thank you so much Khehla. If you can Bra Dav.. you should ask her how do we fix all the wrongs that our parents did in the past, eg: my parents did not get married correctly but I was conceived before marriage and I am now using my dad's surname... how do we correct such things.. especially when our parents are alive but have no interest whatsoever in correcting these kind of things. Can we correct them ourselves? Thank you once again. Much Love!
Have Pt1, pt2 and this (Pt3) saved... Too much needs to be learned and understood. Always a beautiful conversation with Khela Manjoro and Bra David. Thank You🔥👏🙌
let us be honest Mkhulu Manjoro is the only one currently in one of these podcasts whos explaining n dishing out important knowledge that most Gogos and Mkhulus fail to explain clearly and shout out to David for asking very important questions we needed this info
Free éducation that u give us WOW, tomorrow we are the one's who will be chosen to go negotiate the small information that we get everyday it's really important to us so that we can do the ryt thing that will help us grow even spiritually.
Respectfully, watching this I lost count of marriages I know of which were doomed from very the beginning from just fumbling this process and I sympathize with them. I learned so much from this episode!
This was insight and very educative to us Africans and one wish such treasure be recorded(Books) and we keep on seek connection with our roots while we live in this busy life.
I didn't know of Khehla manjoro since yesterday,,,so I simply went on a hunting spree for all her interviews and my heart is full... Siyabonga Khela for your enlightenment Rea leboga ntate Mashabela for the way you engage and navigate the conversation 🙏
Thanks mkhulu manjoro about your podcast it is more educational to all African people people in both side groom and bride family you are making the lobola more easy keep it up
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ ohhhhhh your spoiling us bra D, I love Gogo very much re mo kopa every 2nd week. The wisdom she's impacted with is what we need. Thank you very much
Very important conversation🙌🙏 its through such that we are introducing ourselves to ourselves as Africans, in terms of our customs.Because lobola is an extremely important cultural institution of African cosmic genesis that traces its origins to the convergence of the Aggrarian (matrilineal) society and the Pastoralist (patriarchal) society. Even though is not fully acknowledged by ukhehla Manjoro, women play a very critical role in all these lobola negotiations. The source of power yabo-Malome is women (bo-Rakhadi and bo-Mmangoane) after all for example - whenever there's a deadlock in these negotiations, the other party (yabo-Mkhwenyana) would ask to be excused for a brief moment. And all that they are going to do is to call the WOMEN😂 back home that we have a deadlock, and how do we proceed from here and WOMEN will then give the instructions and they would go back to proceed with them. The puppet master is always the women. But most important lobola comes from the Arranged Marriage System, and that was primarily to build strong family structures, something that is non-existent today.
Just went through this process on behalf of my younger brother (yes he's now married before me😅)... and I was Mubati weHomwe (the holder of the bride price) during the process. I had no prior practice...but it went well. I am finding a lot of similarities in the process as described, but also some nuanced differences. Like in Zim we did not have to knock at the gate (but we had to wait until the aunt came out to ''tell us she would be back to allow us into the yard... when they were right and ready''). There's also no hiding the Makoti (I like that personally...wish my culture did that. it heightens the ceremony) 😅🤣
Lol this interview got me thinking I need to get married soon yaz, that's the effect Khehla has on me, how she articulates everything man is just too tier, ngathi she can be part of my lobola negotiations hey lol. anyway great show guys. thank you for the nuggets of wisdom.
If you would like to contact Khehla Manjoro:
073 680 4444
I love this woman bakith can she never leave your channel.She shines so bright .God bless her .
I agree totally with you, she can do something once a month we are learning
True
Me too she is having a wisdom
My husband made sure that he follows the process. He sent the letter to my family without my knowledge behind my back because he wanted to have a surprise engagement party for me on my birthday, so I was engaged on a Sunday which was my birthday and a week later the delegates came to negotiate the process.
After listening to Mkhulu Majoro, you realize how lost the majority of us are😢
But some things she said don't apply to all cultures so be mindful when listening they are correct but does not apply to all cultures
Some of the things mentioned here we as Xhosa people don't apply them
Dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@phelokazimtshazi9088 Very true. This is mostly in nguni culture. Zukus xhosas etc.
Yey. I sent this to my mom
Mkhulu you are a rare stone and the host is an excellent driver of the conversation. I wish every person who listens to this can commit themselves in preserving ubuntu bethu.
