Know the J57 engine like the back of my hand after working on them for 3.5 years in the USAF on bombers and tankers. J57-P-43W on G model B-52 bombers(and later H models with TF33 engines), and P-59W on KC & EC-135A tankers. Could still work on them in my sleep some 47 years later! The J57 was a darn good engine and would take a beating and still perform well. The loudest aircraft in the USAF inventory IMHO is a KC/EC-135A in water on takeoff. They made enough noise to wake the dead and would leave a telltale black smoke trail until the water injection was shut off. Thanks for a very cool presentation from this jet engine troop/USAF veteran here!
In my Airforce days, one plane I worked on was the F-101B/F Voodoo. It had two J-57s. The J-57 saved several early jet aircraft projects originally designed for the failed Westinghouse J-40 turbojet.
As a kid in Rhode Island at the bay Naval Station , I used to watch the jet aircraft and the S-2F twins ! Kid day the gang took me into a submarine and gave me grapes & ice cream ! All the crew were Super nice and I loved it all ! Awesome people , and a life time of memories . Thank you sir .
There at 10:43 is my beloved A-3 Skywarrior. Not that exact one, but the plane that I was a Plane Captain for in my Naval aviation days back in 71-75. The squadron had four of them and they were designated ERA-3B Skywarrior. We were an ECM ...Electronic Counter-Measures...squadron. We also had one of those beautiful "Princess of the Skies", the EC-121 Super Connie. My best buddy was a jet mechanic and he taught me to start the engines and run them while he was underneath the open engine cowling making adjustments while I had those J 57's running at high rpm's. It was wild. the concrete was shaking, the plane was shaking and straining at the tie-downs that secured it to the concrete, and it was roaring like freight train bearing down on us...!! Great times and memories..!!
As a 15 year old kid in 1983, I had the Revell Snark and the Lindberg F-8 Crusader. In 1983, both of those kits were reissues, and even I could tell they were older kits with just newer box art. 👍😎👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
When I first went to work at TWA, back in 1989, I was told about a building at the Kansas City maintenance base called the Power House. When the facilities were moved from the Downtown airport to the then-new International Airport, two no-longer-airworthy JT-3Cs were installed, fueled with either jet fuel or natural gas, to turn generators which provided electricity for the base. They ran for many years until the local electric utility forced them to stop and convert to the utility-provided electricity.
In 1969-70, I was a line crewman in VF-124, which operated F-8H and F-8J Crusaders. One of the lighter F-8H's had a J57-P420 (meant for J's only) installed by accident. Once, a student pilot was assigned to that hotrod H. I was strapping him in when our operations officer interrupted us and forced him to swap airplanes. It didn't take long before the maintenance division corrected the mistake by returning the correct P20 engine to the H that it was meant for. The F-8 was very high performance but quite unforgiving to new pilots. I think that we lost twelve aircraft in the thirteen months that I served in VF-124, two of them fatal.
I have a t-shirt that has your painting of the Eastern Golden Falcon DC-8 (as on the Aurora boxtop) on it. It's important to me, since in June 1960 the first airplane I ever flew on was one of those. And I had that 1/48 F-102, though without the accessory vehicles. I remember that everything on that model moved, and supposedly raising the canopy would cause the gear to drop, but the linkage was complicated and it never worked right.
My father worked as a foreman in the experimental construction shop at P&W in 1950. They had to invent metal working techniques for the J57 . The J57 was a game changer and nothing compared to in the 1950s
It can be easy to forget merely enjoying your narrative, but your videos are works of art. Just gorgeous slide after gorgeous slide, whether fascinating archival photos or stunning original artworks from you and your cohorts. Thanks for the excellence, Mike.
You always have Great presentations Mike... This one was outstanding as the others that You presented are.... I really like the military and civilian planes from the Cold War era... Especially the jets...And those ultra-cool model kits!!! Just awesome!!! Those vintage photos from LAX... So very cool!!!
This reminds me of my time at Northrup University. In the jet engine class the school had a J-47 on a portable test stand. During the class at times the instructor would let us roll the engine out of shop and start it up, the instructor would "gas" the throttle and tilt the engine up on two wheels, this was to help teach Newton's Third Law: Action & Reaction That for every action (force) in nature there is an equal and opposite reaction, fun times. I'm sure that is no longer allowed................... lol "True story."
It's always a treat when i get to watch one of these videos while I'm getting breakfast started in the chicken. Your videos are a great companion to that all important first cup of coffee in the morning. 👍
Those "Sound Suppressor Unit" 9:48 are what we in the Navy, at NAS Miramar called the "Hush House." Went there numerous times for engine trim on the A-4 Skyhawk, AKA "Scooter." And while the Scooter lacked afterburner, the Pratt and Whitney J-52-P-408A was very loud indeed!
