DIY NVME CF Express Card | Make Your Own CF Express Card | Budget CF Express Type B Card for Cameras
Vložit
- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- WD M.2 NVME 👉 s.click.aliexp... JEYI Enclosure 👉 s.click.aliexp... Other CF Express Enclosures 👉 amzn.to/3ETqpJD Other M.2 2230 NVME Drives 👉 amzn.to/3PTR27Q In this video, we look at how to build a CF Express card for a camera at a fraction of the cost of an off-the-shelf card using an NVME SSD drive and enclosure.
If you want to find out more about the Panasonic GH6, please subscribe for more content.
Please note that the links in this description are affiliate links, you will not pay more for the product but I will make a small commission on the sale which helps me to create more content.
Camera
Panasonic GH6 - amzn.to/3rdYsWy
Panasonic GH6 (Wex) - tidd.ly/3CfK9VC
Supported SSD Drives for the Panasonic GH6 | Sandisk Extreme E61 amzn.to/3fgYxpz | Sandisk Extreme E81 amzn.to/3LGcQzR | Samsung T5 amzn.to/3xJ3Ows | Samsung T7 Shield SSD Drive (under verification) - amzn.to/3y1Cz06 (Up to 2TB supported)
SSD Holders - SmallRig amzn.to/3R7QdFu | MagicRig s.click.aliexp... | SmallRig Universal holder amzn.to/3xQje1P | 3rd Party amzn.to/3xLxIjC
SSD USB C cable - amzn.to/3C666s6
Storage Cards
CF Express Type B Cards - amzn.to/3Jpqip5
SD Cards - amzn.to/3Ktf4Bn
Recommended storage cards can be found here - av.jpn.support...
CF Express Type B Card Readers (Make sure it is Type B compatible)
amzn.to/38yNKUd
Variable ND Filters
amzn.to/3jey62f
Panasonic GH6 Batteries 🔋
amzn.to/3xa2Idu
Panasonic GH6 Cage (always check compatibility - GH5/5s cages will not fit) - amzn.to/3xhfTJy
External Monitors / Recorders
Atomos Ninja V 4K up to 60fps (Currently on sale) - amzn.to/38lIfbD
Atomos Ninja V+ 4K up to 120fps (Currently on sale) - amzn.to/3wTBPtS
External Microphone
amzn.to/3xdcYli
Micro Four Thirds Lenses
amzn.to/3JrEduI
Stock Audio
Artlist (2 months FREE) - bit.ly/3iiRsmg
Track Club (2 months FREE) - trackclub.com/...
Audiio (Save 70% with code SAVE70) audiio.com/par...
Stock Video
Artgrid (2 months FREE) - bit.ly/3KQ06VP
MotionArray (Save $50 on the annual plan) - bit.ly/3KKBtJW
Flicker and noise reduction
www.neatvideo....
topazlabs.com/...
Support The Channel
If you have found this content useful and would like to support my channel to allow me to keep offering free content then please consider using Super Thanks, my affiliate links, buying me a coffee ☕ www.buymeacoff... or donating using Paypal here 👉 www.paypal.com...
#nvme #2230 #cfexpress
Great solution! Just followed your recommendation and have done exactly the same. Works perfectly. As the case is effectively utilitarian, I think I'll abbrade (cross-hatch pattern) the front and back surfaces at the 'gripping end' edge surfaces, just to make extraction that bit easier. A diamond etcher will suffice or even a steel craft blade - as the case is just aluminium.
I little word of warning the NVME card I bought was a 'generic brand' version, and the circuit board at the electrical contacts end was about 1 millimetre too long - so I carefully emery paper'd the end down to the gold contacts by about that amount - careful to keep the card contacts edge absolutely flat to the sanding board(!). It then fitted fine in the case and flush at the external contacts edge.
Great to hear you got it working and managed to get around those hurdles. That sounds like a really good idea for the grip, thanks for sharing 👍
Hi Steven - I didn't even know this was a possibility. I'm a GH6 user too, so I always appreciate your videos!
