"Laptop Class" - Elon Musk SLAMS Work From Home As Morally Wrong!
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- čas přidán 20. 05. 2024
- You want to work from home while all these other products are being built in the office. “Does that seem morally right?” -Elon Musk
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If work at home didn’t exist , I wouldn’t have time to watch this show
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That's such a W point, holy! You have no idea of how much information, news and content I miss everyday I have to work from office. Holy, I have to do a catching up session for 2 days straight afterwards.
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Facts. I work hybrid. I just spent all morning in an office and I’ll spend the rest of my day on the couch watching CZcams. Unless an issue comes up I have to leave the house for.
And you would be twice as productive. Yeah we know.
Is it morally fair for you to work in an air conditioned office when there are construction workers and farmers outside in the rain and sun?
What a crock.
Yes it is. Ones life force and energy will be expended regardless of where the work is being preformed. Just my opinion.
👏👏. And i as a woman, working from home have more time to make my family a healthy dinner and clean the house after the work day is over.
Otherwise the extra 2 hours a day is spent in Traffic and dinner sucks and no energy left to keep the house tidy :(
I think it is immoral that Pat gets to sit in a comfy studio with AC while there are people working outside the studio sweating, getting exposed to UV radiation all day as they cut the lawn and take care of gardens that have been sprayed with pesticides and herbicides. Go do the show outside Pat!
Good argument 👍🏻
Very well said. The argument of morally wrong doesn’t hold up.
It's also immoral he makes so much money while millions of people are making minimum wage. He needs to cut his income significantly, it's immoral otherwise.
Perfect
The moral argument is so dumb. I’m pretty sure people in food service give two shits if Tesla employees have to go the office or not. Working In solidarity, please
I do not need to commute into an office to close the millions of dollars of deals that I do for my company.
A billionaire preaching about morality is quite something
He should problem be more concerned about raising his dozen different kids rather than preaching to the working class how to be better workers.
He's more believable than the homeless guy standing at the traffic light.
right they were just talking about how office real estate is down. Starts to make you think what side theyre on
And with a troll comment on the internet, you really put Musk in his place. Good job.
@@edgarbm6407 I hope he’s paying you well
I am writing this comment as I work from home. I get more done and have less distractions
I save 2 hours a day not commuting. The commute is stressful
Less distractions like you tube videos about working from home
Same here
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the two hours I spend on the road I use to work when I'm working from home. the two days I commute into work o give then 8 hrs.The days I work from home 10 hrs minimum.
These people are so disconnected to what actually happens in an office. No ones trying to commute an hour just to put your headphones in and work on excel sheets. Also the not work from home people also appreciate it as well. I promise you all those truck drivers don’t want us all one the road again commuting and taking up space on the road.
You mean you don't go around high-fiving your coworkers when they make a sale?!
If your job is that easy, the company is making a huge mistake by not already firing you.
You’re lazy, unmotivated, and undisciplined. That’s fine, just don’t complain about being a loser.
@@blairl6304 Spending half the day to do "trust falls" instead of actually working or some group activity is wasted. Ive been in some places where every week starts with a meeting only to hear the same BS day in and day out. In my head I keep thinking "I can do x of this then spend time here" So I did an experiment....stopped going, instantly my numbers went up but my boss disliked the fact I was not a "team player" even though I was outproducing my team.
You’re 100% correct!
Yep. In my office we don’t even know each-other other than our work ethic and frankly, it’s better this way. We never have any drama in our office.
The days i get to work from home i’m more productive on the job and a better mom because the 2 hours i would have spent in traffic are better spent cleaning and making a healthy dinner for my family and preparing lunches for the next day.
WFH is a life-changer. Saving thousands of dollars a year just in public transport costs alone. More time to exercise EVERY day. No crappy and expensive takeout lunches. My colleagues are my colleagues - they are NOT my friends or family. I love working in a quiet environment with fresh air, not noisy aircon. And still get more done and more efficiently. NEVER going back to an office job. Don’t care what anyone says.
Sure. Just wish WFH crybabies would STFU about not getting paid enough or working too many hours or just whining in general. I travel for work, and I do 12 hour days and stay in shitty rooms... and these absolute pathetic children are complaining about 40 hour 5 day work weeks.
I agree. No people stopping by to talk, wasting your time. I've been working from home since 1998. My whole team is remote, and some are in another country. We have metrics for quality and quantity, and meet weekly to check in. We are results driven. If it's done well and on time, I don't care if you got some extra "me" time.
