History Primer 175: Martini-Henry MkII Documentary
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- čas přidán 17. 04. 2023
- C&Rsenal presents its Primer series where we delve into the story of this classic firearm. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
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Additional reading:
The Martini-Henry for Queen and Empire
Neil Aspinshaw
A Treatise on the British Military Martini : The Martini-Henry 1869 - C1900
B.A. Temple & I.D. Skennerton
The Martini-Henry Note-Book
Malcolm Cobb
Peabody Firearms
Edward Hull
The Turkish Connection: The Saga of the Peabody-Martini Rifle
Man at Arms Magazine Volume 1 #2 1879
William O. Achtermeier
Mitteilungen der Thurgauischen Naturforschenden Gesellschaft Issue 13 (1898)
Türk-Amerikan Silah Ticareti Tarihi
Ali Ihsan Gencer, Ali Fuat Örenc, & Metin Ünver
The Illustrated Naval and Military Magazine, July 1884
British Bayonets - W. Kynynmound
Ammunition data thanks to DrakeGmbH
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Animations by Bruno!
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I’ve never, ever noticed this before, the BSA logo is not just 3 stacked rifles, it’s 3 stacked Martini-Henrys!
I’m surprised I’ve never noticed that myself. Of course!
I once read on a message board, "My father watched 'Zulu' & bought a Martini-Henry. I watched 'Zulu' & bought an FN-FAL."
😂 that's hilarious
aw man I watched zulu and got a cowhide shield and assegai. turns out you need a considerable number more than 1 each to worry a British colonial expeditionary force. theyve annexed my domicile so I've strategically redeployed to the dog house where i plan my coup. I can smell them making tea day and night 24/7 and can see all the windows are fogged up with steam. they also play this game in my yard that looks sorta looks like baseball but every aspect of it looks dumb and awkward. I also overheard one of them talking about "kill-o-meters" I think it's some kind of device for measuring kills, I dunno I got a headache from just hearing the word. I'm starting to wonder if the place is even worth recovering.
Huge thanks to those that can donate extra per month to keep the show going. You guys have some great supporters.
Including Dave from Dublin of course
Thanks to Dave from Dublin and to be honest, I am glad to see the show in this direction. I love and appreciate this content and if you are willing to accept these larger donations, it means I can continue enjoying it. I also hope it means some of the burden and stress is off the team because you do AMAZING WORK!
Crazy how the Martini Henry pretty much kickstarted the career of Michael Caine.
"When 'arf of your bullets fly wide in the ditch,
Don't call your Martini a cross-eyed old b!tch;
She's human as you are -- you treat her as sich,
An' she'll fight for the young British soldier.
Fight, fight, fight for the soldier . . ."
Thanks for helping us all out Dave from Dublin! Great Episode!
Who outed Dave?!?
@@christhesmith Othias.. you didn’t watch til the end?
Never have I been more interested in the history and functioning of the second model of a seemingly basic single-shot rifle. I don't know how, but you guys have managed to provide content that is as captivating as it is informative. Never stop.
Where pith helmet? Need single lens spectacle.
Single lens is a monocle... For when you don't want to make a spectacle of yourself... (I'll let myself out...)
@@itatane lol fantastic… insight… please stay, good sir.
If you pour olive juice down the barrel of your Martini... You get a Dirty Martini... I will once again see myself out... 😊
A bit of additional trivia on your 3rd model Mark I converted to Mark II. You can tell it was originally a late or 3rd model MK I because it doesn’t have a fill in for the earlier Mark I set screw for the block pin. One point you may wish to make to owners and potential owners of the Brit MH....most of the rifles in current circulation came from the Nepal cache, which was hurriedly refurbished and shipped to Nepal, where they were maintained by local armorers. Clearly during the refurb and later maintenance the "parts is parts" philosophy was used and you can find any number of weird combinations of parts in any given rifle.
True to an extent, of course. They WERE aware of parts compatibility. I have seen Mk I buttstock that had been rehsaped and reconfigured for fitting to Mk IV's. The Ft William arsenal was interested in producing functional rifles, not collector's pieces. Having said that, My IMA Mk II had all the correct parts, though the rear barrel band was a BSA part, rather than an Enfield part. I have a nn-Nepal Cache Mk II, and it is cool to see one that will well-used, doesn't have any of the Nepalese markings. It even still has the faint original cartouche on the butt stock. My IMA mk II has a slightly better bore, though.
Thanks. I am already watching. Looks like rewatching ZULU is in order ( thanks tubi!)
One of my favorites growing up. I remember feeling betrayed when I found out how badly the filmmakers twisted the characters. For example, Commissary Dalton was a former Non Commissioned Officer, and a beast of a man. (He got so angry at the Zulus' probing attacks that he threw his pith helmet at them.) Hook was a teetotaler who helped out in the hospital, and Bromhead and Chard were decent, typical officers of the era. I highly recommend Col. Mike Snook's books on the Anglo-Zulu war.
