How To Stop Being a Nice Guy | Jordan Peterson

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  • @poweroffocus4143
    @poweroffocus4143  Před rokem +11

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  • @aidanrussell8875
    @aidanrussell8875 Před rokem +309

    i saw alot of comments about if you are a nice guy be a nice guy, but the point of this video is to be able to speak up and disagree. you already have the nice guy quality but learning to know when to be disagreeable is an important part in life

    • @alenaadamkova7617
      @alenaadamkova7617 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Nice guy means dishonest yesman.
      But maybe there si also "genuinelly nice man"
      Being genuinelly nice means....that you are good listener, not approval seeking man.
      Your customers in restaurant like you for listening what they want, or enjoy, good food, etc
      so they ask whats your best recipe, you say it, and then they say their ideas...and they appreciate you for "listening to them"
      not for approving them.
      which creates empathy and connection, between people.
      I listen to your ideas and you listen to my ideas, the compromise creates a common sense and connection.
      So women also want empathy and connection. As Sam Vaknin said men are attracted to women visually,
      and women are attracted to men verbally.
      so she feels heard, but some men didnt develop enough patience to listen to people.
      So they have to learn to not just be a man of action but also listen to people, because it shows his genuine interest.
      Maybe therefore women like high achievers, because they think that successful men listen to their customers with a genuine interest,
      not neccessarily with constant approval, but with interest....
      so the customers feel heard and come back.
      If customers feel heard and come back, she feels that he will also listen her ideas, and
      it encourages her ask his ideas and create connection.....it encourages her to give empathy to him as wella nd listen to him.
      instead of contradiction, they create a compromise that benefits both, or that also benefits their future children based on their low age and innocence
      ,so the compomises are important.
      If she stops falling in love with you,
      its because she feels like you stopped listening to her ideas, what hobbies she likes, what music she likes... or ordinary stuff
      because she will think that if you stop listening to her
      she can not simultaneously listen to your ideas, create connection and perception
      or that in future you will not even listen to your own children as father, if you dont make some time to listen the ideas of your wife,
      how can she expect thatyou will do it with the family.
      Because when she feels heard, she also feels loved,
      and when a man feels heard, he feels loved
      she doesnt want advice but genuine interest and connection.
      Of course she should give the same interest back, and listen his ideas and hobbies.

    • @alenaadamkova5322
      @alenaadamkova5322 Před 2 měsíci

      Maybe they should create "nice weekend syndrome"
      Make idea once a week going to a nature, camping or hiking with a family, play silly games, with some ball, or do tenis,
      husband will bond more with wife, wife will bond more with husband, thanks to innocent silly games.
      I mean games like "who will" make the tent first etc
      or who will prepare food, or something little just for fun,
      bringing some mushroom,
      in such innocent moment wife and husband enjoy the moments of silnce, and gentle loving touch, holding hands while walking in nature,
      or he helps making a camp fire, looking into each others eyes, without words,
      Actions speak louder than constantly anlyzing,
      In silence they actually create "bonding loving" atmposphere between in their marriage.
      People dont practice this silent approach,
      just sitting looking in camp firea nd enjoy family time, or riding ahorse together, walkinga dog silently, and enjoying the other persons´presence,
      they are taught by media, to just talk all the time,
      so they dont have time to fall in love over and over again.
      But usually you fall in love especially when your mouth are shut,
      and eyes open, not in times of constanta nalyzis.
      Laughter is healling and laughter makes people bond together.
      Children may learn new hobbies. It is better than being constantly attacked by news and silly topics on social media,
      or being brainwashed to eat some pills to feel happier.
      Hobbies and laughter is good stimulation for brain, also it increases immunity of the body, so people feel healthier, happier.

  • @cjsmith8319
    @cjsmith8319 Před rokem +527

    I’m not saying there’s causation, but I’ve been listening to and applying Jordan’s advice at the workplace. It’s helped me tremendously in the sense that people respect me. I haven’t really had this kind of respect before.

    • @dirtyj1234
      @dirtyj1234 Před rokem +3

      💪

    • @lucajack007
      @lucajack007 Před rokem +10

      Top g

    • @jettstocken8205
      @jettstocken8205 Před rokem +6

      Good on u keep it up

    • @joshf.3047
      @joshf.3047 Před rokem +16

      I have been applying Sun Tsu's Art of War and has been great, but with Peterson's lectures, it pieces together all the information into modern, practical use.

    • @cpt1255
      @cpt1255 Před rokem +1

      Are you an agreeable person? What have you changed in your behaviour

  • @crimsonnemesis3511
    @crimsonnemesis3511 Před 5 měsíci +31

    I stop being passive and aggressive… I just don’t care about pleasing people or creating conflict. I’ll tell people what I think, people either like it or don’t. If someone wants to have a conversation about something sure. I’m not going out of my way anymore. People just take and I’m tired of giving, no return.

  • @Robbielazar
    @Robbielazar Před rokem +250

    What a privilege it must be to attend to Mr Peterson classes! People don’t realize it yet, but he’s a gem and speaking the truth

    • @LaneTheBrane
      @LaneTheBrane Před rokem +3

      He's an actor and freemason!