I agree also but keep in mind companies are starting to out source our jobs to other countries
@@PaulV-xx3jkexactly, youre trading your job security for comfort. These companies will just outsource all the work for better bottom lines
He can suck it. I'm much more productive working from home. Saves gas. Saves time. Saves hassle.
@AnnSisuLiv You will get VERY fat eventually.
At least you admit it's for your personal gain with no regard for the work team.
@@funkspinna And people like you pretend working next to people improves productivity. Nowadays people work together all around the globe, so making them go to the office, to then go to an online meeting is redundant.
Also, unless youre old, the youth have no problem being productive, and getting to know each other via internet devices. I dont need to smell your bad breath to effectively communicate and work through text or video calls. I dont need to work next to you, or go on lunch dates to be an effective team player. I dont know you, and I dont care to know you, just do the job, and do the job well.
People work from home. People take classes at home. You dont need an office space, and a massive property fees to produce effective working teams.
The only people who dont want to work at home are, 1. Bosses who want to keep their workers in a confined space to monitor their behavior, and 2. The lazy workers who cant pretend to be working and slacking off if theyre at home w/o others to leech on.
@funkspinna There is no team. I am the team. I have a job to do. I do it effectively. Going into an office is pointless and waste time. Even if there was a team, it has never increased productivity for me. It has only ever been a time- waster. The only people who need support from a team are people who don't know what they're doing.
@@AnnSisuLiv With an attitude like that, I bet "there's no team". LOL.
Nothing wrong with working from home
Bums work from home
And slaves work for their master's, act like people, and stop Gate, keeping what is work and what isn't. "Bum"
@@howardhughes6212 Then I am a bum with a significantly higher quality of life than you.
Not directly for the business but the real estate that they were leasing is greatly impacted. Commercial real estate is having a rough time
@MdudeDoes did you learn to spell at home? Your Grammer is terrible
Its morally wrong to not try and eliminate as much commuting as possible, from both environmental and safety aspects.
Thankyou!!
So it’s mortally wrong if I think it’s silly to drive 45 minutes to work just to sit at a desk and call people over in London? Ok, go on. SMH
Any time a business person uses the morality as an argument makes me guffaw. I'm hybrid and my wife is 100% wfh as an exec and is nationally recognized for her excellence...so
@@jackbits6397 Yeah the same people talking about morals are the ones who forced this on us a few years ago. And that’s if we weren’t fired for refusing to play along. I have some choice words for anyone who wants to speak down to me about morals.
Apparently living at work is not morally wrong in his eyes 🤷🏻♂️
Hopefully everyone gives this video a nice thumbs down
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I used to care about building relationships at work... now I don't. I would rather just get my job done and spend time with my family.
@dakings1213 Animals are usually of a social kind; more advanced animals are not or so it seems that you are saying.
I build work relationships at work. They are just as shallow as they are online. I still only talk about pets, kids and the weather.
Yep and you are the majority and elites hate it
90% of conversations at work are gossiping about other employees anyway. You're not missing anything.
@@pindapoy1596 "more advanced animals are not or so it seems that you are saying."
What an astute observation. Honestly it grates my nerves whenever braindead atheists repeat this silly trope about humans being "social animals". Whoever came up with it was clearly an atheist and disturbingly insecure.
a moral issue? seriously?
Its because they have nothing else and people aren't buying the BS narratives they put out otherwise, so they are trying to play to what normal people have that they don't--morals.
Capital is mad that their fancy real estate's value is dropping like a rock.
@@sailirish7Oooof that is the real take tho 🔥
Definitely.. the butcher, Baker and candlestick makers CAN'T work from home..so you are BETTER than them? Yet YOU need them.
Thank you!!!!!!
When "work" needs to cut people in layoffs, where does the morality go? It's just business at that stage, right.
Exactly. Fun hearing one of the bosses talk about morality. I wonder if Elon has heard about the concept of unintended consequences.
@@arnoldziffel4943 "unintended consequences" mostly applies when a narrow focus is used to justify using force, e.g., coercive govt., e.g., regulating wages by law.
The guy who makes cars, wants us to drive 😂
I work from home and prefer it. The nastiness, maliciousness and vindictiveness I don't have to put up with. The office politics can really become unbearable, I work well at home and are really focused. I like being in a laptop class, we still manage to be a close team.
I work from a VAN. Van Life 😎🇺🇲
I agree with you there "The nastiness, maliciousness and vindictiveness I don't have to put up with. The office politics can really become unbearable, I work well at home and are really focused".
