Patrick Mahomes is Becoming the Biggest Threat Facing the League | THE ODD COUPLE
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- THE ODD COUPLE - Chris Broussard & Rob Parker discuss what to make of Patrick Mahomes, who is now growing into the biggest threat facing all teams going forward as he continues to collect Super Bowl victories.
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Brou picked against the Chiefs in every playoff game outside the Dolphins. When Brou should be eating crow, he's taking credit for claiming Mahomes is MJ. SMDH
lol but he been said mahomes was Jordan esc that’s why
@@newportpiston then he shouldn't have picked against him the last three to four years in a row now.
@newportpiston Jordan-esque*
mahomes just officially became the goat
@@Be.authentic_ ?? lol what type of logic is that
Notice ALL media keeps say "MJ of this era" and not LeBron. Very telling.
Hahahahaha all media is old ass men who can't let go..give it 15 years
@@musik4u343 that was said 10 years ago literally but ok if you say so.
@theblacksun3 no it wasn't. Go home
Yeah bc universally jordan is seen as the goat. Lebron fans can cry and make excuses all they want but it's the reality
Because these are the same dinosaurs that's been riding MJ's d. So what do you expect?
Rob Parker is hating on mahomes. He has had plenty of signature moments.
Mahomes has 3 double digit Super Bowl comebacks before the age of 30. 1 interception in the playoffs the past 2 YEARS! He’s going to continue to break the hearts of fans around the country. Buddy really like that. He’s never had to play perfect to be better than the other QB he’s playing in the biggest moments
Fake comebacks. Dude is chosen like Brady
@@kungfufemafam9216Lmao 😂😂😂😂😂
Mahomes is not a great quarterback! He’s a good quarterback, but he’s not great… There is a lot of reasons why the Chiefs are winning Super Bowls. Mahomes is a small piece of that puzzle.
The fact somebody would compare Mahomes to Jordan is completely & obscenely ridiculous! Mahomes isn’t even the best quarterback in the NFL. How the hell would you compare him to Jordan? and as far as Mahomes, being the goat, that will never happen he’s not that guy.… Patrick Mahomes is not him, he will never be the goat
@@wadewilson-xi1zsgotta be a troll
The other day Rob said they not a dynasty
But you picked Purdy to win Chris....Would you have picked against Prime Jordan?
Jordan was that after the fact.
My answer to this is he thought the niners were the bad boy pistons who beat jordan a few times
Jordan actually played well in championship games. Mahomes was bad yet again and needed a Myriad of mistakes from the 49ers to win.
@@oblivionpro69people want to say that Tom Brady won all those games,.... A LOT has to go right to win all those games, don't fool yourself, or anybody else into thinking he alone won those games
@@oblivionpro69 his efficiency against the jazz and the Sonics was horrid so that's not true and against the lakers cooper and worthy didn't play cuz of injury so ofc he went off dude didn't get to play the lakers best defender
Patrick Mahomes is the comback king this is not his first rodeo ...
This is what I think sets brady and mahomes apart from other qbs.
@@TheMegatron673 I agree
@@fredrickprice2037 I've seen brady do a lot in 2 minutes when I thought the game was over. That's when I started believing if brady and mahomes has time they can make something happen.
Brou is such a flip flopper he picked the 9ers to win
15 has improved every single season.
Facts
Mahomes is like when Anakin Skywalker turned into Darth Vader, it's going to probably be about 10 or 15 years b4 a QB can knock him off his throne. Dude has shown he can literally win with anyone once he has Andy Reid, Travis Kelce and Chris Jones. It's honestly just beautiful to watch.
Mahomes like Jordan defeat his opponents psychologically he literally put the fear of God in his Opponents and he make QBs,& Coordinators make uncharacteristic mistakes both Ravens and Niners are running teams and the thought of Mahomes getting back on the field and scoring in a flash had them abandoning the run going for a knock out blow trying to passing the ball falling in the hands of the Chiefs defense it’s like Mahomes is psychologically The 12th men defense
Mahomes lost in the superbowl already he ain't jordan
jordan won in 6 finals but played 15 years so he lost in 9 years. @@otisyoungblood
@@otisyoungblood football do have more variables than basketball it’s certain things was out his control he lost all his starting Offensive Line a week before the Super Bowl that’s like Jordan losing Pippen, Rodman, Harper and rest of his starting lineup entering the finals going the Jazz
That’s a good point. I see that. Sometimes you can lose without even playing. Good insight
@@donkashaveliI agree. That’s a good point. The offensive was decimated.
