Hornby Railwys R.758 Hymek and Liner Wagons
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- A look at the Hornby Railways R.758 Hymek in Rail Blue (c1970-76) along with a similar group of liner wagons shown on page 20 of the 1070 Tri-ang Hornby Catalogue
R.633 Freightliner (c1967-74), R.632 Open Containers (c1969-71) R.634 Pickford’s / Containerway (c1969-70), R.635 BP Chemicals (c1969-73), R.637 Harold Wood Bulk Powder (c1969-73), R719 Sainsbury / Ford (c1969-73), R.677 Manchester / Fyffes (c1969-71) and R.678 x3 Assorted (c1970-71). All dates are approximate Music Source / Royalty-free Apple loops/Looperman.com
Dear Oscar, thank you so much for the presentaton and your wonderfull videos. i collect some off the triang hornby modells by myself and i love them in the same way you do. your track layout is beautifull and for me it is so much fun to watch them. thanks so much, best regards thomas
Thanks again Thomas its terrific to hear you are enjoying the videos.
Oscar
A most useful tutorial. It is helpful to learn that a little slowing on points and diamonds is to be expected from both Triang and Playcraft. I have two older Playcraft pieces (D6100’s), as well as a few vintage Triang, and it is good to see what performance can be reasonably hoped for. Thank you, and wonderful you had the opportunity to branch out, a little.
Good morning Jeffrey great to hear you have some classic Tri-ang and Playcraft in your collection. Always find it great fun operating these older items. And they running really shouldn’t be compared to contemporary model railway systems. Enjoying them for what they are is all part of the fun.
Thanks again for watching and take the time to comment hugely appreciated.
Oscar
Thank you Oscar for yet another wonderfully nostalgic video.. I remember having a little rake of the freight Liners about 1967 / 68 or when they first came out..
Good morning Chris great to hear you enjoyed the video. Must have been great having these models as they came out. I imagen they looked ultra-modern at the time on your railway and great fun too.
Oscar
@@oscarpaisley They certainly were, at 11 years old with a 8' x 3' board in my bedroom they were amazing, my young imagination was unstoppable.
Hello Oscar - I had that Hornby catalogue as a child! Remember it well as it came with my green Class 31 A1A-A1A Hauled freight set. The dealer in Burton on Trent - was at the same location until he retired in 1998. It was more like someone's house on a residential street which sold kits and model railway stuff! But a fantastic shop nevertheless all the way until it closed.
Terrific to hear that you had that catalogue they are full of great things! Although I suppose that’s the point to make us want more of them. It’s amazing how many of those Independent shops there were sadly I think most like yours are gone now.
Thanks again for taking the time to watch.
Oscar
Fantastic video. I got the Freight liner set for my 10th birthday, the Hymek still runs on my layout today so does the 2 x rakes of containers, however the container crane has been lost in a couple of house moves over time.
That's great to hear, sounds like a great collection.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
The buildings in the 1976 catalogue originally were originally made for Playcraft Railways (Jouef for Mettoy) and feature in the 1968, 1969 and 1970 catalogues. The tooling for the Jouef Playcraft buildings were later acquired by Faller and the unwanted UK outline building tooling were sold to Rovex Limited (Hornby).
The most collectable containers are the clockwork and electric starter set variants with Scalextrics logos. These were sold on the long wheelbase and short wheelbase 4 wheeled container flat wagons in the early 1970's in the starter sets. The locos for these starter sets were the Clockwork R.854 0-4-0T, the electric version and the blue "Barclayesque" revamped Triang North British 0-4-0 diesel shunter with the can motor (hence the "Barclayesque" fuel tank in front of the cab). The latter diesel shunter is highly collectable as it is extremely rare to find a survivor.
I have two freightliner cranes. I keep planning to motorise one of them (for over 40 years now) but never do. The container sold with the crane was a CTI (Container Transport International) in light red. Like Harold Wood, this is a fictional company.
Thanks, Andy that's very interesting information about the buildings. The clockwork models certainly seem to be thin on the ground in good condition. I have one of the Freightliner cranes set the crane has a small plastic clip missing but seems to function, Seeing a motorised conversion would be terrific.
Thanks again Andy.
Oscar
Thanks Oscar, this has helped me understand a great deal more about the earlier liner wagons. It was also great to see the Blue Hymek in which my father bought me a similar one new as a kid although with a repeating fault was returned to the Hornby repairer twice, each time receiving advice it was fine, but it wasn't. Observing my repeated frustration, Dad suggested I just go down into the orchard, dig a hole ... and bury it .... although at 10 I instead held onto it knowing I'd repair it one day. 3-4 decades later I lifted the tops off a similar green edition as well as my '76 blue one, only to notice a top bit missing. With a make-shift part my '76 now version runs like a dream just as it should have all those years ago. Thanks once again, Greg, N.Z.