But unfortunately for me I cannot work from home because my partner and children are so disruptive.
I hate the The nastiness, maliciousness and vindictiveness one has to put up with at work.
Elon is right in many respects working from home can be immoral. It all depends on what way you look at it.
Don't forget the nasty fish someone microwaves or other office smells or the sick people who come in. Ugh
These guys are Elon fanboys. Nothing wrong with working from home if the work can be done from there. Saves the business money
Kiss your masters boots more! Jeez, worried about saving the company money? That's like a slave worried their masters arm might get tired from using the whip
The office is a more productive, cohesive environment. Depends on the job but with most this is true.
@financialtruthacademy9052 I am a plumber working from home and my business saves a lot of money
@@marknrogers Absolutely BS
@@marknrogers This is nonsense. People have been working or taking classes at home/online for years, even decades. I dont need to be your desk neighbor and smell your BO in order to be productive, effective, and coordinated with my team.
Working at home also saves time and costs, like gas or property fees. The real problem here is real estate values will plummet if companies stop using offices, and corporate buildings.
I find working at home is also more productive. People tend to work earlier, or later hours because they are already home. In the office, I get out at 5, period, no exceptions, I am going home. But working from home, I dont mind staying online till 6-7 to finish a job, and likewise I tend to start my day earlier because I dont have to travel into work.
Tom wants people to work at the office to give high fives. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣😂
That quote felt like it was out of Office space.
I couldnt roll my eyes hard enough but he needs to keep his boss happy lol
Peak boomer take
He's often out of touch being so much older than the rest of the panel, but that was comically stupid lol
Man I can't imagine why his YT channel does 100 views a video...😂
I surely miss the 2.5-hour commute plus gas expenses, but mostly I miss the kindergarten-level team-building activities, because, you know, "it's not a job, it's a family".
If that's the case then fire all of the offshore low cost IT works outsourced to India and replace them with US employees working in the office... at six figures each.
“Bro lockdowns were the best!”
Argeed
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You mean expensive work from home employees can easily be replaced by cheap out sourced workers in crap countries? You're not making your case.
@@edgarbm6407if the topic is about "morally wrong" then either side has an argument. US jobs vs cheaper labor. It depends on which side of the table you're sitting
Work in the office is petty, political and distracting.
I like not having to hold in my farts, or worry about how frequently I use the restroom at home. I also dont have to fake being friends, or try to make polite conversation during lunch breaks. The number of people who try to talk to me while reading a book is exhausting.
@joshuastoughton1693 nothing worse than myself as a conservative trying to "build a relationship" with a team built of Indian man right off the boat, 2 liberal men, and a 50 year old woman.
So much in common to talk about!
We left SoCal 25 years ago because my husband had a three-hour R/T commute to LA. We had three kids five and under. Now he commutes 30 minutes each way two days a week after his office went remote. I retired. I might have continued working if remote had been an option. An office full of lawyers is the worst. Psychopaths. The women in their 30s and 40s are the worst. Social Justice Warrior, Mean Girl bullies. Miserable because no man wants them. Turned my hair white.
Wow very well said!! Hehehe ❤
I believe it... all those "girl boss" types are miserable cause they're old and alone.
I laughed when you talk about unmarried women....hahaaha
The moral issue is BS. I worked my ass off to become skilled enough to where working remote was a possibility for me. The jobs are there, skill up and get after it instead of bitching about the perks of success.
I couldn't give 2 fucks about the "office culture". I care about deliverables. I'm here to perform a function for money, not hear about your weekend.
No one likes the self entitlement of work from home employees.
Spot On 💯
@@edgarbm6407except lots of thumbs up for that comment and zero for yours 😅
@@edgarbm6407 cry about it
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I hate working from home, but guys that is a stupid argument.
huh? who said 'I hate working from home'? Working from home is a dream.
@@ben-taobeneton3945 says the one whose never worked a day in their lives
@@commonrare132 Probably did, made a routine and knows stress and how to be productive. Unlike people working from homes.
it's not stupid for PBD. The elites (like PBD) don't want workers to have any rights so they can stay enslaved to the system and make them a lot of money.
"I hate working from home" You hate freedom?
I work outside in the heat everyday and I'm rooting for the work from home group. The only reason why they want to return to work is because commercial real estate will crash.
The powers broke the dam during Covid and now they can't control the flow of water.
