Devoted to ‘trendy issues’: Catholics feeling ‘alienated’ by Pope Francis
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- Sky News Australia and The Spectator Australia contributor Rocco Loiacono says many people in the Catholic church feel “alienated” by Pope Francis.
“The Catholic church, rather than trying to hold fast to values and its counter-cultural nature and standing up for Catholics around the world, is actually really devoted to secularism and climate change and all these other trendy issues, thinking that, that’s going to open up the church,” Mr Loiacono told Sky News Australia.
“The Pope himself says well look the church is for everyone but unfortunately many people in the church feel alienated by this Pope.”
The Catholic Church's Rite of Exorcism is written in Latin. Satan and his demons hate and cannot stand Latin.
Holy Mother Mary, ora pro nobis.
Wef puppet
Definitely. They purchased the papacy
I can still sing the Latin mass, John Paul I miss you.
There is nothing more beautiful than to sing Regina Coeli at the end of Mass
Lots of us sing it every Sunday. I’ll be at a Latin Mass in about eight hours.
You miss a Catholic pope!
John Paul 1 was pope for less than a month. He was destined to be one of the most liberal popes ever.Rita you talk rubbish . You have as much knowledge of the Catholic Church as a frog.
He has said nothing either about the persecution of Christians in Ukraine by Zalensky's government
So say fascists who lie for Putin.
@@seandelap8587
Zalensky another Popes lackey!
That's what Catholicism is founded in mate. Learn history.
Look to the Archbishop of Canterbury and how far that got him.
He’s not acting like a pope, he’s acting like a puppet
Indeed, he is the puppet of the elite.
His behavior is very antithetical to scripture. I would urge people to stay away from the Pope…
No, it is not. Pope Francis stays within orthodox Catholic doctrine.
Pope Francis is a great Pope. Leave us Catholics alone and stick to your religion.
@@NickFromDetroitdelusional
@@soldierofmary984he isn’t Catholic, tho. That’s the issue.
@@testerbend9473 , Name one heretical teaching Papa Francesco has made?
You mean a Jesuit isn't abiding with the doctrine? SHOCKER. Never should have elevated a Jesuit. It always ends up crippling the Church & twists the doctrine.
There are many good Jesuits in the church. You just have to look for them.
And Pope Francis has never taught anything against Church doctrine. He is totally orthodox.
@@NickFromDetroit Jesuits are known for putting politics to the front & following those instead of doctrine. Exactly what he's doing now. The strength of the Catholic Church is its endurance even as different political parties rise & fall. It's what has allowed it to spread worldwide without being banned in very many countries.
@@Frecks-n-Specks, The strength of the Catholic Church is the Holy Ghost, Who protects Her from teaching error; and Christ Who founded Her apon the Rock, Saint Cephas (Peter).
The Jesuits who I read & listen to promote the Gospel of Christ, defend Church teachings, and how they fit into today’s world, including politics. Pope Saint John Paul II & Benedict XVI had much to say about modern politics, also.
@@NickFromDetroit Jesuits have always been progressively liberal and walked both sides of being officially named heretics by the Church. You do what you feel is the best religious beliefs for you. It doesn't change historical and modern facts though.
Haha. Great comment. You obviously have done your homework about the jesuits.
Excellent questions Rita
The head of the snake
he is the puppet of satan ,the final pope will be the Antichrist man beast,he will be killed and come back to life with satan in him, he will miss lead the whole world ,he will implement the quantum dot tattoo ,the mark of the beast
Least "catholic" pope in history
You need to read more Church history. There were many popes that didn’t practice the Catholic faith.
God chose these Popes for a reason therefore we cannot judge . We must respect the Office of Saint Peter . Yes - you do need to read Church History to know about the line of Popes .
He is very good and Holy. Just stick to your religion and leave us Catholics alone.
@@soldierofmary984 I see your point but we must be like Christ 🙏🏼✨🕊️
“My brothers, if anyone among you should stray from the truth and someone bring him back, he should know that whoever brings back a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.”
James 5:19-20
According to what standard?
This Pope is ruining our Catholic religion.
Y'all did that to yourselves with your bad behavior
Non believers are growing indifferent and there's a growing refusal to give your religion and honestly most religions the benefit of the doubt
The Pope wouldn't have felt the need to redefine Catholic principles if y'all were to have been decent ones in the first place
Leave us Catholics alone. He is a great Pope. Nobody is forcing you to leave your protestant faith.
@@user-kk6vq3lm2pso, what indecent beliefs do Catholics have please?
@@user-kk6vq3lm2p troll bot located
Yes he is.