@@itatane yes, I was too. They never sing as a choir either! And Hook was NOT a thief! I believe he was eventually ordained!
Othias: another hit out of the park. And I think you’ve hit something on the head in regards to firearms legends and fame. The mosin nagant isn’t a great firearm, the martini isn’t a perfect firearm, the M1 is a fantastic firearm (for its era) but it’s not the gun that made the legendary victories or final stands. As a Sousa march is titled it’s “The Man behind the Gun.” Hope you’re enjoying your trip (even though it is for work). Have a great day.
"He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire.."
Another excellent episode.
"Look to your front" " Mark your target"
MMMMUUUAAAHHHH the British Martini has alwas been celebrated for its excellence.
I have been waiting years to say this.
At one hundred yards, volley fire! Present! Aim! Fire!
Thanks to everybody that made it possible for this episode to happen! It's a great one!
Despite lack of Rob, you get a double watch. Appreciate your great work as always!
Ha small world. I live just down the road from the Weedon Repair facility. Labelled as the Weedon Royal Ordnance Depot, usually told by locals the place did nothing more than store arms up until just after WW2. Cool to hear it did do more than be a glorified warehouse.
The site has sort of languished in obscurity. I believe it hosts a series of small shops now and there is talk of turning the into apartments or offices. Kinda sad story for the place really but with it being out in the sticks and attached to Weedon the little village of nothing much it's no wonder the places history in British arms has been lost and forgotten. Thanks for the fun lil bit of info Othias, nice to know it took part in such a massive conversion and had a bigger role to play than I'd known.
I love your content and wanna do something to help y'all out. It's not as much as I wanna give, but it's all I can afford at present. Will donate more in the future.
Thank
Thank you Mae and Othias, thank you Dave from Dublin ;-)
Huge thanks to Dave from Dublin!
The Martini action is one of my favorite early ones, I just like the concept of it!
I would love a martini one day. This part of theseries is giving me a better appreciation for them
Shaken not stirred?
Greener has produced a whole line of shotguns using the Martini action, I own one in 12 gauge. Its an affordable, shootable firearm, with all of the old school cool and much cheaper ammo.
@@calebmeyer2121 thats a fair point but its the original 577/450caliber that intrigues me.
Thanks Dave! And thank you as always to Othais and Mae.
You need a machine gun to mow down a bunch of people.
Martini Henry: hold my tea!
Yo, the Henry Channel is in the house!
Liked... now to enjoy... Go Team A&Rsenal....👍
Hail Dave from Dublin.... for Dave is Legion!... good on ya .... .
Dave from Dublin sounds like a swell guy, and I very much appreciate his contribution.
My absolute favorite old rifle. Because of this gun I ended up spending years lost in the world of BPCR.
@@redactedanticretin Black Powder Cartridge Rifle
Finally, the day has come. Been hoping for this episode for years, thank you!!!
Great episode! Thank you Dave from Dublin for your generous contribution! Looking forward to part 3 of the series!
All the martinis!!
Another great episode. Thank you for all your hard work!
At this rate, it's going to take years before we get the full history of Ballistol. 🤣🤣🤣
Can't wait for next week's episode on the MkII*. At least I think that's how the British numbering works.
Thanks you guys. And thanks Dave from Dublin
Thank you for this very thorough episode on an absolute classic!
Thank you, Dave!
Thanks Dave from Dublin
Thank you Dave!
I am planning on starting donations as soon as I get a job, so thanks Dave for making this episode possible.
Mandatory comment to satiate the algorithmic gods.
Seriously though, this is one of the most consistently awesome shows on CZcams, and it's downright criminal how they're throttling your reach.
Great video as always C&R crew! Martini carbines are frankly adorable. British imperialism not so much, do appreciate the fantastic history lesson from the perspective of arms / armourers / procurement, fascinating stuff. Thanks so much!
I recently read that the most common national holiday, the thing celebrated on its own day every year by more countries than anything else, is independence from the British Empire.
@@Sableagle That sounds about right. F the crown.
i purchased a Martini action rifle / shot gun that was converted to 16 gauge. i got it back in the 80's from navy arms when they had a store in NJ.
We are blessed with another video
Thank you Dave from Dublin.
This was what Kipling is referring to when he writes about, "The Fuzzy Wuzzy" who broke a British square.
Enjoyed the video as always 😊
I would like to say for the record that Maj. Bromhead had some very impressive facial hair.
Yes! More Martini!
A great video! Can not wait for the Mark III
Loving these
lovely video
Thank you, Dave from Dublin!
After watching this episode, I wish I had bought a Martini 50 years ago when they where dirt cheap.
My first motorcycle was a 1976 BSA 650 Lightning. My dad still has the bike in the barn.
I wish you could get your hands on a Swinburne-Henry variant, like the ones used by Durant Scott and the Natal Carbineers. (The Zebra Warriors at Isandlhwana are still remembered by the Zulus in song.)
