Detailed Refine 0-S Guide - Most Profitable Refining Method - Toram Online

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  • čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
  • A detailed guide on everything you need to know about refining and for those who are looking for new ways to make spina

Komentáře • 417

  • @concrez2477
    @concrez2477 Před 4 lety +406

    I did a +1 refine :D

  • @BunCheeseStudio
    @BunCheeseStudio Před 4 lety +170

    the most satisfying sound in toram is when u get ur S refine successfully

    • @Hapz137
      @Hapz137 Před 4 lety +10

      I never feel that

    • @maheshrai6632
      @maheshrai6632 Před 4 lety +4

      @@Hapz137 i can feel you

    • @pokopoko8938
      @pokopoko8938 Před 3 lety +11

      but if is breaking sound. a pain in the ass of refiner.

    • @donnyindrapura3890
      @donnyindrapura3890 Před 3 lety +4

      I did twice the entire my life playin toram.

    • @lordshampy2835
      @lordshampy2835 Před 3 lety +1

      It's only satisfying because you failed so many times before.

  • @pewwer123
    @pewwer123 Před 4 lety +120

    The changing maps trick just helps reduce stress during refining.

  • @applekelly1152
    @applekelly1152 Před 4 lety +111

    Best record for this year, used 7 stack of anti degra in less than 24 hours... The results still at +B :p

    • @man1432
      @man1432 Před 4 lety +13

      So sad, xD

    • @PassiveSinner
      @PassiveSinner Před 4 lety +16

      No that's alot of damage ≧∇≦

    • @mr.f9858
      @mr.f9858 Před 4 lety +6

      If you want to +a refine its simple relogin than do hematite + anti until fail 5 time then change to Damascus ore + anti until fail 5 time then change to mirthil ore + anti i think it will success if still fail 5 time change world do the same thing again. If u want to refine +s don't do it like +a just spam hematite + anti and change world if fail 15 times

    • @magikarp7764
      @magikarp7764 Před 4 lety +2

      @@mr.f9858 I Haven't tried the 15 times hematite on +A instead I tried
      x5 hematite, Damascus ore, mithril ore for +S the x5 mitril ore fail but I haven't change world still at int1 sofya I was gonna do hematite x15 I forgot and do mithril ore x15 it work at 7th attempt
      Thank my boi

    • @tingguanvoon3038
      @tingguanvoon3038 Před 4 lety +2

      its a sad story

  • @WI-FI_GOD
    @WI-FI_GOD Před 4 lety +114

    Guess I’m the only player that has the type of luck where refinements go from A to 7

    • @TheOdore9
      @TheOdore9  Před 4 lety +22

      R.I.P

    • @WI-FI_GOD
      @WI-FI_GOD Před 4 lety +13

      The Odore since that happened I refuse to refine stuff I just buy pre refined gear or get a trusted guild member

    • @KMZPutra
      @KMZPutra Před 4 lety +1

      best day eva :v

    • @guilhermemendes2421
      @guilhermemendes2421 Před 4 lety +1

      You're not alone xD

    • @glnqdsl7794
      @glnqdsl7794 Před 4 lety +1

      A to 5 here :

  • @kingshrimp9321
    @kingshrimp9321 Před 4 lety +66

    Me: Procrastinates making a 255 LUK refiner
    Also me: I need a LUK refiner
    *cries in +B equipments*

    • @Solbashio
      @Solbashio Před 4 lety +4

      Just use your luk farmer and add refine skill..

    • @kingshrimp9321
      @kingshrimp9321 Před 4 lety

      @@Solbashio Haha that's the plan for now. But I still need to lvl up my luk farmer cuz I just recently made it, currently not enough stat points to go full luk

  • @tomato-nuki231
    @tomato-nuki231 Před 4 lety +38

    Me playing for Toram 2 years ."WHAT ! ITEM CAN REFINE?!!!!!!!"

    • @haris2533
      @haris2533 Před 4 lety

      Nice joke ...