    • @elliotjames5172
      @elliotjames5172 Před rokem +1

      Unfortunately he's not teaching anymore, and hasn't been for a fair bit I think.

    • @Robbielazar
      @Robbielazar Před rokem +4

      @@LaneTheBrane LOL, check his resume bud

    • @LaneTheBrane
      @LaneTheBrane Před rokem

      @@Robbielazar you're blind, wake up

    • @karljuliuz
      @karljuliuz Před rokem +5

      Not only that, as a european listening to his language, his lectures, and the understanding of the world, it has not only helped me to understand universal logic and scientific matters. But it has helped me improve my english, because he express himself so profoundly with complicated words and sayings. I admire this man for keeping the population educated, whether you like it or not.

  • @SilberCobra1
    @SilberCobra1 Před rokem +52

    I'm moving away from being an agreeable person, into more disagreeable, and I like it. It feels good.

    • @livewirekidd
      @livewirekidd Před měsícem +1

      Same, what an amazing feeling

    • @mm76.9
      @mm76.9 Před měsícem +3

      Same. Slowly, but surely. It makes me wish I started making this change before.

  • @jehushaphat
    @jehushaphat Před rokem +40

    I certainly believe we can be open and truthful WITHOUT being callous and insensitive.

    • @waynemayer1601
      @waynemayer1601 Před 4 dny

      Insensitivity is quite dependant on the individual and quite often used by someone that disagrees with you and does not have a justification for their stance on the issue, Callousness is not needed I agree

  • @El_Andru
    @El_Andru Před 5 měsíci +25

    I dont understand how some people hate on him.

    • @mrcupcake5309
      @mrcupcake5309 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Me neither. Learning from him helped rebuild me over the last few years after tragedy, and I couldn't be happier today.
      People like him on CZcams really save lives. The haters probably love living in despair, and don't want to learn why they are unhappy.

    • @mememaintenance
      @mememaintenance Před 5 měsíci +3

      partial its because of his politics

    • @nickthompson1812
      @nickthompson1812 Před 3 měsíci +4

      His self help stuff is good. His political takes are pretty crummy.

    • @El_Andru
      @El_Andru Před 3 měsíci

      @@nickthompson1812 Fair.
      I will not argue against this.
      The way you presented yourself sold me. I dont know nor care about his politics, but you are a needle in a haystack of idiots who cant have a conversation.
      Good day to you.

    • @kreed4480
      @kreed4480 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Because with his level of integrity and intellect they know he would never be another puppet

  • @SonOfSparda2024
    @SonOfSparda2024 Před rokem +16

    I avoid conflict simply because I can't defend myself effectively. Am not afraid of addressing problems that are uncomfortable or wrong to me or others. It's just I can't fight or defend with my words effectively. There are tons of things I disagree with any so does that make me a "nice guy"

    • @chuckchan4127
      @chuckchan4127 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Stop caring about other people. Once you don't give a **%* about others, its becomes a lot easier to defend yourself.
      At the end of the day, YOU are more important than other people.

    • @SonOfSparda2024
      @SonOfSparda2024 Před 5 měsíci

      @@chuckchan4127 thanks hopefully I will reach to that point.

    • @chuckchan4127
      @chuckchan4127 Před 5 měsíci

      @SonOfSparda2024 You can reach that point right now. But you have to choose it.
      If you truly cared about others, you would care about yourself.

    • @SonOfSparda2024
      @SonOfSparda2024 Před 5 měsíci

      @@chuckchan4127 the only people I care about are my family. As those are the ones I want to protect. But I will do my best and care for myself more

    • @CIRCLE_CLUB
      @CIRCLE_CLUB Před 4 měsíci

      Me too man

  • @dochmbi
    @dochmbi Před rokem +699

    Why not just ignore dating and play saxophone instead. Like just play saxophone. Easy game.

  • @nickc7494
    @nickc7494 Před rokem +13

    Be nice with boundaries

  • @derpnerpsky
    @derpnerpsky Před rokem +19

    I totally agree with everything he said and everything everybody else says too

  • @josephgaray1575
    @josephgaray1575 Před rokem +25

    Just had a conversation about doing the opposite of what you’re used to this past Sunday. I brought it up as we were discussing stuff along the lines and had a nice serious discussion about it. I love my good friends. Very supportive.

  • @themightyatom1031
    @themightyatom1031 Před rokem +33

    Been passive and a people pleaser my whole life, can't shake it

    • @sharonrogers6541
      @sharonrogers6541 Před rokem +5

      Me too I was that way by nature from the youngest years. Also o I grew up in a house full of anger and ugly arguing through many and many a night. I made a conscious decision as a child that I didn't want to be anything like that.

    • @carpe996
      @carpe996 Před rokem +4

      Just start doing it. Start disagreeing with people. It will be difficult at first, but will get easier with time. And READ and study the world, ie current events so you can defend yourself if needed, when you disagree. The most attractive ( in the long run ) thing you can say to anyone, when said with assertiveness and NOT in anger, is " no " or " I disagree ", or " I don't see it that way. "

    • @jordanharrison8769
      @jordanharrison8769 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Same. I can’t even think of anything I want. The question “what makes me happy” just leads to an endless void of nothingness. Glimpses of things I’ve done with others that I has happy in the moment to do with someone I liked, but the thing I liked was the person. Not the activity. So now I’m so deep I don’t even have an identity, and I will die alone for it.
      Ironic, spending all that time trying to make people like me, inevitably made sure that no one does.