Good morning Greg, thanks for such a terrific comment. I'm so glad you have got it running and that you didn't bury it.
Thanks again.
Oscar
Thanks Oscar, great video, I love that version Hymek, I don't have the later one either, but that power bogie is so good, just like the real thing noisy and reliable!
Thanks Paul glad you enjoyed the video.
Oscar
You never fail to amaze me, you must have a great collection, I can remember when this loco was available in this country, just to expensive at the time, thanks great video
Thanks Jed, glad you enjoyed the video, my collection really started by accident after many years with no interest in toy or models railways when my son was given a set by his grandmother. He was very taken with it at the time, but no longer has any interest!
Thanks again for watching.
Oscar
Hi Oscar, Another terrific start to my Sunday morning. As is often the case I found myself stopping the video and getting my models out in front of me to compare. My Green Hymek (R074) has the ringfield motor and molded in windows. My blue one has the older motor, screw body fitting, no power pick up on the rear bogie and separately fitted windows. I learn so much from watching your videos.
I used to shop at L.J. Spriggs in Letchworth. It was a lovely hobby shop but sadly it has been gone for a number of years now, perhaps 15 yrs.
As a comparison, I was earning £26 per week in 1973 when I left England for Canada.
Regards, David.
That's great to hear you enjoyed the video David and that you have a couple of variation of the Hymek. I was hoping to find a Green Hymek with the ringfeild motor at a show recently, but it wasn't to be, maybe next time. Model/Hobby shops are getting harder to find, amazing you knew the one named on the price tag. £8.25 for a model Hymek would have been quite a chunk out of the weekly pay packet in the mid-70s by the sounds of it.
Thanks again for watching and all the great information.
Oscar
Hi Oscar, Another great nostalgic video to take me back to those carefree days of the 70s! I had a rake of freightliners and loved the open containers as they were perfect for airfix soldiers- I’d then fire at them (using the springy lounge carpet which was great for launching the tiddlywinks missiles!). There would be other members of the platoon hiding in the containers ready to ambush too of course!!
I did have the Freighliner crane which was real play value whilst it lasted- but sadly this was quite fragile especially when the layout was set up on the floor (I never had the space for a baseboard)- would look great on your layout though!
The operating Ore Wagons were also a real favourite- I used to fill mine with grit from the budgies cage!!
Thanks again Ned
Sounds like great fun Ned, that crane is a bit fragile. I do have one with a tiny clip missing but still works fine. I just don't have the space to fit it into the layout as it is. I really wanted to have the unloading bridge in for the ore wagons but could not make it work. But next time...
Thanks again Ned.
Oscar
The price list is interesting. Early Triang catalogue's had the prices printed directly on the page, but as inflation started to get out of control in the late 1960s and the 1970s they couldn't keep the price the same for a whole year, hence the price list. I seem to remember that it was quite common for two or three different price lists to be issued every year, with ever increasing prices.
Thanks Roger, I had not thought of it that way before. Definitely a good reason to keep the prices off the catalogue pages.
Thanks for the information.
Oscar
Hello Oscar, another well explained video, the model shop at Letchworth on the triang box is no longer there unfortunately, I remember it well not many of these old school model shops left now, there is a model shop in Stevenage Ks Models that still sells Hornby railways, regards.
Good morning Paul, that seems to be the way with model shops now. Our local model railway shop sadly closed about three years ago now it was a great place, not only to acquire new items but advice and friendly conversation.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Oscar
Hi Oscar. another good video I just love seeing all these old models in such good condition. I love all the old tri-ang model. Thanks for sharing with us. Regards George.....
Thanks again George, these old models definitely make me smile as they run around the layout. All good fun, glad you enjoyed seeing these items in action.
Oscar
My first viewing of any of your you tube reviews. This Hymek review is fabulous. Really spurs you on to enjoy this wonderful hobby. I have this Class 35 and have just had it serviced. Performs very well now and a beautiful runner. I'm not sure if when the motor packs up (hopefully never) if it will be possible to get a replacement motor. Thanks for the great review.
Hi Simon, glad you enjoyed the video. Great to hear you have one of these fine models. The motors in these are fairly robust when they were designed they were made to be played. The motor parts are currently readily available on that well known auction site.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
@@oscarpaisleyHi Oscar. Not being a model railway engineer, do you recommend anyone who would carry out a service/repair on an R758 Class 35.I actually have two of them. The one I am talking about is very unwell but in good cosmetic condition and a shame to say goodbye. I was running it (just) until about a week ago, now it's dead. I would be happy to have a new motor putting in if it can be sought. Any ideas would be appreciated. Just add, my broken Class 35 has a completely different box to yours but the same prefix.R758 with the box having Tried-ang Hornby-Rovex Industries Ltd printed on it.
