A Way To Save The Beatles (If Only Paul Knew About It) - Peter Jackson On "Get Back"
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- Director Peter Jackson examines the mindset of The Beatles as they prepared for a rooftop concert profiled in the new Disney+ documentary, "The Beatles: Get Back," and sheds light on why the band suppressed the footage for decades. Jackson also mentions a chat between George Harrison and John Lennon that might have changed the direction of the band had they ever shared the details with Paul. Stick around for two more parts of this fascinating conversation with Stephen Colbert's friend and favorite director. #Colbert #TheBeatles #PeterJackson
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Things I learned from this film:
1) The Beatles did NOT hate each other by the time they made Let It Be. Quite the opposite actually.
2) Paul was the most passionate about the band.
3) Ringo was the most professional musician in the band. He doesn't talk but he's always listening.
4) Yoko didn't break the band up. The others were quite accepting of her. Paul even defended her in front of the film crew. Even with all the scream jams. :P
5) John Lennon was a far more childlike person than one would have expected. Yoko clearly helped him explore that side and you sort of get why he was so in love with her.
6) The band ALWAYS helped each other out and everyone had a say. Paul might have seemed bossy but he welcomed feedback.
7) The Beatles were human. The only difference was how hard they worked.
EDIT:
Ok maybe not the ONLY difference. Yes, they did inherently have an insane amount of talent to begin with but that's useless without putting in the work. A lot of people with insane talent, even more than the Beatles, end up nowhere because they think the talent is enough.
you beautifully summarised it ✨ the documentary made me feel closer to beatles' members and for that i'll be forever grateful.
I would put number 3 in all caps, my god he didnt talk so much but whenever they were planing a tune, making changes to a song or just talking about lyrics, he was listening, and when it was time to perform, he already had the drumming solved. Massive respect for Ringo.
I agree with all of that, other than the "only difference" being hard work part you ended with. I think you need a line item about genius creativity. They definitely worked hard, but there are plenty of other hard working bands. The playful goofing off, jamming, joke versions, and playing old 50's rock and roll doesn't look like work as much as play. Writing and learning the new material is very hard work, and watching that is such a privilege provided by the new documentary. I think the main difference they brought is brilliance. Genius hit songs are pouring from Paul, George is steadily bringing in solid new material, and even John in a relatively fallow period has iconic contributions.
@@jayborcherding153 Fair point man. Thanks for pointing it out. I will say this though: They amplified their genius with their work ethic. That being said, they were inherently on another level creatively so you're right.
@@NeonRadarMusic Also, they were incredibly lucky to have found eachother at all. That's one of the rare things about The Beatles, it's all these great forces combining and working together.
My feelings towards Paul have changed since watching the documentary. I’m so impressed with him and his drive to try to keep it going. He’s clearly the band leader at this stage and it’s heartbreaking to see his face drop and become sad when it seems that the end is coming for the band. He is a genius. More so than Lennon . I’m a massive Lennon fan but from this docu I think Paul was really the one who could jump from idea to idea, musical styles and all while dealing with the deadlines. Salute you Paul! Oh and Ringo is as cool as always.
So true.
Hawsrule Begin...Mine too, but not in a good way it seemed like he controlled too much and John was pretty easy going but George seemed like his ideas where always either not given any credence or dismissed too quickly (by Paul) which caused tension between them all. I had always thought John held the reigns but watching this changed my mind after watching this documentary ALL 4 of them seemed to have this cloud hanging over them like a married couple trying to keep it together but deep down knowing they couldn't go on much longer.
After George came back things were different (better) that meeting John, Paul and Ringo had with George must have really cleared the air, Paul seemed much more open to ideas after George came back.
I couldn't agree more. Lennon (whom I love as well) has always been seen as the 'artist' of the band, yet this documentary makes clear that Paul was THE driving force of every project that the Beatles worked on after Brain Epstein died.I personally feel that, towards the end, John was intimidated by the creativity that poured out of McCartney, because he just wasn't as 'plugged-in' as Paul was. At least John admitted in interviews that Paul was the best musician in the band (no doubt).
In the early days, John's charisma and talent caused the band to go his way creatively, and Epstein was the driving force. When Lennon's writing talent was muted by heroin and Epstein died, Paul stepped into both roles. And he did a fantastic job! But there's always some resentment when somebody steps into another person's place. There's always a feeling of "I could just as easily be the boss" or "this isn't the way we used to do things" or "how dare he think he can fill my friend's shoes?". It wasn't Paul's fault. Whoever had taken over was going to get the pushback. But he wasn't sensitive to why it was happening and he didn't do as much as he could have to ease the transition. He was dealing with his own issues, watching the people he loved collaborating with drift off in various directions. Girlfriends and wives used to come and go, but he was always the most important person in his best friend's life and he suddenly didn't have that. It's no wonder there were missteps.
