The History of Glitches That Broke Minish Cap Speedrunning
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- čas přidán 22. 04. 2024
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Minish Cap speedruns are completely broken since 2007, let's talk about the history of the glitches in the any% category
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Special Thanks:
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These TMC speedrunners/glitch hunters featured in this video:
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Resources:
TMC Speedrun Site:
sites.google.com/view/tmcspee...
Speedrun Leaderboard:
www.speedrun.com/tmc
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Music:
Minish Cap - Minish Village
Legend of Dragoon - Royal Castle
OneShot - On Little Cat Feet
FFX - Luca
PMD Red Rescue Team - Sky Tower
Waterworld - Map
Baba Is You - Water Is Sink
CrossCode - Autumn's Rise
Minish Cap - Temple of Droplets
dotHack Infection - Wasteland Field Normal
Sea of Stars - Traversing the Cerulean Expanse
Yu-Gi-Oh: Forbidden Memories - Egyptian Duel
Pokemon Colosseum - Pyrite Town
FFX - Time of Judgement
SMT V - World of Shadows - Hry
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I absolutely misread that as "basic Bowsers".
@@moogleboy All browsers are basic. Opera GX takes basic and puts it on steroids for some reason...
firefox better
I know you gotta get that sponsor money to pay the bills, but there are better things to sponsor than literal spyware. (no I'm not kidding)
@@JohnSmith-xv1tp also remember that time they embedded their vtuber stream in the browser to artificially inflate views. like what discord did but on purpose
Okay, but why are the skips enabled by the ocarina glitch not being referred to as Ocarina of Time-saves?
Because we aren't all as smart as you :/
The pedantic reason is probably because its the ocarina of wind and not time, but yeah thatd be a funny name for them
@@hankhill6404the purpose of the Ocarina of Wind is its ability of fast travel, the Ocarina of Time also has this ability... they could be the same ocarina.
@@elio7610 the ocarina of wind only summons a lil guy. The ocarina of time does more than just fast travel. Its like comparing a rotary phone to a smart phone.
@@hankhill6404it's the flute from ALTTP gives you fast travel duck
Edit: So I found out that Audacity was set to input audio at 66% of the volume for some reason, so that's why my voice was really low here. I also figured out how to EQ the mids at my speaking level, so I'll be fixing that for the next vid
Hey all, I know there's some issues with the audio. I'm in a new house and am trying to adjust my microphone levels accordingly, unfortunately balancing that with the music is weird, especially since my editing software tends to make some of the music I'm using not seem as loud as it actually is.
I can't fix it this time around, but we'll hone it in with the next video. Thanks for understanding
Don't stress it, dude! We LOVE your commentary and technical knowledge of the games you cover, and your obvious love for glitches, tricks, and optimisations of video games! Keep doing what you're doing and we'll always be here to watch!!
I notice without Loudness Equalization on, it isn't as bad.
You know your sponsored/promoted friends at "Op€ra" are literally, genuinely spyware right
I suggest trying Reaper rather than Audacity.
Even a free service like BandLab is going to be better than Audacity in my experience.
Tenacity is Audacity minus spyware fyi
I remember reading the Guinness Gamer records book in like 2009 and being amazed that my childhood game was beaten start to finish in about three hours at the time.
Also, 1:45 "the blacksmith Link is staying with" is his GRANDFATHER. Like Yugi Muto getting upset because they stole "his card dealer's" prized card (and soul).
Smith is Link's uncle
Nope, Smith is Link's grandfather. It's stated explicitly in game more than once.
Yooo CrossCode music! Always love to see it get recognition. Maybe one day we could see a Swellman CrossCode video?
Only time will tell!
It's from legend of dragoon originally. Don't disrespect the goat like that again.
I seen autumn rise and I turned it up a bit
We just found another 1 min timesaver, its a deathless version of Octo Clip that is a bit easier and much faster to retry. Because its deathless we can skip the extra bottle which is what saves the minute :D
I love games about being tiny, they're so nice and cozy!
(It's weird that it seems so cozy to be small in games but IRL being small is way more terrifying than being big)
Why hello, Legend of Dragoon, how nice to hear from you this day
Okay, but did they find an infinite shell glitch? Because I’d totally be okay with that.
Well... Technically that is kinda possible but, instead, for 100% there is an entire 40 min Figurine manip to get all the figurines with the collected shells during the run.
ooo im so excited for this
i love minish cap but have never seen a speedrun of it
hopefully there's some neat stuff!
that game is an absolute CLASSIC and severely underrated
underrated by who??? i always read praise of this game whenever it is mentioned, so i dont understand why some people claim it is underrated
@@raafmaatRight? I’m so tired of that word. It’s a good game, is that not enough? Do we have to make it a pissing contest or project our desire to be the underdog onto every little thing we love?