Another great video Oscar thanks for sharing !
In the end there were two problems; the excess soldered connection fir the rear bogie pick ups coming to the motor and secondly, I found a track fin lodged in one of the front wheels.. lesson learned; keep a clean track and tidy workspace. Thanks
Good morning Charlie Glad to hear you got the problem sorted out track pins get everywhere!
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
awesome combination of locomotive / container wagons / 1976 catalogue
I have R074 in green, with a ring field motor, again bought at Beaties but no price on box.. Runs well for its age. Great videos as I have older models, motors starting to show there age.
Good evening Brian I have there 1977 price list( dated 4th July ) the R.074 is listed at £9.75 and the Hornby Collectors guide has it at £10.95 in 1979 www.hornbyguide.com/item_year_details.asp?itemyearid=65 I think these models do run well for their age and will probably continue to do so for some time with just a bit of basic care.
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed the video.
Oscar
Not all toy shops stuck to the price list Patrick’s of Fulham ,sold me and my father one for £6.50 in that year I remember it was a hot day I took it home and played out with my mates around our estate on my chopper great times I was 8 but she ran so smooth and Patrick’s would service the model unlike now buy it and that’s it I got another mint the other week from a certain Liverpool outlet in the slightly older box she’s a little gem ,really loving the channel making me wish it was the 1970s and I was young and enjoying the time ,or am I getting old now hehehehe
Thanks 1968concorde for such a great comment. It paints a great picture in the mind's eye and that was a great price for the model. I had the original Raleigh Strika in green myself with the backpedal brake. A fine machine but you could get through the rear tyre a bit quickly I seem to remember.
Oscar
Great video oscar you got a right bargain there and in such good condition
Thanks, David. I don't think you could get the motor on its own with postage on that well-known auction site. So I was very pleased with the purchase. And she runs very well. It is hard to know how these things will run when you buy them at shows. There arent many dealers who show you the items running. That goes for items across the price range.
Oscar
Yes that was Lot of money £8.25 in 1976 for the Hykemk . My Mum and Dad Rent was £4.00 mouth so that was two mouth Rent
I had the Hymek in a Train Set with the Battery controller had two Battery 6v to . My next Brithday my Grandad send a Controller . and my Dad and Mum had the GWR Pannier Tank for me.
It's easy to slip into thinking these were cheap items when we look at the old price-lists. Thanks for putting some perspective on it. Sounds like a great birthday getting a controller and the GWR Pannier Tank.
Thanks again for watching and taking the time leave this great comment.
Oscar
Hi Oscar, I have just subscribed, your videos are full of useful info. All the best TONY from RHYL [GRIFFIN STATION].
Good morning Tony, thanks for subscribing glad you are enjoying the videos.
Oscar
I look forward to my Sunday afternoon (down here in Australia it’s mid afternoon) viewing of your weekly videos Oscar. The catalogue is a gem! Especially the front cover - typically ‘70’s, dad with cravat, son wearing lairy shirt. Oh, and the Hymek was a pretty basic model, but nonetheless enduring through the Hornby range over many years and a variety of liveries.
And your not missing anything by not having the Ringfield motored version Oscar - yours (I believe) has the better motor, plus the additional pick ups.
Thanks Andrew great to hear you have enjoyed the videos. I'm always amazed at how far away from my location in the UK these videos are watched. Definitely a bit of a time capsule that cover picture. I was suspecting that the ringfield motor bogie might not have quite the pulling power, especially on the incline.
Thanks again Andrew for taking the time to watch and comment.
I'm just off to put on the cravat and play with the train set!
Oscar
I have the 1977 hymek in the orange and black c.i.e livery that came out for the irish market.
Good morning that’s a great model to have to have in your collection.
Stay safe.
Oscar
@@oscarpaisley your layout and knowledge is outstanding.very interesting.thanks for the reply.
Hi Oscar, I have one of these; it doesn’t run and have cleaned the wheels and checked the contacts and made sure there is still carbon on the clips. Did my best to clean the commutator but it still does not run.
Should there be running tyres?
When I place it on the track the power bogie wheels spark but it does not move. Why should one not unscrew that bolt?
There might be a little too much solder on the copper plate where the wires from the rear are connected; might that be a fault?
Great info btw
Great Video Oscar,
Loved the Container Trains, I've managed to collect at least one of each, I've a Fletcher's Boats one, not sure if it's a rare one or not but not seen any about + some 20F "Metal Box" company Containers,
Keep them coming 👍
Thanks Mick glad you enjoyed the video. Sounds like you have a great collection.