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what i really admired about the documentary is that all the footage was from 1969 which is 52 years before from now but somehow it felt so present to me. like i felt that i was there in the recording sessions with the band members. it was truly an unforgettable experience. thanks everyone who involved in the making process.
im 9
It would've been even better if Peter Jackson didn't absolutely destroy the footage with excessive digital noise reduction
@@TheWeirdAlley Nothing was destroyed. I saw it in IMAX and it looked authentic and lifelike on that giant screen. Jackson SAVED the footage. The old film was a low-quality, imperfect representation of reality. Jackson used the top modern technology to restore the life to the footage that was only hinted at in its original form.
The Beatles have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of how they acted in the past. We should all be greatful that something conspired to make them exist in the first place. Peter Jackson's film is compulsoive, revelatory and fabulous.
And they were still a young 20s back then
What are they ashamed of?
you are confused about some of the words 😂
“We should all be grateful”? They’re a band. Not like they died for our sins or something
I was profoundly affected by the film. I was literally in tears during the rooftop concert. The end of the film, when the tapes were being listened to, felt like a wake the day before the funeral for the Beatles.
Same, exactly the same.
Yep - same. This docuseries was overwhelming and deeply emotional for hardcore Beatles fans.
don't let me down at the rooftop has always made me cry since I first saw it on some bootleg VHS in the late 80s or early 90s. then on the anthology.
@@calisongbird I have NEVER been a Beatles fan and it was emotional for me.
I cried really badly at the end when they’re in studio singing Let it be. I’m still very emotional about the whole thing. As much as I enjoy watching Get back, I am just equally heartbroken.
"Shoulda, coulda, woulda " is a person's worst enemy. We were gifted the greatest music in the World by these four guys. During and after The Beatles. I'm grateful for that and everyone should just be as well. I hope Ringo and Paul face the end of their lives in peace knowing that and no regrets.
Their only regret is not making even more money.
@@zelmoziggy Jamming good like with Weird and Gilly, were ya?
@@zelmoziggy money is only a superficial thing. They could have retired five times over before that point.
@@zelmoziggy who hurt you?
@@zelmoziggythey don't care. they're beyond rich
Wish there was a commentary track from Paul and Ringo as they first watched it. Would have been even more amazing!
Sounds like a fantastic Special Edition release to me! Glyn Johns might even be good to have in the room too.
I have always loved The Beatles. But I fell so in love with Paul watching this. A remarkable man.
I challenge anyone to find a better singer than Paul McCartney. Yes there are opera singers who are more precise, and soul singers who are as expressive. But Paul can no many things that no other single singer can do. A remarkable man for sure.
@@kevinmac2200 Agree, but John Lennon is even more expressive with his voice. Two of the greatest singers ever in the same band
@@kevinmac2200 maybe freddie mercury? but yeah I prefer paul too
Big thanks to Peter. That footage and its restoration is just remarkable. Props to the sound engineers of the time too. 👏👏👏
That George and John conversation story is so fascinating, and also so excruciating, in the sense that the Beatles could have carried on as an occasional band so easily. I bet Paul feels very upset about missing that talk. If only...
It's interesting, though: This is pretty much how Radiohead have managed to keep it together over the years, with the members -- and especially Yorke and Greenwood -- having the space to step outwards and still come back together if or when the moment or the music seemed right. So much to learn from the past, and they way our most creative minds met their challenges while they were living through it together.
Indeed. And it's interesting how different Thom's projects are from his output in Radiohead (specially Anima and the Suspiria soundtrack). It's like the band remains as the convergence point but that doesn't stop them from pursuing other ways of creating and expressing themselves.
I'm so stoked for Smile but I want another RH record lol. In an interview with Jonny recently it seems it's all about the five of them being available and wanting to get to the monumental task of an album. Something that they take seriously and labor over. AMSP is such a good record but it has a finality about it. I hope I'm proven wrong. The Beats and RH are my two favorite bands. Love to see your comment in here. Very apropos.
@@ricopaulson1 i listen to everything this band or band member has created. they are the Beatles in another universe. I speak of Radiohead btw. their talent is immense. Johnny classical pieces are brilliant.
@@gpeddino maybe I'm amazed and my sweet lord were written while that band was together. they should be credited to the Beatles
Radiohead are the only band that have come close to the consistent quality & variety that The Beatles
The rooftop concert being my favorite Beatles live show. No fan screaming during the set, you can actually hear the band's performance.
Paul had earlier said, " We're at our best when our back's are against the wall. " How true! They left that rooftop and eight months later, left us the gift of " Abbey Road. " Brilliant!
That was John who said that
wasn't it let it be?
John said ‘*I’m* at my best when my back’s against a wall.’ Totally different context.
@Kat Oh ok, I haven't gotten that far. John does say in part 1 though to Paul 'I'm at my best when my back's against a wall', when Paul was harassing him.
As a musician, it was just fascinating to see how all four of these guys just had music just exploding out of them.
I like the scene where Linda and Yoko are whispering and giggling with each other.
When Alan Klein's name first comes up, I said to myself, "Uh-oh!"