    • @andrebaxter4023
      @andrebaxter4023 Před 3 měsíci +1

      You can if you want to. It’s a mindset that takes time to build, if it doesn’t come naturally to you.

    • @alenaadamkova5322
      @alenaadamkova5322 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Be 50 percent agreable and 50 percent disagreable, make a compromise, so others have a chance to be 50 percent agreable and 50 percent disagreable..
      for example your friends.
      the day has 24 hours.
      so even your friends have to be agreeble one day and disagreable other day as they have a different schedule.
      if you have 5 friends and the other friend has 10 friends
      he will be disagreable based on his busy schedule....but first he has to take care of his needs then to take care of friend business.
      and the friend gives him back the interest.

  • @coniferous4637
    @coniferous4637 Před rokem +58

    My problem is pretty much as soon as it gets to the point of conflict I pretty much just let a relationship die because I don’t think people can change at all so i just walk.

    • @stevostevens5846
      @stevostevens5846 Před rokem +11

      Then figure what you need to change about yourself and make those changes. Recognise what traits and strengths in you facilitated the change and recognise its possible to change and what to look for in others that demonstrates their own capacity to. If they have those traits then help them on the journey with your experience, if their worth it or walk away if you recognise they lack the traits you've found to be necessary.

    • @alenaadamkova5322
      @alenaadamkova5322 Před 2 měsíci

      Be 50 percent agreable and 50 percent disagreable, make a compromise, so others have a chance to be 50 percent agreable and 50 percent disagreable..
      for example your friends.
      the day has 24 hours.
      so even your friends have to be agreeble one day and disagreable other day as they have a different schedule.
      if you have 5 friends and the other friend has 10 friends
      he will be disagreable based on his busy schedule....but first he has to take care of his needs then to take care of friend business.
      and the friend gives him back the interest.

  • @earlgrey2130
    @earlgrey2130 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Stop acting like being nice is a bad thing.
    Being ONLY nice is bad.
    Being ONLY dominant is bad.
    You need both and only in combination are they an advantage.

  • @robojimbo7039
    @robojimbo7039 Před rokem +7

    hes right, im super passive, i dont even go passive aggressive, my best friends even try to test me just to be sure the man is still in me, and willing to defend himself of get aggressive

  • @lotlizzard2209
    @lotlizzard2209 Před rokem +8

    Say what you mean and stand behind it.... be the rough stone.

  • @Justice4Skye
    @Justice4Skye Před rokem +34

    I hate that he is describing me, I have always avoided conflict and have always lived for others to the point where I'm 38, disabled and close to being no longer alive, homeless, void of hope all together, something I never thought possible until I ended up alone without human contact, no friends or family etc.
    I hate that he's right, but I have always tried to be kind and helpful to others. I'm sick and wish I wasn't as it's made me an easy target, so I don't know the answers anymore.
    This world is so different then what I thought it was. Scams and evil everywhere. I just want to be able to afford the basics and have a decent healthcare and just an iota of quality of life.
    I want to find peace and not die sad and broken. Never had as much as a speeding ticket but also easily was used and manipulated, and thought laws would protect me, or doctors were honest and caring, and took me a lifetime to realize people can be good or bad in any line of work or life.
    I wish the best for everyone 🥺

    • @paynespaulding3621
      @paynespaulding3621 Před rokem +5

      For me one thing that has helped is thinking of the mantra "the truth will set you free". Often times I avoid conflict, which sometimes means avoiding the truth to avoid conflict. Speaking what I think and feel has allowed me to do things I like and to focus on myself which in a sense has "set me free"

    • @sharonrogers6541
      @sharonrogers6541 Před rokem

      You remind me of me

    • @sharonrogers6541
      @sharonrogers6541 Před rokem

      Apparently the more we recognize and connect with our own "shadow side," (and it's official that we all have them,)the easier it becomes to see others as they are as well.

    • @jehushaphat
      @jehushaphat Před rokem +1

      Well, I've always avoided conflict, and I live a peaceful life. Of course, that doesn't mean I don't speak my mind...I do, but I'm wise enough to recognize when it would help and when it wouldn't.

    • @jehushaphat
      @jehushaphat Před rokem

      @@paynespaulding3621 Good point. I actually believe you can do both -- speak truthfully AND avoid conflict. But you're right, sometimes our truth does have a tendency to arouse conflict from others even when it's not intended to.

  • @libra8996
    @libra8996 Před 4 měsíci +2

    so good, talks like this is needed for lost men in the west... THERE IS NO ONE to guide us, we are being destroyed. Thank you Dr. Jordan P....

  • @bcz3534
    @bcz3534 Před rokem +29

    So grateful for this man’s wisdom and courage to fight for his values. Thank you for taking the time to upload this amazing content!