I just treated myself to a Mike Machat late night double feature. Each of your video presentations rates as "must see" entertainment. What a great way to end a day! Thank you, Mike, for producing such glorious video celebrations of aviation!
Nice shot of a F-102A @ 07:37. Note one of two prominent area-ruled 'Marilyns' on its rear fuselage, part of a multi-faceted redesign to help push it through 'the wall'. Good stuff as always Mike - thanks.
HI, and thanks for the J57 video As a F100 pilot in RDAF 1967 - 1972, the A/B on J57,had some time (too often) a tendency to do hard lightups. It may be of interrest to know that later when the F-102 were retired - Pave Deuce- , we bought their afterburner nozzel, wich was much smoother in operation. And suddenly the engine problems, we had had (too often) were gone. Mostly. Best regards
I've seen jet cars in my time at the drag strip powered by J-57's back when I was on a crew for a drag bike in the early 1990's. They were poundingly, ear-rapingly, loud. Just amazing pieces of machinery. Watching them push a car down a track in under 4 seconds while blowing a giant tongue of flame 100 or so yards out the back end while roaring like a dragon on meth-based whiskey through God's PA system is something to behold. Especially at track level from the starting line. When the J79 cars started showing up it was all over. Love me some jet engines. Be well, Mike! Thanks!
Back in the 80s & 90s they used to hold a 500km saloon car race on the Wellington waterfront and they would frequently have a dragster do a run before the race started as a demonstration. I live about 1 mile from the track and would watch some of it on TV as I'm not enthusiastic enough to go down and watch. When they did the dragster run I would mute my TV and open my front door and could hear the sound easy as anything at that distance.
@@kiwitrainguy Probably had a bit of a delay between watching the car and hearing the sound, but I get ya. They are LOUD. I've been playing or mixing live music most of my life sans ear protection for most until I got smart so I have some loss and wicked tinnitus (a 'ringing' in the 7k range). At 58 that's not bad, and I use plugs now when around loud sounds which I strenuously recommend to everyone I come across in the same situation.
Yes the delay was about the same as the time it took to do the drag. The visual would stop on the TV then I would hear the sound. And ear protection is soooo important.@@sski
@@kiwitrainguy That's pretty cool that the live sound would follow the TV broadcast of the run almost immediately. It makes sense in your distance from the event broadcast. It's the same effect I get watching a thunderstorm come in. You can tell how far it is by watching the lightening, then counting the seconds until you hear the thunder then dividing by miles and there's your 'storm edge', there abouts.
Mike I want to thank you ahead of time, I have to leave for work before I can finish the vid. What I have seen so far is your usual quality work...............
This is just fascinating, Mike. Although I was a logistics officer in the RCAF I once got a ride in the backseat of a Voodoo. It was an amazing experience but this video adds so much to my understanding of the event. Who knew the afterburning engine that took me up on my hop was so versatile and widely used. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge.
People frequently opine that the Concorde was one of the most beautiful aircraft ever to fly. Perhaps true, but my heart skips a beat whenever I see the MD F4D Skyray. That's the bedroom wall poster airplane for me!
Good one, Mike. I think I learned something. I was in Avionics not Powerplants. I just looked at jet engines as Crew Shredders. You didn't want to be in front of them, or directly in back of them. Ninty degrees perpendicular to the axis of flight was fine, but keep your ''ears'' on.
Another great video Mike. As with all aircraft, the engine and airframe are inseparable as a unit. When dad started at PWA in 1959, they were making J57's just as fast as they could. All machining was done with just really talented manual machinists. The advances in materials, construction techniques, and design during his time at PWA was amazing. In 1997, they were making F100-200 for the Eagles just as fast as they could when he retired. The F-8 Crusader used the 18,000lb thrust version of the J57. They could give F-4's a "bad day" as their performance was quite impressive, even by todays standard. Voodo's and Huns the 16,000lb version. An EAA member in my club did design work on alternate fuel use for aviation at PWA. The test engine was a J57. They'd run on just about anything I guess. He remembers standing next to J57's running in AB .in test cells making adjustments. Can you imagine!! Anyway, hope you do a vid on "the beast"... the J75. Most powerful pure turbojet ever (to my knowledge). 29,500lbs in the version for the Super Crusader. (same rating as F100-200 AB fan engines of F-15). Nice video,Thanks!
5:03 Pete Everest is one of my biggest test pilot heroes, and there’s a famous photo of him sitting outside (maybe on the back of the seat) of an F-104, camera pointing upwards. It’s iconic, he’s the archetypal dashing test pilot. This one of him standing next to the F-100 is almost equally of poster quality. Who took these? You, Mike? They’re just brilliant.
The J-57 is truly an amazing engine. Surprised by the different aircraft that used it. The C model U-2 was powered by the J-75, not the J-57. It barely fit and, although it weighed more, it provided significantly more thrust at altitude than the original J-57. The C model could fly higher the the A model and could reach both sides of the 'coffin corner'. The C model is also the highest flying variant of the U-2.