It looks to me that Peter Jackson was the best choice to take care of this footage, seeing how he talks about those things. He is a brilliant guy and looking at the modern landscape of directors he stands out as one of the last great filmmakers.
Maybe he's a good director but he is a terrible restorationist.
The let it be sessions have always been known for the turmoil that led to the breakup up the band, but having watched get back, by the 3rd episode you cant help but see that theyve still got it and still enjoy playing together. Its ashame there wasnt better communication as they could have gone on longer. Thankful for what they already gave us though.
What's so mesmerizing about this documentary is we know just shortly after the film wraps, the band sort of fractures but doesn't recover. The press blames Yoko and no one really goes out of their way to correct it, mostly because I think they were all tired and ready to be done. We also know that in just 11 short years after this concert, we lose John. We have the gift of knowing the future and we're watching young, these Beatles were YOUNG, all young men under 30, experience exhaustion, from losing their manager, their rudder so to speak, and just wanting to explore new projects creatively. But they didn't want to lose their friendship and they assumed that would happen if the band broke apart. Jackson displays the perfect mix of the romance of storytelling, with pulling back the curtain on their humanity and keeping the balance to present the bittersweetness of the two.
More! If the doc is in three parts, Stephen's interview with Peter should also spread out across three nights!
Indeed.
When I turned on my TV,that late afternoon.
Kyle was a free man, to the dismay of a c**n.
-
The man took his SUV and you know what he did?
He drove trough a parade and didn't give a shit.
-
Whether it was youngins or grandma, or anything between.
He was aiming for White, his facebook I have seen.
-
The memory of that sight, is ingrained in my mind.
So beg and cry as you might, you will get yours in due time.
-
The Name's Darrell Brooks Jr. and He drove over those kids.
in court and hanging his head, throwing hissy fits.
No remorse for the lives, not a word about the dead.
-
Even if Brooks gets fried, I will never forget.
The time Media lied and memoryholed...
The Waukesha massacre at sunset
This is an amazing documentary. It's funny how much songwriting talent just flows out of Paul. How John epitomizes human expression. How George is as introspective and reflective as his music implies. How Ringo is the band's puppy.
I didn’t get that from Ringo at all.
Ringo is the Beat in The Beatles. The musical foundation. Not some “puppy” 😆🤦🏽♂️
That was painfully obvious to me, watching the GET BACK. Just go do solo albums & come back a year or 18 months later to do another Beatles album. George had developed as a songwriter and really deserved to get more of his stuff out there. (His first solo album was a big hit). And they all needed time away from each other. They'd been banging away for eight years non-stop. Even the three months in India was together.
I think a brief hiatus to allow them to do their solo projects would have been good. Although I more inclined to beleive that after 7 years together, they had all gained so much experience that each had different visions of what they wanted to do, so being in a band was no longer practical for them. I'm atleast glad that they quit while they were ahead.
The reality is probably that there are many things that could have helped the Beatles stay together. Not having the stress of trying to make albums in 3 weeks would really have helped. Writing and producing 40 minutes of music in a few weeks is just insane. 6 months to a year is a lot more reasonable.
Absolutely. That being said, they wrote a brilliant album in that time. Possibly their best. AND about half of Abbey Road was written during those sessions, too.
Man, I never thought they didn't look like they were having fun on the rooftop. In fact, I always felt like they were finally having a moment of legit fun after a bunch of crap.
Im Batman
@@ahabduennschitz7670 Wut?
This was covered in the Anthology. The Beatles were a perfect potted plant that outgrew the pot. If you don't make the pot bigger or split up the plant, it dies. Sure, in retrospect, Get Back/Let it Be did show a band still creating at a furious pace, but the project lacked direction, a goal, and time to develop the material to their satisfaction. It could have easily been another double LP with all of the songs they had in work at the time. Several wound up on solo releases later. I'm not sure the band really desired the project in the end, and it was properly shelved at the time. Thank goodness it wasn't destroyed, and digital technology has properly preserved this snapshot in time. Peter Jackson was in the right place at the right time.
We all signed up but only for a month! Agreed, the rooftop this time is magical to be watched over and over.
Such a great detailed film/documentary! And now, whenever I hear any song from Let It Be, I'll know what they were wearing, where they were sitting, what they looked like, etc! Very cool.
Seeing the rooftop performance now, in its entirety, has changed everything. You can see them lock in and see that performing live again could happen. Sadly it didn't. But I think if they could have found a way to keep performing, they might have stuck together longer. Especially if they kept Billy Preston in the band. They still would have sold out arenas, but maybe the fans moved on from the screaming and crying and breaking-through-the-bathroom-window level of hysteria.
I’ve learned watching it that while Paul could be a bit overbearing, it was because he was the most disciplined. He also was clearly the musical genius of the group, and that’s saying something when you’ve got john and George in the band
I heard that for this Album and session, John didn’t bring many songs of his own creation or ideas for a song, but Paul came with many and those are the ones that they start working, now, John collaborate in every opportunity that he sees
Paul was an insanely talented song writer. I wouldn't call that being a musical genius. Songwriting genius? Sure. Musical genius? No. They were all extremely talented song writers though, but it is certainly clear how much creativity and talent oozes from Paul.