I'm glad Jordan is getting his due respect tell Bron fans sit down
If Mahomes is "Jordanesque", why does Chris pick against him every year. Jordan never lost in the finals, but Brou expects Mahomes to be beaten in the SB every year. Let's see what happens next year.
For TV purposes. Not giving him an excuse, but those show don’t work if everyone is on the same page.
Agreed
Jordan lost his first 6-7 years.
@@commodorezero Therefore, in terms of winning, Mahomes is not Jordanesque at all. He is much better.
And Chris is a poor prognosticator.
Rob is so transparent
3:04 Yet Chris picked the 49ers to win tho 🤨. Just tired of Brou and his playing of both sides
I say this all the time every video an I get killed 😂😂😂😂 it's so obvious
Football is different from basketball. It’s one and done in the NFL and in basketball it’s a 7 game series. He is giving an equivalent.Your opinion can change based on what you see. He already had that opinion.
That’s what Rob be saying bout him😂
@@stanleymadu382 no my thing is hes felt that way ever since Mahomes got his first SB and has been adamant ever since. And if he truly feels this why didnt he pick the Chiefs to win this SB?
The biggest flip flopper. 😂
Everyone knew Jordan was going to be the goat... The og's were during on court interviews with him at the playground as he would walk with them as he took in game as they spoke.. He took in the wisdom and was respectful.. Jordan was like no other pro
Facts nuff said I saw it all as a child
Stop he lost already pick another player MJ was 6-0
Jordan was drafted in 1984, ge was getting punched in the mouth by the Celtics and Pistons until they aged out and they got Rodman and Pippen and the league got watered down due to expansion.
@@HitsTownUSA if they had to do all that to beat him and make Jordan rules what does that say about your statement...
Rob Parker saying Mahomes never had a signature moment in the Superbowl before then?
Wasp in 54. Long scramble last year against the Eagles late.
Mahomes is the ultimate hindsight QB for the media. At every stage they’ve criticized him or doubted him to immediately flip after proven wrong. It started from the immediate dumping for ever picking him, then to transitioning to him, then he can’t keep playing great now that there’s film, he doesn’t care about winning when he signed his contract, he’s been figured out in 2021, he can’t keep it up without Tyreek, and asking if he can win on the road. Some of the doubts were valid (draft, quick transition, and the contract) but the others weren’t if they ever thought he was the MJ of his era. It’d be nice if they’d own the initial doubts once in awhile and that be proved them wrong instead of constantly pretending that they haven’t thrown a doubt or hedged their bets ar every possible stage before singing praise once he proves it wrong while they pretend they knew all along that he’d do it.
Mahomes is going to dominate for years to come if the chiefs continue to give him a defense.
Well yeah. That helps! It takes a village!
Mahomes getting the Tom Brady treatment. 11 total penalties in AFC championship 8 was on the ravens but you ignored those numbers
@@ritewaypoolsandspas8965go cry in the corner
@@ritewaypoolsandspas8965ravens are not allowed talk anything football until y’all get a real quarterback
Shutup crying
Since 2001, there have been 125 drives in the NFL Postseason where it was at least the 4th Qtr w/ the offense trailing by seven points or fewer at the start.
Of those 125 drives, only 40% of them were successful.
Patrick Mahomes is 7/7 on these drives.
That's nice!😂
Although these playoff games were close in score, never assume Mahomes couldn't have turned up the heat and went ballistic to close the score, if need be.
Chris finally hit the nail on the head. Teams aren’t saying running isn’t important to winning. They are saying you can easily replace 90% of a RBs production with another one (in the draft or elsewhere).
And that's the problem backups can run, but big time players make big time plays.
3-Peat = 🐐
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Honestly there was no shame losing to that Brady Bucs team. They were all in their primes on offense and defense and Brady was what they needed to get them over that hump. That 2020 KC team they smoked was maybe the best Chiefs team of all time too. 14-1 when the starters played.