At 4:21 in the video the picture of the J-57 engine. If you look at the middle of the engine the fattest case (combustion case) that has a fire seal bolted to its forward flange you will see a small line with a circular coil on it going into the combustion case at the 3:00 position. That line entered the combustion case at the #3 burner can and was used to inject raw fuel through the burner can and into the turbines which would light the after burner. It was called hot streak ignition, and due to the inherent delay, or lag, the after burner had fuel flowing into it, just as the hot streak line was injecting fuel into the turbines. This caused the resulting boom that was heard when the after burner would light, really neat at night. Thanks for the video Mike, excellent as usual, as an ex-USAF jet shop troop this one landed right in my wheel house.
As I recall the nozzle also had something to do with the loud bang. These early nozzles would only go fully open or fully closed unlike newer designs that were progressive. When the pilot selected afterburner the EPR would drop momentarily when the nozzle opened and then it would jump up again when the burner lit. Newer engines like the J-79 had progressive nozzles and staged spray bars so they didn't go bang when the burner lights.
I had many hours on the JT3D3B if maintained and operated properly it was indestructible the PRBC valve was not fun to change however ! Dependable engines indeed !!
I had a deprived aviation upbringing as I was way too young to have appreciated the "Steve Canyon" TV series and I never flew on a jetliner powered by J57 engines. Great, informative story on this particular jet powerplant and thanks for sharing!
Marvelous episode as always, Mr Machat! So much to learn about the J57. Knew some of this info, but I was surprised by some of it. As usual, it was an excellent presentation and great learning experience for me. You are a treasure, Sir! As always, God bless you and your family, and thanks for everything you do! Take care always.
13:42 Awesome site, the nostalgia is overwhelming at times. I was a Cub Scout at Ramey AFB Puerto Rico in the early 1960's, Eisenhower flew in on this AF-1 on his way to a South American tour too. That is also the year we transitioned to B-52s and KC-135s. It was a big deal to see the jets compared to the B-36s they were replacing.
Being an Aeronautical Engineer and a Pilot I often have my blood pressure raised when I try and watch what should be an interesting video about airplanes only to see a video made by bad amateur historians that are not engineers or pilots say everything was first done by the NAZIs and everyone else stuff is crap badly copied or actually done by Operation Paper Clip engineers mostly because they don't understand the material. [WOW that was a hell of a run on sentence, you can tell I'm an engineer not a english professor] None of them were witness or participants to actual history of aviation. You on the other hand lower my blood pressure by not getting anything wrong because you saw it happen! Im always happy when I see you made a new video, I know I'm going to like it.
Dear Mike. I look forward to your essays and reviews. Always great format, interesting subject material and as a former model aircraft hobbyist the box top section is always connected with good memories. You see a goodly portion of my summer and winter lawn mowing and snow shoveling money as a kid supported my hobby. The late 50’s and early 60’s was an interesting time to grow up near Wright-Patterson AFB. Transformative and fascinating as the USAF underwent the change from radial engines and propellors to turbo jet. My first personal exposure to the B-52 Stratofortress occurred as I stood transfixed watching a smoke belching winged monster, rush headlong towards me and loft into the air. I watched completely mesmerized as the main gear rotated and disappeared into their respective wells overhead. Oh what a day for a young boy fascinated with aircraft. All the very best to you Mike. Please keep up the great work that you do.
Some of my favorite contents to watch. Mike you do such a great job with the photos and adding the verbal background makes the video always come alive.
Thanks Mike, another great one,wow so many planes for one engine. A special thanks for last week’s post on the X-15. I had no idea that there were so many variants of X-15.
Excellent episode Mike!💯 Several items stood out to me. #1 As always, your artwork is so color rich/saturated!👍 #2 In reference to the F-102 depicted in the cover for this video, I have never seen a 5th FIS Spitten Kitten with red lightning bolts bracketing the yellow star field. Usually blue. Now you have me digging through photos, which will lead me to build a Deuce with the unusual tail markings.
Thanks for the comment, and please see my video two weeks ago on using "Artistic License." Yes, the 5th FIS tail flash is indeed a yellow field surrounded by dark blue lightning bolts, but that all but disappeared because of the blue background in this small thumbnail. To correct this, I changed the lightning bolts to red, never suspecting anyone would notice! You have sharp eyes, and no disrespect intended to the 5th FIS.
Mike there is never any disrespect when you capture any unit. To be the subject of a "Machat" is an honor Sir! Thank you for clarifying because my list of builds is long already! Red against yellow is always stunning and I was going to have to build it. LOL@@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
Another great video, Mike! I have to admit I was confused when you showed the array of model box tops...I see a box with a big COMET printed on it, but I was looking at the 367-80!! It took some enlarging and study to realize it wasn't a mistake, and that Comet was the kit company! Again, thanks...my second trip from NY to California in 1961 was on a J-57 powered DC-8...fantastic for an 8 year old kid!