No way Paul is the only genius. John was 100 percent on this level. Talk about revisionism
When I turned on my TV,that late afternoon.
Kyle was a free man, to the dismay of a c**n.
-
The man took his SUV and you know what he did?
He drove trough a parade and didn't give a shit.
-
Whether it was youngins or grandma, or anything between.
He was aiming for White, his facebook I have seen.
-
The memory of that sight, is ingrained in my mind.
So beg and cry as you might, you will get yours in due time.
-
The Name's Darrell Brooks Jr. and He drove over those kids.
in court and hanging his head, throwing hissy fits.
No remorse for the lives, not a word about the dead.
-
Even if Brooks gets fried, I will never forget.
The time Media lied and memoryholed...
The Waukesha massacre at sunset
@@apuapustaja1958 ?
My favorite moment of the films (I think it might be the third one) is where they're all hanging out in close quarters in the studio and Ringo suddenly says, "I've farted. Just thought you should know."
Can you tell me exactly where that was? What Part was it? I've watched it twice and didn't catch it! Thank you in advance.
@@sharigreen9252 About hour into part 3, 01:03:45
@@bitroast Thank you! I'm in the process of watching Part 3. Will pick it up again. Don't think I made the first hour yet. Again, thank you very much!
I have watched this three times already, I can’t get enough. One of the saddest parts of this was Paul when he said “Then there were two “ and also when John Paul and Ringo form a circle with each other and discuss talking to George the next day after George left..
I'm a big Beatles fan, but a fair chunk of my also musician friends always liked them more than I did, but after this, they are now my second favorite band.
I was on the verge of tears throughout the entire film. Half tears of joy (seeing the very first seconds of the creation of Get Back) and tears of sadness (when Paul was holding back tears at the realization that the band might not survive).
I so connect with Paul throughout this, because I know what it's like to have your earnest excitement and eagerness to create seen as 'overbearing', and it's ended bands for me. My heart really went out to Paul.
Well that made me cry... The Beatles broke up when I was 9yrs old ... I'd just been away on a trip where kids whose families couldn't afford holidays are billeted by other families ... one of the homes had the compilation album 'The Essential Beatles'.... up unlit then I really only knew them as a Cartoon & some strange guys who got off a plane in Sydney in 1964 ... I played that album over & over .. I couldn't believe the sounds I was hearing. When I got home from my trip I heard on the news that The Beatles had broken up .. I was devastated ... So to hear they may have stayed together, even part time, is killing me. ... But then .. would 'All Things Must Pass' have had the same gravitas, would we have had 'Band On The Run' ... Imagine how 'Imagine' would have sounded with Paul's Bass ... So much to think about ...
Absolutely, spot on! Thank you to everyone involved with Get Back!!!
yes... I instinctively understood that conversation between John and George as a way for the Beatles to carry on. It was a shame they didn't explore that. At the crossroads, however, was Allen Klein. Paul didn't trust him... and once again ... he was proved right by 1973 and John acknowledging... "perhaps Paul was right about Allen Klein". By then, however, it was too late.
One of my favourite parts of that scene is how encouraging Yoko was to George to try things independently for a bit. The media really painted an incorrect image of what type of person she was
She’s complicated. On one level she’s a great person and very encouraging and painted in a bad light by people who don’t understand what really happened.
On the other hand she is a horrible person who made johns son from his first wife pay for his fathers letters to him after he died and controlled John through his heroin addiction.
Another thing that could have kept them together would have been to do some live gigs. It might have shed the cabin fever...that and telling Allen Klein to stay the f#$k away.
100%. Paul said he’s nervous. George almost wants nothing to do with it. John is the most up for it. And I agree, if they had done some smaller gigs to ‘get back’ to the joy they had started out and get the cobwebs off after 3 years they might have stuck together a few more years. A great “what if”
When I turned on my TV,that late afternoon.
Kyle was a free man, to the dismay of a c**n.
-
The man took his SUV and you know what he did?
He drove trough a parade and didn't give a shit.
-
Whether it was youngins or grandma, or anything between.
He was aiming for White, his facebook I have seen.
-
The memory of that sight, is ingrained in my mind.
So beg and cry as you might, you will get yours in due time.
-
The Name's Darrell Brooks Jr. and He drove over those kids.
in court and hanging his head, throwing hissy fits.
No remorse for the lives, not a word about the dead.
-
Even if Brooks gets fried, I will never forget.
The time Media lied and memoryholed...
The Waukesha massacre at sunset
@@apuapustaja1958 oh yeah, thats pertinent.
@@rjpg indeed.
I differ with most. I say the Beatles did survive...well into the 90s in fact. I find it difficult to differentiate between the actual Beatle songs of the 60s and their later solo songs, especially in the 70s. I always have a mix DVD of "Later Beatles" songs from their solo careers and when played back -to-back with a Beatles mix from the 60s, it's all very seamless. I find it better that way to ease any "Beatles get back together" pangs. My brain tells me they broke up, yet after hearing my mix DVDs, my heart tells me they stayed the course and kept creating incredible, intoxicating, beautiful music.