Jorge Borgolio is the Usurper of the Seat of Saint Peter the Apostle and our Catholic First Pope‼️
✝️🙏🏼🛐 Pray for his MASSIVE CONVERSION ‼️
I really like Pope Francis. Perhaps just stick to your religion and leave the Catholics alone.
Then, you are saying that Christ lied, in Matthew 16, when He said that the Gates of Hades would not prevail against His Church.
Be careful of the sinful things you say online.
@@NickFromDetroitand the Gates of hell will not prevail!!
Francis is allowed by God as a test for a lukewarm Church!!
As Our Lord suffered Judas amongst His 12 Apostles, what are you surprised at?
After the ‘death’ of the Church, comes the Resurrection, following the pattern of Our Lord’s Life.
Hang around, you might be surprised!
@@soldierofmary984oSorry, the above comment is for you!
@@sherylward5417 , The Church is protected from teaching error by the Holy Ghost, not men.
Judas was a complete apostate from the Faith. Francis is nowhere even close to an apostate or heretic. Bad analogy.
There is no death & resurrection of the Church, that is not Catholic teaching. There will be a great tribulation, the Day of the Lord, i.e., the Final Judgement, the heavens & earth are destroyed, and the New Jerusalem becomes the home of the saved.
I suggest that Catholics who are attached to the Latin Mass and are forced to attend the karaoke chaos of the new Mass should make their responses in Latin and continue to behave reverently to the sacred host by kneeling and receiving only from a consecrated priest. The Pope has no comprehension of the profound significance of the traditional Mass. He wants to substitute the fast food of the new Mass for the home cooked nutrition of the old.
That's what I do already
I would say defund the heretics, use social media to organize an independent group and TLM religious similar to the SSPX. They fear an empty collection plate most of all.
Not my Pope. Climate 🤡.
Of ourselves he is not your Pope. Automatic excommunication once a Catholic speaks the way you speak.
@@soldierofmary984, Not true. Not an automatic excommunication.
@@soldierofmary984 Hahaha. Bergoglio himself said no one can be cut off from the Body of Christ. Ergo, excommunication, (by Bergoglio's line of reasoning), means bupkis.
What you should be doing is praying to God to send Catholics a Catholic Pope.
@NickFromDetroit I thought this means automatic excommunication but I could be wrong.
Can. 1364- § 1. An apostate from the faith, a heretic or a schismatic incurs a latae sententiae excommunication, without prejudice to the provision of can. 194 § 1 n. 2; he or she may also be punished with the penalties mentioned in can. 1336 §§ 2-4.
@@soldierofmary984 What's the punishment for protecting and enabling pedos?
Francis should have stayed in the jungle.
When I saw Biden & the pope touching, I became VERY concerned. ⚠️
Don't be. The Big Guy just used the pope's head to stop him from falling over!
@@buttercup4123
Indeed , it’s very symbolic, whether they know it or not.
When I saw him smack that lady's hand away, I wasn't surprised.
Jesus gave his life for everyone.
The Pope pushes them away.
@@markentwist
It has nothing to do with anything like that .
It is complex to explain .
Suffice it to say that The Roman Catholic system is regaining power that it lost in 1798 at the hands of Napoleon Bonaparte, it symbolises the joining together of church and state even though the American constitution prohibits such maneuverers , they are ignoring it and making deals against the people , this to essentially bring about a return to the dark ages before the reformation of Martin Luther .
A tyranny beginning in America and gradually migrating around the world. America establishing an image to the Papacy of persecution and an iron fist approach.
It is already beginning with the Roman Catholic version of Ten Commandments being mandated into public schools, starting as a rolling grain of sand to end up being a boulder smashing through and dictating the conscience.
These are the facts in brief.
Biden went to sniff Francis's hairr and was dissapounted to find none.
Worst. Pope. Ever!
No you are wrong. He is loved by many.
You know nothing about Catholic history, then.
@@soldierofmary984+JMJ We love him too. But he should resign and repent.
@@brianbacon5149 wow so this is normal to speak this way about the Vicar of christ.
@@soldierofmary984 +JMJ Are you not even aware that Bergoglio renounces the title Vicar of Christ? He has dropped it. There is plenty of probable cause that Bergoglio has committed criminal acts in harboring sex abusers and in financial corruption. He is on the record with heresy. Aquinas and Cajetan, both saints counsel that an errant pope cannot be pope if he is a heretic, but he only can be removed by the Lord. They also advise that the Faithful have a duty to point out the error and resist it. I pray the Lord oust Bergoglio and that Bergoglio repent and convert back to the Faith.
We miss you JP2😕
❤
Yes, we do.