Great video Mike on the outstanding J57 jet engines. Steve Canyon flew the J57 powered F-102, and he flew EVERY OTHER aircraft in the 1958 Air Force inventory, as shown in the DVD series released a few years ago. Excellent show. Appreciate all you do.
The original afterburner nozzle on the J57 used on the F-100 was an unreliable design that often got stuck in the closed position, which prevented the afterburner from igniting. When the F-102's were retired their newer, more reliable afterburner nozzles were removed and transferred onto the F-100's. Also, the F-100's military service didn't end after Southeast Asia. The Air National Guard continued to operate them until the end of the 1970's.
Fascinating, I had no idea of the relationship twixt the J57 and the TF33. So the F-111 and F-14A had derivatives of the J57? Edit: mmmm, my bad. Those two swing wing aircraft used the TF30.
Great video. I enjoy seeing the plastic model kits that I liked as a kid. Just to clarify, wasn't the B-57 powered by a British derived engine, the J-65? I think those long winged models had TF-33's and apparently, some are still in use.
Yes, good catch. Original Martin B-57Bs were powered by J65s, and WB-57Fs had the TF-33. However, the first long-wingspan RB-57D models were equipped with P&W J57s, and I should have clarified that. Thanks for watching!
The North American Aviation Museum in Gander, Newfoundland has an example of the RCAF version of the F-101 interceptor. Unfortunately, it's an outside exhibit and the engines (and most everything else) have been removed. 8:09 Ohhh, God, the J40. How can one company get an engine (the J57) so right while another gets theirs (the J40) so wrong?
It’s very interesting that the “same” engine was used in military and civilian aircraft. I wonder if any modern civilian engines are derived from a military engine.
Good question! A "turbojet" is a straight turbine engine, while a "turbofan" has a turbojet core with a larger set of turbine blades at the front or rear to augment thrust. As an added bonus, the shroud of cool fan exhaust surrounds the hotter core jet exhaust which reduces noise significantly. Thanks for watching!
I had my share of working them at Minot,a P59 variant & I worked on one with a Ford data plate once. And to those punk f--k's from Castle sending us high time motors ,we hated yall.
Good question, and yes, they built the legendary Rolls Royce Merlin engine that powered 1930s racing airplanes, and the World War II P-51 Mustang and Supermarine Spitfire. Thanks for watching!
As an aviation enthusiast for more than 50 years, I thank you very much for sharing all your knowledge in a so informative and interesting manner.
Another great video Mike. It sparked a few questions that I will email you. See ya on the 21st.
Know the J57 engine like the back of my hand after working on them for 3.5 years in the USAF on bombers and tankers. J57-P-43W on G model B-52 bombers(and later H models with TF33 engines), and P-59W on KC & EC-135A tankers. Could still work on them in my sleep some 47 years later! The J57 was a darn good engine and would take a beating and still perform well.
The loudest aircraft in the USAF inventory IMHO is a KC/EC-135A in water on takeoff. They made enough noise to wake the dead and would leave a telltale black smoke trail until the water injection was shut off.
Thanks for a very cool presentation from this jet engine troop/USAF veteran here!
In my Airforce days, one plane I worked on was the F-101B/F Voodoo. It had two J-57s.
The J-57 saved several early jet aircraft projects originally designed for the failed Westinghouse J-40 turbojet.
As a kid in Rhode Island at the bay Naval Station , I used to watch the jet aircraft and the S-2F twins !
Kid day the gang took me into a submarine and gave me grapes & ice cream ! All the crew were
Super nice and I loved it all ! Awesome people , and a life time of memories . Thank you sir .
Worked on J-57s in the Navy.
There at 10:43 is my beloved A-3 Skywarrior. Not that exact one, but the plane that I was a Plane Captain for in my Naval aviation days back in 71-75. The squadron had four of them and they were designated ERA-3B Skywarrior. We were an ECM ...Electronic Counter-Measures...squadron. We also had one of those beautiful "Princess of the Skies", the EC-121 Super Connie. My best buddy was a jet mechanic and he taught me to start the engines and run them while he was underneath the open engine cowling making adjustments while I had those J 57's running at high rpm's. It was wild. the concrete was shaking, the plane was shaking and straining at the tie-downs that secured it to the concrete, and it was roaring like freight train bearing down on us...!! Great times and memories..!!
As a 15 year old kid in 1983, I had the Revell Snark and the Lindberg F-8 Crusader. In 1983, both of those kits were reissues, and even I could tell they were older kits with just newer box art. 👍😎👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Mr. Machat, you got me hooked on Steve Canyon. They don't make television programs like that anymore. Thank-you very much.