    • @Mary-hs1go
      @Mary-hs1go Před 4 lety +1

      Same ^^;

    • @alifxd6130
      @alifxd6130 Před 4 lety +1

      Same wkwk

    • @rhearandom338
      @rhearandom338 Před 4 lety +5

      i have been playing for three years and i literally just knew a few weeks ago XD

    • @taka759
      @taka759 Před 4 lety

      U deserve a "BRUH!" moment there😂

  • @dragaliaflux4029
    @dragaliaflux4029 Před 4 lety +19

    Sometimes you can easily have +s. Like one try.. but sometimes...
    It's very ugly when your +A becomes +9

    • @vensilgalang964
      @vensilgalang964 Před 4 lety

      Yeah then you have spent 20m on a pcr then it just goes back to +9 from +A

    • @dragaliaflux4029
      @dragaliaflux4029 Před 4 lety +2

      @@vensilgalang964 cursed gear.. RNGesus didn't bless us

    • @dragaliaflux4029
      @dragaliaflux4029 Před 4 lety

      @@vensilgalang964 cursed gear.. RNGesus didn't bless us

  • @jamesboyd6817
    @jamesboyd6817 Před 4 lety +14

    I remember my frist S refine...so much money gone...but worth it

  • @Reversely
    @Reversely Před 4 lety +58

    And then i realized i cant even afford a single HP Orichalcum

  • @joshuadahl6172
    @joshuadahl6172 Před 4 lety +20

    every time i try to do refine with full luk and anti degrade, it degrades after just a couple attempts. very frustrating

    • @ArtsyFbShirose
      @ArtsyFbShirose Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah same

    • @coopertown1493
      @coopertown1493 Před 4 lety +1

      Same damb bastards have some weird type of luck
      I cant even see my fucking weapon cuz it degrades

  • @imacat8951
    @imacat8951 Před 3 lety +12

    I feel like the luckiest person alive I did +B to +A on my first try and took me less than 10 tries to get to +S after that and my equipment even had a slot

  • @merian4316
    @merian4316 Před 4 lety +4

    Very honest info. There's no trick to refining. Just refine as usual keeping the cost in mind.

    • @ereffein2821
      @ereffein2821 Před 4 lety +1

      And peace don't forget about it .. Keep calm and continue refining

  • @cocotoram4757
    @cocotoram4757 Před 3 lety +5

    That “little did i know i forgot to switch” got me dead laughing lmao

  • @XilinGaming
    @XilinGaming Před 4 lety +2

    Another thing to do is just use damascus ore (from mino) for 0 to 7. Then mythril ore until E and orichalcum til B. Easy refine B actually. I think A and S are for advanced players.

  • @tunalemon7802
    @tunalemon7802 Před 4 lety +3

    thanks to much odore sensei! i did my first +B, now im leveling the mage luk to do to S

  • @sanchitsharma6844
    @sanchitsharma6844 Před 4 lety +6

    I just start playing for last 4 day and I don't even know what u doing,but it's look quite frustrating 😅

  • @kalzvlog7469
    @kalzvlog7469 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for explaining what is refining and how to refine. 👍

  • @immyth9005
    @immyth9005 Před 4 lety +9

    I never did +S in my life , I did +A .....
    .
    .
    .
    It's just end here with my all spina gone 🤐

  • @b1ackheartp246
    @b1ackheartp246 Před 4 lety +19

    I'm just gonna stick to +9

    • @illuslost
      @illuslost Před 3 lety +2

      SAME 😂👌

    • @axcelleria
      @axcelleria Před 3 lety

      Go at least +B the power difference quite much

  • @akumaalucard3208
    @akumaalucard3208 Před 3 lety +3

    What are the refinement values for each level of refinement?(How many attack It increases per lvl)

  • @MrDiegoc16
    @MrDiegoc16 Před 4 lety +13

    Can you do a guide on how to BS for newbies? like what steps to make at the start and how to increase proficiency? fill stats etc?