  • @David-yk9le
    @David-yk9le Před rokem +16

    I think he is becoming my new favourite person, he is the godfather of psychology. He strikes me as a man who has suffered a hell of a lot in his own personal life to say that he has such a wealth of knowledge in all aspects of psychology

  • @DanielWSonntag
    @DanielWSonntag Před rokem +2

    I am a fulltime caregiver for my dad. That fixed my nice guy problem.

  • @desertcruisin5988
    @desertcruisin5988 Před 14 dny

    The value in those times Peterson lectures, when he was still a professor, is unheard of. That is the whole basic principle of his ability to reach minds.

  • @shivanshrana8846
    @shivanshrana8846 Před 4 měsíci +1

    As an agreeable person, I agree to what he just said.

  • @zizabrand6281
    @zizabrand6281 Před rokem +16

    This is such a good lecture..like wow

  • @Fielion
    @Fielion Před rokem +37

    Learn how to talk... talk about what? Its hard to talk about things when there is nothing you are interessted in. As a kid i was interessted in a lot of things and was talking to them with everyone, all the time. That was one of the reasons why i was bullyed and over time i stopped talking, to whom should i have talked anyways? I had no friends, my family wasnt interessted in me. And with more time going by i lost interesst in all things.
    Learn to be disagreable? The consequence of it is fighting and from the very beginning i learned that fighting meant losing. Nobody was ever interessted in my point of view and when i still talked about it, said that i felt bad about the situation, they allways made me feel that it was my fault, or that i was over reacting. They still do.
    How to let go, when you torment yourself all the time? Allways the same thoughts and when you go out or look at the world you can see the things that bother you everywhere, there is no way to avoid them and when you try to avoid them to really isolate yourself, the self torment becomes even worse.
    The emotionall valance is a good point. Its so hard to live when there is nothing that you are interessted in, nothing that makes you wanna go and fight for it.

    • @Cantabri
      @Cantabri Před rokem +1

      My mother said today: it sounds like you are mad at her. And i am. She was right, my mother, i am mad because she doesn't understand the hard time i am going through, i blamed myself for beeing absent for a while. She thought that my absences were because i want something/someone else in my life. But i was more ashamed because i quitted my job due to the long depression im currently in. So i dont have the capability to do something fun after work. I said to myself alright, i am a nobody at the moment and i didn't want her to see that.
      I try my best to get her attention back and not be a sad soul. But our overthinking is winning this fight and i hate it.
      I feel you, you was the same as me as a kid, i remember that older people told me as a kid, that i have to be more serious and not say anything that comes to my mind.
      Knowing all this, can only make us stronger but we have to choose to not chance, but accept who we are and have the most beautiful journey that we can think of.

    • @gete3592
      @gete3592 Před rokem +2

      Go on do new stuff be it snowboarding, learn a new kitchen recipe, biking, calisthenics, whatever, go and try it, you might fall in love with it, you might not, but if you do, then you've got yourself a starting point. From there, you will be on a roll :)

    • @joshf.3047
      @joshf.3047 Před rokem +1

      I believe he is trying to convey being competent in overall articulation to the open world about your desires, thoughts, and feelings; being able to explain an intangible, general idea using just words, but if need be within the domain of a specialized audience, with extreme technicality.

    • @joshf.3047
      @joshf.3047 Před rokem

      Even if you aren't interested in anything that can give you a drive to pursue, you most likely want to avoid all the suffering you can, and that starts with being able to tell others to stop doing something that hurts you (physical or emotional), or vise-versa, fortify with reaffirming recognition as a positive action to further extend the event, or promote future occurrences of said positive event. For example, sex.

    • @guilhermepicolloduarte8110
      @guilhermepicolloduarte8110 Před rokem +1

      Boo hoo

  • @yngvie659
    @yngvie659 Před rokem +2

    Yeah, I got a friend who is highly disagreeable he hates being proven wrong and I prove him wrong a lot it’s so funny because it pisses him off so much and I’m like why are you even arguing if you don’t know what you’re talking about?

  • @Seanbo88
    @Seanbo88 Před 2 měsíci

    Just focus on your intent. If you're trying to help someone, trying to make something better, trying to get something done (etc), then you shouldn't be afraid to speak up.

  • @helix577
    @helix577 Před rokem +12

    I love this, Jordan. Thank you for putting this out there into the ether. This little session is exactly what I needed to hear this morning. It is now in my 'favorites' so I can listen to it again for reinforcement. All the best to you, Sir, as always.

  • @Prefernot-e3b
    @Prefernot-e3b Před 4 měsíci +2

    Being a nice guy is not the issue. The issue is that women put high standards in men and lack the confidence in themselves much often. Men don’t want any drama or disrespect and just want to give love calmly which women don’t really understand nor appreciate that. I guess women like toxic things that won’t be beneficial in long term.