This episode has helped me a lot preparing for my first ever Lobola negotiations, everything I needed to know I found here. You guys are doing a massive contribution to educaring the morden African people. We appreciate it 🙏
She is a gift and we need people like her who can relate Christianity to our traditions big up bra Dave
Sent it to my mom
Never watched one person this much… never have I paused or skipped any part. Infact I rewatch all her videos. And bra Dave’s ability to keep conversations flowing so organically!! Yoh big up Bra Dave
Bro i have rewatched her videos so many times and every time i m excited
i was even rewinding and pausing lol
I recently paid Lobola for my love but it put a strain on our relationship.
We provisionally agreed on our brideprice range and her family that are unknown to me tripled the amount. The agreed range was 40 - 50k. Relationship context: Together for 5 years, 1 daughter of 3. Damages paid in line with tradition. Both qualified professionals but I'm already a multiple property owner, had recently bought a vehicle for my woman and she takes care of me whenever possible. I honour the privilege of being able to take care of her more. We are best friends but families nearly broke us apart. We are steadily recovering at this stage. I am a proud African man but at some stage I considered not going through with the process. These processes can be abused by families or even used to sabotage something great. It is discouraging.
I understand, me and my husband have been through this and we nearly broke up. Both families were not getting the fact that they are both tearing us apart. After lobola we called them and explained what they are doing and if they didn't want us to be together they must tell us so that we know what we do and stop the drama. Since then we are both happy and have been married for 4 years now.
It is very important to send abakhongi who can stand their ground when negotiating because once you face the problem you're mentioning it means they failed you.But indeed there are families who're very greedy nowadays.
Modimo a ne le lona kona o fele. ❤🎉 Love how you understand the importance of your partner
Your woman must convice them I convince my family
Phala mfo...address the issue to the elders. Kuzoqonda, other families are just there to ruin their own members' bliss.
I thank my wife for introducing me Radio2000 and by God's grace i got to know about THE KING. Since then my life is getting better im learning alot about our culture. Hola KING 🎉❤🎉
From Mkhulu Manjoro I've learned that everything in our lives must be spiritually protected.
No loadshedding formed against me shall prosper.
I can not afford to miss this episode.
Especially if it's Khehle Manjoro❤
😂😂❤❤❤😊😊
Thank you King David for blessing us with khehla Manjoro again and again and again and we won't get tired of her
Khehla Manjoro should visit the podcast every month, there's so much education here🙌🏾
Yeah, that'd be nice. ☺️
Residency! Would be great
Yoh! Khelha Manjoro is a blessing, shame. I've learned sooooooooo much about myself, my family and how I need to do things just by listening to 3 of her interviews. Absolutely brilliant! Also, the questions that David asks are top tier! Love how simple you guys make this!
The lighting, camera and studio set up. Wow what an investment. The conversation fruitful and I love how both party's portray the story, makes it easy to understand and grab most important lessons. Thanks again King David
She's such a blessing to Africans and very down to earth. You're really appreciated khehla❤❤
There's a layer of coherency that is being left out. This exchange idealises the parents / guardians, as though these people are not themselves falible humans who are either not respected by their children (for their own reasons) or worse, they are dubious themselves. So why can't the conversation be held within the context of modern problems? This idealism of what isn't our collective reality does not help us, because our lives are not the model of this idealised past (a past which is itself viewed with rosecoloured glasses).
We need a Khehla Manjoro channel....oohw such a gem ❤ thanks KingDavid for bringing her to us we really need such conversations we sure were lost kancane kancane we getting back on track 😊 🇸🇿
Hi swazi girl
Ntate Mashabela thank you for bringing Khehla Manjoro back I like how she explain everything our Sabrina ❤️💖
Her energy,the way she talks. I could go on and on. Thank you so much. Very informative for some of us who come from families who no longer practice culture. May God and your ancestors continue to bless you.
Conversations with Khehla Manjoro, so so humbling. This woman is erudite, in the African Spirituality, I mean our Wikipedia of "Isintu." That's a true healer, she is called indeed. Thank mkhulu, needed to hear this. 🙏🙏😊
Mkhulu Majoro thank you, ngokucacisa kahle hle lendaba. Please invite her again for other topics, truly eye opening stuff. Siyabonga!!
Another masterclass with Mkhulu Manjoro. We are becoming more and more wise people through her knowledge
Lo mama is a national treasure, please keep her and further grow your show about roots around her, she has made me spiritually better. God is good.
This women educated us on how things should be done and the meaning behind these process.. Thank you Kehla ❤
This days lobola gets complicated from price we are treated as commodities, families treating us as slaves and elders taking sides in solving problems. It's really complicated
I have not watched anything else by King Dave but each time I see mkhulu Manjoro, I know I have to stop and listen 🤌🤌 what an amazing woman ❤
I get a sneaky feeling braDave is doing research for himself 😁
🤣 same!
Lol same 😂😊
Iam convinced of the same
He's trying to learn these things with the rest of us.