    • @puffpuffpanda4383
      @puffpuffpanda4383 Před 4 lety +1

      You can check other video there are freaking tons of

    • @MrDiegoc16
      @MrDiegoc16 Před 4 lety

      @@puffpuffpanda4383 you don't say. But decided to ask I him anyways 🤷‍♂️. If you don't like it that's on you lol, already made a Int BS.

    • @thalassaer4137
      @thalassaer4137 Před 4 lety +2

      @@MrDiegoc16 pfft dipshit

    • @CastroRx
      @CastroRx Před 2 lety +1

      @@MrDiegoc16 Don't gotta be so rude. They were just telling you that there are tons of videos out there already.

  • @jessepinkcat
    @jessepinkcat Před rokem +1

    Now we can refine from 0 to +S just using LUK char, mithril ore, and LV1 refine skill

  • @antonmcmilan3051
    @antonmcmilan3051 Před 4 lety +3

    in the end, all u need is bunch of low to high end ores and RNG (Just hoping for RNGsus ) =33

  • @ripkeyaditya9059
    @ripkeyaditya9059 Před 4 lety

    Best reffinement tips ever
    I've been seen other video and at the video it say " Use this trick so u can got + s easily"
    Huh that bullshit

  • @kazuu5028
    @kazuu5028 Před 4 lety +6

    Broo anti deg cost high as hell, might as well sell my second liver for that

    • @frozenyukimori
      @frozenyukimori Před 4 lety

      Just farm in mino lol a lot of bs farms in mino to save money

    • @harizazrin4059
      @harizazrin4059 Před 4 lety

      best way to farm mino is with finale tho

    • @frozenyukimori
      @frozenyukimori Před 4 lety

      Finale is 7-9 secs, 2h is 6secs, halberd is 1-4secs

    • @landewell6862
      @landewell6862 Před 4 lety

      What? Andeg price crashed due to quarantine because of too much supply

    • @landewell6862
      @landewell6862 Před 4 lety

      @@harizazrin4059 meteor breaker for the win

  • @jimbototheshadowrealm4426

    Basically pray to RNGesus and every RNGods when you've finally reached B+

  • @blackhole6575
    @blackhole6575 Před 4 lety +9

    im lowbudget so im going to skinned the minos...

  • @badex2110
    @badex2110 Před 4 lety +1

    Just failed miserably following those refine trick thing few hours ago, then this showed up on my notification

  • @glnqdsl7794
    @glnqdsl7794 Před 4 lety

    Best video on refining so far.

  • @shuuuuiu
    @shuuuuiu Před 4 lety +5

    *me realizing u hab 9m spina but i only hab 10k spina*
    im doomed i cant afford shts anymore

  • @GachaBuzzHub
    @GachaBuzzHub Před 4 lety +3

    I can do A+ easily with tec n hp but never get any S+ afraid of losing my A+ to E+ 😓

    • @wallflower7016
      @wallflower7016 Před 4 lety +2

      sometimes you have to take risks in order to grow in life

    • @ahmadadnin4205
      @ahmadadnin4205 Před 4 lety +1

      @@wallflower7016 that trueeT-T

  • @zawad1789
    @zawad1789 Před 4 lety +1

    What do you think is more profitable for a mid range player? Refining a ns then piercing or buying 1s then refining?

    • @adamking4533
      @adamking4533 Před 4 lety

      Commenting here so I get notif when someone replies 👌

    • @TheOdore9
      @TheOdore9  Před 4 lety

      Depends on how much you're buying that piercer

    • @glnqdsl7794
      @glnqdsl7794 Před 4 lety

      Following this thread. I wanna know too.