Thanks, it's great to hear you are finding them useful 👍
I bought this memory card. Works fine. It goes in and out of the memory slot easily, just like the original one. When entering, it catches a little on something, but everything is fine.
Good to hear you it's working well for you 👍
Thanks Steven! This is something that I only heard about, and I thought about, but I did not know how real it was. Very interesting solution!
No problem, yeah its an interesting option. I must say I was sceptical but so far it is holding up really well.
I was also skeptical about it, until my former student told me that he and two of his partners shoot a lot with five cameras almost every day. And through various experiments, they came to the point that now all their cameras have SSD adapters instead of SD cards. And it started with the fact that two branded sf express died in them one after the other. And they learned that there is a cheap type of memory and a decent controller. So they tried the SSD adapter and are still satisfied.
@@olesbadio1496 That's interesting to hear that the external solution is actually more reliable than standard cards. As I mentioned, I am getting good results out of the NVMe card so far, I shot 4 and half hours of footage on it the other day in 5.7k and it handled it with no issues.
Hello, thanks for the video. I would like to know if the card gets too hot.
Hi, no problem. It does get hot after long intervals of filming but so do all of my branded off the shelf cards. CF Express cards do tend to just run a bit hot. They actually have a new version of this case now which supposedly has better heat dissipation.
Hi Steven, thank you for this information. I created a similar ssd last year using and Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 1TD drive enclosed in Trebleet m.2 enclosure and it has worked very well for me. Write at 2100 MBS/S and read about 2300 MB/S. This is an external SSD and it does get rather warm. I was not aware that such a NVMe and CF adapter does exist. My only concern would be with the heat generated . Please keep me informed of your experience with this new 1 TB CF express card.
That sounds like a nice external drive. I have been looking at some different external NVME cases to potentially use with my camera. I actually find my off-the-shelf CF Express cards tend to get very hot, so I expect this to be no different. I'll keep testing it though and see how it holds up in comparison.
I like the idea of this, Might try this soon.
Certainly a good budget option when compared to off-the-shelf options, especially at the bigger sizes. If it holds up in terms of reliability then it's certainly worth the time and effort.
@@stevelitton Looking to do 1tb one for under £120 thats with a SABRENT 2230 M.2 NVMe Gen 4 1TB SSD 4750MB/s
I did look into those, they look decent.
@@stevelitton Just did the Sabrent one and the case i got from Amazon was the same as the one you used. 1TB is saying 7h34m on 5.7 420/10-L 50.00p
@@PeaceDroneAerialVideo Nice 😎
This was fun little project to see, but I have to say I wouldn't use these type of self made cards. Price of a branded memory card can be steep but if you are shooting anything commercially, usually the reliability of the card and the actual content is far more precious than the price of the memory card. Not to mention possibility to damage your camera body too... If you need a lot of cheap memory just use SSD instead...
That is completely understandable, it would be risky for paid work. I think to be honest this will mostly be used when I am just doing my own little personal projects. I quite often like to have the camera stripped right down, so it lends itself well to that. Luckily I do have a few brand name cards and plenty of SSD drives ready to go when I need them.
I've had similar home-built cards for about 2 years now. About 88,000 exposures, with zero failures. I used 256Mb SSDa,, about £60 each.
That's good to hear, looking forward to giving it a good test.
Hi, have you tried to fill it ? 8k60. Mine gives error when 50-60% full. The writing speed drops a lot.
I have filled it but my camera is only capable of 5.7k60 and it seems to handle that alright. Is the card getting very hot?
It is not overheating. If you are using GH6 5.7k60, it has 300 Mbps bitrate. My Z8 8K60 has 5780Mbps. Bitrate.. Actually your bitrate could probably work with fast SD card 😃
@@badger-kr9nr Yeah that's pretty intensive usage. Maybe, I wouldn't be getting a 1TB V90 SD card for under £100 though 🙂
Hi. I have sn740 card. when i connect cardreader to computer it doesn't see it. On the other hand with the original card there is no problem.