No
When I turned on my TV,that late afternoon.
Kyle was a free man, to the dismay of a c**n.
-
The man took his SUV and you know what he did?
He drove trough a parade and didn't give a shit.
-
Whether it was youngins or grandma, or anything between.
He was aiming for White, his facebook I have seen.
-
The memory of that sight, is ingrained in my mind.
So beg and cry as you might, you will get yours in due time.
-
The Name's Darrell Brooks Jr. and He drove over those kids.
in court and hanging his head, throwing hissy fits.
No remorse for the lives, not a word about the dead.
-
Even if Brooks gets fried, I will never forget.
The time Media lied and memoryholed...
The Waukesha massacre at sunset
@@apuapustaja1958
Aww, a little racist poem..
That's cute.. 😂😂
@@dfr6663 What is racist about it?
huh, no, their solo stuff is radically different.
Half of John's solo albums are unlistenable.
George had a couple of good songs on "all things must pass" and then like 20 years of nothing until "cloud nine".
Ringo is a great drummer but he has four or five fun songs as a solo artist and that's it.
Paul is the closest to beatle-quality but for every good song that feels "this could have been by the beatles", there are 5 filler songs that scream "he needed John to tell him this sucks".
and he's very irregular with his solo albums. he can release a good album and two not so good albums after it. it's not one great album after the other like the beatles.
they needed each other to make the perfect albums.
4:03 that's kinda heartbreaking
This series is absolutely brilliant
I'm still not signing up for streaming, but I'm excited for the eventual Blu-Ray. You just know that it will be full of special features!
You can sign up to view it and then cancel afterward. That’s what we did.
You must not be much a Beatles fan! My god, pay the $7.99 for a month and watch the damn thing. It's brilliant.
It was the biggest treat ever to watch this documentary
What shocked me the most was the fact John Lennon used so many songs written with Paul on his solo Albums!
Only one actually, “Gimme some Truth”
Could have,
Should have,
Would have.
“If only” are two of the saddest words in the English language.
what about "aids baby"
Of all sad words of tongue or pen the saddest are "it might have been".
People say I’m dumb because i quit my job of 2 years to smoke weed on my CZcams channel full time but I believe in myself🔥
Paul could have let them rest after the white album instead of filming them tired and ready to quit. Not mentioned.
When I turned on my TV,that late afternoon.
Kyle was a free man, to the dismay of a c**n.
-
The man took his SUV and you know what he did?
He drove trough a parade and didn't give a shit.
-
Whether it was youngins or grandma, or anything between.
He was aiming for White, his facebook I have seen.
-
The memory of that sight, is ingrained in my mind.
So beg and cry as you might, you will get yours in due time.
-
The Name's Darrell Brooks Jr. and He drove over those kids.
in court and hanging his head, throwing hissy fits.
No remorse for the lives, not a word about the dead.
-
Even if Brooks gets fried, I will never forget.
The time Media lied and memoryholed...
The Waukesha massacre at sunset
Musically they were as prodigious as they ever were. During the Get Back sessions they were only 2 months removed from finishing The White Album, and just three weeks after the rooftop gig they were back in the studio recording Abby Road. Not to mention the singles they were still cranking out.
I think their demise goes strictly to their terrible and naive business decisions after the death of Brian Epstein. They touch on it in the doc. Had they weathered the storm and stayed together, George would have elbowed his way into an equal share of material on albums. He was coming into his own and surely John and Paul could see that.
I think your synopsis is accurate, the loss of Epstein damaged their work dynamics, and it feels like they are still mourning his loss here. Couple that will public backlashes, settling down with marriages, and media critic and tabloid pressure, and the innocence was lost.
@@Chewbacca0702 I listened to 'You never give me your money' after watching the documetary. It was so poignant.
Damn. We were denied at least 10 years worth of more Beatles albums, all because Paul didn't hear that conversation
I get this comment is probably not bad intended, but I am amazed at the capacity there is in general to always find a way to blame Paul and give all the responsibility to him.
I'd phrase it like this: All because George didn't talk to all four of his mates face to face and express his feelings.
Two words: Allen Klein.
Once Klein got his hooks into John, the band was doomed. Paul McCartney was the only one of the four to see Klein for what he was, a thieving shyster. No way would the Beatles have survived his involvement, he was way too toxic
can you boomers pls stop and just enjoy 4 of the best musicians we ever saw
is that too much to ask? to give john and george their so deserved peace? it doesnt matter at this point who broke what up anyways
It's a terrific point and quite mind blowing to even consider the possibilities if they could have just sat back and agreed to have the freedom to do their own solo projects but that the actual core band of The Beatles was untouchable; I just sketched out a a diagram with The Beatles at the epi-centre with four 'arms' radiating outwards with John: Plastic Ono Band/Elephants Memory; Paul: Linda / Wings / Elvis Costello; George: Clapton / Delaney & Bonnie / Wilburys; Ringo: All Starr Band / Rory Storm / Films
I don't think the Beatles had just that one issue they were dealing with. If that was the only problem it could have been easily handled. I think there were too many other issues pulling them apart. It's a bit like a divorce. If one issue is the problem then it can be worked through to save the marriage. But most marriages fall apart for a number of reasons. Picking one straw off won't stop the camel's back from breaking.