    • @adamking4533
      @adamking4533 Před 4 lety

      I found out refining no slot the weapon only drops by 1, like from B to C for example
      But 1 slot can drop by 1 or 2 and that's the only difference.
      So if u find a good weapon with 1 slot get it, cheaper than buying a piercer

  • @Mccx81
    @Mccx81 Před 4 lety +10

    I got Scammed
    Then found out that half of my money was gone.
    The next day.
    I used 5 antideg for B-S!

  • @geradosolusyon511
    @geradosolusyon511 Před 3 lety

    It's really bothering me how I, for several times refined with mithril ore at +3 only to fail due to lag. So it has a 100% success rate all along? My phone is shitty.

  • @thomasgilkey9140
    @thomasgilkey9140 Před 2 lety

    never had the patience for lots of fails so no comment at all on A-S, except I'm about to try, and salty a bit over the changes made.. seems like the savings of pom and andeg was made nearly obsolete if you're up for boring grind

  • @thomasgilkey9140
    @thomasgilkey9140 Před 2 lety

    faster way at least to B from E is using pom refinement of various sizes with Ori naturally gold and HP Ori for slotted B..

  • @Muhaiz
    @Muhaiz Před 4 lety

    sensei, at 4:07 you said that the degradation prevention would be 95% if using full luk char, so does that mean 255Luk is equal to 20% prevention? and if we use super anti-deg, does our degrade prevention will always be 100%?

  • @tyronhue3147
    @tyronhue3147 Před 4 lety

    This is what should very youtuber do . Straight short and easy to understand .. not like the other making stories too many tactics. But doesn't work.

  • @liam8370
    @liam8370 Před 4 lety +1

    i have a question a wanna build a black smith so what should i go for tec 255 or luck 255 and i can only go for one i don't think i can go for both

    • @TheOdore9
      @TheOdore9  Před 4 lety

      255 tec blacksmith does everything except B-S refining

  • @KaKa-cd9de
    @KaKa-cd9de Před 4 lety +1

    How much to sell indigo jet sword no stat +S refine?

  • @exemida
    @exemida Před 4 lety

    Little did he realize...he done f'd up. nice tutorial keep it up.

    • @TheOdore9
      @TheOdore9  Před 4 lety

      haha thanks, you seem satisfied with the tutorial

  • @ronaldst4423
    @ronaldst4423 Před 4 lety

    Hi Odore , i want to ask u something. So If we using antideg, The deg is about 95-99% . So? How about super andeg?

  • @cutecube252
    @cutecube252 Před 4 lety +3

    A dude shouted out levling with no mq was so hard
    Those BS player in a dark corner of the room that looked crazy : hehehe,the totoring is just begun

    • @Ken-qo4jd
      @Ken-qo4jd Před 4 lety

      Oh man, I relate with this so much. I tried levelling a TEC>STR Halberd. After the MQ, it was hell. Thank god for free resets, I reset to a BG/BS Tank with VIT=TEC (as of now) and it was soooo much easier. The best way to get to level a BS is free resets XD

    • @user-nj4ic9bc2y
      @user-nj4ic9bc2y Před 4 lety

      I just wait for reset event then change my bs to dps then change back lol
      (i leveled my bs prof b4 i lvled)

  • @phantom6952
    @phantom6952 Před 4 lety +1

    Can you explain why refine skill has no effect for B-S?
    I dont really know, Old Player still use all refine skill 10

    • @j0k3r84
      @j0k3r84 Před 4 lety

      bcuz no matter whut us do B-S is already 1% no matter whut ore you use

    • @coopertown1493
      @coopertown1493 Před 4 lety

      Asobimo way to shit on everyone~
      Same in Iruna u cant have Max refine without dropping a tear of blood and rage

  • @immith14
    @immith14 Před 2 lety

    We don't need proficiency in refining right?

  • @SAS_2509
    @SAS_2509 Před 4 lety

    Is it better to get a ns and refine to +S and buy piercer later? I'm already dead inside from refining a 1s to +E. Besides, 2s equips are hella expensive. But then again, i'm not really sure which method is cheaper since i've never bought a piercer before.