That's odd, so it works in the camera but isn't picked up by the card reader? Does the card reader definitely support type b cards?
Hello friend, can you tell me if this works for my Fujifilm X-H2 camera (if someone has tested it and is reading this comment it would help a lot)
The Fuji XH2S is down on the compatibility list for the card enclosure. But I use it with the GH6 and that isn't on the list so it's not comprehensive. Hopefully someone will have tried it and can confirm if it works. Technically it should work for anything that supports CF Express Type B cards.
Great video Steven, however I have just tried this on my GH6 and after I put the DIY CF Express card in my camera and turn it on the camera completely locks up. The screen comes on, none of the buttons work and the only way to get it to turn off is to remove the battery.
Can I ask which firmware version you are using please? I have updated to version 2.5 recently and am wondering if this is the problem.
Also, I don't have any "real" CF Express cards to try in the camera as it could be that there is a fault with the slot on the camera itself. The SD card slot works fine. Puzzling ?????
Can anyone else through any light on the problem. Thanks.
Oh no, that's no good. I can confirm that I am using version firmware version 2.5 and the card is still working. Out of interest are you using a stock Panasonic battery or a 3rd party battery? It could maybe be a difference in the CF Express case or the drive inside it.
Good news! I have now got a working CF express card adapter and GH6! It was the SSD (who knew that not all SSD's are the same despite identical specs). I got it working with a Toshiba(Kioxia) 256GB PCIe NVMe 2230 SSD (KBG40ZNS256G) from Amazon. Now that I know it works I might buy another but this time with a bigger SSD capacity. Thanks again.@@stevelitton
Great to hear you got it working! Yes some of the NVMe compatibility with the enclosures is a little confusing and not particularly well documented.
i believe that you apply the thermal grease on the wrong side....
I'll be honest its seems like an absolute minefield of information around this subject and none of it seems to align. I see some people say to remove the stickers, some saying that the stickers themselves have thermal properties. Some people say to put paste over the stickers, some say to apply it to the back of the drive and some say to not apply any at all. It seems to be working the way I have applied it and not overheating, even after 4.5 hours of filming. But I am not saying it is right 🤷 I would be interested to know how you would have done it though.
@@stevelitton Do not need to remove the sticker as it is also a heat spreader that looks like a "sticker". You need to apply thermal pad or grease on top of the "sticker" to make contact with the aluminium casing. Bottom part of the PCBA do not have any component.
@@tembak88 thanks for the information. I may take it apart and apply some additional paste to the sticker 👍
Hello Steven,
an inexpensive solution. My question about heat dissipation. Can you do a test in the GH6 with several hours of continuous recording in a video mode with a very high write rate? I'm interested in whether it might stop in contrast to an original. Thanks
Hey, I haven't given it that much of a test yet, do you have a particular video mode in mind?
Yes. In August I took a continuous outdoor recording with the GH6 hours 10 minutes.
Ambient temperature 25 -28 degrees Celsiusand external power bank via USB-C
306GB on a SanDisc Exreme PRO 512GB 170Mb/s.
MOV 5760x4320 Anamoph 420/10bit/LongGop
There were no heat problems. It's interesting to me whether it would have been the same if
I had used slot 1 with "Your Own CF Express Card"@@stevelitton
Sorry, I think you missed the number for the hours out, if you let me know, I can give it a test and see if it is up to task. The temp here is a bit lower than that but it shouldn't make a great deal of difference.
4 h . 10 min @@stevelitton
@@Hans-Georg_Flack Thanks for confirming. Thats a pretty considerable recording time. Are we talking about using a power bank there or a V Mount battery?
Which card did you buy, SN740 or SN530?
There are different recording speeds.