People are so scared to like popular things that if they actually like something popular, they’ll just.. pretend it isn’t popular. I mean, the same thing is happening with Twilight Princess, arguably the most popular Zelda game ever. Somehow it’s “underrated” despite every other GameFaqs and r/Zelda post being “Twilight Princess is underrated” because they weren’t alive when it was recent and BotW/TotK is simply what they’re most aware of because it’s all they’ve been around for. Even now, though, people will not shut up about it.
It’s not a bad game, although it’s definitely the first sign of a problem with Zelda and the formula getting stale, but it’s *not* underrated. Or overrated. Neither of those words mean anything anymore, if they did in the first place. It’s purely a fan pride thing and it needs to go away.
@@RenSakoI mean, honestly? Maybe this is anecdotal at best, but at least in my circle of friends, most of the people have heard about Minish Cap, but either have not played it yet, or haven't gotten very far. So it can very easily create the impression that something is underrated by that measure.
Is it actually underrated? I wouldn't know, nor would I care. But it would be easy enough to form that opinion with both Minish Cap and the Oracle games for me.
Dude this is so nostalgic, Minish Cap was the first Zelda I beat and it's so underrated.
Why does it feel like in every zelda game with an ocarina, theres always some major glitch involving it?
Ocarina + Bottle + Bomb = Triforce of Glitch
oooh I recognize Legend of Dragoon music so fast.... and its so precios
I had the exact same thing happen. I just... Haven't played that game in 13-ish years
Went to leave this same exact comment, I heard it and suddenly got the urge to replay it again 😭
Great video explaining the difference between routes (even tho some things are a little simplyfied 😅) love it and great job compiling all the info!
I think the best part of speedrunning isn't the fast play, or even the execution. For me, it's glitch discovery. Finding out new ways to interact with games is so gratifying, even if I can't execute them :^)
very awesome explanation again and thanks to all persons envolved with these glitchhunts, runs and incredible amount of time for research
5:50 topic of the vid starts, you’re welcome :)
This probably could go a lot more viral if you left out some bigger parts but I actually love this type of content, feels like a detailed documentary with lots of love put into it
Excellent video, the info and editing is fantastic. I also loved your pokemon videos. You definitely deserve more subscribers. Looking forward to future videos :)
A few years ago, i discovered a glitch using Jump Hack, where you can make Zelda follow you forever through the entire game til the end, does nothing beside that, but i found it cute
It's cool that you made this video in your own way. Recently I've seen so many summoning salt rip offs that seeing this video is refreshing
P.S. Baba Is You music is broken, soooo good for this kind of videos
12:58 I can't find this specific zeldalewd clip from toadswoot your talking about, do you have a link to it anywhere ?
Super cool dive! Thanks. :)
Gotta give props thanks for putting the sponsor at the start lol
Very interesting! Great work
Best kind of content on youtube
If I had time for the hobby, I know I would be way more interested in glitch hunting and breaking games than I would be in speedrunning. I break stuff all the time accidentally in games by just being indecisive and then ending up trying to do two things at the same time, etc.
Oh hell yeah, this is maybe the most charming Zelda game imo
I mean yeah, it's the next evolution of the tiny forest folk origin: even tinier forest folk origin!
The only glitch I remember was the stupid figurines minigame, where I got stuck with literally no chance to get the missing ones I needed for the full 100% completion, which locked me out of a piece of heart, and the sound test.
All thanks to that one figurine locked out from me with an odd of 0% to be pulled out with only a single mysterious shell.
Thats not a glitch, you were missing a flag to make the last figurine(s) available. If you haven't got all 136 figurines then you can continue to play the figurine game, but it will only let you win figurines for things you've encountered in the game so far, for example you can only get vaati figurines after you beat the game. It was showing 0% becuase there were no more figurines unlocked that were available to win, the one you were missing is likely to be the hermit on mt crenel as this is commonly missed, going to the cave with the hermit at the peak of mt crenel is all you need to do to set this flag and the game will be able to be beaten.
Completing the figurine game rewards you with the carlov medal and shells will no longer be optainable in the game. Go and talk to the guy sat outside the café and he will open the music house where you can get your last HP.
Yes this is absolutely the worst HP in any zelda game, and absolutely terrible game design.
You know you can use more than one at a time to increase the chances, right?
Eventually you need more than one shell for the odds...
No I think you don't get the situation.
I literally was locked out of completing the figurine collection because the game assumed I got everything, making the odd a 0% with only 1 shell, I could no longer put more to pull out the missing figurine.
I never understood why this happened, I had everything but 1 figurine missing due to this glitch.
I was actually playing with lowest and lowest odds on purpose to save on the shells, which is how the glitch happened in the first place, by dropping what was considered to be the last figurine out of the bunch, despite the fact that I had not everything up to that point.
I don't know if this was ever documented somewhere or if I was just really unlucky back then, it has been over 10 years at this point, and I no longer have the original cartridge that had the soft locked save game slot.
@@VinsCool Either you probably were able to get the percentage higher just using more figurines or you hadn't yet beaten the game, which unlocks some figurines. A glitch that locked you out of getting figurines just by continually playing the game would be known, I assume you were younger 10 years ago and there was less access to resources about the game, but I can almost assure you this was not a glitch
when i woke up today, i didnt expect youtube to recommend me a video that uses shreks onions as comparrison for the legend of zelda.