    • @Mustafa-gn7pw
      @Mustafa-gn7pw Před 3 měsíci

      I think that by "nice guy" its usualy meant the one who cant speak up for himself when needed and one who goes out of his way to fit in with girl, who doesnt hold his frame, and who looks up to the woman he is with, and that will cause her to lose respect for him. And i think that generally is not good relationship dynamic(even though some couples stay in that dynamics and even spend life together but she will lose respect for him, and he will become resentful). Psychacks channel on yt explains these things pretty well

    • @Prefernot-e3b
      @Prefernot-e3b Před 2 měsíci

      @@Mustafa-gn7pw Nothing is wrong with for not speaking up, if it’s out of nervousness because he likes her so much. If a woman loses respect for him because of trying to get out of his way for her, then that’s her fault totally because she should understand how it works and how special she is to him. Women these days will lose that moment and possibly never to have it again in her lifetime.

  • @RA6162
    @RA6162 Před 13 dny

    Pure genius this man !

  • @darksabzero
    @darksabzero Před rokem +3

    I would be tremendously grateful, if anyone could point me to the actual lecture/video of this topic. It sounds so interesting and I'd like to hear even more!

    • @takeahike2022
      @takeahike2022 Před rokem +2

      Not sure if this is the exact lecture but the playlist has hours of his maps of meaning lectures.
      czcams.com/video/Nb5cBkbQpGY/video.html

    • @darksabzero
      @darksabzero Před rokem

      ​@@takeahike2022 Thank you very much. I'll check it out!

  • @supermansuperman6258
    @supermansuperman6258 Před rokem +1

    The title is over simplification. Not only about nice guy and dating .His words cover for any situation in life. It's a compliment not criticizing.

  • @cosmingal6899
    @cosmingal6899 Před rokem +1

    Wow! Powerfull video. I truly believe im moving from One side of that spectrum to the other One.

  • @Mashfan6507
    @Mashfan6507 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I’m a weird mix of introvert and extrovert. I plan to an extent, and beat myself up a lot, yet don’t have a plan for my life and am still lazy and seek comfort. Idk what to do

  • @yatindrapabbati6878
    @yatindrapabbati6878 Před měsícem

    THIS IS BLOODY ENLIGHTENING

  • @jehushaphat
    @jehushaphat Před rokem +4

    Nice guys are good. The world would be a better place with them. DON'T STOP being a nice guy.

  • @sheldoncooper8199
    @sheldoncooper8199 Před 11 dny

    I ve been highly agreable for 42 Years Didnt Work Out For me NOBODY Respects me. So i should Try Petersons approach.

  • @bossysmaxx3327
    @bossysmaxx3327 Před měsícem

    If I tell the truth the society will kick my family out of everything and my family will suffer.

  • @BenP227
    @BenP227 Před rokem

    I just watched this and enjoyed the information - and read another commenters comment saying this is video is for people looking for purpose in life. Fair play - I’d suggest learning to skateboard to said person truthfully x

  • @simonanardi4312
    @simonanardi4312 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Actually, there’s one flaw: if you’re too agreeable you won’t have deep connections, because if you always try to keep it running smoothly it might always remain on the surface

  • @dalcow1101
    @dalcow1101 Před 5 měsíci

    Speak your mind but do it in a way that it’s respectful at work and be charming … making someone laugh will go a long way. When I got divorced I used this strategy on women and was very blunt in how I felt about them but had a good delivery when I told them.. when I was to nice fresh off divorce it didn’t work for me .. I used the confidence that the speaker is preaching about !! Fellas go to the gym and get your body right and be confident if your single if your trying to find a new wife or GF.. be very blunt but be nice in the delivery and stand up straight and make eye contact !!

  • @LivingBGLegend
    @LivingBGLegend Před rokem

    I love how recent these are, but they'd be useful in decades of the past and for years to come

  • @silveryaero7719
    @silveryaero7719 Před 3 měsíci

    " I want you to be nice until it's time to not be nice." - James Dalton, Road House

  • @rockyblumble
    @rockyblumble Před 2 měsíci

    Being nice isn‘t the problem, you should be nice to people… Just also be capable of not being nice when necessary. That‘s the big jump. When you can control how nice you are in what proportions, people will want to please you

  • @My-Fam
    @My-Fam Před rokem +2

    I can listen to him FOREVER♥️

  • @jady_vanity4015
    @jady_vanity4015 Před rokem +8

    I think most nice guys don’t know how to take things slow or they come on way too strong and that’s what scares women away. I don’t think they realize what they are doing is scary. I have a guy friend who is sort of like that. He says “idk why she’s ghosting me now, I was so nice to her. She said she liked me back but now she changed her mind. I guess being an asshole is the only way to get women.” But then he showed me the texts he sent to this girl to show me that all he did was be sweet to her. and it was something like: “good morning beautiful! I hope you have the most gorgeous day of your life and just know that you’re the prettiest girl I’ve ever seen and I would do anything for you”. And when he said that to her, they were only like 3 days into talking but idk how to tell him he needs to calm down a bit. Yes be nice to her but please learn to calm down and take it slow. This girl he was talking to just wanted to talk for a while before they started dating bc she wasn’t sure yet but she said she liked him. If I got that text from a guy I just started talking to for 3 days I would be a bit scared.

