The Art Of Meditation with Samaneri Jayasāra
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- My guest today is Samaneri Jayasāra. Samaneri is a Buddhist nun and spiritual teacher. Her CZcams channel where she shares her lectures has over 80,000 subscribers.
In this episode, Samaneri and I discuss the purpose of meditation, the true nature of emotions, the core teachings of Buddhism, the illusion of boredom, the difference between Buddhism and the Abrahamic religions, the possibility of enlightenment, the cycle of pleasure and pain, and much more.
Check out Samaneri Jayasāra's Channel :
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Any time I'm looking for an obscure ass Buddhist book from 500 years ago on CZcams I find her voice which is why I consider her a teacher regardless of her use of others words to do so
Thank you, Colman, for introducing me to this teacher. My ability to meditate and be with my suffering is altered. My sense of peace and joy were quickly uncovered. Somehow listening to this interview opened the door to meditation for me!
To you as well, my best wishes.
Being a fan of both Coleman Hughes and Samaneri Jayasara, I was very happy to see this interview pop up on my feed. Her CZcams channel is amazing! I've been listening to the videos pertaining to Christian Mysticism for a couple months now.
Loving these non-culture war topics Coleman! That other stuff and your takes on all of it are great too, but these new guests and topics showcase your range and are a nice change of pace. Keep it up!
Oh my dear Samaneri
You’ve been and are such a beautiful guide on my path.
I simple adore you and your dharma.
Group practice with you has been wonderful and I look forward too many more. I’ve been listening for years and although the world itself is exactly the same, the way I perceive it has been and continues too change too a view of miraculous.
Great interview Coleman.
Never been to your channel and I have enjoyed my first visit for sure.
Thank you for this wonderful interview with a woman I absolutely adore. ❤
Our species actions are often insane. Awareness and Awakening are perhaps a door to humankind’s redemption. Allowing Non identification of our illusionary Ego might regain our sanity.
I first heard of her via Sam Harris' Waking Up app. Wonderful teacher. I listen to her almost every night.
I'm Australian. I've been listening to Samaneri Jayasara for some time now. I particularly enjoy listening to her as I go to sleep at night. . I am most fond of the yogic texts she reads from. My favourite is Sri Ramana Maharshi. The combination of her lyrical, soothing, angelic sounding voice, the words she reads from the texts, the long pauses she does in between sentences and the sound of the music she plays, put me into a deep, hypnotic trance that ends by me falling asleep. I am even still able to hear her whilst I am half asleep/half awake during the night,, and the message from the texts enters my mind more deeply allowing me to acquire a deeper understanding of their meaning due to being in a hypnagogic state of mind while the track keeps playing. It is similar to a stoned effect from using marijuana. I gain deep, deep insights as they bubble up on their own from my subconscious and into my conscious feld of awareness: moving from the prajna level (deep sleep), up through taijasa level (dreaming), into into the umani (reverie) transition level, before finally entering into my conscious vaishvanara (wakefulness) level. The state I enter and the experience is no different to meditating whilst seated in complete silence
I studied to become a yoga teacher in the traditional inner (antar) yoga of the sages, specifically the Himilayan tradition, a lineage of the Bharati line, the line that Swami Rama was on and stretches back in an unbroken line all the way back 5,000 years to the Sage Vyasa, considered to be the adi yogi {first yogi in the flesh}, after the first yogi of them all, Lord Shiva. I am now a student of Swami Jnaneshvara Bharati of the Abhyasa Ashram, a monk initiated by Swami Rama, who can be found online in many places, that I will list at the end of my comment, .
I don't practice or teach yoga asanas (the physical postures) They are not yoga but a Western way of yoga "poses" (asanas), a false practice that is only about 40 years old and a method literally invented for western students by Krishnamacharya, for the large number of students flocking in droves to his shala during the hippy 60's decade.
Students who had undisciplined minds, restless bodies, self-centred tendencies, unrealistic expectations, filthy habits wity highly unregulated lifestyles, demanding to be taught the same spiritual practices as the Beatles, who were travelling to India during the period, something trendy at the time, to learn the ancient and mysterious practice of Transcendental Meditation to help them with the creative aspect of their art by means of methods other than psychedelics. Bored, misinformed and instant gratification/pleasure seeking westerners, with the short attention span of a toddler, no history of spiritual practice, no understanding of the teacher/student relationship (only the Western model of education, one without respect for teachers, puts students at the centre, who demand respect and authority but give non to the teacher), no knowledge of how the lineage tradition or the oral tradition work nor any respect or reverence for them, no understanding of the Indian culture/history or the history of the six schools of Indian philosophy. Aha! Fake news and misinformation existed way back in the 60's!!