A wolf in sheep's clothing. Francis isn't what people "think" or "want" him to be. Question everything.
Question Christ & the Gospel? I don’t think so.
Watch out for Papa's black eye.
Is the Pope catholic?
Are you Freemason?
Are you?
Not this one.
No, he is not!
@@leighmiller4407 , No, you are not!
Alienated is a polite minimal way of what people feel
Dodgy dangerous power freak … no sign of a Holy Man in him. I have lost all respect for him. Time to go Bergolio
The Roman Catholic church lost much of its credibility centuries ago when there was the 1054 Great Schism (aka West-East Schism) between it and the Eastern Orthodox churches. The Eastern Orthodox churches (Greek and Russian being the two main ones) are more in touch with the teachings of the original followers of Christ and Christ Himself. Mind you the Eastern Orthodox churches are not perfect either as they too have their faults but not as serious as those of the modern Roman Catholic church.
If the Eastern Orthodox churches where so much in line with apostolic teaching, why didn’t they do a better job of spreading the Gospel eastward to Persia, India, China, etc.? Why did God allow the Moslems to push the patriarch out of Constantinople & defile the Hagia Sophia?
@@NickFromDetroit That's because the Eastern Orthodox churches were more interested in focusing on their own people, which is sad. They should have spread the Gospel to all nations, not just the locals. As I said, they were not perfect.
@@user-zh5ri2fx8t , As Christ said, “By your fruits, you shall know them.” The Western, Latin Church spread the Gospel around the world. Today, the Roman, Latin-rite Church has over 1.3 billion members. To me, that is proof that the Eastern Orthodox schism was wrong to separate from leadership of the Bishop of Rome.
This pope actually is not Catholic. The evidence is overwhelming.
He ackshually is Catholic. You have absolutely no evidence to the contrary.
But it’s fun to type asinine untruths, isn’t it?
Far right wing Catholics are not christian in any sense. The evidence is overwhelming.
He was installed to ruin the Church.
He told Eugenio Scalfari he doesn't even believe in the divinity of Jesus.
@@user-tv6vv5rb8v , You believe the memory of a 90+ yo atheist over the Holy Father.
That shows where your heart is.
Actually he is like Biden
Our last pope died a long time ago
Then, you are saying that Christ lied when He said that the Gates of Hades would never prevail against His Church founded on The Rock, Saint Cephas, Simon Peter.
@@NickFromDetroit+JMJ. He never said that. But he's not wrong given Bergoglio 's actions in pointing out the actions and asking whether Bergoglio believes in Christ and His teaching.
@@brianbacon5149 , Those who claim that Papa Francesco is not a valid pope, all sedevacanists really, are, in effect, calling Christ a liar. Because it would mean that His promises for His Church, e.g., the gates of Hades not prevailing against Her, that the Holy Ghost would protect Her from errors, that all those promises were lies.
There is absolutely no reason or evidence to question Francis’ belief in Christ.
I am surprised he has not been seen wearing his new rainbow themed robes.
Stop your nonsense.
@@markentwist, More anti-Catholic bigotry, eh?
@@markentwist , You do not sound very Catholic. All of the popes for the past two-and-half centuries have been excellent. You should try reading some of their great writings sometime. They are available at the Vatican’s website. Don’t let any mistakes by your parents keep you from the One, True, Holy, Apostolic Church founded by Christ.
The black pope
the black pope is ATURA SOSA .He is the evil white pope ,they work together
Woke money
Woeful Pope Woke. May God bless Pope Francis with an irresistible urge to resign ... asap.
He always gave me the creeps. Like Satan in holy dress.
Anti-Catholic bigots give me the creeps.
@@markentwist , They’re called vestments, actually.
@@markentwist , Yes, I remember that movie. Just informing you that they are not robes.
@@NickFromDetroit But they're also not dresses.
@@NickFromDetroitFrancis indeed anti-catholic.
I recognise Pope Vigano. I have no other pope
Vigano is not the pope. You are a heretic.
Definitely not a pope but he is the actually-Catholic church leader with the most seniority.
The richest religion on Earth is led by a human who parades around like he is God.
Nope.
I worship the humble Jesus who suffered in agony, lived like a pauper, and died in horrific pain on the cross before giving his soul up to the Father, for us.
The Catholic Church does more to help the poor than any organization in the world.
I guess you never seen depictions of the Jewish high priest or the fact that God ordered them to coat the temple in pure gold. By the way, the Vatican is not the richest religion. If you want to see a rich religion look at the church of England, Mormons and seventh Day Adventists.
I did not realise that so many people understood Latin in these days and times?