    • @LastBastian
      @LastBastian Před rokem +5

      Yeah, I get what you're saying, but this stuff always seems so weird and complicated. I think I'm a good guy, good looking, good sense of humor etc... And through most of my life I've found again and again that being a good guy, and treating women with respect and affection... *Usually* doesn't work out well.
      I've done experiments where I intentionally present myself as sleezey, douchy, or as bad boy as I can manage... And doing so
      *always* gets me the most attention and affection from women.
      The problem is that I'm not actually a bad boy douche. I want a good lasting family focused relationship with someone who I respect, and who respects me.
      Luckily I eventually met my wife. Although I did entice her with ripped shirtless pics of myself online, lol, ...when we actually met we *both* were very open with our likes and affection for each other. We didn't hold back or "chill out".
      We moved really fast. Like both saying "I love you" on like the second date! I proposed to her after like three weeks.
      We now have three kids, and have been married 16 years. Still in love, she's still my best friend.
      I guess my point, if I have one, is that yeah maybe your friend should learn to not come on quite so strong, but that people should still be themselves, and that there is a chance that someday he might find that girl who isn't scared off by who he is ...and they may be the perfect match for each other.

    • @Brodney81
      @Brodney81 Před rokem +3

      @@LastBastian This is cap. No need to be a douche- just stop putting people more specifically women on a pedestal and they will fall into your lap like crumbs. Literally stop paying attention to women. If u like a chick- show her some attention- not all of it. If you ask a girl out on a date for next Monday- don't text her until Saturday. Then after the date dont text her until the next Monday. Once you live your life and stop paying these women mind youll understand women love attention. And when they get it- you are no longer a challenge for them to overcome. Which is why you have to be picky about who gets your attention and how often

    • @LastBastian
      @LastBastian Před rokem +2

      @@Brodney81 Sorry, I'm not twelve so I'm sure what "cap" means.
      I'm also glad I didn't follow your advice.
      Acting like a douche was an experiment. And it worked *VERY* well.
      However, I stopped the the sleezey act, went back to being myself, and that eventually worked out best in the end, as I found my wife that way. She's absolutely amazing, we've been married sixteen years, still going strong. And I *never* would have landed her following your advice.

    • @solarlight10
      @solarlight10 Před rokem

      All these subtle, complicated social ques are not worth the effort tbh. Most guys are direct, to the point. All this bush beating is very unpleasant. So happy being alone and out of a relationship, it's not for me.

    • @danielmladenow222
      @danielmladenow222 Před rokem

      Lmfaoo

  • @naaD2
    @naaD2 Před 2 měsíci

    I’m an extrovert (as in need socializing to energize myself) but I’m socially awkward so I’m still usually silent in a corner…

  • @licensedprofessional4742

    Wow… perfectly said Jordan Peterson, thank you. 😮😊😅😂🎉

  • @abrahammorales3266
    @abrahammorales3266 Před rokem +2

    Love this!

  • @runhardhooah
    @runhardhooah Před rokem +1

    The whole thing about disagreeableness is much more complex, imo. We cannot work if we're extremely disagreeable. So where does it end? Where is the fine line? What is the recipe for making sure that disagreeable people are agreeable enough? And vice versa.

  • @kristinonymous4630
    @kristinonymous4630 Před rokem +1

    My mom is very passive. She would be apologetic about asking for a straw at a restaurant.

  • @OhgodwhoamI
    @OhgodwhoamI Před 5 měsíci +1

    I never loved the agreeable/disagreeable dichotomy. Agreeable people never get their way and disagreeable people only get their way if they're surrounded by pushovers.
    Creativity is the best tool for resolving disagreements. People get defensive when you tell them their idea stinks. But if you're smart enough to recognize what someone wants and creative enough to come up with an alternate proposal that addressed their needs while alleviating your concerns, you'll gain people's respect and be more likely to get your way.
    There may still be situations where you need to make a stand, but I find most situations in day-to-day personal and professional life aren't really that binary. And if you've built a reputation for yourself as a smart problem solver, people are going to be more likely to listen to you when you actually voice unambiguous disagreement.

  • @DrCrabfingers
    @DrCrabfingers Před měsícem

    He is a force of wisdom isn't he. He is so switched on intellectually and academically that I have to keep pausing to understand the language. I don't think there is any shame in asking someone to stop, whilst I make sure I have a handle on the ideas being proposed. Here it is easy, I can pause the video. But in reality, I'd have to keep asking him to stop speaking whilst I make sure I have entirely understood the idea being suggested. Heh heh...people of great wisdom should be cherished.....I'm thinking of the likes of Carl Sagan, Carl Jung, Jordan Peterson and many others....Albert Einstein....people who make the rest of us just sit down and listen....

  • @teacheralanpessoa
    @teacheralanpessoa Před rokem +23

    Que maravilha, perfeita análise. Consegui enxergar muito da realidade pela qual passei no meu último relacionamento.

  • @Gored1
    @Gored1 Před rokem +7

    I enjoy being a nice guy. I am not going to change from nice so I can fit in with a world of douche bags. If someone has a problem with a nice guy(seems most men and women these days) they aren't worth wasting breath on.