However, they are BEYOND unobtanium; I have only seen one for sale on GunBroker in 10 years, and it went for more than my car cost.
Dave from Dublin knows when he sees a good show, thanks dude
you have the best show
Just in time
Othias, my hero. I just sent the link out to everyone with a similar plea.
I’m happy some people can give 1:02:21 extra funds to help cover your costs !
Dave from Dublin is goated!
Seeing these extraction problems gives me greater appreciation for the 1898 Mauser claw extractor and cam on opening.
The Mauser would experience the exact same problem. It's a brass problem not a problem with the action it self.
@@zoiders
Disagree. Ian explained how the early MH extractor sprung out of shape -- the big Mauser claw isn't gonna do that.
@@browngreen933 And neither is the Enfield as neither the Mauser or Enfield use foil cartridges that get the head torn off. It's a cartridge problem.
So, are we going to get to see an IC with the sword bayonet? I'll grab my Nagant officer brawler and medkit!
Thanks you for the details about the bayonet and the leather hand guard.
Thanks
CZcams suppressing this content is ridiculous. If this isn’t family friendly then idk what is
You Tube can do what they want, they don't like guns and they own the website.
You are lucky they provide you with these videos and C&R are lucky they carry their content. I find it annoying that people carp about You Tube while taking the money You Tube provides them.
C&R, like everybody else, can post it on their own web site if they are unhappy.
Comment for showing engagement.🎉🎉
Muy bueno tu vídeo saludos desde Argentina
will watch when i get caught up :)
Ballistol rocks.
10:52: Officer: I hate sand. It's rough, course, and gets me shot.
Huh, something seems off since it says I'm subbed and has the bell lit up but I wasn't given a notif that this went up.
Glad I check the channel manually every other day.
That our fictional soldier really had a bad couple of days
Waiter! Another Martini and I don't care if it's shaken or stirred as long as it's 'loaded'.
Cheers mates!
I mean this in a good way, i use these videos to fall asleep. I have probably seen every single one. Love gun history and battlefield 1 was one of my favorite games, so many iconic weapons. Also have come to the conclusion you guys are vampires. Im onto you 😐
Thank you Dave. Other guys too.
The constant full through refit, even if not through, at-least provided full employment.
So, the .32 ACP pistol channel moved through the Mauser channel to the Martini channel, Hussar!
20:23 omfg, that gun is 100 years older than I am! also, that time stamp...
Outch! Definitely a purple shoulder.
Thanks to the mega donors! If I could afford more than buying 5 shirts a year I would follow in your steps!
Brought back a Mk II (missing breechblock) from Afghanistan.
Towards the conversation at the end about the all 32 channel time period I gotta say the "worst" slump to me was when C&Rsenal was the all Mauser channel. How many slight changes to the bolt do we have to sit through? But damnit I'll sit through it and I'll learn something. I'm actually currently rewatching everything starting from episode 1 and am currently on 86... damn mausers....
The Kabul Arsenal carbine length martinis I have, starting production after these, now makes slightly more sense in context. I had wondered the design purpose of the tulip head style cleaning rod. That didn't stop the crowns getting chipped to hell in the last 100+ years.
One question: does the hollow screw that holds the firing pin/spring assembly in place in the block not extend forward more to partially tension the spring? Or was this omitted in the animation for visual clarity?
Yay Ballistol! I use that sh*t on everything.
You can also tell it's a Mk I converted to Mk II by looking at the II stamped on the side - It's not centred as there was originally a I centred there, then they stamped a second I to the right of it :)
How many were disapointed when Rob didn't show up.
Excellent episode as always! But WHERE CAN I BUY THAT SHIRT? I love that color combination.
Keep up the good work, whenever i smell Ballistol i think of you folks! :)
Agreed. Tempted to pester him w/ Pateron question just to find out where he gets his Drip from.
Alien. That makes SO much sense! But seriously....your example of how an historian can and should do things, and your passion for the subject, are examples that every person studying history could learn from. If you haven't got a degree in History, there should be a few schools looking to correct that situation. Heck, I'll share mine with you....I teach math anyway!🤣
Just got one that is chambered in 450 nitro express and was used as an African safari rifle
Um, how much of this will be on the test? A very thorough story. Thank you.
On the top of breech, stamped sx or s-x for strengthened extractor
I have a carbine sword bayonet I dug up in London it's missing the pointed end by about four inches but it's nice to have I found it three meters in the ground when I worked in utilities in London
Love your Primer episodes! You guys are YDAW (Your Dinosaurs Are Wrong) but instead about guns and upload more frequently.
I find it interesting that this rifle stayed in production until the end of the 1880s.
That was the time when many european nations were already busy introducing smokeless repeaters.
The Martini-Henry must have looked rather obsolete by that time...
I wish I had one.
time to get comfy
I would love for you to go over the guns and gunplay from Lackadaisy [Pilot], it looks great use of a BAR, Thompson, M1911, and Colt 1903 (.25 ACP)