When I first went to work at TWA, back in 1989, I was told about a building at the Kansas City maintenance base called the Power House. When the facilities were moved from the Downtown airport to the then-new International Airport, two no-longer-airworthy JT-3Cs were installed, fueled with either jet fuel or natural gas, to turn generators which provided electricity for the base. They ran for many years until the local electric utility forced them to stop and convert to the utility-provided electricity.
Love the j57. Powered many legendary aircraft.
In 1969-70, I was a line crewman in VF-124, which operated F-8H and F-8J Crusaders. One of the lighter F-8H's had a J57-P420 (meant for J's only) installed by accident. Once, a student pilot was assigned to that hotrod H. I was strapping him in when our operations officer interrupted us and forced him to swap airplanes. It didn't take long before the maintenance division corrected the mistake by returning the correct P20 engine to the H that it was meant for.
The F-8 was very high performance but quite unforgiving to new pilots. I think that we lost twelve aircraft in the thirteen months that I served in VF-124, two of them fatal.
Oh yes!!!
J58 next? 🥰🥰
That R.G. Smith over the water is just beautiful.
🚨 OMG, it’s a model top ORGY! 🚨
I have a t-shirt that has your painting of the Eastern Golden Falcon DC-8 (as on the Aurora boxtop) on it. It's important to me, since in June 1960 the first airplane I ever flew on was one of those. And I had that 1/48 F-102, though without the accessory vehicles. I remember that everything on that model moved, and supposedly raising the canopy would cause the gear to drop, but the linkage was complicated and it never worked right.
Thanks for this video. I flew as a navigator in the A3D during the early 1960s. My log book records over 1,000 hours and over 100 carrier landings.
My father worked as a foreman in the experimental construction shop at P&W in 1950. They had to invent metal working techniques for the J57 . The J57 was a game changer and nothing compared to in the 1950s
It can be easy to forget merely enjoying your narrative, but your videos are works of art. Just gorgeous slide after gorgeous slide, whether fascinating archival photos or stunning original artworks from you and your cohorts. Thanks for the excellence, Mike.
You always have Great presentations Mike... This one was outstanding as the others that You presented are.... I really like the military and civilian planes from the Cold War era... Especially the jets...And those ultra-cool model kits!!! Just awesome!!! Those vintage photos from LAX... So very cool!!!
This reminds me of my time at Northrup University. In the jet engine class the school had a J-47 on a portable test stand. During the class at times the instructor would let us roll the engine out of shop and start it up, the instructor would "gas" the throttle and tilt the engine up on two wheels, this was to help teach Newton's Third Law: Action & Reaction
That for every action (force) in nature there is an equal and opposite reaction, fun times. I'm sure that is no longer allowed................... lol "True story."
These are a few of my favorite jets...now I don't feel so bad🎵🎵🎵....excellent video!
Awesome video, great way to start off the week.
It's always a treat when i get to watch one of these videos while I'm getting breakfast started in the chicken. Your videos are a great companion to that all important first cup of coffee in the morning. 👍
Those "Sound Suppressor Unit" 9:48 are what we in the Navy, at NAS Miramar called the "Hush House." Went there numerous times for engine trim on the A-4 Skyhawk, AKA "Scooter." And while the Scooter lacked afterburner, the Pratt and Whitney J-52-P-408A was very loud indeed!
Very nice mike, thanks for the awesome videos!
I just treated myself to a Mike Machat late night double feature. Each of your video presentations rates as "must see" entertainment. What a great way to end a day! Thank you, Mike, for producing such glorious video celebrations of aviation!
That is awesome - appreciate the comment, thanks!
I'm a half second in to the video and LOVE that image of the Crusader!
Great video Mike, very informative thank you
An amazing engine, and some amazing aircraft, a real pleasure to watch.
So awesome!!! Mike, I love watching your videos. As a teacher myself, I enjoy the way you do your presentation. ☺💖
Nice shot of a F-102A @ 07:37. Note one of two prominent area-ruled 'Marilyns' on its rear fuselage, part of a multi-faceted redesign to help push it through 'the wall'. Good stuff as always Mike - thanks.
HI, and thanks for the J57 video
As a F100 pilot in RDAF 1967 - 1972, the A/B on J57,had some time (too often) a tendency to do hard lightups.
It may be of interrest to know that later when the F-102 were retired - Pave Deuce- , we bought their afterburner nozzel, wich was much smoother in operation.
And suddenly the engine problems, we had had (too often) were gone. Mostly.
Best regards
I've seen jet cars in my time at the drag strip powered by J-57's back when I was on a crew for a drag bike in the early 1990's. They were poundingly, ear-rapingly, loud. Just amazing pieces of machinery. Watching them push a car down a track in under 4 seconds while blowing a giant tongue of flame 100 or so yards out the back end while roaring like a dragon on meth-based whiskey through God's PA system is something to behold. Especially at track level from the starting line. When the J79 cars started showing up it was all over. Love me some jet engines. Be well, Mike! Thanks!