Krishnamacharya's problem was their oppressive dislike of boring meditation alone and their constant complaints about it to him. As a compassionate being, he meditated on it and was given the solution - combine it with a physical practice to keep their undiscipline minds and restless bodies interested and maintain their attention. (Which is what meditation is fundamentally all about anyway: the regular training and discipline of one's attention progressively through five different levels of awareness until samadhi is reached {all seven levels of that final level alone exist!!}. Once samadhi is experienced, the final level of turiya can then be reached and Enlightenment is finally attained). So he created his asana system (asana means "seat" and only ever referred to your seated meditation posture, of which there about only 5-6 to choose from).
He went on to train what would be three hugely popular and successful teachers in their own right, who individually took his humble method, modified it and adapted it go suit the unique needs of the students turning up at their own schools. BKS Iyengar (Iyengar physiotherapy method), Sri Pattabhi Jois (astanga vinyasa method) and TK Desikachar (viniyoga method). These three teachers combined went on to train the first ever group of Western students who, when they returned to their own countries, opened the first wave of what we know in the west go be known as "yoga" studios. These teachers went on to modify the practice AGAIN and created their own style and name for it, which led to the second wave of Western styles that we have today. (The combination of these two words turn it into an oxymoron. Yoga {the state known as True Reality or "union" as opposed to the illusion of "division" or "duality"}, is an internal state of awareness {also known as capital "S" "Self-enlightenment"} that can only be experienced or reached in private after many, many years of rigorous meditation practice. A "studio" (used in this context), is commonly known as an external place or location in which a group of people interested in a common activity come together to be led by a teacher in order to practice some sort of physical movement "skill" with the aim of attaining a high level of mastery that will allow them to practice that movement skill in order to make a future living. In the process of years of discipline, competition amongst other students in that "class" develops because of the financial element invested into learning that desired skill and the potential future earning capacity at stake. The merging of money, hierarchy, expectations, employment, name & status, competition, etc with what is an internal an d deeply personal mind state is truly something only westerners are extremely very good at. Along with the ability to package this product into something that is called "yoga", create a hugely financially lucrative market for it and then sell it to people by lying to them as to what they are actually buying.
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after the first yogi of them all, Lord Shiva. I am now a student of Swami Jnaneshvara Bharati of the Abhyasa Ashram,
a monk initiated by Swami Rama, who can be found online in many places, that I will list at the end of my comment, ).
I don't practice or teach yoga asanas or the physical postures. They are not yoga. They were created only less than 60 years ago by Sri Krishnamacharya by blending Western gymnastics with traditional Indian dance moves in order to satisfy the large number of Western students turning up at his shala (yoga school) because it was the 60's and the Beatles had influenced the west enough by their professions of their love of Transcendental Meditation and it caused a enormous influx of people wanting to practise meditation & spiritual practices. (Aha! Fake news and misinformation existed way back in the 60's!!)
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WTF! I have Ad-free on You Tube and here is an ad for a car. I would recind my "like" if not for Samaneri Jayasara, my fave.
Beautiful, thank you so much.
Loved this. Felt like all the right questions were asked to Samaneri Jayasara. Couldn't imagine it more perfect. So helpful
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Thanks you pinned coleman Huges masters Sameneri Jayasara teaching 🙏🙏😇
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This was a very interesting discussion (I'm Evangelical Christian btw). Every time I hear a discussion like this with a Buddhist I'm always left with two very nagging questions.
First question is, if one manages to totally master one's mind and desires, what then? How does a master then conduct oneself? EVERYTHING from the hunger one feels if one skipped breakfast, to the pity one feels for the dispossessed, to the desire one feels to provide for one's family (I have children), can be categorized as one more desire. If everything is a desire, and everything is ultimately empty, isn't that a very nihilistic, "everything is meaningless" viewpoint? We all die (and isn't fear of death just another kind of anxiety? Coleman and Samaneri already discussed anxiety...). Does it matter how we live, if only we live without desires that control us? Death comes for us all, and ultimately the enlightened ones and those that aren't enlightened end up with the same, equitable outcome: six feet under. I've never practiced meditation, but how do you prevent yourself from becoming nihilistic and uncaring if everything is a desire?
The second question is similar to the first. If one sees something "wrong", say, families going hungry in one's community, what happens next? I'll paint with a broad brushstroke, please don't get hung up on the gross generalizations... A Christian may say, "we need to partner with other churches to create a community program to ensure no family goes hungry." An atheistic humanist may say, "I'm going to create a society with robust social programs to ensure no one here goes hungry" (again, broooooad brushstrokes, there is overlap between the two positions!). What I hear Samaneri say is, "hunger is a desire... I can teach you to reach peace to accept your fate." I can't imagine that's ACTUALLY what Samaneri means, but I can't help but follow her positions to their logical conclusions. What am I missing?
Lone, our Ego is illusionary and the source of our suffering. Meditation and awareness allows for non-identifying with the Ego. One still must navigate our physical world. Still deal with moments of frustration, anger, and fear. But we do it in seconds. We become one with humankind and provide assistance as best we can. I omit the concept of a Big Sky Daddy. Change ourselves, change the world. May you be at Peace.