It’s not a matter of understanding the Latin language. The English translations of the prayers are included in the Tridentine missals. It’s the opportunity to pray the Rosary or contemplate in silence as the priest recites the liturgical prayers. It allows the Mass to be more meditative.
Yes, I’ve been to one recently and it’s very beautiful. It’s all about reverence and adoration of Jesus as it should be.
We use the Missal, the laity respond at the high mass, the priest speaks Latin as part of the mass, the homily and readings are in the vernacular.
Tell us about the nasty (sic) gold at Fatima....
the evil pope
You sound like an evil Freemason.
Pope Francis was elected to clean up the Vatican bank and clear out the Roman Curia. I wish he would get back to that needed mission.
No Pell was doing that till the jail thing and then he was murdered
@@tobyargall8202, Wrong. Cardinal Pell was the third attempt.
And he was not murdered.
Do not bear false witness.
@@tobyargall8202exactly.
@@NickFromDetroitreally, Nick from Detroit? Again, living under a rock.
@@testerbend9473 , No, living my Catholic Faith.
Rebuking those who bear false witness & are guilty of the sins of detraction & calumny against the Holy Father.
Gosh. Earth shatteringly important.
Corruption is the bedrock of the Catholic Church...
Christ never promised perfect leaders for His Church.
Scandal of the Church
KJV Revelation 13
A Beast from the Sea
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Revelation 13:1 - 10
This symbol, as most Protestants have believed, represents the papacy, which succeeded to the power and seat and authority once held by the ancient Roman empire. Of the leopardlike beast it is declared: "There was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies. . . . And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, and His tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations." This prophecy, which is nearly identical with the description of the little horn of Daniel 7, unquestionably points to the papacy. {GC 439}
Saint John’s Apocalypse was about the events that lead up to complete destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem. The beast from the sea represents the Roman emperors who persecuted the Catholic Church in the 40 years from Christ’s Crucifixion until the Temple’s destruction, the “generation” Christ talks about in “The Little Apocalypse” (Matthew 24). Especially, Emperor Nero, whose name adds up to Six Hundred Sixty Six. The beast from the land represented the Herodian kings, who held power at the whim of the Roman emperors.
@@NickFromDetroit Whatever floats you're boat by the way popes are just a continuation of Roman Emperors so if you're passages are disparaging Cesars you are only disparaging popes.
BhaShavall saha aksara nathiva sangeethayak koo
HERITIC
Proove it? He hasn't taught heresy so far. He is a great Pope.
Name one heresy Papa Francesco has taught?
@@NickFromDetroit He approves of same sex marriage in the church.It is against the Canon laws of the church. What more do you need to know.
@@anthonysafos4819 , No, he does not. Citation/source please?
Pope Francis is trying to stop the heterodox German bishops pushing their radical Synodal Way.
@@anthonysafos4819, I’m still waiting for a quotation and source
People who are older, and have been Catholic all their lives and over many generations, would be more likely to want TLM, since they are more familiar with it and embrace it, not the naive young with their families, so what your guest espouses is specious logic at best
The TLM my fimily attends is packed with young large families and very few old people. Same as most TLMs.
Those who still remember the Mass in Latin are well into their 60s, today. My sister & brother-in-law, who have 8 children, only attend the Tridentine Mass. We are in our 50s.
And it is not “specious logic.” There are data to prove that Tridentine Masses are full of younger married couples with children.
It is the Protestant-lite Novus Ordo Masses, with the guitar bands & terrible music, that are full of gray haired, childless, heterodox “Catholics.”
@@NickFromDetroit I’m also a Rocket Scientist and Astronaut, so I believe I know a hell of a lot more about Logic than you do, plus I don’t have grey hair, and if I ever find a Wife I could have children and attend Latin Mass
@@robertkemper5193 , You don’t sound like you know anything about logic. Or, the Catholic Faith.
Or, else, you’d know that you don’t need a wife & children to attend the Tridentine rite.
@@NickFromDetroit You POS, go to Hell, stop trolling me or else
THEY SHOULDN'T BE WORSHIPPING HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE NOR CALLING HIM HOLY FATHER ONLY OUR CREATOR IN HEAVEN DESERVES TO BE CALLED HOLY FATHER NOT A MERE MAN THAT DIES AND IS FALLIBLE FULL OF WICKEDNESS AND SIN AND IS ANTICHRIST TO THE CREATOR OF THE BIBLE
Catholics do not worship the pope as a god.
WE DO NOT WORSHIP THE POPE. THERE IS ONLY ONE MEDIATOR
@@NickFromDetroit+JMJ I dunno. I think hyperpapalists do.