Back in the 80s & 90s they used to hold a 500km saloon car race on the Wellington waterfront and they would frequently have a dragster do a run before the race started as a demonstration. I live about 1 mile from the track and would watch some of it on TV as I'm not enthusiastic enough to go down and watch. When they did the dragster run I would mute my TV and open my front door and could hear the sound easy as anything at that distance.
@@kiwitrainguy Probably had a bit of a delay between watching the car and hearing the sound, but I get ya. They are LOUD. I've been playing or mixing live music most of my life sans ear protection for most until I got smart so I have some loss and wicked tinnitus (a 'ringing' in the 7k range). At 58 that's not bad, and I use plugs now when around loud sounds which I strenuously recommend to everyone I come across in the same situation.
Yes the delay was about the same as the time it took to do the drag. The visual would stop on the TV then I would hear the sound. And ear protection is soooo important.@@sski
@@kiwitrainguy That's pretty cool that the live sound would follow the TV broadcast of the run almost immediately. It makes sense in your distance from the event broadcast.
It's the same effect I get watching a thunderstorm come in. You can tell how far it is by watching the lightening, then counting the seconds until you hear the thunder then dividing by miles and there's your 'storm edge', there abouts.
Worked in the J 57 engine shop at Westover AFB in 71-72 B 52D and KC-135A and Kadena AFB flightline KC-135A
Another great video. The art and photos are amazing. Collection of box tops is amazing. Great work.
Thank you John - this one was fun putting together. 😀
Another great one Mike! You always knew the J-57’s because of the trademark Smokey exhaust. Especially those 707’s!
Mike I want to thank you ahead of time, I have to leave for work before I can finish the vid. What I have seen so far is your usual quality work...............
This is just fascinating, Mike. Although I was a logistics officer in the RCAF I once got a ride in the backseat of a Voodoo. It was an amazing experience but this video adds so much to my understanding of the event. Who knew the afterburning engine that took me up on my hop was so versatile and widely used. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge.
People frequently opine that the Concorde was one of the most beautiful aircraft ever to fly. Perhaps true, but my heart skips a beat whenever I see the MD F4D Skyray. That's the bedroom wall poster airplane for me!
Good one, Mike. I think I learned something. I was in Avionics not Powerplants. I just looked at jet engines as Crew Shredders. You didn't want to be in front of them, or directly in back of them. Ninty degrees perpendicular to the axis of flight was fine, but keep your ''ears'' on.
Always enjoy your videos, thanks for making the time commitment to produce these.
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
Another great video Mike. As with all aircraft, the engine and airframe are inseparable as a unit. When dad started at PWA in 1959, they were making J57's just as fast as they could. All machining was done with just really talented manual machinists. The advances in materials, construction techniques, and design during his time at PWA was amazing. In 1997, they were making F100-200 for the Eagles just as fast as they could when he retired. The F-8 Crusader used the 18,000lb thrust version of the J57. They could give F-4's a "bad day" as their performance was quite impressive, even by todays standard. Voodo's and Huns the 16,000lb version. An EAA member in my club did design work on alternate fuel use for aviation at PWA. The test engine was a J57. They'd run on just about anything I guess. He remembers standing next to J57's running in AB .in test cells making adjustments. Can you imagine!! Anyway, hope you do a vid on "the beast"... the J75. Most powerful pure turbojet ever (to my knowledge). 29,500lbs in the version for the Super Crusader. (same rating as F100-200 AB fan engines of F-15). Nice video,Thanks!
.....My typo. duhh...PWA F100-229 was Eagle engine. Some F-16's used it too I believe.
The F-100 Super Sabre was a unique jet aircraft used by the Thunderbirds USAF. I like the F-100 & F-102 nice jets.
Agreed on the F-100 for the Thunderbirds!
Another well thought out and put together video. Always a joy to watch. 🙂
Many thanks!
5:03 Pete Everest is one of my biggest test pilot heroes, and there’s a famous photo of him sitting outside (maybe on the back of the seat) of an F-104, camera pointing upwards. It’s iconic, he’s the archetypal dashing test pilot. This one of him standing next to the F-100 is almost equally of poster quality.
Who took these? You, Mike? They’re just brilliant.
The J-57 is truly an amazing engine. Surprised by the different aircraft that used it. The C model U-2 was powered by the J-75, not the J-57. It barely fit and, although it weighed more, it provided significantly more thrust at altitude than the original J-57. The C model could fly higher the the A model and could reach both sides of the 'coffin corner'. The C model is also the highest flying variant of the U-2.
At 4:21 in the video the picture of the J-57 engine.
If you look at the middle of the engine the fattest case (combustion case) that has a fire seal bolted to its forward flange you will see a small line with a circular coil on it going into the combustion case at the 3:00 position.