Mahomes missed his O-line though, 4/5 starters. I don’t think he loses with his O-line there.
All this and you picked SF
He’s Michael Jordan yall keep whining the comments 😂
Nobody was calling brady the goat in 2007 chris
I think the ATL comeback solidified it for Brady.
@chrismoneystl Ima peyton guy, but I agree
@@donmoore5340 I’m a Peyton guy too. I hated Brady. I still had Peyton over him until the ATL SB.
Why does Chris want credit for the Jordan comment so bad 😂😂
When every year including this year he picked against him the entire playoffs. He gets no credit from me. He didn't hang with him in the bad times but wants credit like he always did.
I wish Brou just rode with Mahomes and picked him
Bruh quit backtracking u picked against the chiefs in the playoffs and superbowl. U thought purdy was going to beat mahones in the superbowl . Why do talk great about mahomes then pick against him. U are the biggest flip flopper. Chiefs kingdom
You can pick against a player’s team and still think he’s the best player. Like LeBron vs the warriors or Spurs. LeBron was the best player but his team was not better .
@@WxxdBxy we keep winning yet he keeps against us I don't understand his thinking. We go to superbowls yet he picks against us. He raves about mahomes but mahomes didn't win all these games by himself.
@@harmon7896His thinking is that no one wins them all. Even Brady lost three of them
@@RIPToriyamaDBZ I think brady is the greatest qb of all time but I know he didnt win all those superbowls by himself .
@@harmon7896 ok sure. But you asked why someone would say Patrick is Jordan-esque yet pick against him. That's why because no one wins them all
Brou just has really horrible logic when he picked games. "they cant win them all" yeah but when the team has a high win % you bet with it. That is like saying you want to go with the 30% chance instead of the 70% chance because you have shown to lose before
Jordan Never Lost in the finals..
He lost game one twice (in 91 & in 98)......mahomes can't lose a game in the playoffs .....
But he got swept before the finals a few times
So did Brady 3 times
@@goodsbys0120yes his rookie years…when he had not no help vs the legendary Bird Celtics team….context matters
Didn’t this dude pick against the Chiefs the whole playoffs? What kind of tricky is this .. him now taking credit ..
it's kinda like: "I Won't BELIEVE it, until I SEE it"! ... BUT, WHEN they see it... THEY DON'T "BELIEVE" it😮
Patrick Mahomes Will be the Greatest of all Time its Inevitable. I just hope he gets Paid Rightfully though
I hope Kansas city will do right by him, he's team oriented, not like Dak Prescott not giving a hometown discount to the Boys, just greedy and got Jerry throwing good money after bad. The Houston Texans only needed one receiver to become contenders. Cowboy Critics say they put too much pressure on him because they expect him to take them deep into the playoffs . Dak may juice Jerry long enough to retire, he's close (going into his ninth year.
KC has the best play calling in the league by a mile, best big game receiver in Kelce, and now the best defense, but all the credit goes to Mahomes, who honestly played a mediocre game at best.
Their wrs are average at best, also playing against one of the top DLine in the NFL. And Passing for 300ys is mediocre? Thats better than half of the SB that Brady has done. Somehow Brady score 12pts in SB and hes the GOAT.
They've all gotten credit too
He had 400 totals yards 2 TDs and over 70% completion how is that mediocre at best?
It was a great team win imo.
@@tigera6 Eli Manning gets 100% of the credit for his Superbowls, but he was carried by Defense
I like Chris Broussard but he was wrong about Mahomes & the Chiefs this year. As Bernie Mac said, “He is supposed to be eating crow, instead of feeding us bull!!”
Script said kick it low. You never kick it that low in XP
Chris’ so called Mahomes’ pace doesn’t mean it will happen because it doesn’t mean it will happen because he is telling all the IF’s. Mahomes needed to be compared to Bradshaw and Montana first before getting to Brady.
I dont remember Mahomes losing in the first round of the playoffs multiple years like Jordan...
🔥
Mahomes said Kobe is his favorite player.
Rob….you say Tom is the goat….didnt he take advantage of teams playing dumb? (Eagles) Andy Reid didn’t go into 2 min offense pace when down two scores with time winding down. Seahawks threw on the 1 yard line instead of running with beast mode. Falcons kept throwing the ball when they were up 28-3.