    • @blindedjourneyman
      @blindedjourneyman Před 4 lety +1

      It saves much more time. Get to s refine, farm bosses with your new op weapon sell xtals and mats, buy piercers is way My guildies always do it.

    • @SAS_2509
      @SAS_2509 Před 4 lety

      @@blindedjourneyman alright, thanks!

  • @jerz6803
    @jerz6803 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the info! But one question. Where I could get the anti degredation potion.

    • @Likeminds13
      @Likeminds13 Před 2 lety +1

      Side quest, trade mini skins. If you CZcams mini skin farming they should say how to sell them for max profit"anti degradation" hope this helps.... Ps side quest is next to board in sofya city talk to npc

  • @JustSomeLunaticW.OAMustache

    And I have +B equips (add and sword) that I only bought for not more than 500k. With xtal. RIP ores, why those for so low if it's this hard?

  • @fuyutsukirai
    @fuyutsukirai Před 3 lety

    Does BS proficiency affect refinement success or not?

  • @shizue6098
    @shizue6098 Před 4 lety

    Will the refine be removed if you change the appearance? Example: +B refine and the apperance you want is 0.

    • @TheOdore9
      @TheOdore9  Před 4 lety

      Appearance has nothing to do with the equipment's status

  • @cyrussacay3903
    @cyrussacay3903 Před 4 lety +1

    Hhhmmmm for example a mob that drops orchalcum appear, would the price refining services drop? By how much?

    • @moekabuan7202
      @moekabuan7202 Před 4 lety

      not much...since there are mobs that drop orich..the drop rate is near impossible tho...Seele Zauga NM is a good way to farm orich i suppose

    • @glnqdsl7794
      @glnqdsl7794 Před 4 lety

      @@moekabuan7202 I tried farming oric from the mobs in Brahe Lab. Took me an hour to get just 1 ori ore

  • @Sinist3r69
    @Sinist3r69 Před 3 lety

    do i need blacksmith profiency lvl 150+ to make an effective refiner?

  • @franstefanie4814
    @franstefanie4814 Před 4 lety

    So informative thankyouu very much! ^o^

  • @jmprudenciado8543
    @jmprudenciado8543 Před 2 lety

    Best guide with explanation

  • @sir4732
    @sir4732 Před 4 lety +1

    I'm confused, which should I get then? Luk or Tec?

  • @kissorpunch2204
    @kissorpunch2204 Před 3 lety +1

    I can only do 9 the most I can't go up to E

  • @boner-kun1012
    @boner-kun1012 Před 4 lety

    Can you still build a refiner 0-S using full luk?

  • @oganarheniernaron8727
    @oganarheniernaron8727 Před 4 lety

    You have equipment for katana or have a katana?

  • @minusminus8089
    @minusminus8089 Před 4 lety

    Hi! Im a newbie blacksmith so i dont know much about smithing.. um when refining chara made weapons and armor which should come first? Do i put stat first then refine or refine first then fillstat and also do i need a max lvl my bs for better chance on refining? Is bs luk with 255 luk lv 135 still good at refining or is it risky? 😣😣

    • @TheOdore9
      @TheOdore9  Před 4 lety

      You can fill then refine later or do the opposite, check the video

  • @Saiba1423
    @Saiba1423 Před 4 lety

    I refined 0-B with damascus ore, mithril ore, and orichalcum ore and it's very easy o.o

  • @hirogavin6559
    @hirogavin6559 Před 4 lety

    +S & +A 255LUK char, cheapest ore
    +B below 255TECH char, most precious ore
    Is that right?
    *From lv70 player here😅, sry and tx

  • @Its.Just_RYN
    @Its.Just_RYN Před 4 lety

    Usually it takes how many Andeg to reach +S??

  • @sutan4233
    @sutan4233 Před 4 lety

    Thank you got refine +s more easier ty bro ^O^

  • @RikkaToram
    @RikkaToram Před 4 lety

    Can you try refine 2s item to +S ?