That line entered the combustion case at the #3 burner can and was used to inject raw fuel through the burner can and into the turbines which would light the after burner.
It was called hot streak ignition, and due to the inherent delay, or lag, the after burner had fuel flowing into it, just as the hot streak line was injecting fuel into the turbines.
This caused the resulting boom that was heard when the after burner would light, really neat at night.
Thanks for the video Mike, excellent as usual, as an ex-USAF jet shop troop this one landed right in my wheel house.
As I recall the nozzle also had something to do with the loud bang. These early nozzles would only go fully open or fully closed unlike newer designs that were progressive. When the pilot selected afterburner the EPR would drop momentarily when the nozzle opened and then it would jump up again when the burner lit. Newer engines like the J-79 had progressive nozzles and staged spray bars so they didn't go bang when the burner lights.
Thank you for another great and informative video Mr. Machat.
I had many hours on the JT3D3B if maintained and operated properly it was indestructible the PRBC valve was not fun to change however ! Dependable engines indeed !!
I had a deprived aviation upbringing as I was way too young to have appreciated the "Steve Canyon" TV series and I never flew on a jetliner powered by J57 engines. Great, informative story on this particular jet powerplant and thanks for sharing!
Another great show, Mike. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it
Great channel , great documentation , thank you .
Great content as always, Mike thank you very much.
Wonderful, Mike.
Thanks Mike
Marvelous episode as always, Mr Machat! So much to learn about the J57. Knew some of this info, but I was surprised by some of it. As usual, it was an excellent presentation and great learning experience for me. You are a treasure, Sir! As always, God bless you and your family, and thanks for everything you do! Take care always.
You make it fun! Thank you!!
Thanks for watching!
Wonderful show as always Mike! I didn't realise how many aircraft had been powered by the J57...
Many thanks!
13:42 Awesome site, the nostalgia is overwhelming at times. I was a Cub Scout at Ramey AFB Puerto Rico in the early 1960's, Eisenhower flew in on this AF-1 on his way to a South American tour too. That is also the year we transitioned to B-52s and KC-135s. It was a big deal to see the jets compared to the B-36s they were replacing.
Being an Aeronautical Engineer and a Pilot I often have my blood pressure raised when I try and watch what should be an interesting video about airplanes only to see a video made by bad amateur historians that are not engineers or pilots say everything was first done by the NAZIs and everyone else stuff is crap badly copied or actually done by Operation Paper Clip engineers mostly because they don't understand the material. [WOW that was a hell of a run on sentence, you can tell I'm an engineer not a english professor] None of them were witness or participants to actual history of aviation. You on the other hand lower my blood pressure by not getting anything wrong because you saw it happen! Im always happy when I see you made a new video, I know I'm going to like it.
Great work, Mike! Gorgeous planes.
Dear Mike. I look forward to your essays and reviews. Always great format, interesting subject material and as a former model aircraft hobbyist the box top section is always connected with good memories. You see a goodly portion of my summer and winter lawn mowing and snow shoveling money as a kid supported my hobby. The late 50’s and early 60’s was an interesting time to grow up near Wright-Patterson AFB. Transformative and fascinating as the USAF underwent the change from radial engines and propellors to turbo jet. My first personal exposure to the B-52 Stratofortress occurred as I stood transfixed watching a smoke belching winged monster, rush headlong towards me and loft into the air. I watched completely mesmerized as the main gear rotated and disappeared into their respective wells overhead. Oh what a day for a young boy fascinated with aircraft. All the very best to you Mike. Please keep up the great work that you do.
Some of my favorite contents to watch. Mike you do such a great job with the photos and adding the verbal background makes the video always come alive.
Mike: Your videos just keep getting better and better! I really enjoy seeing all these beautiful birds that I build as models so long ago. Thank you!
Really, really great video! Thanks for sharing! I really would like to have at least listened to a KC135A or an early B52!
Always entertaining ❤
Thanks Mike, another great one,wow so many planes for one engine. A special thanks for last week’s post on the X-15. I had no idea that there were so many variants of X-15.
Great video as always
Wonderful video !!!!!!
That was great Mike. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great work here, MM.
Companion Video Idea:
The P & W J52 / JT8D Series.
Excellent episode Mike!💯 Several items stood out to me. #1 As always, your artwork is so color rich/saturated!👍 #2 In reference to the F-102 depicted in the cover for this video, I have never seen a 5th FIS Spitten Kitten with red lightning bolts bracketing the yellow star field. Usually blue. Now you have me digging through photos, which will lead me to build a Deuce with the unusual tail markings.
Thanks for the comment, and please see my video two weeks ago on using "Artistic License." Yes, the 5th FIS tail flash is indeed a yellow field surrounded by dark blue lightning bolts, but that all but disappeared because of the blue background in this small thumbnail. To correct this, I changed the lightning bolts to red, never suspecting anyone would notice! You have sharp eyes, and no disrespect intended to the 5th FIS.