Rob, stop the back handed compliments for Mahomes. Just admit you were DEAD wrong about Mahomes 😂 this dude is clutch when his team needs him most.
No pundits, save Shannon Sharpe are comparing Mahomes to LeBron. Let that sink in.
Looking at the comments it seems like Brou is taking a lot of heat but I don't think he's ever wavered from his thoughts. He's never said anyone is better than Mahomes but there are a lot of guys that go into winning a football game and most people were picking the 9ers. Chiefs were underdogs the last three games and the Vegas odds makers aren't stupid. The line didn't change much which means most people were betting 9ers. It's okay to believe Mahomes is the best and still think they're gonna lose but no doubt it's gonna get harder and harder to bet against him. Will be interesting to see what he says next season.
I was wrong Rob You're much better in this take
Hey Rob Parker, I'm old and seen a LOT of football too!!! And my eyes tell me NO ONE in NFL history (including old AFL) has played this game or been successful in FIRST 6 YEARS PLAYING like PM II. NO ONE!!!! Now, give the 28 year old his rightful props. Wait 10-15 years (barring any unseen injuries) and see if he gets the hardware needed for the GOAT talk. NONETHELESS, regardless whether he gets more rings or not, PM II is THE GREATEST I HAVE EVER SEEN to play QB in my 60 years of watching professional football. Period. Full stop.
And you're entitled to your opinion!😂
That Falcons game was the clincher for me, for Brady. I thought the Pats were done, and was already celebrating.
Then the second half started.
If you're on the other side against MJ you'll gonna be nervous of him with the ball in crucial or last possession. Mahomes is so much like that.
The concept of football hasnt change in over 100yrs, you win games in the trenches and running the ball.......it is so crazy how this league have devalued the RB position to justify over paying these QBs of which 90% of them havent won anything for their teams!!!!!
Stop it. Dude struggled to 17 against the Ravens, and then the Chiefs picked off Lamar. For two seasons the defence has carried the Chiefs.
I can't say it enough. Football is offense, defense, special teams and coaching decisions. All of which can have an direct impact on winning or losing despite what your QB does or doesn't do on the field. Did Brock Purdy play well enough to win the Superbowl? Probably. But what ultimately cost San Francisco the Superbowl? Poor coaching decisions. While Andy Reid made smart coaching decisions plus Pat Mahomes made all the plays he needed to make when it counted most.
I agree but i also think if your QB does a few special things late it can make the rest irrelevant but im not gonna kill purdy for missing throws that Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson also couldnt make against this defense
@@marklumar2034 I get it Purdy could have played a little better. But I don't believe that's what ultimately cost San Francisco the game. I also agree that Pat Mahomes made big plays when he needed to make them. But Andy Reid coaching decisions made it easier for him to engage in his late game heroics.
I agree with most of what you said, but I disagree about the reason they lost. The 49ers lost the game due to special teams because their plays directly impacted the scoreboard. The live ball recovery on the punt late in the 3rd qtr enabled an anemic Chiefs offense to go into the 4th qtr with a 13-10 lead after a quick TD pass after the turnover. The 49ers would have had the ball with a 10-6 lead going into the 4th, but found themselves down. They then quickly scored a TD themselves to take a 17-13....oh wait! That's right, the Chiefs blocked the EP which kept them within 3 pts at 16-13.
Those two plays allowed the Chiefs to only need FGs and not TDs in the 4th to stay alive and not be pressured to score 7. The OT decision to take the ball was 100% the right decision by Kyle because his offense was moving the ball on the Chiefs late and his defense was just out there when the Chiefs tied the game. People overlook the fact that his team got down to the 8 yd line and a blown O-line assignment led to Jones pressuring Purdy where he missed the throw to Jennings (which would have likely been a TD). Both teams made mistakes and both coaches made decisions that some people wouldn't like. However, it was the Chiefs special teams that truly decided the game.
And no, Purdy did not play well enough to win. If he had, the 49ers would have won the game. The Chiefs defense is legit and has been all year, including in the playoffs, so it was a tough task in front of the 49ers offense. Brock played well enough to not cost them the game, but he didn't make any plays that impacted the game like he has before. The one opportunity in OT was his moment and he failed. Yeah, Jones was unblocked, but Purdy got the ball out and overthrew Jennings. He didn't handle the pressure and put the ball where it needed to be, and we don't have to make excuses for him because he isn't "Mr. Irrelevant" anymore.