100%. Wise counties/cities are making efforts to rezone and get these pure office parks redeveloped into mixed use which will contain housing, retail commercial, and much smaller volumes of office. Gripping onto the old ways, jamming the roads full of commuters to office parks, just so they can work in software the same as they could from home, is incredibly inefficient. It's bad for energy use and traffic, which leads to deteriorated mental health of the masses.
Unintended consequences suck.
You work outside in the heat everyday? And Pat gets to work in a building with air conditioning everyday? Sounds morally wrong to me. Pat should work outside with his laptop next to you, sweating on a bench while he works. It's only fair, according to him.
As I work from home now, I think back 5 years ago. My workplace was instituting a hybrid work model (2-3 days at home, the rest in the office) which I resisted and did not take advantage of. I enjoyed going to the office every day and seeing my coworkers. Then they decided to banish me from the office for a year and a half, along with the threat of being fired. Now they want me to come back in? And a billionaire wants to shame me? How about no. I’ll come back if I want, and I’ll find someplace else to work if that’s a problem.
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Firing 15k of his employees wasnt “morally wrong” tho ?
It would be immoral to keep people that were not needed and just leeching off the company.
He didn’t just fire people for the sake of firing people.
@@bigsteed007 RIIIIIIIIGHTTTTT …. Same people he made move from California to Texas to keep their jobs lol .. yea ok thats a evil money driven mf .. i hope tesla fails
Did they work?
@@bigsteed007would you kick one of your young children out of the home to help balance the family budget? They loved to save the workers are family, than treat them like family. Better that everyone should work a few less hours each week than layoffs 15k. This isn’t some fantasy, there actually are companies that think it is better that everyone should suffer a little than a few should be sacrificed.
@@bigsteed007 It is immmoral when he's asking for a raise of 53 billion dollars.
How many times are you guys going to revisit this topic to drive home your biased points as business owners
Businesses like work from office NOT because of productivity BUT BECAUSE OF control. That's it.
Weak and bad managers are unable to cope with the new age of technology and work environment.
This happened back in the 1970s when we got the first e-mails, computers, and early networking. Complexity went through the roof and nobody knew what the F to do. Same here.
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My man. W comment. At least one here is out of the matrix.
It is about control, and corporate budget. Managers and corporate owners like to own property and office space. It gives them control, and allows them to spend the company money as a business expense. It also allows them to bloat the budget with unnecessary expenditures, like office furniture, lunch meals, or other things to take up office space. If corporations no longer require you to work in an office, middle managers will lose their budget spending powers, and the real estate market will take a massive hit.
I think all the points or postives of coming in the office is true but the biggest reason is what you pointed out it’s all about control and watching what your employees are doing.
Spot on! One of the Sups wanted us all back in the office. Not one person I spoke to agreed. It is all about control, I could sense it and the way she kept hounding the staff to agree made her more enemies.
I work in tech. My coworkers and I have metrics that we are graded on every year. When we were working remote only, we had top of the line metrics and were essentially breaking records quarter after quarter. When we moved to a hybrid schedule last year, our metrics dropped back to what they were before the 2020 pandemic.
There are several reasons for this if you ask me. For one, it's agitating that I now have to commute 6+ hours a week. Instead of sleeping in an extra hour, I need to wake up earlier and sit in traffic to do the same job that we were all perfectly capable of doing at home. It is also significantly louder in the office and it is harder to concentrate. My boss has told me to use headphones as a remedy, but weren't we supposed to talk to each other more in person? Wasn't that the point of going in in the first place? Why go into the office for "collaboration" when I can't focus on my work and the advice I am given is to ignore everyone around me? Why bother coming in at all at that point?
Regarding the example given in the video about a bad employee entering bogus information into sales force...you can just as easily be a bad worker in the office or at home. I've seen it first hand. If anything, I think it's easier to skate by in the office because you can "look" busy while not actually providing anything substantive. Working from home did not let that employee skate by for a year, it was bad policies or bad managers. They should have noticed something was off with that employee within the first few months and taken care of the problem early. Why punish the rest of us?
Excellently put. I’m an auditor and most of us work from home cause everything is electronic now. We went from being at a client 5 days a week to maybe two or three at most. Clients love it, smaller overhead, and we get more work done at home.
You are an exception. Ordinary people aren't smart enough to do it.
Amen
Well said, most of the ppl talking about against remote jobs only worried about the real estate value of the buildings going down bc ppl not in them, they only want to support their pockets and not ppl mental….. and they work from home as well lol, that’s the crazy part
@@taecockyyou nailed it.