Nothing remains The Best In The World forever. They lasted longer than any other boy band ever…. If you have an ounce of empathy the isolation of being The Beatles will exhaust and sadden you. It was time.
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If they’d done it different, MAYbe they could do a reunion 20 years later. But then The Police would just be copycats.
By this time the Beatles had their own corporation Apple, which ended up being a failing venture by 1970. So mixing being a highly ambitious band, mixing music, business and PROFIT, once can see the seeds of a divorce being sown. $$$$ can break up a beautiful marriage!
But if they had stopped, stepped back and dealt with that problem, perhaps it would have given them time and prospective to do it again and work on the next problem, then the next and then the next and the next one after that
Perhaps it wouldn't have worked, Perhaps it could have.
To put it in context during this documentary not one of them was 30 yet. George was only 24 or 25!
I think it was just too much. Too much going on. Sometimes things get to a point where you need to stop to breathe. There could have been a reunion at some point, but 10 years later John was gone...
I love the Beatles so much it made me watch a Colbert clip
agree, Colbert blows but must suffer to hear Beatle insight w/Peter Jackson.
@@rjpg exactly homie 😂😂
@@rjpg Can you just leave fucking politics out of it for once?
After LOTR it seems Jackson has lost his touch a bit as a “movie” director but I think he has really become an insanely amazing documentary director.
They Shall Not Grow Old and Get Back are absolute masterpieces that really stay with you.
Im 10
I love the “get back” doc and mr colbert.
watched the series, so mesmerizing
exactly why i signed up too!
Radiohead has adopted that band dynamic and it has worked perfectly. When you’re an artist you’re always going to want to do your own thing. Do your side stuff and then jam with your boys. I wish they had ✌🏻
It’s the Neil Young and Crazy Horse model. Neil makes solo records but when he wants a band record, he plays with Crazy Horse.
The Lost Weekend is as important to our understanding of John Lennon in the 70s as Peter Jackson's Get Back is to the end of the 60s. The movie is out today and I had the great pleasure to interview May Pang recently
I have never had a real interest in the Beatles, but PJ makes the story sound very intriguing.
Imagine if this same original filming had taken place during Sgt Pepper or the White Album how awesome that would have been to see the creativity and the struggles. The On the Roof part is the least interesting bit to me because we have seen that so much. This is sort of like a wedding video - the most interesting parts are the home movies of everyone getting ready not as much when they are standing up and taking the vows. This was excellent and would love to see all of the unused materials as well one day.
The White Album the fighting was even worse, according to EMI engineer Geoff Emerick's book.
Yeah, but the rooftop footage is significantly expanded in this version. Plus a lot more about the cops coming to try to shut it down.
Yes absolutely, I loved some of the passerby comments down on street level. All I had ever seen before are confused faces walking around I don't think I had ever seen people making pro or con comments about that. How epic that would have been to be strolling down the street that afternoon.
My boy Pete isn’t looking so good I hope he’s alright. Great film. Great work. The greatest band.
Loved the documentary. My only thing is that Billy Preston really needs to be added as the 5th Beatle(post mordum) He has had such an iconic part in so many of those songs.
Well, he is widely and often referred to as “the 5th Beatle,” along with their legendary producer George Martin. But yeah, a post-mortem tribute of some kind would be good.
@@calisongbird I agree totally. He just brought smiles and such a cool vibe to that room. Also just got to part where Heather McCarthy comes in as a kid and she just brought more sunshine.
Totally! He completely changed the dynamic between the four when he starts playing on those songs- amazing that he came with such iconic parts off the top of his head as well, great musician
*postmortem
Although, what you're after is post facto.
Preston was important to them, no doubt, but the real 5th Beatle is George Martin. In my opinion this is not even debateable.
Amazing interview thank you
We all have a tendency to want so much of a good thing that we choke on it (see Hobbit, The) but The Beatles would have lost a lot of their mythical status if they kept going through punk, disco etc. They're so tied to the 60's in our minds that anything more would have diluted their legend, and they probably broke up at the perfect time.
I think they had some more great years ahead. If you look at the Stones, some of their best stuff was released in the 70s. Can you imagine the thought of the Beatles with proper sound systems at their concerts!
The last album the Beatles made was Abbey Road and all of their early solo albums are really good. If they had stayed together for another 5 years I can only imagine they'd produce more world class albums
When I turned on my TV,that late afternoon.
Kyle was a free man, to the dismay of a c**n.
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The man took his SUV and you know what he did?
He drove trough a parade and didn't give a shit.