He is THE GUY at SF and people are taking assessments of him way left. He is a good QB, but not great. The weapons around him and the scheme allow him to lean on his strengths without having to do too much, and there is nothing wrong with that. He will only get better.
@@parawill7074 we can agree to disagree. Prudy played well enough to give San Francisco the lead. But again football is a team sport. Despite what everyone thinks. Your QB doesn't always have to put put up great numbers for your team to win. Your defense, special teams and coaching decisions can help your QB as well. So if your HC didn't know that the overtime rules changed. Do you think that coaching blunder helped or hurt Brock Purdy? I personally believe we've become to accustomed to always blaming or giving the QB all of the credit. That we overlook the game within the game.
Why is Chris sharing this info about Patrick Mahomes to Rob Parker when he believes Eli Manning is a better money quarterback in Super Bowl games than Patrick Mahomes!
😂🤣😂🤣😭
Yes, and even as you look thriught three damn comments... the audacious omission of not mentioning Adam Vinateri and him being one of the best Kickers of all time, if not the best.. I lived through it, they spoke facts on what it was then, because before he won again for the fourth time and lost to Eli twice, the talk was about Manning, Brees and Rodgers when he won his first so quick.. but TBR Kurt Warner is the GOAT QB, end of story..
Mahomes is what I thought A Rod was going to be. Rodgers with only 1 SB with his talent, is a little disappointing.
Once again, Chris and Rob are having REVISIONIST HISTORY with Brady's p
In Brady 2nd sb he threw for 354 yards 3 touchdowns , the defense gave up 19 points in the 4th quarter & his kicker had already missed a fg and a xtra pt . That was all Brady Ask teddi bruschi he said that’s when he knew Brady was special because they could not stop the panthers in the 2nd half
All I know is that somebody needs to step up to the plate. I think Patrick Mahomes is absolutely phenomenal without question. He has proven himself time after time. That being said the rest of the league should be embarrassed. The top teams or what is perceived as either look completely unprepared going against The Chiefs or they beat themselves. With a player like Mahomes you cannot allow him any opportunity to beat you. The fact that Brady was only 1 of 2 guys to beat this team and he was at the tail end of his career tells you all you need to know about the current competition landscape. Whether its coaching or the moment is too big for some players you gotta step up. If they dont then Mahomes will continue to overwhelm the rest of the league.
Exactly right. The punt "fumble" unequivocally, 100% lost San Francisco the game. Idk why more people won't say so. Players make mistakes, but that type of asinine mistake is unacceptable. That stuff will guarantee you a loss in abjg, close game. Mahomes was great at then end, but what's his name from the punt let his team down and blew it for everyone.
Why is it so tough to just give credit?
When you compare 2 players in two different era. The rules are way way different. Stop it
He’s in his KD era, there, fixed it
Lol he gonna make sure he keeps bringing up that Jordan comment, even though he keeps picking against the dude lol
Rob wants Eli Manning in the Super Bowl over Mahomes
Notice how no one said he’s in his lebron era lmao
Jordan did not lose championship games. However I get the point
“He’s Jordan-esque, he’s going to be the GOAT” but I didn’t bet on him to win? That’s hedging your bets if I’ve ever seen it because I know I never betted against Brady. It didn’t matter how athletic the other QB was
What team made zero mistakes and lost a playoff game? Like what are we talking about?
"The 49ers didn't put that much emphasis in their special teams"
They a have a Pro-Bowl punter and spent a 3rd round pick on a kicker. What more emphasis can you make? Not a 49ers fan, but I won't just let BS like this slide
beating the chiefs is like trying to beat your personal fastest lap in racing
I'm not even going to listen to this because I already know the haters on here Rob. I'm good
Football is a team sport like no other Mahomes has had hall of fame head coach , wide receiver, tight end, I think it’s so disrespectful to give one player all the credit.
Where was that “disrespectful” feeling when the people said Brady “won” all those SB and carry the team?