  • @kurokami5588
    @kurokami5588 Před 4 lety

    Is the bs prof metter when u do refine??

  • @j0k3r84
    @j0k3r84 Před 4 lety

    apparently in my Experiences it's Really Easier to Refine in Int 1 than other servers

  • @jeuce_box7903
    @jeuce_box7903 Před 4 lety

    Idk if im wasting more if i refine with mithril ore (no andeg) to C but it seems less expensive if you have time to spare lol

  • @xtrlplayz3215
    @xtrlplayz3215 Před 3 lety

    Do u lose the item that ur refining if it fails?
    Cz im tryna refine my 5th anniversary vii and im afraid of loosing it

    • @mikasa1126
      @mikasa1126 Před 3 lety +1

      of kors not, there is no wAY your item will gone, but please dont use magic hammer, its scam

  • @SpyroMaxi
    @SpyroMaxi Před 3 lety +1

    By refining what changes happens in weapon

    • @euangelion9018
      @euangelion9018 Před 3 lety +2

      The weapon attack will increase:
      +1 : +2%
      +2 : +6%
      +3 : +12%
      +4 : +20%
      +5 : +30%
      +6 : +42%
      +7 : +56%
      +8 : +72%
      +9 : +90%
      +E : +110%
      +D : 132%
      +C : 156%
      +B : 182%
      +A : 210%
      +S : 240%

  • @robbyframe5526
    @robbyframe5526 Před 4 lety

    finally a reliable refine tip

  • @tunaynatinapay
    @tunaynatinapay Před 4 lety

    At long last a refining vid with more sense. Unlike those who believe there are tricks to it lmao.

  • @lordnazzer
    @lordnazzer Před 4 lety

    HP B-A is the cheapest method since you save a lot of time(time is gold) and only struggle on A-S with luk smith

  • @user-ro8hu4kf6l
    @user-ro8hu4kf6l Před 4 lety

    Idk if this consider as a question.T^T
    Should i lvling like usual (complete mq & sq) then reset skill tree for bs skill or just carry on the stat and skill tree. I clueless and i hope i get the bs chara T^T. Totally noob or even worseT^T

    • @azhidaal
      @azhidaal Před 4 lety

      You will get more character slots as you play, though achievements/emblems. You can use those slots to make a seperate bs character .

    • @user-ro8hu4kf6l
      @user-ro8hu4kf6l Před 4 lety

      @@azhidaal noted. thanks 😊😘

  • @notme2499
    @notme2499 Před 3 lety

    I refine it +D already but... when tryin to +C refine fail and my weapon gone... T-T

  • @stlhero79
    @stlhero79 Před 4 lety

    If you refine in a blacksmith can you have higher rate

  • @anzu755
    @anzu755 Před 3 lety

    Does Blacksmith Proficiency Matters?

  • @neodelfin7745
    @neodelfin7745 Před 4 lety

    Can I ask? Is refining to +S,is it 100% percent succes or it can fail? I dont wanna waste my spina

    • @TheOdore9
      @TheOdore9  Před 4 lety

      You have to have 2m atleast to cover up the degrades

    • @neodelfin7745
      @neodelfin7745 Před 4 lety

      For example if I was a buyer and my friend sells refine +S how much would it cost? Depends on the item? Or its still the same?

  • @sndy7672
    @sndy7672 Před 2 lety

    Im new player, i just try refining in this game
    I buy +B md, i want to get it to +S because i dont know how hard it would be.
    Im feeling confident with my 255 tec bs
    And oh boy i didnt think it would be this hard
    I waste like almost 3 stacks of anti degradations and its just fell off from +B to +7
    And now i dont know how to feel, my day is ruined.

  • @mr.potato5631
    @mr.potato5631 Před 4 lety +3

    How to buy a ref service without getting scammed?