Oscar
@@oscarpaisley
I've most of the Yellow Container Crain but unfortunately one of the stanchions is missing 😕
Thats quite a comtainer train oscar ...ive got 4 container wagons none of the bp tanks though . Been watching your videos for a year now...since my horse broke my leg last year and i had a lot of time on my hands to watch your vids😂.
Hi dogfoxcharlie sorry to hear about your leg, glad you are enjoying the videos. These containers wagons make great looking trains, I don't think I could run anything longer than this on the layout and they are quite lightweight. It will be interesting to see if the later model with the ringfeild motor and traction tyers will pull the set of wagons up the incline. I'm hoping to find one in the coming months.
Oscar
@@oscarpaisley 3 months i was mended so back onboard now ..sat around thats how i found your videos . Glad i did helped my sanity 😂
Hi Oscar,the later model has traction tyres so should manage ok on your gradients. The windows are mask painted so the finish isn't quite as crisp as the fitted ones.
Another great video,cheers!
Thanks John for the information, glad you enjoyed the video.
Oscar
I've got this hymek now from e bay today with box mine is 1974
Good afternoon Paul great to hear you got one. Thanks for watching.
Oscar
Hi Oscar,, I may be buying a hymek or thats what the guy selling it is calling it and it is the same shape as this 1 u have but has white around the windows and has yellow front is this normal for this class as i may be getting but only seen the blue ones before but the hymeks are only new to me as seen on your railway.
It also has the pickups on the trailing bogy on it like or i presume its like this 1 at least.
Thanks for all the gr8 videos you put on youtube for us to watch and enjoy so thankyou.
Cheers from John in Australia.
Sorry Oscar , i missed the bit about the other green 1 you have (i must have nodded off and missed it) so maybe I have the body or top off a green hymek ie the green 1 and the chassis from a blue one , umm maybe haha ,, anyhoo what ever it is in going to buy it coz i havent got a hymek yet (is $45 Australian$ a reasonable price for a hymek ?) , i thought i did have a hymek but its a 47 class co co engine with the big numbering and the england arrows logo on it.
Thanks and Hope you may be able to help.
Cheers from John in Australia
Hi John I have both the green (1977) and blue one (1976) with the extra pick ups and the original style motor bogies and a green one with a Ringfield motor (1979). Both the green ones have a yellow panels on the ends (painted). I have another green one! without the extra pick up and yellow panels on the ends which are paper labels this dates from around 67 and another blue one (possibly electric blue) in the R.645 freightliner presentation set, this has the original motor bogie at no extra pick up (1968/69). Hope this is of some help and AU$45 sounds like a good price...
Take care.
Oscar
Good idea keeping the original prices on the box , in 1974 I was on £29.00 PW so still quite a cost .
I see you have not been tempted to weather any of your rolling stock ..........Peter
Or fitting DCC sound Peter! lol, David.
@@trainsontuesday Ha ha , yes .
Have just sent my latest purchase off to have Legomanbiffo sound fitted , it is very addictive .......Peter
Its all ways give a bit more perspective on the models with the original price tags and dealer name. Many times they have been peeled off and this also damages the boxes. David Atkins has mentioned in the comments that he knew shop L.J.Spriggs in Letchworth. I did some awful weathering as a child as a result of reading Railway Modeler Magazine or similar, I destroyed a number of fine models with shoe polish, paint, oil, glue and dust or possibly special dust from the model shop! It's a skill I definitely did not have as a child. I'm fairly certain I haven't acquired it over the years. Done well it looks terrific not just on rolling stock but the layout as well. I think I will stick to the plastic toy look, for now, however, I recently acquired an R.356 Battle of Britain class "Winston Churchill “ with the Golden Arrow Head Board and arrows on the sides of the streamlined casing that seems to have been weathered well beyond the point that can be undone. So I shall leave well alone and leave as she is.
Thanks again for watching Peter.
WHY worry about box state use it like your supposed to and put it back 🤔
LOL. In 1976, I was earning the grand sum of £28 a week before tax and NI. So I was probably coming out with £24 -£25 after deduction meaning that loco would have cost a third of my disposable income.
Thanks for the infomation, is somtimes dificult to view these old prices list without a point of reference like this.
Thanks agian for watching.
Oscar
What is your cut off point for models Oscar? (I.E. what models are too modern for your layout?). Do u get any problems with the super 4 track?
Good question Stephen. My plan was to collect up to 1980. There has been a little mission creep! The Super 4 track works very well, you do have to be prepared to put a bit of work in especially with the points and diamond crossings keeping it all clean and points do wear out. The plastic frog gets a real beating with all those heavy metal wheels crashing over them.
Thanks for watching Stephen and taking the time to comment.
Oscar