People in offices should work outside because it’s morally wrong that the people that built and maintain those buildings have to work outside in the scorching sun or freezing cold weather, rain etc..
exactly
Exactly!
That's moronic as f ... congrats.
Elon must have commercial real estate that is tanking in value.
You already know 😂
Office work is more expensive and creates unnecessary overhead and maintenance but supports local businesses in the business districts. WFH does not. Theres no reason to have that overhead as a business if your workers are just keying in data on a computer all day. People don't type any faster in an office than they do at home and productivity goals don't change.
Actually, in my workplace, productivity went up with WFH.
@@rebchizelbeak5392 depending what you do
@duketogo2616 Sure, for people that do not care for anything else but operating a computer all day long because they are not capable to do anything more intelligent, any place is a good place
@@pindapoy1596 You know the AI engineers building the future are some of the smartest people in the world at the highest echelons of the intelligence scale and all their work takes place on a computer, right?
@@duketogo2616 Not exactly. There are a lot of objections to AI in all walks of life precisely because it dehumanizes intelligence and social interfaces
People have repeatedly expressed FEAR that AI will become a police agent, a spy in your private life, a creator of unemployment and a substitute to human relationships.
What you see happening is extreme computer power achieving spectacular results where useful (and there are many areas of
(usefulness )but the day you will need surgery you will not want that to be based on AI diagnostics without your having anything to say and I am not sure that you will be delighted to fly in a plane piloted by AI. And when it comes to your kids education, I am not sure if a robot teacher will perform to your liking reading from a book written by AI.
And finally AI engineers are not necessarily the smartest people in the world. They are good at what they do but once outside their narrow field, they may be the biggest morons on the planet simply because they do not know anything else in most cases.
During COVID, I got 100% of my salary to work from home and was able to save 40% of my income NOT having to go out, GAS WAS CHEAP at $2 a gallon premium, and I was investing on the stock market while everything was crashed.
We all basically got a taste of what it feels like to be wealthy.
Now they wanna just TURN IT OFF and tell people to go back to work?
LOL.
Bet you’d LOVE another lockdown huh?
@@jbo3536they decided to lock things down and we had to make home offices. I didn’t hear anything negative about working from home during Covid. Now you people are worried it may crash the office real estate market? Turn your offices into apartments.
@@jbo3536 Nope. He's just saying he appreciated having a significant chunk of his expenses reduced, allowing him to save/invest more. Given that he was able to do his job at home, he's suggesting it's not unreasonable to desire continuing to do it from home. He's right. Imagine being exposed to electricity and power tools, and then having some goofballs tell you that you need to go back to manual tools because some other people around the world still use them. There are different types of jobs; some require being in-person, and others don't. CV19 hit and hundreds of millions of office workers learned they could do their job at home. It's absurd to suggest they're wrong in thinking that is still true.
Another thing these employers do not like the idea that some people are working 2-3 full time jobs at once.
So what? Until Trump gets back in office, we are all trying to survive inflation
@@illbet4589I get it but these companies don’t care about that. They’re going to feel like you’re not 100% focused if you have to juggle between multiple jobs. It’s also partly about control. Thats what you have to deal with when you work for others. It’s not fair but it’s life unfortunately.
For the first time, I have heard Adam making an intelligent point.
True, I actually can agree on that 'Hybrid work' point.
I missed it
I missed it too…. He’s best when he doesn’t talk
Ditto.
He's made a lot more. Don't hate
Yet HE works from home 🏠 people who work from home cannot be controlled! It’s not my fault you chose to be a cook !
You mean he hates that people aren't sitting in traffic, wasting their life,breathing stale air under artificial light, spending time away from their kids and pets? Just to do a job, they can do better and are more productive and enthusiastic to do at home? No one wants to gossip around the water cooler anymore.
I can say for a fact that I miss the office and the camaraderie, it's just so invaluable. I love getting sick, seeing people's lunches gunk up the sink, stepping in piss at the urinals, listening to the guy two seats over chuckle-snorting with huge headphones on all day not knowing everyone can hear him while in wet socks from walking to work in the rain.
I also love being ignored by the boss who doesn't give a crap if the experts say an approach wont work - and then has me stay late to fix the thing I would have had done correct in the first place. Listening to speeches and going to meetings that should have been emails is practically a hobby of mine. I am so glad I got to do while in the office. The perks of having my in-office time consumed by feel-good tasks for the boss so that I can work unpaid overtime when the meetings taking 5 times longer than they should have is just such a character building experience. I'm practically two characters now because of it. I miss it all so, so, so much.