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Whether it was youngins or grandma, or anything between.
He was aiming for White, his facebook I have seen.
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The memory of that sight, is ingrained in my mind.
So beg and cry as you might, you will get yours in due time.
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The Name's Darrell Brooks Jr. and He drove over those kids.
in court and hanging his head, throwing hissy fits.
No remorse for the lives, not a word about the dead.
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Even if Brooks gets fried, I will never forget.
The time Media lied and memoryholed...
The Waukesha massacre at sunset
I never thought of it like that before, but you're spot on there.
Magnus Alexander...I don't think that The Beatles would have followed the musical trends you mentioned if they had stayed together, none of their solo material suggests it.
Thanks mr Jackson for bringing the FABS back 👏
Now another reason to cry 😭😭😭🌹💖😭 they may hv stayed TOGETHER!!! At 67, it's nice to think. But to hear this NOW?? 🤪😲😲😲😩😩😖😬😬🤐😟 Another thing for my dad to not like. SORRY DAD. they're STILL AROUND!!🌹💖
That conversation was on the bonus CD for Let it Be- Naked
Yes the history of this is just great........who would have thought it could have been a different scenario rather than a breakup.
The beatles doc is the only reason I subscribed to d+
This pertains to every band break up neighbor conflict, and more - it’s about what goes left I said that f’s things up. Just lack of communication.
I wish too, Paul.
I was 8 years old in 1960 and I lived through the whole Beatles era and I am now thinking of writing a book about it. There were more bands than just the Beatles back then, Jim Hendrix and Cream were huge too. We were spoiled for music but you had to be there.
Is that George's actual guitar in PJ's background???
It made me sign up with Disney plus too!
I've watched the first 2 parts and it was very frustrating, tense, exciting, boring/exciting (at the same time), bewildering and maddening, but never once felt like turning it off, just the opposite.
You could clearly see who the leader of the Beatles was and it seemed like the rest walked on eggshells around him. Michael Lindsay Hogg, seemed to be the villain of this documentary like he had ulterior motive and agenda for this whole recording for a live concert and film which was impossible to do in the time they were given. Originally "write and record 14 NEW songs and go play them LIVE in less than 3 weeks time...no pressure there, RIGHT! Knowing that from the beginning (as a viewer) it made watching it very tense, imagine how The Beatles felt.
I hated that guy and his stupid ideas "let's do it in the desert, let's do it at the ruins of whatever, we'll bring the audience in boats, you have five days to prepare for it".
@@pelgervampireduck...Yep, I was hoping one or ALL of The Beatles would have told him to "SHAG OFF"
@harry berry MLH was indeed irritating, but wasn’t he responsible for the entire filming of the rooftop concert? Without him deploying 10 or so cameras at street level, across the street on the rooftop, at the Apple reception etc etc we would never have got such incredible footage for PJ to construct this new documentary film. Well, that’s my reading of the situation, anyway. Hopefully you’ll have seen Part 3 by now and will know what I’m referring to.
@@irenahalder ...Yes I've seen all 3 parts even before I made the comment. As far as the rooftop concert goes anyone with half a brain could have set up cameras MLH wasn't needed, I'm sure he didn't physically carry them up there.
Love the rooftop concert of course but the amphitheater idea would’ve been so cool to see
I've always been of the opinion that The Beatles came to an end at the right time. They went out on top and (still) unparalleled. I would have hated to see their output become uninspired or irrelevant. To see them limp off into the sunset.
However, after hearing this, I just wonder what dynamite they could have come up with had they gone their separate ways for stretches of time - and then come back together with more individual musical experience and ideas to contribute, more excited and invigorated than ever.
Ah, well, we can't know. We can only be grateful for the genius that they *did* share with us.
Lennon had been arguing with the band six months of the past year to get them to agree to his and Ono's album that famously had a nude cover and had to be distributed in a paper bag. That album and Harrison's Wonderwall soundtrack had been out two months by then, I believe both on the Apple label. McCartney wrote a liner note for Lennon and Ono's record. Harrison released a synthesizer album four months after, on the Zapple label, an Apple subsidiary run by a friend of McCartney. Lennon and Ono released a second album on Zapple around that time I think. So it was already happening, after much argument, and all that was new in the conversation was that it could happen while keeping the band together, perhaps by agreeing to more serious solo work on a better label.
This is the only reason I subscribed to Disney plus too..... That and a few great movies wile I waited, but now I've seen Get Back.. um might keep the app for a little while longer 😁
Going based on interviews. What this film shows are two different perspectives and motives of directors. Michael Lindsey-Hogg saw or wanted drama and created a film about how the Beatles didn't get along. And maybe the Beatles watched the film and believed it at the time. Whereas, Peter Jackson saw rock stars being human creating an album under pressure...but he also saw the love and fun they had when they played together. Which was left on the cutting room floor of MLH's version. Would be interesting to see the two films back to back. Seems Peter Jackson took a lot more care (4 years) creating this film.