That must be the luckiest person on planet earth
What a blessing Khehla Manjoro is, I have learned so so much from ALL episodes. Hands down, thank you King David for continuously bringing her to enhance our knowledge and way of thinking and doing.
This was indeed an eye opener, I am proud of myself for making sure that my Lobola Negotiations went well even though I don't have parents, But Ramogolo and Bo Malome, plaid a very important part in my ceremony. I pat myself in the back, one always needs to know who handles your lobola negotiations especially for a girl.
South African law makers did not really research or proper consult the traditional leaders on how indlu emnyama does umshado. The lady uyicacisa kahle🙌
I never really knew much about this subjects (culture & tradition ). I'm very thankful to you Ntate Mashabela and the masterclass Khehla Manjoro serves us everytime she's here💯
Keleboga gommenagane🙏🕯
She is truly a gift. What an eye opening moment. We have been schooled ❤
Yah, I have to go an have in depth conversation with my elders about how we do this. King David, Mme Manjoro thank you.
The day we stop doing for people than ourselves our lives will start making sense eish sithanda ukulandela izinto esingazazi futhi ezingazidingi because we want to be relevant kunokwenza okuqondile.
As le2000 this is super insghtful cause I swear I have never heard some of the things mentioned by Khehla. But Im guided now. Many thanks.
I really appreciate how you conduct your interviews..such a seasoned broadcaster.
“Ntombazane uyaphapha”😂😂😂 I felt that 😂
Eish, is sad. I have seen it a lot.
This topic is complicated and thank you to your guest for untangling this subject. Thank you Kehla🙏🏽 May we also thank mothers who raised respectful sons.
I always feel so blessed that she chooses to share her wealth of knowledge with us. Amongst other things, it is her kind heart that will take her places. ❤️
This lady is a blessing. Shine on Khehla ✨ 🪔🕯️
In the olden days it was known how much is the lobola based on 1. She is still a virgin 2. She doesn't have children 3. She has one child. All these where known factors that determines the price or cows
Now the issue of who gets presents, in the olden days it sed to recognise 5 people only who were important as 1. Father 2. Mother 3. Aunt 4. Uncle 5. Gogo.These were only people matters in getting present on lobola.
Aunt and Uncle from both sides of the family or only dad's family? Also, is it all the aunts and uncles or the eldest. And which Gogo, from mother's side or paternal side. Please school us.
All thanx to Kahle manjoro we love u ❤️ , wish u can teach us more
wow, I learned a looot from this episode. I think most of us are just in the dark about such important matters.
Its 3;19 AM and bumped into this that healed my soul.
Currently going through separation with the wife .. whatever Khehla said our people shouldn't do.. we did most of them. This is the professional help I needed - not the English one😂. Thank you so much Khehla. If you can Bra Dav.. you should ask her how do we fix all the wrongs that our parents did in the past, eg: my parents did not get married correctly but I was conceived before marriage and I am now using my dad's surname... how do we correct such things.. especially when our parents are alive but have no interest whatsoever in correcting these kind of things. Can we correct them ourselves? Thank you once again. Much Love!
"umakoti akaqedwa isintu leso" ❤🙂
I can’t wait to hear this one. We need her at least once a week Abuti David
Please
I love her so much I can't wait to listen in. King David don't EVER keep the episodes short when khehla majoro is in the building
Have Pt1, pt2 and this (Pt3) saved... Too much needs to be learned and understood. Always a beautiful conversation with Khela Manjoro and Bra David. Thank You🔥👏🙌
Quiet an intriguing conversation.... The truth on another level right here
let us be honest Mkhulu Manjoro is the only one currently in one of these podcasts whos explaining n dishing out important knowledge that most Gogos and Mkhulus fail to explain clearly and shout out to David for asking very important questions we needed this info
Almost the whole argument is defeated if you don't believe in the underground people
Free éducation that u give us WOW, tomorrow we are the one's who will be chosen to go negotiate the small information that we get everyday it's really important to us so that we can do the ryt thing that will help us grow even spiritually.
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿❤️! Our culture is science and Law practiced as an Art!❤
Khehla Manjoro, words are not enough to appreciate the knowledge you are imparting. Do not get tired of sharing❤🎉
I see her face , I click and I watch.
Love this woman.. well informed about our cultures.. very wise about EVERYTHING THAT CONCERN'S A BLACK COMMUNITY...
This is the most beautiful gobela I ever seen and maybe the last and she knows her story
I love this woman wow she so amazing uyalazi usiko nesintu😊
My Favorite guest 🙏🏾❤️ mkhulu Manjoro
We really need these kind of conversations,thank you khehla Manjoro and King D.