So much.
Lol you’re going to make me have sweet, sweet dreams of my office tonight.
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Okay then tell Elon he's not allowed to access his work on his phone or laptop or tablet then. I'd like to see how he'd cope having to go into the office just to read an email.
Elon is the one who previously bragged about working from home, in his hot tub, on his phone
@@cavejohnson4054 haha that is true 😂
He makes engough money where he controls where he works but you don’t.
@@michelleturner8558 So it is just a class thing?
@@michelleturner8558 What a ridiculous response. What does how much he makes got anything to do with it?
I am rather an honest laptop class every day than being a seller of life insurance. Talk about being immoral!
No one walks on water. No one is perfect especially you.
So you’re a chump
You mean like PBD was?
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Pbd can speak for himself. I know that no one is perfect. I know anyone who claims moral high ground is sus.
Congress goes to work together, and we all get screwed, I guess going in person works!!
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I'm with Adam on this issue. I'll be 60 in March and my commute was and hour and a half each way 5 days a week before the pandemic.
We're now in the office one day per week and non of my coworkers want to be there including the supervisors. All of my work is done on my laptop that's what they pay me to do.
I don't get paid for the 3 hours getting to and from the office and I don't need some unelected billionaire telling me I'm morally wrong for not acting like a good little surf.
Office interactions are soul crushing
💯 I'd rather spend my time interacting with my pets while I do my work instead of fake awkward conversations with coworkers.
But the coffee machine! There's free coffee! Don't you get it! It's free! And it's coffee! Isn't that amazing and totally worth the 200hrs per year in commute time?
Don't forget about the annual company pizza party to show their appreciation to their workers.. lol
I love talking about the weather and the commute.
There's no moral or logical argument to make someone commute to an office that can work remotely for a wide variety of reasons.
Funny it’s now a “moral” issue.
If I earn a owner money and crush my numbers fuck off with all that.
I have been with my company 24 years. I worked remotely for 20 years. I was forced into an office 2 years ago to keep my job. Now I am sick all the time and have to deal with this weird culture of inclusion.
I've worked from home for 13 years. I was able to be here for my kids. I save tons of money. I'm more productive because I'm independent and I have never enjoyed group work. Also, I don't miss the office environment of a group of all women and therefore drama. Much more peace working from home. We have email and Teams meetings to stay connected, focusing only on work. My husband is in construction. I appreciate the difference in our work environments and how his is much tougher. Jobs are different and people are different. Not everyone is good working from home.
fix all the other moral issues in this society before coming after workers.
I don’t go to work to make friends and network. I go to work. If i can work more efficiently from home, why continue to go to the office.
My team is 100% remote and is the best, most productive team in the company. I understand that pilots and truck drivers can't "work from home" (as of today) but that does not make it "immoral"... It's just different. Working at a Tesla factory is also much more comfortable than working on an oil rig or a fishing boat or being a soldier on a mission...
40% of the jobs in the US can be WFH. That's 40% less traffic on the road and the fact that none of these people talk about the insane work-life balance.
Then again PDB is a former MLM marketer so his whole thing is to turn those "down trotted" people into millionaires by selling them the dream of a MLM franchise. No different than Primerica people.
What would Musk know about morals?
Good question.
It saves you time of your life and money… the moral issue is him thinking we are slaves… I’m an adult, I don’t need baby sitting… and I’m more productive at home than in the office. There’s not such thing as friendships at work
When you team is spread across multiple time zones, the office doesn't make sense. Bring everything back to the US and I'd happily go back to the office.
As someone who manages a team that works from home… I don’t care where they are working as long as they get their work done. As a leader it’s my job to foster great communication and help my team build relationships and help them collaborate together. For some people working from home doesn’t work but for many people it brings a greater balance to work/life.
These conservatives are really disappointing. They think this is a moral issue. Right and wrong, good vs evil. Isnt it ironic that the top 1% are trying to force this bullshit? And what a surprise, they love Mr Trump. The Democrats may be a lot of things, but at least they dont pretend to care about the working class while simultaneously supporting everyone and everything that doesnt support them
If your job allows it and it makes sense, I have no issue with it. Why can’t a delivery driver work from home? How does that make sense, if that delivery driver wants to work from home, maybe said delivery driver should find a job that allows working from home. There are actually a lot of benefits that come with work remote, work life balance, saving money. Not all jobs allow work from home and even the ones that do, it’s not full-time remote.