    • @greymask8936
      @greymask8936 Před rokem +5

      Being a “nice” guy is not a good thing. As someone who has been recently suffering from what I like to coin as ‘nice guy syndrome’ it will eventually come to bite you back in the ass.
      It’s great to be nice and caring and I urge you to continue on that path, but when coming into conflict with people that will invenviteably be more blunt and disagreeable, it will cause hell to swallow you.
      At the the end of it all you will have to be mean sometimes, you will have to be crude and hurtful, you will have to do these things because sometimes the pain of the short term may be much more helpful in the long term. This applies to you and a person you will eventually either hurt or have to be forceful or assertive with.
      A nice man is not exactly a good man, how could they be when being passive can do more harm than good.

  • @Sprintgin599
    @Sprintgin599 Před rokem +31

    Not religious but the devil is real the fact you can’t be genuinely good to get good things in life explains it’s existence

    • @omnipresent417
      @omnipresent417 Před rokem +7

      Lmao there are so many holes in this argument 🤣

    • @joshualibretto
      @joshualibretto Před rokem

      Yes

    • @mad2317
      @mad2317 Před rokem +1

      If you had thought about that statement for a second, you would have realised that it is utter nonsense.

    • @Sprintgin599
      @Sprintgin599 Před rokem +3

      @@omnipresent417 I hope you aren’t grown bc if so your clearly remedial bc it’s not an argument. Definitely an opinion. I like how mfs wanna argue about someone else’s perception like you’ve been seeing every second of my life

    • @Sprintgin599
      @Sprintgin599 Před rokem

      The video is stupid bc he’s tryna game you sorry mfs to get chicks but he isn’t telling you that these cum dumps will take everything you got and brainwash your kids. That’s why the devil is real it will take good things and mind rape you and you can’t do a damn thing about it.

  • @LtVictor
    @LtVictor Před 3 měsíci +1

    I'm here because i lost the love of my life by being a nice guy and not pushing when I should have for a girl.

  • @jimgodofbiscuits
    @jimgodofbiscuits Před 5 měsíci +1

    Many people want to help others and be agreeable. THAT is their goal and life's work. God bless those people.
    As for marriage, out here in the real world while working in a very co-ed environment it is obvious women often start with an "alpha". At that point it's about manliness and thinking he is a protector until some years in, they realize he is a child for life and a pos. Have seen this play out So many times.

    • @novelaego2404
      @novelaego2404 Před 5 měsíci

      so just goes with the beta, and get tired of that

    • @jimgodofbiscuits
      @jimgodofbiscuits Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@novelaego2404 Goes for a strong but humble before God and decent man.

  • @jdnrotterdam2150
    @jdnrotterdam2150 Před rokem

    I am a agreeable person. And I’m literally that man on the thumbnail … i don’t like conflicts. I have problems in my marriage and my wife don’t know if she wants to be with me anymore and i’m the one that is trying to do everything to save it

  • @user-qr7ee2cp4y
    @user-qr7ee2cp4y Před rokem +7

    Don't stop being a nice guy... stop living in a one sided relationship.

  • @Ordinal_Yoda
    @Ordinal_Yoda Před rokem +2

    Well said

  • @amacgregor92
    @amacgregor92 Před rokem +1

    Looks like Kermit had too many fights with Ms. Piggy

  • @dark12ain
    @dark12ain Před rokem +4

    Lol I'm the nice guy and I honestly don't know how to be mean, my body and conscious doesnt allow me to be mean or hurtful to people. But I do notice I'm always finishing last. And I'm starting to hate this about myself. Nobody respects you when you are nice and respectful I wonder why that is. ESPECIALLY FEMALES

    • @chucklos391
      @chucklos391 Před rokem +11

      This would take too much to write, but really pay attention to what Peterson says in the video and try to identify the patterns and trait of agreeable people you might find in yourself. Change those. I used to be one of these people. No longer. At the workplace I’m not afraid to say what’s really on my mind and this applies to women as well. Say what you truly feel and want. Even if you think it might cause disruption or conflict. You might be that guy who is always available and drop everything to be with someone. No more of that. If they did something that you truly don’t like, say so. Don’t always be quick to respond to text messages. At your convenience. Maybe even disappear for a bit and say you were busy. Women like a little challenge. You would be surprised. Take charge of situations or even dates. Decide where you’re going. Don’t be that “what should we do today?” guy.

    • @dark12ain
      @dark12ain Před rokem

      @@chucklos391 damn bro I just want to truly thank you for this. I see some things in here that I do myself like when you said don't be the ok where are we going today guy. I do that all the time. I just don't go out and don't really know what to do when I go out

    • @Orthuzz
      @Orthuzz Před rokem

      do u work out? It may help you in this too

  • @Theiron77104
    @Theiron77104 Před rokem +6

    Told my employer what I felt about the task got fired literally

  • @kulsevdasi
    @kulsevdasi Před rokem

    Imho what people are denigrating as "nice guy" is "insincere boot licker who says yes to everything to serve his selfish needs". That isn't a true good heart. I agree, I just think the term should be insincere or suckup instead of "nice."

  • @rachelpiercy731
    @rachelpiercy731 Před 2 měsíci

    I avoid disagreeable people …. I find them egotistical , pushy and bullies ….

  • @jeronimotamayolopera4834

    I'LL NEVER TELL YOU THE TRUTH JORDAN. I LOVE YOU.