  • @sahid7305
    @sahid7305 Před 5 měsíci

    Just 4stack of mithriel ore and +s. With no anti degradation

  • @playerone4266
    @playerone4266 Před 3 lety

    What is the difference between b equip to s equip. I bought a 5m bow not knowing 1m more will have given me s grade and a higher base atk

  • @haste4122
    @haste4122 Před 3 lety

    I wonder how much spina did he loose on one weapon

  • @Nhan_nguyen271
    @Nhan_nguyen271 Před 3 lety

    i remember anti degrade only prevent 75 %, hyper anti prevent 95%

  • @thomasw8074
    @thomasw8074 Před 3 lety

    total cost vs total charge price?

  • @jericoool3874
    @jericoool3874 Před 3 lety

    Great How much for an S refiner service

  • @rikihow6858
    @rikihow6858 Před 4 lety

    Are u have recommendation how much ore/andeg for refine +A & +S?
    Coz i already able to refine +B but never try refine +A and +S

    • @lemongrasshat_9952
      @lemongrasshat_9952 Před 4 lety

      Consider your budget around 5M for total cost. Depends on luck.

  • @kylehizon4302
    @kylehizon4302 Před 3 lety

    Do having a high proficiency in blacksmith affects your refining?

  • @wallflower7016
    @wallflower7016 Před 4 lety

    how much spinas usually does it take to refine 0-S on your own?

  • @TalentlessMonax24
    @TalentlessMonax24 Před 4 lety

    the odore pls notice this question. How much spina does it usually cost to refine 0-S? Just the average guess

    • @TheOdore9
      @TheOdore9  Před 4 lety

      Above 2m

    • @dragaliaflux4029
      @dragaliaflux4029 Před 4 lety

      Sometimes it's just below million.. sometimes its above 5 million... Then you get very pissed and ended up using 10 million but still haven't made it to +s

  • @ZartainS
    @ZartainS Před 4 lety

    How much did u spend ? I only have 800k

  • @hailey6564
    @hailey6564 Před 4 lety

    I have a question Mr.Odore! How can one become a trusted refiner? Nobody wants to buy my service cuz i don't give insure but that's because i too am afraid of getting scammed hehe >u

    • @TheOdore9
      @TheOdore9  Před 4 lety

      Offer about 30% of the item's value as insurance so that you will still get profit even if they may not take the item

    • @hailey6564
      @hailey6564 Před 4 lety

      @@TheOdore9 ohh oki thank! :0

  • @bhasma262
    @bhasma262 Před 4 lety

    U're awesome..u deserve a loot more subs

  • @HERO-fb1lo
    @HERO-fb1lo Před 4 lety +1

    Is the slot weapon effect the refinement?

    • @Revtiva
      @Revtiva Před 4 lety

      If failed, it will degrade more miserably.

    • @Croiri
      @Croiri Před 4 lety +5

      NS degrades by 1
      1s degrades by 1-2
      You can imagine how tough it is for 2s

  • @raphtube9109
    @raphtube9109 Před 4 lety

    uhh why does it became +10 not E

  • @jlp5066
    @jlp5066 Před 3 lety

    Actually no, play it the hard way. Refine your weapon to B+ with only Mithril Ore and nothing else. It's a much cheaper way to refine.

  • @apache_hi4672
    @apache_hi4672 Před 3 lety

    i get why +S items cost so much now

  • @user-ru8ly6wo2l
    @user-ru8ly6wo2l Před 4 lety

    Don’t trust any tricks, best advice!

  • @PassiveSinner
    @PassiveSinner Před 4 lety

    Is the new sakura garb good for tank or should I still use dragoonmail?!

    • @blindedjourneyman
      @blindedjourneyman Před 4 lety +1

      Dragoon if you have other ways of getting mp as the resistance is awesome. Sakura 4 is decent hw'd more like players first tank armor. Seele is slightly better in hp mp.

  • @masihnewbie0
    @masihnewbie0 Před 4 lety +1

    so glad when you say refine is pure luck and change places just waste your time