As a Tesla owner of two Teslas, there’s nothing wrong with working from home. This is not the old 1940s OK things have changed.
“Things have changed bro haha, lockdowns were AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!
@@jbo3536 Youre completely changing the argument. Working at home is great, and only slackers or bosses with real estate investments care about working in office. The lock downs were awful, and most people would agree, even those who benefited from them. And the lock downs did cause a permanent, drastic change in western society, the effects of which we will see for a decade or more.
Where else would the laptop Workforce Go and show off their luxury watches in handbags and sunglasses if they don't go to the office
Im more productive working at home. Less distractions and chit chat. I dont need anything offered in office. Its better for me, you dont have to work home if you dont want to. Its called HAVING A CHOICE AND FREEDOM. corporate shills...
Been Working Remote since 2018 as a Data analyst. Never going back to office again. I can work for any company and from anywhere.
Me sitting in Phoenix traffic and doing commute for 3 hrs a day is not something that will make me productive.
...and some people get to make a lot of money sitting in an airconditioned studio talking into a mic while others have to work as bricklayers, miners, etc. Moral high ground... says the rich as they drive by the homeless in their brand-new Lambo.
I work for a government contractor that only hires work from home for my position.
I've been work from home for almost 19 years.
There is nothing wrong with working from home. If I can be just a productive at home as I am at work. While I’m able to take my kids to school etc. Why wouldn’t I? I don’t mind going into the office sometimes it’s a good change of pace. Me personally I believe once people was able to start working from home they realized maybe this company isn’t my entire life…
Not everybody should but those that can...do. Got a problem with it? Then get a job that makes it so you also can work from home....not my fault that you are only educated enough to work from a factory
Solid point.
That part 🎯
I own a hvac business with 50 employees.. don’t call me to fix your hvac system either .. stupid elitist bs comment .. not educated enough .. I’m a multi millionaire and built it from nothing .. what do you do ?
As a guy who has to commute working from home makes driving easier as theres less traffic
From a practical perspective
I would think it is morally wrong that he wants to give himself a salary of over 50 billion dollars meanwhile more and more people are becoming poor and barely can survive financially.
I work for a marketing company that does 50 million per year. 300 employees and we all are remote around the globe. Managers know how to keep us accountable and productive. The company has been remote since day 1.
elon wants you driving a tesla to work..haha
Hell why stop there? Why don't we go back to using telegrams or morse code? Actually every time Elon wants to make a call to Japan, he has to BOOK the tickets and travel there instead? Actually no. He has to WALK there!
I've been working from home since 2012. In the words of Diddy "Can't stop Won't stop!"🕺🕺🏻🕺🏼🕺🏽🕺🏾🕺🏿
After 30 plus years of working on site with multiple co-workers I can only think of one co-worker that I still keep in touch with. Your co-workers are not your friends.
Love Elon but I disagree totally .
Yep, this has been a disappointing take from him throughout the pandemic and now. There are different types of jobs. Some require being in-person because they are literally impossible otherwise (construction, landscaping, brick & mortar retail, restaurants, etc)... MS Excel for 8 hours a day? Absolutely doable remote.
I work from home and my productivity has gone way up. So many distractions at the office, constantly got interrupted. If these people want to work from home then get a job that gets you out of the factory then.
If my job can be done from home, then I’ll do it at home. Cars can’t be built at home.
Since 2020, my husband has been working from home. It saves him 3 hours of drive time going back and forth in Nashville traffic plus going out for an hour lunch break, again in traffic. As a result, his boss scored almost four additional hours of my husband's time which is now spent working. He grabs lunch from the kitchen and goes right back to his desk. My husband works more now, from home, than when he went into the office.
All this to say.....he's always on video meetings since the rest of his team is in Texas, Florida, Arizona, and Mexico.
For a different twist...his boss (in Texas) cannot get work done from home so he rents an office space in a building...just big enough for him to have a desk and a few chairs behind closed doors. He works there during office hours then goes home and works some more.
I guess it depends on the job and how disciplined you are.
I work in niche ERP staffing where people are hard to find, and companies want these people onsite daily. I ask why, they say, it's company culture.
Musk couldn’t give two af about the house workers or teachers that can’t wfh, never thought I’d be agreeing with Adam 😂
It's not immoral to work from home, that's what probably most people have done for thousands of years.
I run a company with 47 employees we all work from home. There are times when people slack off but overall we’ve been very successful and not having an office has given us a huge advantage in finding talent.
Haters gonna hate
But all the companies realized we even produced more doing home office that’s why many still do it and save the cost to rent.