That coach and TE and WR were all in KC before Mahomes. And they were a decent team, but they didn't start dominating the league untill Mahomes became the starter. Thats why he gets majority (because no one gives him all of it) credit
Reid was 1-4 in the playoffs with the Chiefs before Mahomes. Mahomes is 15-3
Jordan was feared by his opponents Mahomes is just really like d
Not even close.
I gotta disagree with RB take cuz if you have a beast O line your fine. Thats where the war is won, i da trenches
Brady has more chips than MJ and dominated more than MJ so why isn't he the benchmark🧐
It's hilarious that he get all the credit and his defense that was top tier all playoffs gets nothing...Like he did it all alone is crazy, they should be praising the defense and that elite secondary they...Mahomes is absolutely great but they talk like he invented the NFL.
Mahomes is great but that D was the mvp.
Both were MVP's. You don't get another shot if the Defense doesn't hold the Niners to a FG, but you don't win the game if Mahomes doesn't have that final drive.
whats Right with Your Wrong... ABSOLUTELY NUTTEN"!
Nick Chubb’s absence from Cleveland was totally UNDERRATED and DEVASTATING.
It's kinda like your trying to "justify" YOUR WRONGS
Tony Romo’s coverage was disgusting, racist, and disrespectful to Patrick! Period
ANDY IS THE GOAT!! Bill B watch out.......Andy is on his way. Just look at the play calling !! It helps Pat!!
Mohames is the G.O.A.T. already.. he doesn't need 7 rings... he is better than BRADY.. Brady is just a pocket passer
Omg he’s not Brady so stop thinking he’s going to have the same run as him Pat is doing it his way geesh
Why these folks always play the game of what if????
Brou bet against them every playoff game so I’m confused???
Brou will turn into Skip Bayless if he keeps going like this. You can't always bet against Mahomes then jump on the band wagon once he wins.
I felt great about my prediction of a Chiefs win when these two picked the 49ers.
So, Broussard is just gonna ait here and pretend he didnt pick against them every round. Now he's gonna sit here and take credit for calling him "Jordan-esc?"
C'mon, homie.
I hate the GOAT debate already. Sure, Mahomes is my GOAT, but THE GOAT? Let a brotha win a few more before you have this talk!
Becoming? How about is?
That’s ridiculous nobody ever said Jordan had to get to 12 to become the goat we just watched and we it was obvious we crowned him Mahomes is a far better QB it’s like Montana and Rodgers had a baby
Stop coming to the comments crying bro, enjoy the show
MahomeBoy is the GOAT
So who is Lebronesque? Dak? 😂
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Why do people always compare football to basketball 🙄 you know pat is not playing defense getting stops then playing offense then returning punts it’s a team game pat needs everyone to do there job but sport talk just acts like it’s all him but basketball one player does make all the difference stop comparing the sports it’s dumb already
Jordan era?? Why they didn’t say lebron era or he is the lebron of the NFL ? Lol
Refs are biggest threat facing the League. Games can't be officiated properly. How about that pass interference against San Fran in End Zone when defender thought he was a receiver & just tried to catch ball all over receiver--not called.
OK Rob, keep cherry-picking Pat's stats that support your asinine hot takes - 7 TD's and 5 INTs in the Super bowls! Yeah, that 7th TD makes him *4th all-time* surpassing Kurt Werner and Steve Young in just his 6th year as a starter - his 41 playoff TD passes makes him the youngest to ever do it and *6th* all-time in his *6th* year as a starter. Every time he steps on the field, he ruins the records of those old farts that you so desperately cling to - leave the role of contrarian to Skip Bayless - at least he's good at it.
Once again Chris and Rob are having REVISIONIST HISTORY when it comes to Brady! Let me set the record straight, this MYTH that the defense carried Brady for the first 3 Super Bowls is comical! The defense carried Brady in the first SuperBowl because of SPYGATE! They CONVIENTLY leave that out! The 2nd Super Bowl against the Panthers Brady threw for over 300yrds and 3tds! But that's the definition of the defense carrying Brady!😂 In the 2004 AFC Championship game against the Steelers #1 ranked defense, Brady put up 42pts! While the defense gave up 31pts! Again, thats the definition of the defense carrying Brady!😂 People are DESPERATE for the change of the guard!😂
if he 3peats its Over and I dont want to hear anything else.