And the JEYI CF-Express Type-B to 2230 NVMe M.2 SSD Adapter says that it only supports writing speed of 1800Mb/s and a reading speed of 1200Mb/s.
I got the 740, but you're right the card enclosure will bottleneck the read and write speeds. I just didn't want to go for the slower version as I already take those speeds with a pinch of salt.
@@stevelitton slower is actually better since it's cooler, as long as it saturates the bitrate of whatever it is you're shooting.
@@haploguy thanks, that's interesting to know, I will see how this SSD performs and if it does have heat issues maybe I will looks at the slower versions as an alternative.
There are a lot of fakes on this site. Try recording 1 TB of video on this card, this can be done through a card reader on a PC. And make sure that all this video will be played later. I came across the fact that Chinese memory cards either did not allow me to write the entire amount of memory on them or then they did not play these files.
I'll be giving it a good test over the next few weeks/months. So far, so good. Even if you get an iffy drive, you still have the adapter. So you can replace it pretty cheaply and still have a working card.
Before conducting commercial video shooting on this card, I would record 1 TB of any video on it and check how it plays on this card.@@stevelitton
@@lnuponom2678 Thanks for the advice, I will make sure to fill it up with some ProRes footage and see how it copes 👍
Why do you need thermal paste?
Supposed to just dissipate the heat a little better. Some come with little thermal pads rather than the paste. I would rather spend 5 minutes putting it on if it's going to keep the card a tiny bit cooler and offer slightly better performance.
Can we do this with type A cards?
Thats a good question, I did look for a type A adapter and couldn't find one when I was looking. Probably due to the speed difference between the two types. Thats not to say they don't exist, I just couldn't find one when I was looking. Some cameras that accept CF Express Type A cards will also accept CF Express Type B cards, so it is worth checking that.
Hello. How's your card? Works fine? Does it get hotter than official cards?
Hey, yeah its still working fine. It does get hot but I wouldn't say it gets any hotter than any other CF Express card I have.
@@stevelitton OEM Samsung 256GB M.2 PCI-e NVME SSD Internal Solid State Drive 30mm 2230
On Amazon this costs 18.45. What do you think about her?
That does seem like a good deal. I guess its all luck of the draw if you get a good unit. The same goes for branded drives though. I have mostly been using backup recording where possible with that card just in case it does fail. But it's working well so far.
@@stevelitton For some reason I don’t see what the write speed of this chip is.
I wanted to ask, is your external monitor 8 or 10 bit?
No sadly mine is 8-bit which is not ideal but I generally have a pretty good idea of what the footage will look like because I mostly shoot in the Natural profile or V Log.
@@stevelitton Is V Log noisy compared to the standard profile?
@@lnuponom2678 Depends on what ISO you shoot at. It can be using DR Boost. But I use DeNoise software anyway, so not too bothered.
@@stevelitton DeNoise software is this some kind of plugin? Take a video of how you remove noise.
@@lnuponom2678 Yeah it's just software, will do 👍
Does your card slide in and out of the camera easily?
No, it's not the best enclosure design, I covered that in the video. Its like is a mm or so thicker than a standard card and the finish of the card is very smooth making it hard to grip. You can get it out by hand but it is a bit of a hassle compared to an off-the-shelf card.
@@stevelitton How do you get it out of the camera? How do you do this?
@@lnuponom2678 Maybe I worded that wrong, I do just use my hand to remove it. It's just a bit fiddly.
@@stevelitton The main thing is that the memory card slot does not become worn out or break over time.
@@lnuponom2678 It seems to click in and out of the slot correctly it's just that last pull out of the slot. Seems fine so far but time will tell.
What NVME card would work for the D850?
I believe this adapter would work with the D850, you need a compatible NVMe 2230 to go inside it. The interface is the adapter, not the chip, so as long is it is compatible with the adapter it should work in theory.
@@stevelitton thanks pal..I think I found some decent ones on Ali Express
@@waseemhassam No problem, thats where I got mine from and it still seems to be working fine 👍