What is the sense of saying a "mass" in a language (1 Cor. 14:6-11) no one understands? You cannot find a Bible in a Catholic Church, and neither can you find the sacrifice of God's Son over and over each Sunday:
HEBREWS 7:27
But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. 25Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he *ever liveth to make intercession for them.* 26For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; *27Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.*
HEBREWS 9:11-12
But *Christ being come an high priest of good things to come,* by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; 12Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood *he entered in once into the holy place,* having obtained eternal redemption for us.
HEBREWS 9:24-26
For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: *25Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;* 26For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: *but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.*
Latin is our language.
@@dismemba Your comment is in English.
Latin is a language and no less legitimate that English.
The missals for Latin Tridentine Masses have both Latin & English in them.
Those verses from the letter to the Hebrews do not mean what you think they mean.
That’s why you need the Catholic Church, to teach you what they really mean.
@@chadmeidl1140Because Latin is the language of the Church and we don't use it on a daily basis. Don't think people are smart enuf to use it nowadays.
Leave the Catholic faith alone. Stop talking about it on skynews. This is nothing but revenge.
+JMJ Hyperpapalism was condemned in Lumen Gentium, the Dogmatic Constitution of the Church. The pope is subject to that Constitution. I pray the Lord deliver the Church from the criminal and heretical Bergoglio.
Pope Francis, the apostate.
I'm still waiting for someone to show me in the Bible, where it says to 'pray the rosary'. Book, Chapter, Verse, please.
I'm still waiting for someone to show me in the Bible, where it says to pray to Mary. Book, Chapter, Verse, please.
I'm still waiting for someone to show me in the Bible where it's now okay to make image and idols, in contravention of the 2nd Commandment, because the Catholic churches are full of such images and idols. Book, Chapter, Verse, please.
Papa Francesco has always taught orthodox Catholic dogma.
Show me in the Sacred Scriptures the word the “Trinity”? Or, the “rapture”? Or, salvation by faith “alone”?
Right after God gave Moses the 10 Commandments & the laws of the covenant (Exodus 20-23), God described the construction of the sacred Tabernacle & liturgy. The first was the construction of the Ark of the Covenant (Exodus 25), and on the Mercy Seat God commanded Moses to make two statues of golden cherubim (Ex. 25:18-19). God has no problem with statues & images as long as they are not worshiped as gods, as if a god lived inside the idol. Catholics do not do this with statues.
There are several levels of Christian worship. There is worship (to give worth to someone) that is due only to God (latria in Latin). There is worship that is due to the saints & martyrs (dulia in Greek). And there is the worship due to The Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God (hyperdulia in Greek). Then there’s the worship for inanimate objects connected to Christ & the saints, e.g., The Cross, bones/body parts, clothing, etc.
The Rosary begins with the words, “Hail Mary, Full of Grace…” Taken straight from Luke 1:28, it is the Archangel Gabriel’s greeting to Our Lady. By saluting her, the angel is saying that she is above him in rank & that she is sinless because she is “Full of Grace,” she can’t receive any more grace. We Catholics do not worship Mary as God, she is a creature like us. And all praying means is to ask somebody for something.
@@NickFromDetroitthe rapture is in Revelations.
@@Gavin-qh7li, No, it is not.
Chapter & verse, please?
Still no response, eh? Figures.
@@Gavin-qh7li, I’m still waiting for that chapter & verse…..
This is very sad of Sky News. At least get the fact right. The Pope has been very outspoken against persecution in Nigeria. I am a Nigeria, and I feel very supported by Pope Francis.
Pope Francis is a wonderful pope. He prays not only for Catholics, but for all people on earth. Who feels alienated? Those handful of unfortunate people who have not repented of their pride. We all must follow Pope Francis, we must listen to his words about modern problems. Will we be Christians if we don't try to make this world a better place? And we make this world a better place. Quietly, without loud words. And aren’t you, the hosts of this program, ashamed for mocking a holy man, an elderly old man, who is also praying for you, so that you forsake your sins and repent before God? I wish you sober up.
Pope Anus the first
He's still a priest. We should have some respect just like Christ respected Judas.
I love Pope Francis and many Catholics do. Please stop lying
He excommunicated Archbishop Vigano. I am a practising Catholic. Jorge is not JESUS CHRIST nor does he represent him. His is a heretic and a fool
+JMJ Hyperpapalism was condemned in Lumen Gentium, the Dogmatic Constitution of the Church. The pope is subject to that Constitution. I pray the Lord deliver the Church from the criminal and heretical Bergoglio.
All a scam whole system is a scam
Don't know that one mate
You hum it I'll play it!