Mike there is never any disrespect when you capture any unit. To be the subject of a "Machat" is an honor Sir! Thank you for clarifying because my list of builds is long already! Red against yellow is always stunning and I was going to have to build it. LOL@@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
Another great video, Mike! I have to admit I was confused when you showed the array of model box tops...I see a box with a big COMET printed on it, but I was looking at the 367-80!! It took some enlarging and study to realize it wasn't a mistake, and that Comet was the kit company! Again, thanks...my second trip from NY to California in 1961 was on a J-57 powered DC-8...fantastic for an 8 year old kid!
Great video Mike on the outstanding J57 jet engines. Steve Canyon flew the J57 powered F-102, and he flew EVERY OTHER aircraft in the 1958 Air Force inventory, as shown in the DVD series released a few years ago. Excellent show. Appreciate all you do.
Many thanks Glenn. Lunch soon!
Yup I built that F-102 kit!
The original afterburner nozzle on the J57 used on the F-100 was an unreliable design that often got stuck in the closed position, which prevented the afterburner from igniting. When the F-102's were retired their newer, more reliable afterburner nozzles were removed and transferred onto the F-100's. Also, the F-100's military service didn't end after Southeast Asia. The Air National Guard continued to operate them until the end of the 1970's.
To see some great footage the Steve Canyon Show is now (10/2023) included with Amazon Prime Video.
Fascinating, I had no idea of the relationship twixt the J57 and the TF33. So the F-111 and F-14A had derivatives of the J57? Edit: mmmm, my bad. Those two swing wing aircraft used the TF30.
The vast majority of B-57s had the J65.
Yes, that is correct. Photo and narration should have shown the J57-powered RB-57D model. Thanks for watching.
Great video. I enjoy seeing the plastic model kits that I liked as a kid. Just to clarify, wasn't the B-57 powered by a British derived engine, the J-65? I think those long winged models had TF-33's and apparently, some are still in use.
Yes, good catch. Original Martin B-57Bs were powered by J65s, and WB-57Fs had the TF-33. However, the first long-wingspan RB-57D models were equipped with P&W J57s, and I should have clarified that. Thanks for watching!
The North American Aviation Museum in Gander, Newfoundland has an example of the RCAF version of the F-101 interceptor. Unfortunately, it's an outside exhibit and the engines (and most everything else) have been removed.
8:09 Ohhh, God, the J40. How can one company get an engine (the J57) so right while another gets theirs (the J40) so wrong?
at 3:44 the J47 was a General Electric engine, not PW
Good catch - it was a typo. Supposed to be "Pratt & Whitney J48." Thanks for watching.
The B-57 only used the J-65 engine, while the WB -57 used TF-33s.
Should have clarified that the original long-wingspan WB-57D was powered by P&W J57 turbojets.
It’s very interesting that the “same” engine was used in military and civilian aircraft. I wonder if any modern civilian engines are derived from a military engine.
Great question, and a good example would be the Rolls-Royce bizjet engines currently being retrofitted to the Boeing B-52J. Thanks for watching!
The Maartin B-57 was powered by the J-65
Should have clarified it was the original long-wingspan WB-57D powered by P&W J57 turbojets.
Mike, pardon my ignorance but what is the difference between a turbo fan and a turbo jet?
Good question! A "turbojet" is a straight turbine engine, while a "turbofan" has a turbojet core with a larger set of turbine blades at the front or rear to augment thrust. As an added bonus, the shroud of cool fan exhaust surrounds the hotter core jet exhaust which reduces noise significantly. Thanks for watching!
I had my share of working them at Minot,a P59 variant & I worked on one with a Ford data plate once. And to those punk f--k's from Castle sending us high time motors ,we hated yall.
Yes, but is the jet engine _painted red_ ?
_Well, I guess it is red on the_ inside.
*:-)*
The TR2 / U2 at NASA Ames had a blue stripe. What is with the orange stripe shown? Is that really NASA?
Yes, different NASA color schemes depending on the year. I took that photo at an Edwards Air Show in the late-1970s. Blue stripe scheme was 1990s.
So how is it that a 2 spool jet engine can be classified as turbojet?
has no bypass
Mike, why don't you show yourself painting? U could auction the result off.
Has Rolls Royce always made aircraft engines?
Good question, and yes, they built the legendary Rolls Royce Merlin engine that powered 1930s racing airplanes, and the World War II P-51 Mustang and Supermarine Spitfire. Thanks for watching!
@@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 thanks for answering!
Do people still build models? I haven't done it in years. And I don't see hobby shops any more of these days.
The last model I built was in 2019 of the Saturn V, on 50 year anniversary of the first Moon landing.
Actually, wasn't the first American jet bomber the North American B45 Tornado?