If only the Beatles pulled a "Wu-Tang Clan" sort of business model - let the artists be their own person, sign with who they wanted, and reconvene with each other/Apple when they had material they wanted to put together as a band. They could have carried on in a similar sense... maybe even more so since they had already created Apple basically on their own terms. Yes? No?
Yes! I think that could have worked.
You forget they broke up before they were even 30. So young. A relatively small part of their early lives defined them and a world beyond. These four working class lads from Liverpool. Just imagine, affecting so many people, history, music, culture, everything, and you’re still in your twenties when that part of your life just stops. And all anyone relates you to, and is really interested in, mostly, despite it being decades ago now, is that single period of your life. It must be very hard to find a way to deal with that as a person and as an artist.
This broke my heart…
WE NEED THE 60 HOUR CUT
I’ve read at least two dozen books on the group since I was 13. Plenty of people knew Paul wasn’t some kind of control tyrant before this footage released, so I’m surprised people are just finding out about this.
They dug their own grave a bit. The pressure of being surrounded by cameras and mics knowing a deadline had been set is too much. Its amazing what actually did come out but you've got to think if it had just been the four of them in a room they may have survived longer.
It made me sign up to Disney too.
45 min concert that's 14 min more than candlestick park in 66😭😭🌹💖🌎🌍
The Beatles split up at exactly the right time. They were at the top of their game and the only way to go from there was down.
There’s no way to know that. Especially because George was clearly sitting on a treasure trove of amazing songs, which he ended up releasing on his solo album, All Things Must Pass. And Paul and John still had a lot of musical creativity left in them. Even Ringo did.
I’ve sadly got to agree with you. Maybe The Beatles broke up because, heartbreaking as it was, it was time for them to break up. The music they gave us was as perfect as we get in this life. It would have been a shame if they had carried on and the quality of their work couldn’t quite reach the heights of Abbey Road. Better to walk away at the peak of your game and stay a legend to inspire those who come after.
Does anybody know the time stamp of this conversation from the documentary?
Not sure, because later in 1969, John Lennon would inform them that he was leaving the band. Paul was just the one to publicly announce his departure in 1970 to coincide with the release of his debut album 'McCartney'
Correct. The exact date was 20 September. As John told Jann Wenner in 1970 („Lennon remembers“ interview): „When I got back [from Toronto] there were a few meetings and Allen said, ‘Cool it,’ ’cause there was a lot to do [with The Beatles] business-wise, and it wouldn’t have been suitable at the time. Then we were discussing something in the office with Paul and Paul was saying to do something, and I kept saying, ‘No, no, no’ to everything he said. So it came to a point that I had to say something. So I said, ‘The group’s over, I’m leaving.’ Allen was there, and he was saying, ‘Don’t tell.’ He didn’t want me to tell Paul even. But I couldn’t help it, I couldn’t stop it, it came out. And Paul and Allen said they were glad that I wasn’t going to announce it, like I was going to make an event out of it. I don’t know whether Paul said, ‘Don’t tell anybody,’ but he was damn pleased that I wasn’t. He said, ‘Oh well, that means nothing really happened if you’re not going to say anything.’ So that’s what happened.“ Klein was in the process of renegotiating a new contract for the group with EMI/Capitol, and persuaded Lennon that it was in everyone’s interests to deny that the dream was over, at least for a while longer. (copied from Beatles Bible)
i once seen thw beatles i thinik it was the Michael Duglas show even though i have never see the videos i remember they were unannounced and and played during the day if anyone can confurm this great but they came on very slowly played out of time and slowly got better as they played until near the ed when they were finally with it it souded great nobody seems to recall this show but i remember it around 68-69
A Jon Batiste and Stay Human instrumental cover album of Beatles songs? Yes, please.
Why does that last comment make me weep? Because it points to an alternate reality that we'll never know.
Paul about the Beatles not breaking up / BUT LET'S CUT TO COMMERCIAL
Alternating between band and solo projects was how Queen persisted in the 80s - seems like a good way to do things.
It was all or nothing with these guys. George is glowering from day 1, you can see the fedupedness as he's watching John and Paul. I've wondered the same thing, regarding why they didn't just get solo stuff out of the way. Klein and the business end fucked them up
I'd also add that events like Paul buying more Northern Songs stock without telling John, and Dick James selling their catalog out from under them were probably close to the last nails in the coffin. John enjoying playing with Yoko and the Plastic Ono Band was likely the final one, when he did Live Peace in Toronto the week before.
maybe Im amazed
I think however...the guys, except for Ringo, would be much more wary and reluctant to be going back to do a Beatles album once they got the taste of having the freedom in doing whatever they wanted on their solo projects.
So, even if Paul heard this it won't guarantee the band not breaking up, but..at least there would've been a conversation amingst them instead of just Paul making that sudden announcement of leaving the band.
Brutal
Keith Richards also once suggested that the beatles continue with solo careers as sidelines. That's what Genesis eventually did, of course.
heartbreaking revelation! @_@
The part with Peter Sellers looked really awkward for him.
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