  • @johnathanprice8255
    @johnathanprice8255 Před měsícem

    I'm scared that being the nice guy is gonna short my family. And i don't wanna live with myself if they don't have anything anyone else has and it's my fault.

  • @elchiponr1
    @elchiponr1 Před rokem +3

    Why is Joe Rogan in the thumbnail?

  • @theepicdevil7892
    @theepicdevil7892 Před rokem

    People can do wat they want why would I not be passive only to for it to be thrown in my face later down the line and in reality if you need to control someone to love them then it was never live it’s better being passive you get to see people for who they really are

  • @allanfifield8256
    @allanfifield8256 Před rokem

    He is The Man, If we had 10,000 of him . . .

  • @CostaAldo-fp7fc
    @CostaAldo-fp7fc Před 2 měsíci

    So how to learn those traits? I was expecting him giving us tasks, practical advices, how to practice and solve the problems. Anyone any sources? How to talk in public or to anyone and not hiding in a party and be more disagreeable and less people pleasing.

  • @zykis999
    @zykis999 Před rokem

    I feel that topic 100% for me

  • @WiscoFisherman93
    @WiscoFisherman93 Před rokem +2

    Misleading title for the video

  • @michaeljeffery7466
    @michaeljeffery7466 Před rokem +1

    Interesting.

  • @juliamartin9047
    @juliamartin9047 Před rokem

    Ahab was completely agreeable

  • @DarrthFaderr
    @DarrthFaderr Před 5 měsíci

    I feel like I’m slipping on my consciences and I don’t want to go down that path bc I could be going towards physchopath

  • @ricasso777
    @ricasso777 Před 3 měsíci +1

    The root meaning of nice in Latin is ignorance. Dont be ignorant

  • @Rainfur10
    @Rainfur10 Před rokem

    I can't ignore the minor key "twinkle twinkle little star" melody playing in the background.

  • @MrDizzyD2
    @MrDizzyD2 Před rokem +1

    Fear no human or situation and just giver

  • @EGZODYA
    @EGZODYA Před 2 měsíci

    dont listen anyone be yourself

  • @MrGreen876
    @MrGreen876 Před rokem

    To think this very lesson is what got him banned and in need of 're education'

    • @GloryBlazer
      @GloryBlazer Před 3 měsíci

      There's no way this got him banned wtf ? Please tell me you are joking

  • @ataisher100
    @ataisher100 Před rokem

    you could say be kind not nice and othere is a difference between the two

  • @bluepen215
    @bluepen215 Před rokem

    Life changing 🙌

  • @cjjgclasica
    @cjjgclasica Před rokem +7

    No wonder the world is plenty of brutality and impoliteness.

  • @Bricatao
    @Bricatao Před 3 měsíci

    why the heck I finished again in this jordan peterson youtube rabbit hole

  • @987P123
    @987P123 Před rokem +1

    why is Joe Rogan in the thumbnail

  • @SkuzzelB8
    @SkuzzelB8 Před rokem

    Agreeable behavior falls into the path of order. Disagreeable behavior falls into the path of chaos. You cannot weigh heavy to one or the other. It is both man and womens responsibility to balance the two within his or her self. Men are inheritly disagreeable, women are inheritly agreeable. This makes perfect sense because the male is better suited to transforming chaos into order and the female stays sane, protected and happy in a world of order.

    • @GloryBlazer
      @GloryBlazer Před 3 měsíci

      it is not a rule that women are disagreeable and men are agreeable, there is just a positive correlation

  • @evolver5379
    @evolver5379 Před měsícem

    6:47 6:51 6:53 6:55 ❤❤❤❤

  • @user-wk6lj5wh1y
    @user-wk6lj5wh1y Před 5 měsíci

    Charts and graphs

  • @laurensjanssen4384
    @laurensjanssen4384 Před 5 měsíci

    Really one of the most valuable persons alive

  • @evolver5379
    @evolver5379 Před měsícem

    6:26

  • @evolver5379
    @evolver5379 Před měsícem

    7:08 7:11 7:18

  • @noahmount5389
    @noahmount5389 Před rokem

    Ngl I'm kinda feeling called out because he described me and I lit up then he called people like that a psychopath 🙃

  • @evolver5379
    @evolver5379 Před měsícem

    7:00 7:04😊

  • @BuyWonderBread
    @BuyWonderBread Před rokem

    im just starting but thank you

  • @nickhutchinson9068
    @nickhutchinson9068 Před rokem +4

    I disagree

    • @MasteryOrder
      @MasteryOrder Před rokem

      Use great ideas to build yourself into a man of strength and character, a man of your word, skilful and with a purpose that also serves the ones around you as well.
      If you enjoy topics about masculinity and mastery, I invite you to explore the videos I share on the Mastery Order Channel.
      Challenge yourself with some concepts about manhood, explore your masculine potential to the maximum and become the kind of man you would admire.
      We can only better ourselves together, as men among men, so I invite you to use what I share and, of course, share your own opinions so that others can benefit from them as well.
      All the best to you!

  • @agnogh1
    @agnogh1 Před rokem

    Holly smokes. The number of things I have related between this video and my life and people I work with is scary.