@@cps_Zen_Run "Big Sky Daddy" aside, your comment just reiterates the concepts I have questions around. "Our Ego is illusionary and the source of our suffering." Is starvation not a source suffering? Is the death of a child caught in the crossfire between gang bangers in Chicago not a source of suffering?
Since "the Ego" is the source of suffering then I'm going to say we don't need to worry about material privation. We don't need to call more from ourselves and our society to alleviate unnecessary pain. Negative feelings are a matter of education and not a matter of action. Discontent with the status quo simply means that we need to retreat to our yoga mats and meditation rooms.
Instead, pain is the way to let us know that something is wrong. We may not be able to interpret the pain signal well, but it points us in the direction we need to head to actually improve life (for us? for everyone?). If we, in our blessed (privileged?) life feel pain that we can't pin to a specific cause (cancer, death of a loved one), then we need to ask ourselves "what can we do to improve?". Pain at that point isn't something to be ignored, it's something to be followed so we can change our actions on a day to day level. Life, as you say, is more than "moments of frustration, anger, and fear". It's a call to action to make us more than we are... and peace with status quo doesn't seem to be on the menu. Where is the call to improvement in the Buddhist philosophy?
May you be at peace as well 🙂
re: nihilistic, "everything is meaningless" viewpoint. nothing is also nothing. to be able to abide in a non-conceptual state of being one gains insight into what is true and of immeasurable benefit to living beings, and, desires driven by the false sense of self subside or may completely fall away. In principle, one is in a better place to take action.
I share your questions about how Buddhist contemplative philosophy scales towards positive social action and large-scale development of societies. Still, the point remains to take action from a position of wisdom is preferable and ultimately necessary; unconsidered compassion and love may not be enough, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions", etc. I think Buddhism via various meditation traditions offers a very powerful and articulated method for facilitating deep wisdom that the current form of Christianity tends not to be so good at, imo, on the other hand, Christianity appears resistant to passivity and inaction which I'd say is a fair criticism of a tendency with Buddhist practices.
Personally, I imagine a syncretism is happening which will merge various religion's contemplative traditions and some elements cognitive neuroscience into a new belief system, hopefully one that will anticipate in game theoretic terms how a society can scale Enlightenment without unintentionally increasing suffering or injustice traps.
Anyway, I don't think you're missing anything. It's just not an either/or situation, it's a both/and. Peace and God bless you.
Buddhist empitness does not mean what you think it means. Desire or Hunger doesn't mean what you think it means either. The problem is that Buddhist concepts are for highly sophisticated minds.
Chop wood, carry water.
1. life continues on except without your suffering. You go to work without suffering the Mondays and without always looking forward to Friday.
2. Meditation won't feed you but you won't focus on the suffering hunger causes. Instead of suffering you will find something to eat and a Buddhist that is not herself hungry will gladly help you out. Why would a Buddhist hold on to food if they have eaten?
They wouldn't
Way too many ads. Hard to get into the talk.
A marvelous source of joy
Very good questions I've found; and very honest and informed answers as well I must say.
An excellent and helpful introduction to Buddhist meditation and wiew of the world.
Why not give it a try? 😊
3/3/24 Firstly I'm hopeful that both of you are familiar with the work of Dr, Willowby Britton. She has been a researcher on the dangerous effects of meditation, and has gone to much effort to document her results. The only responsible path forward, is to warn people before they begin a meditation practice, of these possible dangerous side effects. Some of which are; causation of severe anxiety, depression, panic attacks, suicidal ideation, etc; just to name a few. These findings are well documented in her reports. Of course meditation teachers and practitioners in general would not look too favorably on this information. As it might discourage many would be practitioners from a meditative path in general. It depends on the personal agendas of those who consider her information. Dr Britton is a clinical psychologist and researcher and began to see scores of people who were reporting disabling and even incapacitating effects from meditation. Her good conscience insisted she begin to document such findings. She believes in 'informed consent' before promoting or starting a meditative practice. Perhaps not in a formal sense, but at least in a verbal and informal one. Just some information worthy of investigation; related to the dangers of meditation..
would be nice the advertises would come at the end to not interrupt the flow of contemplation..it feesl a bit insensitiv
Coleman Hughes is Sam Harris 2.0!!
What is Boredom?
This person makes no sense at all. Perhaps that is the core of who/ what they are.
Duncan, we are not our thoughts nor emotions. We are not our body. We have the ability to rewire our brains to avoid greed, fear, anger, and ignorance. May you be healthy and safe.
@@cps_Zen_Run We are our thoughts and emotions. Dealing with our thoughts and emotions in an optimal way is the goal.
@@cps_Zen_Run Wearing an exotic outfit from a far east culture and playing semantics is not an 'answer', it's an indulgence.
@@DunkanIdaho1 Just a nasty comment. It says more about you than her.
@@raphaelsdream3472 Funny that. I thought the same of you. Your insecurity is showing. It is as bright as the sun.