I work in ICT and work from home, 4 days a week. I don't care what some of the CEO's and CFO's of this world are squawking about. I am FAR more productive from home than travelling an hour into the office, paying $20 for parking, and then another hour for the trip home. Public transport is cheaper, but who wants to smell like piss, or encounter potential crime on the way. I also work late into the night some days. Yes, person to person contact, meetings and lunches etc are important, but it's BUSINESS. There needs to be a LOT more research into this, funded by NON PARTISAN entities before this gets resolved. Cities, and civilisation in general are decentralising, and yes, COVID has accelerated this. There needs to be clear rules in place, such as, if you're in a meeting, cameras are compulsory, calls are always answered, emails responded to within hours etc, BUT, working from home for some is paramount to a healthy work/life balance, and has benefited millions of families around the world. Integrity is EVERYTHING.
They act like the people working from home didn’t earn the right to do so. Ridiculous
in an environment where we are getting screwed at 30% inflation over the past years, working from home puts a significant amount of $ in my pocket. Businesses arent going to adjust my wages for inflation. The "free market " will take years, if ever, to compensate for this tyoe of inflation.
If you work from home, you don't need to save on gas and buy an electric vehicle!?!
I’m 100% WFH and have no problem. I’m more productive (yes, I am because I don’t have to sit in traffic). All of my coworkers are WFH, as are many of my clients. (Which btw, we are all geographically disbursed). My job isn’t dependent upon working within my teammates.
I took steps and made choices in my life so that I can get jobs that allow you to work remotely.
For those that can WFH, let us be.
I have Laptop class employees that are almost impossible to get into the Office. They merely don't get raises, no bonuses, no special treatments. They have the priveldge to work in their pajamas.
WTH? Elon created the single best thing to enable WFH. Starlink! Now he’s bawling? ….It’s apples and oranges. Every job is different. Our world and tech created the laptop class. It’s here to stay. Nuff said. 😂
Such an irony 😮
Elon is getting on my nerves. How about you worry about Tesla Corp. and Twitter X?
Class disagreement. Work from home is great for the working class so naturally the bosses hate it
Me and my wife have been working from home for over a decade. We grind all day! Not everyone can do it but it works for us
If you want to change the world and be 'all-in' on a mission with Elon, I understand working from home is going to fail, however, most companies have a toxic work culture who have zero loyalty to you (but expect loyalty from you) and will lay you off without batting an eye with offices located in expensive, urban areas that are very difficult to afford and commute to / from. If we want people to be happy, have families, and achieve the american dream, we must embrace remote work. It's not about entitlement. It's about being realistic with modern work/life challenges. I have personally seen productivity increase with remote work and there's plenty of data supporting this. Go look it up. If you must blame someone, blame corporate america. They have pushed employees around enough. Remember when the Covid relief fund for businesses were suppose to save jobs? They took the cash and fired people anyway. Stop blaming workers! I remember a time when a barista could afford a home. That's a pipe dream now.
Working at is morally wrong but living at work is not in his eyes apparently 🤷🏻♂️
Working from anywhere in the world is the reason I got into the engineering field. I used to work 65+ hours in a car dealership. Zero work-life-balance. Not to mention it attracts disrespectful people with issues. No one wants advice on the workplace from the sales industry! My advice, work without feeling like you are working. That's the sustainable and correct way.
He laid off thousands of employees and refused to take a pay cut to prevent that. He has no right to talk about morals.
He saying this because he has 20 year leases on commercial spaces and wants them filled. He’s masking this as a moral issue when its about his bottom line lmao
So because someone who builds houses can't work from home then no one should be able to? Even smart people have dumb opinions sometimes. "Construction workers don't get to work in the air condition so no one should"
That was my first association as well.
Funny thing is, most construction workers are 6months on and 6 month's off. Meaning they are home half the year if the market is really slow. I only know this because one of the guys I work with used to be in construction. Used to tell me they would work 6 month stints and the longest he's ever been on a site was 2 years (his company got sub-contracted for track housing). Then when there's a drought, he'd have to be a handyman competing with other construction workers often leading to even worst wages. Eventually after the 2nd to last contract he just decided to job change, went into IT and works remote. Still has his license to do construction work just doesn't use it, IT pays him more and he's at home with his kids.
Less than 10% of jobs can be done from home. Almost all work is service oriented.
It's the last breath of the old way of thinking. It's a struggle to embrace the digital age. You can fight the concept all you want, but it is inevitable.