I beam when I see Khehla Manjoro on the channel 🤍 love her, she’s too wise
Another power packed episode, thanks King David and Khehla Manjoro 👏🏾
Respectfully, watching this I lost count of marriages I know of which were doomed from very the beginning from just fumbling this process and I sympathize with them. I learned so much from this episode!
Marriages fail because of the people in the marriage and not because of processes.
King David, the time Khehla Manjoro comes can you please discuss what happens when a person is bewitched and how one can cast out those spells
This was insight and very educative to us Africans and one wish such treasure be recorded(Books) and we keep on seek connection with our roots while we live in this busy life.
I didn't know of Khehla manjoro since yesterday,,,so I simply went on a hunting spree for all her interviews and my heart is full... Siyabonga Khela for your enlightenment
Rea leboga ntate Mashabela for the way you engage and navigate the conversation 🙏
she is such a blessing ❤❤❤
Waiting very patiently for this episode❤. This is the Masterclass 🎉
She is such a beautiful gift❤
wow thank for bringing this treasure into our lifes now im gonna go back to part one to see if i missed anything
Bra Dave is asking for himself andifuni nova!🤣🔥
I'm saving this recording for my son...very educational
Thanks mkhulu manjoro about your podcast it is more educational to all African people people in both side groom and bride family you are making the lobola more easy keep it up
She is a gift indeed.. ❤
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ ohhhhhh your spoiling us bra D, I love Gogo very much re mo kopa every 2nd week. The wisdom she's impacted with is what we need. Thank you very much
I can't get enough of the knowledge that she is sharing with us she is really a gift❤
Thanks a lot King David for blessing us with beautiful Khehla Manjoro❤❤
Appreciate this episode 🙏 thank you
Very important conversation🙌🙏 its through such that we are introducing ourselves to ourselves as Africans, in terms of our customs.Because lobola is an extremely important cultural institution of African cosmic genesis that traces its origins to the convergence of the Aggrarian (matrilineal) society and the Pastoralist (patriarchal) society.
Even though is not fully acknowledged by ukhehla Manjoro, women play a very critical role in all these lobola negotiations. The source of power yabo-Malome is women (bo-Rakhadi and bo-Mmangoane) after all for example - whenever there's a deadlock in these negotiations, the other party (yabo-Mkhwenyana) would ask to be excused for a brief moment. And all that they are going to do is to call the WOMEN😂 back home that we have a deadlock, and how do we proceed from here and WOMEN will then give the instructions and they would go back to proceed with them. The puppet master is always the women.
But most important lobola comes from the Arranged Marriage System, and that was primarily to build strong family structures, something that is non-existent today.
Oh Baeo wam I love Mkhulu Manjoro ❤ she has my heart
Indeed she's a wonderful gift ❤️
It's like they are intertwine to the bones.their voices together Jo! I could listen to them to sleep and anytime.❤
Just went through this process on behalf of my younger brother (yes he's now married before me😅)... and I was Mubati weHomwe (the holder of the bride price) during the process. I had no prior practice...but it went well.
I am finding a lot of similarities in the process as described, but also some nuanced differences. Like in Zim we did not have to knock at the gate (but we had to wait until the aunt came out to ''tell us she would be back to allow us into the yard... when they were right and ready''). There's also no hiding the Makoti (I like that personally...wish my culture did that. it heightens the ceremony) 😅🤣
Congrats to your family..you all have gotten a daughter now..🤗
@@bakoena82 in our case she came with 3 sisters 💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾👰🏾♀️🤵🏾♂️
We are all one bigger family now😁
Your podcast is a gift. Thank you
I’m laughing at the hiding part because they did that at home and I didnt get the rationale behind me hiding inside a blanket 😂
You a blessing both of you
Absolutely love Mkhulu Manjoro with all my heart.
Loved it 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I truly appreciate and love her way of thinking. 😊😊😊Beautiful
'We back with another episode' . . McG is that you? 👀😅
Ka nnete we are going back to factory settings. It is about time and thank you, Khehla Kgomotso and Dave
I have learned so much, she broke it down so nicely. ❤️❤️
Lol this interview got me thinking I need to get married soon yaz, that's the effect Khehla has on me, how she articulates everything man is just too tier, ngathi she can be part of my lobola negotiations hey lol. anyway great show guys. thank you for the nuggets of wisdom.
Khehla Manjoro I can listen to her all day long I started to follow her to anywhere I see her name, this Mkhulu in her is giving.
This is very informative. Thank you!
i cant never get enough of her
Mkhulu Manjoro ❤ I can listen to her everyday. Share more videos of her please 🙏🏽.
Love how well put this is though each person need to be able to make their independent decision families are not the same
thank you for knowledge ❤👏