11:28 that song gives me flashbacks to the jerma bug eating doctor bit
Bug eating music :D
Yooo I'm on the screen!
the ocarina messes with time even in a game that it is not supposed to.
I was very surprised that I watched these 27 minutes in one sitting. Few content can captivate you for such a long time without distraction, but for some reason this one was able to
hoobity boobity
The LoD music is always appreciated ❤
One of the best GBA original games!
I used to race with MBRules. It was an awesome time.
I LOVE the music, but I think you upped the music balance. Makes it harder to hear what you're saying. Other than that great vid as always.
Edit: seems to be only for the first part where you have the Legend Of Dragoon palace music playing.
Appreciate the feedback. I keep trying to find a good balance of where you all can hear the music but also being loud enough to overpower it.
The problem lies with the original mixing of the tracks and their levels not being the same even though my editing software shows they are. I even went back a few times to lower the audio in some spots, but I guess I missed the LoD track haha
I'll keep working on this!
@@DoctorSwellman We're here to listen to you - you're the star. Keep the music subtle to prevent any silence but make sure the most important part is given centre stage. Your voice!
"if you had to speedrun minish cap, who would you go about it?"
idk by playing the game really fast?
My favorite Zelda and the only one I 100% despite the PAL glitch, then I checked glitches and discovered a world of wonders!
oneshot ost mentioned
2:00 Legend of the Dragoon music. second best game of all times after ff9
Does this mean we can skip that stupid Gachapon machine to get the Heart Piece early?
Legend of dragoon music spotted
Subbing for having minish cap content
Cool video :)
I still don't understand the issue with "spliced runs". It's fine if you want to make a separate category for them and linear runs, but why do so many speed runners demand they be labeled "fake" or "illegitimate "?
The problem isn’t with the fact that they’re done, it’s just that they’re submitted under false pretenses. Otherwise I think most are fine with it overall
@DoctorSwellman
Then why did you label them as fake and illegitimate in this video? Why not state they just didn't qualify as a Linear run?
@@addambelmont3050 The run was submitted to SDA as a single segment run. The player in question spliced footage together, which would be fine if it were a segmented run, but the person didn't submit it as such and lied to the community about it
The community very much views that 2005 run as illegitimate, the runner claimed it was recorded in one sitting but after review its clear that can't be the case and is very much cut and dry deception. Now we just use this run as a reference for what was known at the time and a demonstration of the strats.
Plenty of discussion has been had about this but it comes down to everyone being on a level playing field, if everyone agrees to do things in one sitting but you splice your best segments together and lie about it then thats clearly unfair cheating. If everyone agrees to put their best segments together and be open about it then there would be no issue, the issue comes from the dishonesty. We don't call TASes fake, because they are upfront and clearly identify themselves.
@myth1975
Once again, the context is not solely predicated on the specific run of Minish cap in question, but all splice runs in general.
nice video
Great video!
Another certified Swelly banger!
Your content makes my life better.
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Minish Cap is the goat.
I discovered your channel recently and i've been enjoying the videos mostly but one thing i notice is i get the feeling that you are reading the text too much and with a monotone voice(felt it more on the explaining the story of the game but even on the rest a bit). I know you need to read a text for these types of video but i think the way you did it made me feel a bit weird it felt more like you were reading explanations rather than explaining if that makes sense ?. The content is great tho and its obvious you worked hard for that vid.
just wanted to give my opinion on this to help you ! Not trying to be rude or anything i hope i was clear have a great day and keep going !
Cool video
Man, this is a cool video but the background music is way too loud. Especially the first 5 minutes is practically unwatchable because it’s loud and active, distracts from the commentary.
me when i recap the entire game to pad for time
neat
❤
wow fast
Vlack the goat
Leaving a comment here to help, before watching everything
My nigga with the legend of Dragoon ost 💣💣💣
Made for you and I?
Thank you being so kind Grace ful loving and all knowing all powerful help me with my proscnation my laziness swearing the help these people to better you amen
Was the run through of the game at the beginning really necessary?
Respectfully, does Zelda ever put out for Link? He did so much this time
Opera GX is spyware.
Source?
Or any justification at all
@@ryla22no you can't see the source code. I wonder why? Proprietary software is always untrustworthy because you can't know what the code is doing without seeing it.
@@josephbrandenburg4373if you really cared about privacy, you wouldn’t use the internet. If you’re choosing to not use Opera because it’s closed source then that’s fine, but it’s not like not using it means your data is safe.
>she
No
yes
@@Death-Sickle you can cope and seethe all you want but Y chromosome speaks. Now cry
Yoooo .hack music
OMG the legend of dragoon music though ❤️
Nothing to do with this video. Just wanted to say that CZcams is getting ballsy lately. Not just giving you two ads that you can skip through is enough anymore. Now they just give you the second ad to skip again. Tisk tisk tisk